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So, for those of you who are not subscribed to Samsung's YouTube channel or simply have yet to see it, there has been a new video posted entitled "Introducing Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1" which shows off some pretty cool features this behemoth of a tablet offers. Being a Note device, it comes with the S-Note application that all ICS Galaxy Note 5.3 devices pack as well, but with a slight difference. As far as I can tell, it looks to have different folder management (which I can only assume means that this is a tablet version of S-Note) and I was wondering whether it would be possible to get this version of S-Note onto our current Note 5.3 devices? Also, one feature highlighted frequently throughout the video is the ability to split the screen in half and run two apps simultaneously. Since 5.3 inches can, when the phone is placed into landscape mode, could offer two 2.6 inch displays (small, but still I think usable for two apps), I was wondering whether this feature is already possible or set to be planned to port to our Note 5.3 devices? As much as I love the looks of the Galaxy Note 10.1, I really don't find neither the money, need nor want (beyond a new piece of technology to play with) for a tablet - since I simply use a keyboard so much.
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Oops! Forgot to allow multiple options for the poll I decided to add, as I was curious to see what people thought of all the new Note devices. So, if a moderator is reading this, could they please alter that for me? Until then, feel free to just leave a post within this thread as an answer to the poll or any of my questions. Many thanks to those who do!
Having purchased the original Galaxy Note 5.3" on contract around 2-3 months ago, it is still going to be around 20 months (as per my 24-month contract) before I can upgrade my device. So, unless I want to spend more money, I won't be able to get a Note 2 and it is because of this that the speculation of merely a quad-core version of the current Note doesn't entice me enough to splash my cash. Besides, are quad-core phones really needed as people tend to use their tablets/computers for any incredibly powerful tasks? If I do get the money, I'd love to be able to afford a Note 10.1 as I have been flirting with the idea of a tablet now for a while. A large screen like that would allow me to truly feel like writing on paper with the S-Pen. Although, I am not sure whether or not I really need a tablet, as I constantly find myself yearning for a physical keyboard.
Hello everyone.
I'm a economic sciences student and i'm looking for a new Tablet which can make my student life easier and of course entertain me a bit.
I want a Tablet to read PDF files. Also i want to use it for Multimedia like watching Movies, playing Games and i want to use it for car Navigation.
One other question is if a 7 inch Screen is enough for all those tasks , but of course not all at the same time :laugh:
Taking notes is not that important because I'm still faster taking notes "analog" then "digital".
I almost decided to buy the Nexus 7 but then i've seen a review of the Galaxy Note 10.1 and now i can't decide anymore.
All my friends are saying : buy the N7, its the best Tablet atm. Like i said i don't know if i like 7 inches and if its ideal for reading PDF's.
I also miss the 3G connection because because I use car Navigation a lot and real time traffic reports are important for me .
The Phone and Message features that are included in the Note are awesome, but i heared many times now that the Display is not so good @the Note 10.1.
The N7 has already a big development community and that is what I'm also feared by the Note 10.1 because i like to flash my devices and reach with them the best performance.
It would be very nice if sombody could give me a advice because i'm getting tired of searching pro and contras
I'll toss in my 2 cents...
We have both tablets at our house - love them both. My son uses the Nexus in school with a bluetooth keyboard case and can do papers with it and print wireless to our printer at the house. The screen on the Nexus 7 is same resolution as the Note 10.1 (1280X800) but in a smaller package so everything seems just a little bit sharper (note 10.1 screen is also great, I have no complaints with it). if most of what your doing is consumption type activities (reading, watching movies, playing games etc..) then the Nexus accomplishes that very well. The only down side (for me) on the Nexus 7 is no extra micro SD slot for storage, my son uses a dongle to plug in a USB drive and that works well. Overall the Nexus is a very fluid great looking/working devise and you would not go wrong in getting one.
