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Hey guys, I bought myself a Nexus S one month ago and I've flashed about 15 different ICS ROMs. Is it just me or are there almost no stable ICS ROMs? All of them had random reboot issues apart from AOKP and CM9. I had no reboots on AOKP but the clock got stuck every 2nd day, so my phone wouldn't wake me in the morning which is even worse. CM9 I liked a lot, but I couldn't phone in the hands free mode (don't know the propper name of it in english) because the mic wasn't loud enough. Currently I'm on ras cream sandwich and it reboots while i'm listening to music which is really frustrating. Oh and before i forget, I always flashed matr1x kernel and used smartass governor, no OC.
Is there any stable ICS ROM apart from CM9 and AOKP? Or can i fix the other bugs?
Thanks in advance!
Your problem is the kernel, not the rom. My phone also reboots while listening to music in the undervolted matrix kernel. Stay with rascream and flash the _thalamus kernel and see how stable it is. That kernel is really stockish and stable. If you don't want to flash you could try to raise your voltages to stock values in nstools. Some phones like undervolting, some not. ;-)
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hm I didn't know matrix kernel was undervolted, I thought that's only the case with trinity TEUV kernel by default well I'll try another kernel for the time being and see how that goes.
Yeah. Some of our phones can't handle the voltages mathkids kernel supplies outta the box unfortunately. Either adjust them back to the stock ones or search for another kernel. I prefer either thalamus or Simple Kernel. I just recently flashed the latest version of the former and its great. You can try Air kernel if you want a few more governors and whatnot.
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Like.. that's what STOCK is all about.
The people that made the phone are the most interested in making a stable ROM, no compromises.
Most stable and fast rom
Try APEX ROM 1.1.2 (latest release), that's what i'm using until aokp milestone 6 comes out. there is no lag, no reboots (just if u OC too much),...
Slim rom with no tweaks is smooth. Try it and u will not regret it.
Good luck
Vs Nexus S 4G
MIUI roms are very stable these days.
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Well it differs from phone to phone. My phone is good with Matrix kernel. Might be one of the best custom kernels to run for my phone if not the best. Matrix isn't a compromise for my phone.
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For several days I'm with Slim ICS and Matr1x and I have no problems with random restarts. No OC and no tweaks!
Try CyberGR ROM
I have installed CyberGR ROM and I have not suffered any reboot. I followed one by one all the steps of the development part and I'm quite happy with it.
Good luck.
Well, if you really want stable, get Stock 4.0.4. I'm on 1100+ hours on uptime without a single reboot... The only thing I've done to the stock 4.0.4 is getting root.
I would also like to know. from my own experience, stock 4.0.4 is best, but can CM9 very be made that stable? I'm running it now with ink kernel and no tweaks and it seems slightly laggy :/ should I flash brainmasters tweak pack?
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Bugless Beast hasn't given me any issues. I've rebooted to flash other kernels but the only two kernels that have given consistent performance are Simple(stock with bln) and thalamus. Once I get my new battery, I may see how long I can go without rebooting. But if you want rock solid, go with stock ROM. Hell, my cousin has an EVO 4G and has almost 1200 hours up time. Lol.
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AOSP+ definitely belongs to this category. Stock with a few useful modifications.
You should try AOKP again
I know you've already used AOKP but you should try/flash it again. I'm sure that the clocking was freezing because of some flashing issue.
Go to this link and download the milestone-5 version (m5) of AOKP. Also, you should use this rom with matr1x v19.5 cfs.
Milestone means that it's stable, so you shouldn't have problems with it. I use this rom and matr1x 19.5 on my daily device and haven't had any problems nor reboots. Great performance and great battery life too. Besides that, the rom is highly customizable.
Apart from stock, Have you tried BuglessBeast? Very stable. No need to flash any custom kernels.
if ur using ra scream use one of the trinity kernels. its super stable, super smooth, and long battery life
im using this black ice rom, in love with it .. shud try
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I know you've already used AOKP but you should try/flash it again. I'm sure that the clocking was freezing because of some flashing issue.
Go to this link and download the milestone-5 version (m5) of AOKP. Also, you should use this rom with matr1x v19.5 cfs.
