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So starting off with this phone I know it doesn't have the best internal storage. When apps are moved to the SD some of the app stays behind on the internal storage, I know that. I have had 2 shifts. My first one i dropped, cracked the screen, and the insurance gave me a new one. On my first shift at the time I had about 70mb of free space left when I sent it in. Before sending it I made a titanium backup and restored that on my shift I have today. When I restored it I had about 120mb of free space. (NOT THE PROBLEM READ ON)
So the point is something in the system is causing massive storage to fill up over time, and its not apps. I have force moved apps and that only helps a little. Is it a certin cache that I can clear? please help!
At the moment I have 60mb of free storage, that is with the app cache cleared through App2SD
Right I have the following : System ROM 219MB , Internal 222MB , SD Card 8.32 GB . When you long press on an app in TB it should give you the option to move to SD card. You shouldn't have to force move an app. When you restored all your apps did you restore apps and data? Or just the app? Also after restoring with TB you need to make sure the app was restored to the correct place. There's an option I usually check in the preferances before I restore all my apps. It restores to the previous location you had the app. Hope that helps.
I restored the apps and data... This isn't a problem with tb, its a problem with some storage/cache something building up in the system
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My email took up a lot of storage on my old hero because everytime I deleted something it still stayed on a new folder called imap/trash... it was taking up about 50mb so you might want to look into that
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In your sd card or internal? There was a folder on my sd called .trashes and it had everything I had deleted on my sd. Where exactly is it located? Ill look in root explorer.
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Don't know if your restoring SMS with something. But if your are sometimes that takes up hella space. Did a phone that had over 25MB of SMS messages restore back onto it on internal mem.
i will see, i also use a tool called disk usage. you have probubly heard of it but it maps out everything and the amount of space it takes up. you can narrow the results to a certin cache or whatever. ive seen that apps like pandora are taking up space in the dalvik cache. Its only like a mb or 2 but still. do you know anything about apps storing things in the dalvik?
what is the dalvik even for anyway?
I've been trying to go back to stock today, so I've wiped a few times, but I've got 430MB total space internal, with 366MB free
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i dont understand what this has to do with this thread
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i will see, i also use a tool called disk usage. you have probubly heard of it but it maps out everything and the amount of space it takes up. you can narrow the results to a certin cache or whatever. ive seen that apps like pandora are taking up space in the dalvik cache. Its only like a mb or 2 but still. do you know anything about apps storing things in the dalvik?
what is the dalvik even for anyway?
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I beleive dalvik cache gets recreated everytime you reboot. But, about Pandora is it on the SD Card? Or internal mem? I listen to a TON of music. When I had Pandora on internal it was up to 12MB .So I moved it to the SD card, only 536KB on internal now.
My app is on the SD but it is storing over 1mb on internal
If you have DiskUsage go to the [root required] section and press 'App Storage'
if you can find pandora you will see that most of it is stored in the dalvik cache
Sorry I don't use DiskUsage app. Your right about how much is on internal. Mine reads 1.28MB.
any idea what it is storing there?
Drawing a blank on this, I'll keep looking. See if I can come up with something. But I'd probably head on over to theMikMik and see if somebody there can help.
My biggest space hog when I had problems was email... Try clearing data for email or gmail to see what happens (maybe back up first)
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Mail or gmail app..
I have both, a aim on the mail app and my gmail on the gmail app
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i cleared my cache partition, not sure what was stored there but it doesnt matter cleared up 20mb... is there any other ways i can get more space??? why are apps storing data in the dalvik??
Any other suggestions here? My wife's Shift is having this problem. Constant notification about low storage space. Can't even download any new apps. I have not rooted her phone yet, and not sure if I will; I don't want to have her have to go without for any length of time, and I don't think she wants things changed around so much as she just wants the thing to work, not to have to tinker or troubleshoot.
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Any other suggestions here? My wife's Shift is having this problem. Constant notification about low storage space. Can't even download any new apps. I have not rooted her phone yet, and not sure if I will; I don't want to have her have to go without for any length of time, and I don't think she wants things changed around so much as she just wants the thing to work, not to have to tinker or troubleshoot.