Now the Note 10.1 - Love this one too. For me I value a larger screen, I just cant get used to going back to a smaller 7" screen after using a 10" one (personal preference). Overall performance is very good on the Note and performs all the functions the Nexus 7 does just as well, I can only guess it will get better with JB upgrade coming soon. But where the Note 10.1 really shines for me is the use of the S pen - I use the S pen all day taking notes and using the multi tasking that this tablet has incorporated into it. For you however this big plus may not be the advantage it is for me, based on what you said you wanted to use the tablet for. It almost seems like you should be looking at other options...just straight newer Tegra 3 type tablets and not just limiting yourself to just these two options. As an example my older Transformer TF101 will do everything you just outlined you wanted a tablet to do and its over a year old now (granted not as smooth as the newer, faster tablets now).
So not sure if you looked at the newer Asus, sony, or other tablets but I'd at least keep my options open. All of the newer tablets work very well in doing what you want, they will all have their pros/cons and design flaws that could have been implemented better. My suggestion is you read up more on some real user reviews on the whole range of newer tablets (if you haven't already) and get more of an idea of the options you have, and lets face it...more options is always a great thing!
Also there is the price point - you never mentioned if that was a factor - the Nexus 7 does seem the best you can get in that price range ($200 - 250). $500 for the lower 16GB Note 10.1 your paying in part for options you will not use (S-pen/active digitizer).
Hope this helps...
Hi, i bought yesterday the N7 and sold it today. I didn't like it at all.
I will look now for the 10.1. I also looked for the Infinity Pad but i read that it has a lot of problems and also i like the 3G feature on the 10.1N and the micro sd card slot
Push , it would be very nice if some other users could share their experience.
It would be also nice to know what the difference between the N8000 and the N8013 Model is
I own both GN 10.1 and Nexus 7. If I had to choose one it would definitely be the GN 10.1 for its versatility and capability for all your requirements. The one area where Nexus 7 has an edge is one-hand portability for in car use and for GPS. If you can afford it get both.
I don't mind to use the GN 10.1 for car navigation^^
braxas said:
I don't mind to use the GN 10.1 for car navigation^^
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That's another reason to get the Note then! I would definitely recommend this tablet as it is very stable and pretty much does everything you would need it to do based on your requirements listed.
The best thing would be for you to purchase one from a store that has a good returns policy and try it out for yourself to make sure it meets most if not all of your requirements, if you are happy, keep it and if not return it.
I chose to keep mine and do not have any regrets.
I have both, and I think 10.1 screen is much more comfortable than 7... Also, Note 10.1 features are amazing...
I just bought my Note 10.1 today and will use it in my abnormal psych class tomorrow. I was impressed the Kno app had my text books for download. To bad I had already bought them for all my classes. This would have saved me money. I also downloaded the Blackboard app and it looks great on this beast. I hope the keyboard comes to the states soon that will be a great added feature for class.
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I just got the 8013 Note 10.1 yesterday and it is really brilliant. I downloaded all the pdfs for my Real Analysis math class and the S-pen works flawlessly. What's great is it also works seamlessly with EzPdf which I love to use. Since the 8013 is wifi only I'm not sure how it will help with gps if you make a wrong turn though.. It came with ICS 4.0.4 but I hear JB is out soon. I haven't rooted Samsung products before so I'm going to wait till some flawless root method comes out. Battery life is much longer than I had anticipated. Haven't charged it yet since it has been out of the box yesterday and there is still 65% left- I wonder how long a full charge will last ^^, good luck!
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I just got the 8013 Note 10.1 yesterday and it is really brilliant. I downloaded all the pdfs for my Real Analysis math class and the S-pen works flawlessly. What's great is it also works seamlessly with EzPdf which I love to use. Since the 8013 is wifi only I'm not sure how it will help with gps if you make a wrong turn though.. It came with ICS 4.0.4 but I hear JB is out soon. I haven't rooted Samsung products before so I'm going to wait till some flawless root method comes out. Battery life is much longer than I had anticipated. Haven't charged it yet since it has been out of the box yesterday and there is still 65% left- I wonder how long a full charge will last ^^, good luck!