Milestone means that it's stable, so you shouldn't have problems with it. I use this rom and matr1x 19.5 on my daily device and haven't had any problems nor reboots. Great performance and great battery life too. Besides that, the rom is highly customizable.
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I searched the internet and apparently I'm not the only one with that problem. I tried AOKP twice (i think build 32 or something and m5), always with matr1x kernel. Could this also be a kernel Issue?
I don't know that much about Android, but what I found out in the past days is that my Nexus S can't handle UV. I also get very high Android OS battery usage sometimes but I don't know why. High meaning Android OS once used more battery than display even though i had 2h screen on time. I suspect it's got something to do with titanium backup not restoring apps correctly, but that's just a stab in the dark.
Currently I'm on Apex v1.1.2 with stock kernel. No random reboots so far. I didn't restore apps via titanium backup (which was a pain in the ass). So far Android OS seems to use way less battery than before. But yesterday I had something like SOD when received a call while using TuneIn, so I had to pull the battery and call back. Not what I call stable.
I know that's a lot of text and probably also a bit OT sometimes but I hope some of you will read it , I'm not really a flashoholic and I'm getting sick and tired of switching roms, but I need my phone to be reliable. I'm really tempted to just switch back to stock ROM with stock kernel at the moment...
the things I'd really like to have is bln, notification toggles and stability.
I haven't made the jump to ICS yet.What's currently the most stable mod of ICS? I also want to be able to get good battery life.
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I haven't made the jump to ICS yet.What's currently the most stable mod of ICS? I also want to be able to get good battery life.
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Most stable ICS is probably CM10 hackfest JB or tonyp's new paranoid android cm10/jb/ics hybrid deal...you're not going to get the most reliable battery life from either. If you want rock solid...stick to GB for now.
Yup the hackfest has been the smoothest for me from all the ICS ROMs. The only bad thing is battery life but just install battery saver app to turn off WiFi when phone is asleep
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you can try
[ROM][ICS 4.0.4]Genesis - Stable Build1 - CM9/AOKP Hybrid - The Return....
I flashed that a week ago and I have no regrets
I have had no lag, no freezes, and my battery life has been superb after flashing this ROM.
Give it a try
My battery does not even last for 8 hours with ICS roms even if I turn on juicedefender.
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My battery does not even last for 8 hours with ICS roms even if I turn on juicedefender.
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Under what sort of conditions though? I'm running cm10 hackfest in a mission critical situation far as work goes with heavy phone calling/google searching with some texting/facebook/browsing/music playing thrown in here and there and getting ~10-12 hours out of my out the door full charge most days...I'm not running any secondary mojo apps...just run through my day with wifi off...could be your battery getting a bit of age on it perhaps.
Well, It depends on your phone. My phone completely craps on out Hellfire ICS and Eaglesblood (SOD). It was good with Owain's Genesis Rom, But the best roms for my phone were TonyP's Paranoid Android Builds. On the CM9 PA I never had a crash or SOD and it was relatively fast. CM10 PA Is just super fast and stable.. My current favourite rom would be PA CM10 by TonyP. Give them all a shot and see what works best for you.
shahharsh2010 said:
you can try
[ROM][ICS 4.0.4]Genesis - Stable Build1 - CM9/AOKP Hybrid - The Return....
I flashed that a week ago and I have no regrets
I have had no lag, no freezes, and my battery life has been superb after flashing this ROM.
Give it a try
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What kernel are you using?
I wouldn't say superb for my case with harsh's UV/oc. Then again I am a heavy user the past three days I have had it installed.
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I am using Harsh NO-OC 0208 kernel
I am not really that heavy user. my battery lasts about 2-3 days with wifi and auto sync on full time
I have my Mobile Network set to use only 2G and I check E-mails / google voice messages maybe 3-4 times a hour,
and Play music for about 2 hours a day
Hey guys!
I've been using RasbeanJelly with Trinity Kernel (220~1320MHz) for the past few weeks, but I'm curious as if any of you has already tried both of these ROM's and If you think CM10 it's better (even though it's still in the Nightlies phase).
How the battery life on both of them?
I'm quite pleased with the smoothness in RasbeanJelly but lately I've got some stupid issues that make me receive the same text for 4 times, and it had never happened before so I'm thinking it's a problem of the ROM. Anyone know anything about this?
