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Hi all,
I think my SGN 10.1 is a fine tablet, but I have an issue with the pen: it isn’t recognized when it makes very light contact with the screen. In particular, light fast clicks don’t register consistently. The nib is a little loose and clicks a little bit. When I press down on the screen just until the tip makes contact with the back-end, no response. I have to press just a little more for the touch to register.
Do you experience the same thing, do you think it’s normal behavior, or should I return it?
Did you try reseating the nib?
toenail_flicker said:
Did you try reseating the nib?
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Yes, and I tried a different nib as well. So I guess you think I have a real issue? In your opinion, should the tablet react to the lightest touch or not?
I think the actual convenience of this pen is more sensitive than finger on SGN 10.1,even the original SGN.
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Yes, and I tried a different nib as well. So I guess you think I have a real issue? In your opinion, should the tablet react to the lightest touch or not?
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After reading your post, I can confirm that my one reacts in the same way after testing.
For me this is not an issue as I have no real need to touch and move the screen so lightly. Everything I have practically used it for has worked without any hiccups and I have been able to achieve the desired results such as flawless note taking, browsing with the pen, doodling now and again.
Which task will you perform that requires such sensitivity?
My only complaint is that when I write using the S-pen, I occasionally press the side button which I wish I could disable.
HasC said:
After reading your post, I can confirm that my one reacts in the same way after testing.
For me this is not an issue as I have no real need to touch and move the screen so lightly. Everything I have practically used it for has worked without any hiccups and I have been able to achieve the desired results such as flawless note taking, browsing with the pen, doodling now and again.
Which task will you perform that requires such sensitivity?
My only complaint is that when I write using the S-pen, I occasionally press the side button which I wish I could disable.
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Thanks a lot for the info! The "issue" nags me in normal use, like clicking buttons and hyperlinks. I am a light-handed user, I like to click lightly and quickly. I also like the idea of not putting too much stress on the screen, fearing premature damage/scratching. But if everybody is on the same boat, I guess I will have to adjust, for everything else works fine, in particular the handwriting recognition which I find quite impressive IMO.
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I think the actual convenience of this pen is more sensitive than finger on SGN 10.1,even the original SGN.
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But how sensitive is your pen? Can you succesfully click on buttons and menus fast and with a very light touch consistently, or does it skip clicks like every five tries?
donglepierre said:
Thanks a lot for the info! The "issue" nags me in normal use, like clicking buttons and hyperlinks. I am a light-handed user, I like to click lightly and quickly. I also like the idea of not putting too much stress on the screen, fearing premature damage/scratching. But if everybody is on the same boat, I guess I will have to adjust, for everything else works fine, in particular the handwriting recognition which I find quite impressive IMO.
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I wonder if there is a way to adjust screen sensitivity like in CM....
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I wonder if there is a way to adjust screen sensitivity like in CM....
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I think in my case, the problem is more “responsiveness” than “sensitivity”. The touch screen is responsive to the finger, not so much with the pen. And the sensitivity to pen pressure is very good. It’s just that the pressure threshold for the pen to be recognized is bit too high for my taste. I’d like the feedback of other users before considering replacing my unit.
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But how sensitive is your pen? Can you succesfully click on buttons and menus fast and with a very light touch consistently, or does it skip clicks like every five tries?
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Mine skips sometimes and is inconsistent as well. My Note phone behaves the same way.
donglepierre said:
Thanks a lot for the info! The "issue" nags me in normal use, like clicking buttons and hyperlinks. I am a light-handed user, I like to click lightly and quickly. I also like the idea of not putting too much stress on the screen, fearing premature damage/scratching. But if everybody is on the same boat, I guess I will have to adjust, for everything else works fine, in particular the handwriting recognition which I find quite impressive IMO.
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I don't think there is any need to worry as Samsung would have carried out stress tests to an acceptable level to prevent scratches and breakage, it sounds like even when you adjust, you will probably use less pressure than me anyway, I am quite heavy handed.
I have been using the phone version of the Note for a while and have never had issues with scratches or breakage. I intend to use the Note as I would use pen on paper and if it cannot handle that then it is not worth the money that Samsung are charging for it and I will be the first to take it back if there were problems under the sales of good act we have here in the uk I.e. being fit for purpose, durable quality etc.
You may want to get a screen protector if you are still concerned.