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Get a navigation app (Sygic is what I use) that allows for offline navigation. Basically you pre download entire maps like a normally functioning gps unit has. With Google maps you can only download a set area around your destination if I remember correctly.
Once you have an offline navigation app feel free to get lost.
or Navigon Navigation. Thanks to you all who answered to this thread. You are making it much easier for me
Sorry to hijack your thread but i am in the exact same predicament i was about to pull the trigger on the Nexus 7 but the Note 10.1 was released and i'm debating whether to take the plunge. Can anyone comment on battery life, output to tv on the note and also do any of you find the tablet useful when having a phone such as a Galaxy S3
Yet again sorry to hijack
For my first initial charge yesterday, I got just over 8 hours with 80% screen time and 12% battery life left. Thats without the battery being settled and me playing on it all afternoon and evening. A couple more cycles and I expect it to get better. I have the Galaxy Note phone and paired the two but havn't tried anything between them yet. Not sure you can like the Blackberry's phones and Playbook. Going to have to look into it.
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From what I can gather media can be shared between devices through Samsungs Allshare app which connects through wifi. I am at work and cant set it up right now, but from what I have seen its like DLNA except exclusive to Samsung devices that contain the app.
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Just FYI, after three hours of note taking in two classes, there isnt even a hint of a scratch from using the stylus. Takes a little getting used to but it works great. Between S Note and Polaris Office I prefer using Polaris for my class notes. The handwritting to text works better and also has prediction. No more trying to decipher my chicken scratch before a test. I can also save in word format or PDF when done and then just upload it to dropbox to sync to my other devices.
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I currently have a Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile US, and I'm considering a P6200 to complement it (and use it as a secondary phone). The more obvious solution would probably be the Nexus 7, but I'm getting a lot for the extra $100 or so for a P6200 (keyboard dock option, expandable storage, rear camera with flash, phone capabilities, etc) and I can deal without Jelly Bean. I considered the 7.7, but its at least $100 more expensive and while it is the all-around better tablet, the P6200 will barely fit in my pocket as it is (and I don't want to have to have a bag for the 7.7). And yes, I know I'll only get 2G on T-Mobile until the spectrum roll-out finishes in 2013 - and that's fine by me.
Anyway, I currently have my Galaxy Nexus in tablet mode (ParanoidAndroid), and read that due to the lower resolution of the tablet, a lot of apps still display in phone mode - is this something that can be fixed (either through a mod or ROM) without breaking some important feature (like phone calls, camera, keyboard dock, etc)? I can live with the lower resolution (looked at a Tab 2 in store and thought it was fine), but not having phone apps on a tablet when I currently have the opposite.
Other than that, is there anything else I should know about the tablet - maybe a different tablet I should consider in the 7" size that takes phone calls? The Tab 2 seems to be a downgrade in just about every way and is about the same price so I haven't really considered it.
Go for nexus 7
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I currently have a Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile US, and I'm considering a P6200 to complement it (and use it as a secondary phone). The more obvious solution would probably be the Nexus 7, but I'm getting a lot for the extra $100 or so for a P6200 (keyboard dock option, expandable storage, rear camera with flash, phone capabilities, etc) and I can deal without Jelly Bean. I considered the 7.7, but its at least $100 more expensive and while it is the all-around better tablet, the P6200 will barely fit in my pocket as it is (and I don't want to have to have a bag for the 7.7). And yes, I know I'll only get 2G on T-Mobile until the spectrum roll-out finishes in 2013 - and that's fine by me.