Thanks in advance!
Mathorlaz
I'm currently running latest stock Android 4.1.2 on my Nexus S. It appears that official Google support has come to an end and therefore there is no point keeping the original software. It also seems to me that current version of Android on Nexus isn't exactly a good example of well optimized software which is the reason why I'm looking for an alternative.
My requirements are speed, stability and possibly better battery life. Extra functionality is not important, I'm happy with 4.1.2 as it is. However I don't want to downgrade to ICS not to mention Gingerbread.
So could you recommend me a good alternative rom for Nexus S, based on your own experience? I'm currently thinking of CyanogenMod because there is plenty of people behind it and its really famous so I guess it should be stable and reliable but I haven't decided yet. What do you think?
I use AOKP with the marmite kernel. Works great.
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Also 4.2 for me with marmite kernel for sure
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I use SlimBean 3.1 with stock kernel...Works great....I waiting the 4.2 crespo rom from slimbean....!!!
CM10 with either stock or Marmite kernel.
Perfection.
For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^
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For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^
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I meant default CM kernel.
Speed, stability and features are brilliant for a device that is now 2-years-old.
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I meant default CM kernel.
Speed, stability and features are brilliant for a device that is now 2-years-old.
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Same here currently on cm 10 stable with default kernel for weeks now it's been really fast and stable. Was surprised. I had tried cm10 when it came out for our device and it was pretty bad stability and battery wise so I went to aosp roms.... Gave stable a shot and wow it has come a looooooong way in such a short time
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For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^
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Another vote for CM10. I'm currently using the new rasbean, but if 4.1.2 is good with you, I'm not sure anything can beat the stability of the stable version of CM10.
Having tried tons of amazing ROMs on ICS, I feel there were more stable and fluid options than with 4.1... That's not to say 4.1 didn't have great ROMs, I'm just saying that it was harder to find a stable, speedy, efficient 4.1 ROM... If you want to stay with 4.1, then I can only vouch for BAKEDbean 6... I haven't tried as many 4.1's as I did with 4.0... From memory, Slim Bean was pretty good... I just didn't like some of the included options...
Now here's what I can say about 4.2 ROMs... Since you don't mind missing some included features like theme chooser, statusbar tweaks, etc... Then I would highly suggest Rasbean with Matr1x CFS 24.0 (non-cm version)... I always told myself that I would never use a ROM without theme chooser... But after trying this ROM, I've discovered that speed and fluidity is way more important to me than a few extra features... This ROM is amazing... I'm getting much better battery life with this combo than with any 4.1 combo I tried... At the very least, give it a try
*edit* in case you see reviews or read somewhere that it's not a "stable" release... I would ignore that crap because I haven't had a single issue with this ROM other than the phone app fc'ing after some calls which is 4G related... and since you're on crespo, you won't have that problem... Everything works on this ROM!!!
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rom cm 10 stable version with kernel matr1x v24
Cm10 with marmite kernel beast
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Hey, thanks to all of you guys. I switched to CyanogenMod 10 since many of you have recommended it and it also seemed to me pretty solid and reliable. Nexus S now does seem a little bit faster and more fluid however it's hard to tell after less than a day of using it. I won't go back anyway, those few extra features are really nice. My problem with stock JB was that it suffered from some kind of memory leak... quite often I ended up with literally 0 MB of free ram. The phone also got quite often to a state of total unresponsiveness for few moments without any obvious reason. None of these problem has occured in CM so far however for example during heavy usage, when I go back to home screen, the launcher is really slow (1-2fps) for few seconds. But I guess I can't expect much from 2 year old hardware.
You also mentioned several alternative kernels... what can I expect from that in daily usage?
tobice said:
Hey, thanks to all of you guys. I switched to CyanogenMod 10 since many of you have recommended it and it also seemed to me pretty solid and reliable. Nexus S now does seem a little bit faster and more fluid however it's hard to tell after less than a day of using it. I won't go back anyway, those few extra features are really nice. My problem with stock JB was that it suffered from some kind of memory leak... quite often I ended up with literally 0 MB of free ram. The phone also got quite often to a state of total unresponsiveness for few moments without any obvious reason. None of these problem has occured in CM so far however for example during heavy usage, when I go back to home screen, the launcher is really slow (1-2fps) for few seconds. But I guess I can't expect much from 2 year old hardware.