If you draw a lot the spen imprints a lot of sgnote s/p. I have a really heavy hand and draw with immense pressure on both notes and they have yet to show any wear...
we don't see things as they are; we see things as we are.
donglepierre said:
Hi all,
I think my SGN 10.1 is a fine tablet, but I have an issue with the pen: it isn’t recognized when it makes very light contact with the screen. In particular, light fast clicks don’t register consistently. The nib is a little loose and clicks a little bit. When I press down on the screen just until the tip makes contact with the back-end, no response. I have to press just a little more for the touch to register.
Do you experience the same thing, do you think it’s normal behavior, or should I return it?
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Yes, imho your pen /tab is malfunctioning. I've received my 2nd tab, which unlike the 1st one creaked on both sides *and* exhibited the same light touch pen behaviour problem. It was very frustrating to use. Other than some stutter the 1st tab works just fine. So, I decided to send the 2nd tab back due to 2 issues I mentioned earlier. Interestingly enough and going by the serial # the 2nd tab was from the earlier build.
I say get it exchanged if you can. Hth.
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I say get it exchanged if you can. Hth.
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You just made things more difficult for me. Hmmm whom should I believe?... I don’t know lol
Life is short. If you're not happy, return it.
toenail_flicker said:
Life is short. If you're not happy, return it.
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I’m happy. But I would be happier if I knew for sure that I could do better by replacing my Note. All things considered, I think I’ll keep it. I don’t think I’ll get an S-Pen without a little leeway in the nib (I had an Intuos 3, and I have vague memories of this).
Bamboo pen/tip design looks nothing like the spen
we don't see things as they are; we see things as we are.
For those interested, a related thread about the Wacom Intuos 4: http://forum.wacom.eu/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=993 (see the post by ivanzorkic)
That’s exactly what I needed to have confirmation on. So I’ll keep my Note as is, quality is good enough. Thanks everyone!
I'm having the same problem with my second Note 10.1. My first Note 10.1 (that was stolen) was bought in September. This one was bought a few days ago. It's different from my first one. The screen sticker has more logos such as DivX and ChatOn and is in colour as opposed to white only. The S Pen fits tightly in the slot and is hard to remove compared to the old one which was perfect and easier to remove. Light touches with the pen don't register making skips in the lines where I reduce pressure.
Could this be a manufacturing issue affecting the newer models? Should I exchange it or is there calibration I can do?
My original stylus died out, samsung sent me new tips and I tried those. That did not work, so I just went ahead and bought a new stylus all together and that IS NOT WORKING either, I even tried replacing the tips on the new one, to no avail. I can use my finger just fine and the note knows when I dock/undock the pen, it just is not reading any of the touches.
Any help would be incredibly appreciated.
EDIT: I have a screen protector on my note, I'm sure that won't effect anything, but throwing that extra information out just in case.
Thanks,
Chandler
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My original stylus died out, samsung sent me new tips and I tried those. That did not work, so I just went ahead and bought a new stylus all together and that IS NOT WORKING either, I even tried replacing the tips on the new one, to no avail. I can use my finger just fine and the note knows when I dock/undock the pen, it just is not reading any of the touches.
Any help would be incredibly appreciated.
EDIT: I have a screen protector on my note, I'm sure that won't effect anything, but throwing that extra information out just in case.
Thanks,
Chandler
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It's a wacom technology so if the problem isn't the pen, it's probably the device itself. Try replacing it?
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ChandlerC said:
My original stylus died out, samsung sent me new tips and I tried those. That did not work, so I just went ahead and bought a new stylus all together and that IS NOT WORKING either, I even tried replacing the tips on the new one, to no avail. I can use my finger just fine and the note knows when I dock/undock the pen, it just is not reading any of the touches.
Any help would be incredibly appreciated.
EDIT: I have a screen protector on my note, I'm sure that won't effect anything, but throwing that extra information out just in case.
Thanks,
Chandler
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how about some more detals:
Model#
How long did you have it?
How long was the pen working for before it stopped?
Did you always have the screen protector on it?
Was it working before and after the screen protector...
Is it rooted?
Had you flashed any custom rom ?
Use Odin to flash back to the OFFICAL Rom and install CWM again (steps to root 10.1), then install Supersu
This will fix the issue that makes the stylus unusable through flashing some custom roms
Hi,
I've found on my Note 10.1 that the accuracy of the S-Pen gets worse near the edges of the display. At the very edges it's off by about 1 mm or slightly more. I can't say it's really caused any problems but I'm wondering if this is normal and if there's any method to better calibrate it?