Anyway, I currently have my Galaxy Nexus in tablet mode (ParanoidAndroid), and read that due to the lower resolution of the tablet, a lot of apps still display in phone mode - is this something that can be fixed (either through a mod or ROM) without breaking some important feature (like phone calls, camera, keyboard dock, etc)? I can live with the lower resolution (looked at a Tab 2 in store and thought it was fine), but not having phone apps on a tablet when I currently have the opposite.
Other than that, is there anything else I should know about the tablet - maybe a different tablet I should consider in the 7" size that takes phone calls? The Tab 2 seems to be a downgrade in just about every way and is about the same price so I haven't really considered it.
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If you have the means go for nexus 7. If you say that you are getting a lot then think about it as an strategic investment, P6200 is almost (I may be wrong) no longer supported by samsung in terms of official updates and nexus 7 will have updates for long time (in comparison with P6200), also if you get bored with nexus 7, you can sell it easily.
The choice is still yours.....
If u have WiFi available then any tablet would allow u to make calls with groove IP. I have the p6210 WiFi only and use it all the time to make calls and text using groove IP. All u need is a Google voice account and you're good.
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If you have the means go for nexus 7. If you say that you are getting a lot then think about it as an strategic investment, P6200 is almost (I may be wrong) no longer supported by samsung in terms of official updates and nexus 7 will have updates for long time (in comparison with P6200), also if you get bored with nexus 7, you can sell it easily.
The choice is still yours.....
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I don't doubt that the P6200 probably won't be supported much longer (if at all), but an official ICS is good enough for me - but only if I can get tablet apps like mentioned. And I've had two tablets in the past that were Wifi-only (Streak 7 and Nook Color) and loved them both, but found little use for them considering how often I wasn't near a WiFi connection (and didn't want to waste battery turning my phone into a hotspot instead of just using it instead). I can basically guarantee I'll have buyers remorse with the Nexus 7 for a variety of reasons excluding it being Wifi-only, as great of a tablet it is.
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If u have WiFi available then any tablet would allow u to make calls with groove IP. I have the p6210 WiFi only and use it all the time to make calls and text using groove IP. All u need is a Google voice account and you're good.
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But the issue is that I'm basically never at a WiFi connection longer than a few minutes outside of my house, and I use my phone much more outside of the house. Plus, I want to keep the same phone number without porting it over to Google Voice.
Yes, IM not sure how 6200 will work on TMobile, since they have their own tab plus, the T869.
If you can confirm someone has gotten voice and data to work on a 6200 on tmobile, I would say absolutly go for it. i would strongly recommend it. i had a tmobile streak 7 as well. The tab plus 6200 is such a fantastic all in one device.
Oh and you migh want to double check the frequenices of tab plus, and male sure you can get tmobile 3G or HSPA, edge speeds would not be good with this device.
May we ask where you are finding a 6200 for ~$350??
Cheers.
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Yes, IM not sure how 6200 will work on TMobile, since they have their own tab plus, the T869.
If you can confirm someone has gotten voice and data to work on a 6200 on tmobile, I would say absolutly go for it. i would strongly recommend it. i had a tmobile streak 7 as well. The tab plus 6200 is such a fantastic all in one device.
Oh and you migh want to double check the frequenices of tab plus, and male sure you can get tmobile 3G or HSPA, edge speeds would not be good with this device.
May we ask where you are finding a 6200 for ~$350??
Cheers.
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Since it's not a T-Mobile device, AFAIK T-Mobile has no way of knowing whether its a tablet or phone and therefore it should work with voice/text/data. And I know it'll work on EDGE, but that's fine honestly - most of the content I'll be viewing will be preloaded on a microSD card, I'm mostly using it so I can more comfortably view it than on my phone and without worrying about having two devices to carry. Again, I just have a bad habit of regretting WiFi tablets.
And I saw one Amazon seller with a few for that price, and I've seen a few on eBay (albeit used) for around that much lately.