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Did you download a lot of apps? Try moving the apps to the SD Card. The path is Menu-Settings-Applications-Manage applications-Downloaded. Then just click on the applications one at a time. If the button says Move to SD card, and isn't greyed out press it. That should free up some space. If that doesn't work since your not rooted, I would just try a factory reset.
clear the folder /data/tombstones. App crashes and such create rather large files that can eat up quite a bit of space. Also check the cache folder at the root, failed market installs will have file fragments in there as well.
It seems whenever I reboot...I notice a bunch of apps gone..I reinstall and then when I reboot again...they either stay or get deleted again.
EDIT: my infuse did this when it was not rooted also. I just now rooted it and had to reinstall a bunch of apps...I did that and rebooted and voila. They are gone again.
Mine resets my wallpaper everytime I reboot :\
matermine said:
Mine resets my wallpaper everytime I reboot :\
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Yeah same here. Gets rid of my live wallpaper everytime.
Rooms?
Are you guys stock?
tyshemi said:
Are you guys stock?
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I was stock and I JUST now rooted it after a couple weeks of having it. It still did this before I rooted. Also my apps constantly force close now.
Fix try
Fee454 said:
I was stock and I JUST now rooted it after a couple weeks of having it. It still did this before I rooted.
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Ok go into settings-applications-all-move apps that are diisapering to the phone close reboot see if that works?
they come back after about 5 minuets or so. its because they are stored on the sd card.
i got used to it.
Does it matter that it says media scanning complete up top and I still dont see them?
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Move all the apps off the SD Card, then remove the SD Card to prevent future apps from being installed to it.
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I have a 32GB SD card which I would like to keep in the phone... :-/ But the apps themselves are on the internal SD I believe. it's odd...my friend doesn't have any of these issues...we both upgraded same day with the infuse. It could be something simple I am just a android noob and plan on living on these forums reading as much as I can.
the disappearing wallpaper is due to the wallpaper being on the sdcard and not phone storage (same device in a physical sense, different partition/device to the os) the ui loads before the sdcard mounts. the media scanner seems to run before the apps are loaded. so it needs to load the default wallpapper to unlock the phone.
the other disappearing apps may be due to the same thing but they should show before you have an opportunity to reinstall them, unless they are somehow on the external sd card and that sd card happens to be a class 2 or something slow like that.
i hate apps to sd for anything other than older phones that have under 512mb of phone storage. it just causes confusion, i dont really know why some apps like to install to the sd card on this phone others dont and it never asks you, this never happened on my captivate.
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the disappearing wallpaper is due to the wallpaper being on the sdcard and not phone storage (same device in a physical sense, different partition/device to the os) the ui loads before the sdcard mounts. the media scanner seems to run before the apps are loaded. so it needs to load the default wallpapper to unlock the phone.
the other disappearing apps may be due to the same thing but they should show before you have an opportunity to reinstall them, unless they are somehow on the external sd card and that sd card happens to be a class 2 or something slow like that.
i hate apps to sd for anything other than older phones that have under 512mb of phone storage. it just causes confusion, i dont really know why some apps like to install to the sd card on this phone others dont and it never asks you, this never happened on my captivate.
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Hmm...makes sense...I do have a 32gb sd class 2 sandisk card but i've heard mixed things on whether the different classes matter on the Infuse. But yes the apps issue is strange...but they are on the internal SD. Some are on the phone. So moving them all to the phone should fix the disappearing issue?
I just worry about running out of space. phone memory is only 2gb.
Fee454 said:
Hmm...makes sense...I do have a 32gb sd class 2 sandisk card but i've heard mixed things on whether the different classes matter on the Infuse. But yes the apps issue is strange...but they are on the internal SD. Some are on the phone. So moving them all to the phone should fix the disappearing issue?
I just worry about running out of space. phone memory is only 2gb.