I've been having the same issue, or at least I noticed it recently...
Does anyone know anything about this problem?
This has been bothering me a lot lately, especially since i use my Note for note taking. Bump in case someone knows the solution.
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Here's the response from Samsung support:
Thank you for contacting Samsung Customer Care.
We understand that while using the S pen near edges it looses accuracy.
We are sorry to hear that.
Please try replacing the S pen tip to isolate and fix the issue.
It is not possible to calibrate the digitizer.
Thank you for contacting Samsung.
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I''''ve found the S-Pen (as viewed by enabling the hovering pointer) loses accuracy the closer to the edge of the screen the pen is used. At the edges it is off by at least 1 mm. About 1 cm in from the edges the accuracy is good.
Is this a defect in my unit or are they all like this? is there any way to recalibrate the digitizer to improve accuracy?
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I tried changing the tip with both types of tips supplied with the tablet and as expected it had no effect. Note, also, how utterly useless Samsung email support is. The only way to reply is through a link which sends you to a contact form to submit a new email from scratch. There's no incident number or any way to establish continuity.
In any case, I happened to be at a Microsoft store yesterday and played a bit with Samsung's ACTIV (sp?) pro Windows 8 tablet which has the same s-pen as the Note 10.1. What I noticed immediately is it behaves exactly like my tablet: the digitizer loses accuracy both when tilting the pen and especially when the pen is near the edges of the display. The amount of inaccuracy is just about the same too, about 1 mm near the edge.
So I suspect this may be a limitation of the technology or at least the technology as it's being used by Samsung (I'm surprised Wacom's stuff is not more accurate). I'd be particularly interested if anyone is NOT seeing this.
It also seems silly that the display cannot be recalibrated or the driver does not support remapping. This seems like something that should be pretty easy to implement.
On the positive side, I can't say that I've experienced any real accuracy problems when in actual use. Probably I don't tend to write so close to the edge where it might be an issue. It's more an annoyance that the cursor doesn't quite match the tip. It's actually less annoying than having my hand trigger s-note's zoom or the notification drawer every time I try to write something.
Too bad, samsung support is horrible. For me this problem is pretty annoying since I tend to write until the VERY edge (just like I do in real paper), so I guess I'll have to change my habits lol.
P.S: It's good to know that is not my faulty tablet, but something "normal" in wacom devices...
nahuelarg86 said:
Too bad, samsung support is horrible. For me this problem is pretty annoying since I tend to write until the VERY edge (just like I do in real paper), so I guess I'll have to change my habits lol.
P.S: It's good to know that is not my faulty tablet, but something "normal" in wacom devices...
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Yes, it is annoying. I wonder if there's any dev we can convince to write a remapping layer to fix this issue.
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Here's the response from Samsung support:
I tried changing the tip with both types of tips supplied with the tablet and as expected it had no effect. Note, also, how utterly useless Samsung email support is. The only way to reply is through a link which sends you to a contact form to submit a new email from scratch. There's no incident number or any way to establish continuity.
In any case, I happened to be at a Microsoft store yesterday and played a bit with Samsung's ACTIV (sp?) pro Windows 8 tablet which has the same s-pen as the Note 10.1. What I noticed immediately is it behaves exactly like my tablet: the digitizer loses accuracy both when tilting the pen and especially when the pen is near the edges of the display. The amount of inaccuracy is just about the same too, about 1 mm near the edge.
So I suspect this may be a limitation of the technology or at least the technology as it's being used by Samsung (I'm surprised Wacom's stuff is not more accurate). I'd be particularly interested if anyone is NOT seeing this.
It also seems silly that the display cannot be recalibrated or the driver does not support remapping. This seems like something that should be pretty easy to implement.
On the positive side, I can't say that I've experienced any real accuracy problems when in actual use. Probably I don't tend to write so close to the edge where it might be an issue. It's more an annoyance that the cursor doesn't quite match the tip. It's actually less annoying than having my hand trigger s-note's zoom or the notification drawer every time I try to write something.
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I wouldn't expect much help from a company that hires people who don't know the difference between "loses" and "looses". That's sad.
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Do you use magnet type cover? Try to remove it and see if the problem fixed
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Hi to all. I am having a note 2, it has the same s pen as all the note series... i had that problem but it fixed when i did update! Try to go on developers options and check 'show pointer location' to check if the problem is the spen or the software.