I have been a fan of the note series for some time now, ever since I got the note 2 phone. Then the note 10;1, and the note 8.0. Finally getting the cash lined up for a note 10.1 2014 and the 12.2 gets announced. So, now I am waiting for a couple days for the note pro to be available in the store to purchase.
My questions is about the choice between the Surface Pro 2 and the Note 12.2
I know that a great deal of things relies on individual needs and preferences, but I want to see where everyone sits.
If you have the chance, would you buy a Note 12.2 or a Surface Pro 2. Assuming same cost.
For me, I wouldn't mind going with a surface pro 2, but I would be tempted to stretch my funds and go with a 256gb model just to get the 8gb ram, then would nee a keyboard for it, pushing my budget pretty high. The note 12.2 is still a high cost device, but cheaper than the Surface Pro 2.
My viewpoint is looking like this:
Reasons for Surface Pro 2
Better CPU
Actual computer with full fledged programs
I can install and play my steam games (really mostly concerned with RTS games since I have my high end gaming laptop with me for higher end games.
Reasons for Note Pro 12.2
Higher Res and better display
Easier use of stylus for notes, drawing, and random functions,
Android and better "mobile" OS.
My big uses for either device would be for Stylus use, consuming content like netflix, and general connectivity for everything.
Thoughts?
Surface Pro 2
I too strongly considered the Surface Pro, and the SP2, for my mobile computing needs. And as you said, it really is all about how you're going to use it. My issue is that it's really almost too much computer for a 10" tablet form factor, and usability suffers for this. In other words, I found it too bulky, heavy, and the screen was simply too small to be able to actually use that power to be productive.
When I'd sit down to type either at a desk or on the couch, it was rather difficult to do so for any length of time, while remaining comfortable. I'd just end up using it as a tablet only. In which case, it was just a little too heavy and bulky for extended use. And I wasn't even remotely using the power of the i-core CPU like this. Which seemed like a waste of such an expensive device.
So I thought I'd try games. I quickly found that it was either wasn't powerful enough for the games I wanted to play and/or the screen was too small.
Basically, I just couldn't find a good use case scenario where it made sense to spend that kind of money on the SP1 or SP2. For me, a larger Ultrabook or a more traditional tablet made more sense. Combining the two just didn't work.
Galaxy Note Pro 12.2
I of course haven't used the Note Pro tablet, but from what I've seen it looks like it might actually work for my needs. I know it's expensive "for an android tablet." But for a 12.2" portable computing device, it's almost a bargain. Well, maybe not a "bargain," and there isn't exactly any real competition for it; at least until others jump on board.
First, it's still relatively light weight for it's size. Find me another 12" device running around 1.6 lb, let alone at this price point. Add that to expected tablet-like battery life, portability, nice screen, new launcher, top-end tablet specs, and I think it looks very promising. Well, at least on paper. I'll have to judge that for myself when I get it. If the software and hardware fail, I probably will have to revisit the ultrabook idea. I just didn't want to spend that kind of money right now.
And the most important part is what I'm going to use it for. No, I'm not going to write a book on it. Not expecting to play BF4 or SC2. Don't need it to fit in a pocket. I've got a 5.7" phone, high-end multi-monitor workstation, and 15" notebook for those tasks. I just want something relatively portable to use when traveling, in a vehicle, in a plane, use at work, or even on the couch. If I'm leaving the house with it, just like a 10" tablet, it's going in a bag on it's own, or with my notebook and it's larger bag.
Then it needs to play videos, music, surf the web, and even handle the occasional high-end android game. I'll probably give some light on-the-go productivity a try on it. But like I said, a notebook with a real keyboard is always going to make far more sense.
Mine gets here Friday. Still hoping it works out! :good:
First of all it depends on what do you do and what you need your tablet for . As i know its a personal reference to choose which fit your needs so am just going to share mine so it may help you figure out which suits you or which is a better deal.
