NVIDIA and Qualcomm seem to get all the love when it comes to processors for Android devices. While these are powerful processors, we can’t forget about our good old friends from Texas Instruments (TI), whose processors are very capable of running all your content. To prove this, Texas Instruments has just announced they are the first to partner with Netflix to run the Netflix HD app coming to OMAP 4 Android devices.
Netflix HD will be able to stream your favorite movies and TV shows at 1080p at about 30 frames per second. The OMAP 4 Netflix certification will support Android 2.3 Gingerbread. But according to TI, support for other Android versions is coming this year (probably Android 2.3+).
You can read the rest of the article here.........http://www.techshout.com/software/2...ves-certification-for-netflix-hd-on-android/#
Some weeks ago i was thinking in a Motorola Atrix to replace my old HTC Hero.
It's a good device but after some questions...
Juami answer:
juami said:
If you want to play H.264 high profile movie, DO NOT BUY Tegra2 based devices.
common 1080p(BDRips) are MKV(Container)+H.264 [email protected]~5.x+DTS/AC3 audio.
Tegra2 have hw limitations to play H.264 High profile.
My recommendations are
1. SGS2 : 1080p/1080i(it can de-interlace with HW)
2. Sensation(or Dualcore Snapdragon equipped devices) : 1080p capable but some shutter occur when you playing high bitrate movies.
3. Galaxy Tab(7inch) : can play 1080p
MKV container and DTS issues can be solved with Diceplayer.
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My question now is:
How do OMAP 4430 'handles' MKV 1080p High Profile/high bitrate?
I've read that 'theoretically' OMAP should be better in 1080p decode that Samsung Exynos.. Is this truth?
Another question...:
Someone knows the difference between OMAP 4430 and Galaxy Nexus OMAP 4460 ?
Cpu i think it's the same.. probably its the mhz on PowerVR SGX540 right?
yes.. Droid Razr will be my next phone.
Thanks in advance.
MK
Mk_pt said:
My question now is:
How do OMAP 4430 'handles' MKV 1080p High Profile/high bitrate?
I've read that 'theoretically' OMAP should be better in 1080p decode that Samsung Exynos.. Is this truth?
Another question...:
Someone knows the difference between OMAP 4430 and Galaxy Nexus OMAP 4460 ?
Cpu i think it's the same.. probably its the mhz on PowerVR SGX540 right?
yes.. Droid Razr will be my next phone.
Thanks in advance.
MK
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Diceplayer does not support OMAP4 yet.
Samsung's video decoder implementation is much faster and powerful than TI's implementation. Samsung want to use Exynos to their TV and Settops. So Samsung AP's video decoder accept all of H.264 profile & level.
Exynos and Hummingbird support Zero copying rendering. it is much faster rendering than OMAP4's V4L2 overlay rendering.
Thanks for your help Juami..
That means that diceplayer dont run on android's with TI OMAP4?
Galaxy Nexus have a OMAP 4460.. i guess there will be support for OMAP in [a near] future right?
About OMAP4's V4L2 overlay rendering... is better then the rendering/decode engine on Dual Core snapdragons [HTC Sensation/ Sensation XE]?
Thanks
After a month of use I finally took my Galaxy Tab 8.9 back to the shop today to get a refund. Turns out that people weren't exaggerating that slowdown you get on Tegra 2 tabs...
Anyway! I'm in the market for a new Tab now. I'll probably hang on to see if anything is announced at Google I/O (like the rumoured quad core $250 tab) but if not, what's my best bet? The 7.0 Plus on Honeycomb or the Tab 2 &" on ICS?
My biggest concern is how well the 1GHz TI OMAP + PowerVR GPU chipsets in the Tab 2 hold up against the Exynos + Mali400 in the 7.0 Plus. As long as the Tab 2 can deal with 720p .mp4 video (which the 8.9 certainly couldn't!) and play decent games like Sonic 4, GTA III and Anomaly HD, I'll be happy.
I have the SGT 2 10.1 which also has the same chip as the SGT 2 7, and I can say the 720p screen and ICS is too much for it. All the games play quite bad, even custom roms don't fix much of the lag. I am thinking of selling it and getting the cheapest Acer/Asus etc. quad-core tab.
dragosh01x said:
I have the SGT 2 10.1 which also has the same chip as the SGT 2 7, and I can say the 720p screen and ICS is too much for it. All the games play quite bad, even custom roms don't fix much of the lag. I am thinking of selling it and getting the cheapest Acer/Asus etc. quad-core tab.
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I'm hoping performance won't be as bad on the 7inch Tab due to the much smaller screen resolution. One thing I am considering is where I can reliably purchase a 7.0 Plus from, which at the moment seems like no-where. I have purchased it from online sellers in the past and had many issues, such as bad firmware or missing IRDA blasters.