I also notices that when used near the camera there is a great loss of accuracy .... and good to know that's not hte fault of my Note:good:
Scorpion_Ibm said:
I also notices that when used near the camera there is a great loss of accuracy .... and good to know that's not hte fault of my Note:good:
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Mine just works fine, even on the ledges! Sometimes, but sometimes when the accelerometer is uncalibrated the S-Pen just stop responding well. I calibrate the accelerometer using this game https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fgol.HungrySharkEvolution Just go on Options/Change to tilt control(If necessary)/Calibrate
It worked for me!
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Mine just works fine, even on the ledges! Sometimes, but sometimes when the accelerometer is uncalibrated the S-Pen just stop responding well. I calibrate the accelerometer using this game https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fgol.HungrySharkEvolution Just go on Options/Change to tilt control(If necessary)/Calibrate
It worked for me!
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Thanks for trying to help .... the slight offset near the edges is no problem for me but i had a relatively bigger offset near the top (near the cameras) but that appeared to be due to the magnetic part in the book cover i had what an idiot .. i thought the camera had magnetic parts that do this and forgot the magnet of my book cover
So now what i really have is the offset near the edges
For me it's not an overall offset issue but just near the edges where it makes taking notes, sketching particularly difficult. It's very frustrating that these tablets aren't better calibrated out of box and provide no option for calibration. I'd be very surprised if this couldn't be fixed through software but would probably require support through the driver.
The other issue I have is that the drawing point only visually aligns with the tip of the pen when the pen is 90 degree from the tablet and you're looking straight down at it. Provided you hold the pen at a relatively steep angle and you angle the tablet so you're looking mostly down at it (say on your knee or a tilted stand) it's not bad. But once you deviate from that, say by putting the tablet flat on a table in front of you so you're looking at down at around 30 degrees, the deviation from where the tip appear to be and where the drawing point is becomes significant. I find this very frustrating. While I still prefer the s-pen to a passive capacitive pen, the fact I can't draw where I think I'm drawing makes it hard to work with. I've been using the tablet as my primary note taking device but I'm getting frustrated enough that I may go back to pen and paper and scanning.
It's probably not possible to fix this issue without hardware changes. Although multiple calibration profiles might reduce the effect.
I guess I'll have to wait for better hardware before I can finally live a paperless life...
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For me it's not an overall offset issue but just near the edges where it makes taking notes, sketching particularly difficult. It's very frustrating that these tablets aren't better calibrated out of box and provide no option for calibration. I'd be very surprised if this couldn't be fixed through software but would probably require support through the driver.
The other issue I have is that the drawing point only visually aligns with the tip of the pen when the pen is 90 degree from the tablet and you're looking straight down at it. Provided you hold the pen at a relatively steep angle and you angle the tablet so you're looking mostly down at it (say on your knee or a tilted stand) it's not bad. But once you deviate from that, say by putting the tablet flat on a table in front of you so you're looking at down at around 30 degrees, the deviation from where the tip appear to be and where the drawing point is becomes significant. I find this very frustrating. While I still prefer the s-pen to a passive capacitive pen, the fact I can't draw where I think I'm drawing makes it hard to work with. I've been using the tablet as my primary note taking device but I'm getting frustrated enough that I may go back to pen and paper and scanning.
It's probably not possible to fix this issue without hardware changes. Although multiple calibration profiles might reduce the effect.
I guess I'll have to wait for better hardware before I can finally live a paperless life...
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May be try this app with this kernel the post says that it can successfully reset the Spen callibration
Post with kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2299406
App: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.whitedavidp.reset.spen
It was the case
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Do you use magnet type cover? Try to remove it and see if the problem fixed
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That was it for me. The case was causing that. When I read your post I realized that my case has a keyboard and you can remove it. It stays in place with a magnet. So I removed it and it works as expected. so now I know to get it on the edges it's that. Thanks:good:
I recently purchased a used note 10.1, and I must be doing something wrong. I tried searching for this question, but I could not find quite the same thing.
I got the note mostly because I have always wanted to have a tablet with a pressure sensitive stylus (s-pen), but they were out of my price range until recently.
I want to be able to put down a very thin line, and then be able to bring it up to a thicker line. I CAN do this in papyrus, beautifully and perfectly. But I cannot seem to do it to nearly the same quality in S Note, on the exact same tablet, in the tablet's native note software (the software the stylus was made to be used for).