I am a Junior architect and for powerful tasks i prefer using a desktop or a powerful laptop as thats where you can do real job on a real wide space but when it comes to a tablet category you choose something that can just give you the ability to edit those projects you did on your desktop or laptop and since tablets to us is a real multi-consumption device for work or multimedia and games etc and it would fit a lot of job holders like me as an architect or a student , artist, teacher etc so i would love to go with the Note PRO over the SP2 simply bc : bigger and better display , wide stylus integration for many apps , you can edit and restyle the android as you wish with so many apps and a full nice keyboard. also the way you feel about the device itself matters a lot and i believe going with the samsung would be a more better experience as being able to turn your tablet into a style that makes you feel good about using it . i didn't really like to go with some tech specs as it easily would be found online etc but here there is a really good article that may help you out from the very technical perspective on gizmag.com
Considering for me it was a choice between the note 12.2 and the SP2, and the note doesnt come out until tomorrow, my wife has already gone to best buy to get me a Surface Pro 2, at least to try out.
Considering that I can use bluestacks to play all the android games and apps I could on the note 12.2 (with some limitations), there is no applicational advantage to the note 12.2
The advantage to the 12.2 is the lower cost, better screen, and better integration of the s pen.
I feel like a traitor, though, going with the Surface. I love android and the note series is the king in my book, and the 12.2 is like the damn emperor of the note series, but I would be stupid and rather irrational not to at least try out the surface pro 2 if it can do everything to note can and more with only an extra 100 dollar price tag.
We shall see.
It is true that it depends on what you plan to use the particular device.
From various reviews, SP2 has a battery life of 6 hours while the GNP 12.2 has a battery life of 10 hours. I think I can do more with the Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 and more.
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I was deciding between these two as need a device for editing joomla sites on the fly. As I wouldn't sell my desktop the note seemed the better choice overall. Even though my mega does me I will attempt to use the note more more like a laptop type device as opposed to just a tablet. Plus if it gets rooted I'll start making roms for this beauty
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I was deciding between these two as need a device for editing joomla sites on the fly. As I wouldn't sell my desktop the note seemed the better choice overall. Even though my mega does me I will attempt to use the note more more like a laptop type device as opposed to just a tablet. Plus if it gets rooted I'll start making roms for this beauty
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To be honest i couldn't decided between the two, at the moment i have got the surface pro 2 as my personal computer and i also got the galaxy note 10.1 2014 LTE edition, but i am now waiting for the note pro 12.2 LTE because i liked the bigger screen, i know it will cost nearly a thousand but to me its what i want as i want a mobile LTE tablet for when i travel around the country :good:
I just returned my SP2 last night and got the pro 12.2 at best buy. No regrets! I'm scratching my head for the last 15 days. A lot of problems on surface pro 2
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I was deciding between these two as need a device for editing joomla sites on the fly. As I wouldn't sell my desktop the note seemed the better choice overall. Even though my mega does me I will attempt to use the note more more like a laptop type device as opposed to just a tablet. Plus if it gets rooted I'll start making roms for this beauty
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Uhm so we have root. Rom me bro!!
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Uhm so we have root. Rom me bro!!
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LOL As soon as cwm is active i will start on this still waiting for sammobile to up the first release softwares
here is a video comparison between sp2 and the note pro 12.2 by Lisa mobiletechreviews
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdP80fLkJrY
This isn't a fair match up at all...
Android all the way, yeah.
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I currently have both the SP2 and 12.2. You need a keyboard and mouse to really do anything productive on either device.
For any consumption, Youtube, movies, web, its the 12.2 FTW!
The only thing I haven't found that I can do on the 12.2 is Publisher and Powerpoint creation/presentation. I know there are android options there, but they are not up to full functionality when compared to MS office. The Hancom office that comes with the 12.2 is really good when it comes to excel and word though. Very impressed.
I ordered a bluetooth keyboard for the 12.2. I will be able to slip both the tablet and keyboard in the same bag and they won't be any thicker than the SP2.