You also mentioned several alternative kernels... what can I expect from that in daily usage?
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I have not an ounce of lag on rasbean 4.2.1... I didn't think it would get better than 4.1 but it clearly does... I don't think everyone that recommended cm10 has even tried a 4.2 ROM yet... BTW, cm10.1 will be released soon and I'm sure everyone with update then...
For kernel, use airkernel or matr1x... Think of the kernel as the brain of the phone... It tells the phone what to so with the hardware... So you can tweak things foe better speed or better battery or even attempt to get a good balance between the two...
My last time mentioning it... I would strongly recommend you to backup your current setup and flash the 4.2 ROM with matr1x 24.0... That is all
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the1dynasty said:
I have not an ounce of lag on rasbean 4.2.1... I didn't think it would get better than 4.1 but it clearly does... I don't think everyone that recommended cm10 has even tried a 4.2 ROM yet... BTW, cm10.1 will be released soon and I'm sure everyone with update then...
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Really it does work that well? Hmm then it is really sad that Google has cut off Nexus S from official updates. I will definitely try 4.2 but I will probably wait for CM 10.1 if you say it will be released soon.
the1dynasty said:
For kernel, use airkernel or matr1x... Think of the kernel as the brain of the phone... It tells the phone what to so with the hardware... So you can tweak things foe better speed or better battery or even attempt to get a good balance between the two...
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Well I know what the kernel is (I have been using Linux on my desktop for several years ) I was just curious how one can benefit from using an alternative kernel for Android. You say I can tweak things for better speed or battery life... does it mean that I can for example sacrifice 30% of battery life and exchange it for 30% of performance in gaming? What are the limits of this tweaking?
Opinions please.
Si im S-off rotted all the hoda stuff currently on Tricksters newest 9.1 jb rom.
But battery life is aweful.
Ive been seeing Cm10 everywhere.
How is it?
Pros please
Any Cons aka known issues?
Ive had verryyyyy little problems with this rom ( when correctly flashed ).
It's fast and in combination with Nova Launcher it's almost flawless.
I use snapchat and it can't handle recording in standard definition.
Battery life isn't too good either for me. I can't imagine going anywhere without my external charger.
The phone only lasts from 8am till 6pm for me, which sucks.
The camera sometimes has a hard time focusing correctly ( or sometimes it wouldn't focus at all ).
All in all, I'm still very pleased with this rom.
Tim2246 said:
Opinions please.
Si im S-off rotted all the hoda stuff currently on Tricksters newest 9.1 jb rom.
But battery life is aweful.
Ive been seeing Cm10 everywhere.
How is it?
Pros please
Any Cons aka known issues?
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CM 10.1 is mostly stable in the recently nightlies I have flashed. Currently I am running 10.1 4/8 nightly with stock kernal. Battery life seems excellent, although I am not a heavy data user per say. What do your battery stats look like? I've been up for 28 hours now and still at 40% battery life, screen being 27% of the drain.
If you have twrp just make a backup of your current and try out cm10.1
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CM 10.1 is mostly stable in the recently nightlies I have flashed. Currently I am running 10.1 4/8 nightly with stock kernal. Battery life seems excellent, although I am not a heavy data user per say. What do your battery stats look like? I've been up for 28 hours now and still at 40% battery life, screen being 27% of the drain.
If you have twrp just make a backup of your current and try out cm10.1
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What kernel is the best for this ROM??
Bubba Kernel should work fine with cm 10.1
but the stock kernel is running fine too, except the screen tearing.
latest cm10.1 worked fine on my phone, Ive only got one issue, my phone freezed after 10min of phoning and I have to hard reboot my phone.
but everything else works fine.
read yourself through the cm10.1 thread, this should help you to get an overview about the stability of the recent nightlies.
Latest cm10.1 (4/14 4/16) are very laggy. Too much problems with graphic engine.
Ganzuas said:
Latest cm10.1 (4/14 4/16) are very laggy. Too much problems with graphic engine.
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are these builds really lagging or do you mean the screen tearing