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I'm hoping performance won't be as bad on the 7inch Tab due to the much smaller screen resolution. One thing I am considering is where I can reliably purchase a 7.0 Plus from, which at the moment seems like no-where. I have purchased it from online sellers in the past and had many issues, such as bad firmware or missing IRDA blasters.
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Personally (And please take this with a grain of salt as I purchased the Tab2 7.0) I would go with the Tab2 7.0. First off the CPU is easily overclocked past the Plus' CPU, so the only real advantage the plus has is out the window. The 7.0 doesn't have a rear flash, but to tell you the truth, if you are taking pictures with your tablet you are doing it wrong.
The 7.0 has plenty of speed especially after ROMing and OCing. Even without that, the tablet still flies compared to the OG Transformer I used to own. I don't know if the 10" is that much slower, but it sounds like an over exaggeration to me. Touchwiz is pretty decent on the tablet and leaves plenty of RAM (Usually around 500 MB after initial boot) to allow the device room to expand.
I was debating the two before buying and I just believe that the Tab2 7.0 is a much easier buy, especially for the price.
Oh and don't forget the 7.0 has ICS while the Plus is still stuck on HC, that's actually really big right there.
For the videos, I found on my Tab 2, some players are better at playing certain videos than others. For instance I have some 720p MKV anime files that play well with software decoding on one player, and run 720p mp4's like garbage. I then switch to the other player and the 720p mp4 runs smooth like butter and the mkv can't render.
So yes, the TAB can handle the 720 files, you just may need to find a video player (or players -- I use 3 different ones) that works for you. (1080 content though is pushing it).
So yes, the TAB can handle the 720 files, you just may need to find a video player (or players -- I use 3 different ones) that works for you. (1080 content though is pushing it).
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Just asking if you tried 1080p mkv and what was the result. Cnet reviews for Tab 2 10 showing slow frame rates while they said they couldnt get it to work on 1080p.
Im just wondering how come a Galaxy S2 phone can play native 1080pmkv just fine, with a few 0.4 (or is it 0.2) ghz dual core. I know that processors are made by different companies, so is the Texas Instrument processor just not powerful enough?
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Just asking if you tried 1080p mkv and what was the result. Cnet reviews for Tab 2 10 showing slow frame rates while they said they couldnt get it to work on 1080p.
Im just wondering how come a Galaxy S2 phone can play native 1080pmkv just fine, with a few 0.4 (or is it 0.2) ghz dual core. I know that processors are made by different companies, so is the Texas Instrument processor just not powerful enough?
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I just tried a 1080p mkv with diceplayer on HW rendering and it ran fine. Then again I am running a custom rom.
Also a 1.2ghz exynos > 1.0ghz OMAP4.
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Metallice said:
I just tried a 1080p mkv with diceplayer on HW rendering and it ran fine. Then again I am running a custom rom.
Also a 1.2ghz exynos > 1.0ghz OMAP4.
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Just to clarify you did a test on a Tab 7.0/7.7 / 2-7.0 or a nexus?
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Just to clarify you did a test on a Tab 7.0/7.7 / 2-7.0 or a nexus?
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Tab 2 GT-P3113
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hi my phone runs android 4.1.1 with a 1ghz dualcore armv7-neon processor and 512 ram.
i tried running an 720p mkv on it via mx player but it was a little choppy and there was some sound delay
i was wondering if there was a way around this or another app that may run better.
I was also wondereing if swap would help
Hello everybody
With this $199 discounted price Nvidia Shield is really apealing to me, but my gamer PC is a Lenovo Y510p Laptop with GT 750M SLI. As far as I understand it only works with laptops with GTX GPUs, but I wonder is there is any way to work with my GT 750M GPU?
If its posible then I'm buying the Shield for sure.
Thanks a lot!
I think from today, GameStream should work on laptops too.
http://shield.nvidia.com/faq/
But on non GTX gpus? =/
GT 750M
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But on non GTX gpus? =/
GT 750M
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GPU: GeForce GTX 650 or higher desktop GPU, or NVIDIA Kepler™-based GeForce GTX 600M or higher notebook GPU
Don't worry about GTX, just make sure your card is equal to or higher than the 650 GTX for desktop and at least a 600m or higher on laptop.
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GPU: GeForce GTX 650 or higher desktop GPU, or NVIDIA Kepler™-based GeForce GTX 600M or higher notebook GPU
Don't worry about GTX, just make sure your card is equal to or higher than the 650 GTX for desktop and at least a 600m or higher on laptop.