The one advantage the SP2 has over the 12.2 is multi-monitor support. I am running three monitors and the SP2 at my office. Talk about productivity. There is no lag. Android can't do that yet. I am an android fanboy, but MS still has this productivity nailed.
My 2 cents. As you said, use case dictates your answer. I can't say I would be completely happy with only one of these devices. There is not yet "one device to rule them all."
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I have a samsung galaxy tab A 10.1 with S-Pen, and I find it pretty alright. However, as an artist, the size and processor are quite the deal-breakers, size because 10.1 is too small (a complain I'm hell of a lot sure is uncommon to hear, haha), and processor because artist apps are processor-heavy, the less processing power and ram you have, the less you can do, and the laggier the brushes will be. In that regard, the A 10.1 passes pretty alright, but it's still very noticeable that it's quite a weak beast (heck, the A 10.1 can't run minecraft unless you reduce the settings a lot, why?)
Anyways, the point is, someone in my city is selling a factory refurbished Note Pro 12.2, and I was wondering if I should buy it or just stay with the Tab A 10.1, is the Note Pro 12.2 processor powerful enough to run multiple layers in, let's say, Cloverpaint without the brush lagging like crazy? How about the paralax, is it abnormally horrid like the surface pro 2? or is it pretty good like the tab A with SPen line? How long will the battery last while drawing? (The tab A lasts for about 3 to 4 hours for intensive painting sessions). Can I add a custom rom without screwing up the pen capabilities, and if it can be done, can I still work with multiwindows (multitasking)? Will my Bamboo Smart pen will work with the Note 12.2?
I'm worried because, although it will be just 200 bucks, it's still 200 bucks that will go down the toilet if this tablet doesn't meet my artistic expectations. I got my eyes on this because of the 32gb of storage and the octacore processor, as well as those delicious 12 inches of screen and stereo speakers (I listen to music while I draw), and also to send this side buttons to hell (seriously samsung why put the buttons on the side, they get on the way all the time!)
If someone here is also an artist and still uses this tablet, I'd absolutely love to hear your feedback about this device. I can safely say, from my side, that the Samsung Galaxy Tab A 10.1 is a gorgeous looking tablet with a beautiful screen, amazing battery life and some of the best pen technology I've used; but the issues that it has leave it only as a quick-doodling device, or as a artists entry-level tool, any professional should try to seek for something better (like the S3), because the Tab A 10.1 has a weak processor, a very small screen and only 16 gigs of storage that will really stop you from working comfortably. Not a bad device for the price, but as I said, not the very best for demanding sessions of complex artworks.
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I just realized that I posted this on the wrong section, sorry about that!
First of all the 10.1 Tab A sucks, it has **** resolution and aspect ratio. If I were you I'd buy the note 12.2. I don't use Clover Paint because the ****ing UI sucks. I personally use ArtFlow and ArtRage and ArtRage only lags on some tools due to the simulations it does (I draw with 3-5 layers at 2400x2400, 1600x2048, 2560x1280). The Bamboo pen would work but the parallax may be worse depending on the model you bought since you would need the Galaxy Note version to make it work well. With regards to battery, I think mine lasts pretty long. I generally draw for at least 30 minutes a day and like 2-3 hours on weekends and I charge only once a week (I only draw and upload the images). Custom roms would only work on certain models based on what I've read. The multiwindow would use Google's native implementation usually. It's okay but I never use it. Parallax is okay just stay away from the edges of the screen and it's fine. With regards to professional use, I doubt you could honestly use only this to finish something for professional work.
For reference, I've drawn these images using just my phone:
http://imgur.com/a/0jGkF
Not an artist, so can't speak to the purely artistic end of things. I can, however, talk some about the comparison between my Note 12.1 and my wife's Note 10.1 (a step up, I believe, from the Tab you have). I am sorry I bought her the Note 10.1. My 12.2 Note Pro is my favorite piece of hardware (esp. w/ a logitech keyboard folder for it). Her Note 10.1 takes forever to charge and is a big pain to use while plugged in (because the plug is at the base of the tablet instead of on the side). It overall underwhelms while my Note 12.2 still seems elegant.