I can put down a far more delicate line in papyrus. But with the exact same pressure, I lose the line entirely in S Note, as if I am not applying enough pressure to register the line. But the pressure is the same.
My question is...why is this? Am I doing something wrong? I want to be able to use S Note in all it's glory, with all of the cool integrative features, but I want the pen to perform as good as papyrus. I am aware that I can physically adjust the sensitivity of the pen by taking the button off, but then my notes would look bad in papyrus. Do I need to pull apart the s-pen and adjust the sensitivity for each individual program?
HELP! Very irritated by this.
Each app has it's own pressure sensitivity and filter settings. With Lecturenotes you can edit some of those settings.
About your issue, maybe buy another stylus and adjust it for Snote only?
Is there a root app that manages all that? A separate s-pen for different apps is an expensive choice.
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Video of difference
ZagrebMasta said:
Each app has it's own pressure sensitivity and filter settings. With Lecturenotes you can edit some of those settings.
About your issue, maybe buy another stylus and adjust it for Snote only?
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So I adjusted the pen with the instructions so that it is just less then marking when hovering, as soon as the pen makes contact it begins to mark, but then the slightest touch of the s-pen makes a comparably big fat line. I made a video showing the difference.
http://youtu.be/3ZaIuEkIBR4
What am I doing wrong? Does S-note just suck for everyone? Or just me?
So it turns out that the snote "pen" simply does not exhibit pressure sensitively. Pencil does. So I guess I'm stuck with a fuzzy line if I want pressure sensitivity. I wish I could download more writing implements. A gel tip or a calligraphy ps pen would be amazing. Oh well.
adrockr said:
So it turns out that the snote "pen" simply does not exhibit pressure sensitively. Pencil does. So I guess I'm stuck with a fuzzy line if I want pressure sensitivity. I wish I could download more writing implements. A gel tip or a calligraphy ps pen would be amazing. Oh well.
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Have you tried OneNote? Handwritting was added in the last update and it does what you want, nice pressure sensitivity writting.
I have tbe 12.2 note pro the spen response is worst very laggy and slow is there anything I can do to make it respond better?
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abozizo said:
I have tbe 12.2 note pro the spen response is worst very laggy and slow is there anything I can do to make it respond better?
thanks
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Is it in all types of use or only specific actions? Also be aware that the pen functionality is sensitive to magnetic fields so if you have a case on the tablet test to see if things improve without the case even if you doubt the presence of magnets inside it.
Yes, there is.
Follow the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54772260&postcount=18
muzzy996 said:
Is it in all types of use or only specific actions? Also be aware that the pen functionality is sensitive to magnetic fields so if you have a case on the tablet test to see if things improve without the case even if you doubt the presence of magnets inside it.
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It's when I am using s-note when I am writing there is a difference between the nib place on the screen and the writing.
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Yes, there is.
Follow the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54772260&postcount=18
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I tried it but still when using s-note is still the same I even tried the note 4 pen but still the same any other solution?
Ah. S Note. There's nothing you can do about that particular snail in terms of adjusting the pen, I'm afraid.
You can try wiping data and cache for S Note (Which will wipe your notes, back them up), or disabling the sync for it.
Alternatively, ditch S Note and try Lecture Notes or Papyrus.
Why did you try the Note 4 pen? The sensitivity for it lies in the sensors on the phone, not in the magnet encapsuled in the plastic pen....
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Ah. S Note. There's nothing you can do about that particular snail in terms of adjusting the pen, I'm afraid.
You can try wiping data and cache for S Note (Which will wipe your notes, back them up), or disabling the sync for it.
Alternatively, ditch S Note and try Lecture Notes or Papyrus.
Why did you try the Note 4 pen? The sensitivity for it lies in the sensors on the phone, not in the magnet encapsuled in the plastic pen....
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Thanks for the advice papyrus is very good.
Is there anything coming to fix the snote or it's better to sell the note pro and get something else?
abozizo said:
Thanks for the advice papyrus is very good.
Is there anything coming to fix the snote or it's better to sell the note pro and get something else?
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If you're not experiencing the issue anywhere outside S Note, then it's just the app. (I've seen a few more threads about it here.) I don't think it's actually optimized for 12.2".
The device isn't the problem, the app is. I've also heard people complain about sluggish S Note on the Note 3, Note 4 and Note 10.1"
Maybe someone else knows a fix. I just simply not use S Note.