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Great, that explanation helps a lot! I can buy the SHIELD with no worries for my Lenovo Y510p with GT 750M SLI now Thanks! :good:
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Great, that explanation helps a lot! I can buy the SHIELD with no worries for my Lenovo Y510p with GT 750M SLI now Thanks! :good:
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God speed
L1qu1d said:
GPU: GeForce GTX 650 or higher desktop GPU, or NVIDIA Kepler™-based GeForce GTX 600M or higher notebook GPU
Don't worry about GTX, just make sure your card is equal to or higher than the 650 GTX for desktop and at least a 600m or higher on laptop.
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I don't think its going to work actually. The support page on NVidia says you need a GTX 600m or better, The lenovo only has GT 750m.
I also have a lenovo laptop (Y500) with an SLI GT 750m, and my NVidia GeForce Experience says I cant stream to shield due to my graphics card.
You can probably still use Splashtop with decent results, being the shield is a Tegra 4 device. But I dont think the official streaming will work for you. :c
Screenshot: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2e9yt3U8BsSbVVDQ1c0VWRHbkE
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I don't think its going to work actually. The support page on NVidia says you need a GTX 600m or better, The lenovo only has GT 750m.
I also have a lenovo laptop (Y500) with an SLI GT 750m, and my NVidia GeForce Experience says I cant stream to shield due to my graphics card.
You can probably still use Splashtop with decent results, being the shield is a Tegra 4 device. But I dont think the official streaming will work for you. :c
Screenshot: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2e9yt3U8BsSbVVDQ1c0VWRHbkE
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The update hasn't release yet. Right now its not notebook compatible, I think early April is when we get the update.
Also 750m ~= 650m/660m its a rebrand. It states 600m or higher which the 700 series is
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The update hasn't release yet. Right now its not notebook compatible, I think early April is when we get the update.
Also 750m ~= 650m/660m its a rebrand. It states 600m or higher which the 700 series is
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I'll stay tuned. That'd be pretty nice.
I have the Y510P with SLI, it's not working yet. You don't need to have the nVidia Shield to find out, nVidia Experience will say the GPU requirement isn't met. Just have to wait for the next driver maybe.
I would still buy the device, for $180 at newegg using V.me coupon code, it's still a great device.
I have a Lenovo Ideapad Y510p with dual GT 750m and I just got the latest Geforce Experience update. It says that my computer doesn't meet the minimum requirement for Game Streaming or Shadowplay. It says that it requires a GTX 660M, 670MX, 675MX, 680M or 700M or higher.
My only guess is that since it is a GT 750m that it doesn't meet these specs. The technology should be in the GPU to support it, but maybe there were issues implementing on the driver end. I'm trying to update to the latest beta driver (337.50) to see if that allows it, but there seems to be a problem downloading the new driver. And since I'm at work, I don't have the time to try and fix/get around that issue atm.
The GT series does not have the Encoder Chip that is needed for streaming. Only the GTX series cards have it. So your pretty much out of luck.
I was so on the edge about buying one right now but my GT 750m didn't make the cut :/
From SyKeko 18 at https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/724545/non-gtx-750m-workaroud-for-gamestream-/?offset=7
The hardware encoder chip for h.264 is also included in the NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M models along with others. This is stated even on your specifications page of the graphics card, along with notebookcheck.net's review of the card. I do not find it too impossible to have Game Stream up and running for the GT series Kepler cards which are more than capable. http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gt-750m/specifications
Unless this is false advertisement, it should be 100% possible. Now I understand that different hardware has different specs even if they are in the same family, but as far as I have seen, read, and been told by NVIDIA themselves, the only "reason" as to why there is not Game Stream for the Kepler GT and GT-M chips is because they lack the hardware decoder. Please shed more light on the situation if there is more to be told. Thank you.
Kepler Architecture
Yes most (but not all) of the GT 600, 700, etc. cards have the encoder chip built in and ready for use, but NVIDIA has chosen to NOT enable them! I did (and am still doing) research into this matter, to see if there is actually something prohibiting this on the hardware level. So far, it is not a hardware limitation at all.
GTX cards are usually more powerful than their GT counterparts in many areas, but the h.264 encoder chip is not one of them. I saw a registry hack to prove this somewhere here on XDA that worked with older versions of GFE (1.6 and lower) and SHIELD Android OS 4.2 with many GT cards--desktop and mobile. If native Game Stream wasn't possible, then the registry hack wouldn't do a thing.
I personally have two GT 750M cards in my laptop so performance isn't an excuse either (you can manage with just one of those cards for a while).
P.S.: That was the comment I posted on the GeForce forums a few days ago lol
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The GT series does not have the Encoder Chip that is needed for streaming. Only the GTX series cards have it. So your pretty much out of luck.
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Wrong Wrong Wrong. Streaming worked at one time with the workaround (they have sense disabled). So anything saying the card doesn't support it is completely incorrect.
So there is nothing to do for us Lenovo Y510p users? I find this dumb because this machine can run most modern games on 1080p, 60fps on mid to ultra settings...