Again, not speaking to the art side. I have installed various art programs on my tablet, and played about. I think someone who knew what they were doing would find it quite productive.
Blessings.
I agree with the upper posts, now that I own a Note Pro 12.2 I came back to drawing without the need of large space or setup nor too much customizing brushes/UI as it is supposed to do in Photoshop on my desktop (even though I suggest you to get a good home setup with at least a Wacom Intuos Pro maybe M size to finish professional work, if you don't actually have one). I have tried a 10.1 and it's really a bit too small compared. I started tweaking with custom ROM with Note Pro 12.2 some months ago, they works great, actually I am on the wonderful Valera1978's Lineage OS 14.1 Nougat 7.2.1 for P905 Note Pro and except you'll miss the touchwiz s-pen official functions (things triggered when you slide out the pen, snote etc.) the drawing experience is great on Sketchbook, ArtRage, Painter and so on... In my limited experience custom roms can be much more snappier and efficient and can give you a debloated near stock experience which is strong thumbs up!
Mind a very important thing! You have to know which model you are purchasing, so let the seller inform you about that. Here in EU where I bought it's easy to find P905 which should be the one with a different chipset, improved for all I know. There are some p905 variant as p905v from Verizon or p907a that could be to avoid if you plan to use Custom ROM: some of them can't be rooted or there is no relevant ROM development. Be sure to dig in the forum with the search to get know which model could suit you best, many topics around.
Speaking of the pen, I can understand that the little s-pen stylus can tire your hand a lot if you work more than half an hour. There are topics where it has been sorted out which type of Wacom Bamboo Feel was properly designed to work with Note Pro 12.2 with minimal offset, the last and improved version is Wacom Bamboo Smart CS-310, though very rare to find. I own it and I can state drawing with that is great! You can find many topics covering the pen to choose and there is at least one major topic where you can learn how to hack your s-pen into a normal sized pen body to have a more comfortable experience.
Sorry for the bad english, cheers!
I am also not an artist, but I do want to say that I purchased a Note pro 12.2 on Ebay for $350 2 months ago, and I absolutely LOVE it! I bought a Logitech keyboard and Samsung S-Mouse for it as well, and I have been using it every single day.
The one drawback is that Samsung stopped issuing updates for the Note Pro after Lollipop 5.1.1. But I haven't found this to be a major issue. It has performed very well in my experience.
I would absolutely recommend making the Note Pro 12.2 your next tablet purchase. You can't buy one in stores, but you can get one on Ebay or Amazon For $300-$350. It is still one of the best tablets out there, in my opinion.
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Mind a very important thing! You have to know which model you are purchasing, so let the seller inform you about that. Here in EU where I bought it's easy to find P905 which should be the one with a different chipset, improved for all I know. There are some p905 variant as p905v from Verizon or p907a that could be to avoid if you plan to use Custom ROM: some of them can't be rooted or there is no relevant ROM development. Be sure to dig in the forum with the search to get know which model could suit you best, many topics around.
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I came back to do some reading in this forum and tried quite hard to get back the thread which taught me about main differences among the most common version of Note Pro 12.2. It has been quite annoying to find it back and I immediately tought of OP because it could be really useful to him, though I didn't quite catch for certain if the custom rom development scene is more healthy for sm-p900 or sm-p905, but I think the first could be. Anyway, I own a p905 and I can reassure you the custom rom scene is enough rich to give some valid alternatives to Stock ROM. This is the thread (alternatively you can search with exynos+snapdragon in search string, in the general Note Pro 12.2 forum): https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/help/exynos-snapdragon-one-performer-t3564929
Cheers!