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2GB is a pretty huge amount of space for apps so I wouldn't worry about that. Some of the larger games that require downloading extra cache files, like Order & Chaos, save that to a special cache folder that AFAIK doesn't count towards the 2GB internal memory limit (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Does anyone know of a way to disable apps saving to the SD card by default? In other words, how can we ensure that we always save apps to the phone? Saving to SD actually causes one of my favorite apps, SoundHound, to not work correctly as the widget isn't available, even after I move it to the phone memory.
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2GB is a pretty huge amount of space for apps so I wouldn't worry about that. Some of the larger games that require downloading extra cache files, like Order & Chaos, save that to a special cache folder that AFAIK doesn't count towards the 2GB internal memory limit (please correct me if I'm wrong).
Does anyone know of a way to disable apps saving to the SD card by default? In other words, how can we ensure that we always save apps to the phone? Saving to SD actually causes one of my favorite apps, SoundHound, to not work correctly as the widget isn't available, even after I move it to the phone memory.
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My current problems are, everytime I reboot my break.com app gets deleted and has to be reinstalled...it won't let me move it to phone memory. Netflix app gets deleted also. When I try to move that to phone is says low memory. I have 1.4gb free on it.
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My current problems are, everytime I reboot my break.com app gets deleted and has to be reinstalled...it won't let me move it to phone memory. Netflix app gets deleted also. When I try to move that to phone is says low memory. I have 1.4gb free on it.
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That sucks. If it makes you feel any better, sometimes my Infuse will say that I have insufficient memory to install a new app as well, when I have more than 1.5GB free. :-[
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That sucks. If it makes you feel any better, sometimes my Infuse will say that I have insufficient memory to install a new app as well, when I have more than 1.5GB free. :-[
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Do you have the new android market? Try uninstalling it and using the old one. It fixed my issue when trying to download apps.
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they come back after about 5 minuets or so. its because they are stored on the sd card.
i got used to it.
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i hate the delay on loading apps that are on the sdcard. i moved every single app i have on to the phone and dont have to wait 5 minutes to use my phone. apps on the sdcard are also slower and cant include more advanced features like widgets. sadly since theres two sdcards, theres no option to have apps install to the phone by default.
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i hate the delay on loading apps that are on the sdcard. i moved every single app i have on to the phone and dont have to wait 5 minutes to use my phone. apps on the sdcard are also slower and cant include more advanced features like widgets. sadly since theres two sdcards, theres no option to have apps install to the phone by default.
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It's odd...I have moved all the apps I could to my phone memory and since then I have had no problems after reboots except the break.com and netflix app. Not really a big deal it only takes a few seconds to reinstall those. I have waited 5-10 min after bootup for those to come back but they do not. Just a minor annoyance though.
i can imagine big video apps caching to the sdcard.
Actually for whatever reason I was able to move the break app to my phone this time. Only took 20 reinstalls lol
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So, I just got my new G2X yesterday and loaded all the apps that I had on my MyTouch 4g before. Today I tried to download a 25MB app and my phone is already saying that there isn't enough storage space. When I check under storage it shows that I have 1.2 GB left on my internal storage. So if I have over a gig left why can't I download a 25MB app?
OK, so, come to find out that the Amazon market was able to DL apps perfectly fine so I uninstalled the Android Market updates and then it started working again. So, for what it's worth.
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OK, so, come to find out that the Amazon market was able to DL apps perfectly fine so I uninstalled the Android Market updates and then it started working again. So, for what it's worth.
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What would have been helpful was a better description of what you were doing, the full message you received.
The market downloads apps to a temporary cache before installing them. If you try to download many apps at the same time sometimes you will get the out of memory error. I got it on my Nexus One often. It has nothing to do with how much usable memory you actually have left. If you are downloading a large app download it alone and don't download any other apps at the same time.
Good advice. That's happened to me before.
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The market downloads apps to a temporary cache before installing them. If you try to download many apps at the same time sometimes you will get the out of memory error. I got it on my Nexus One often. It has nothing to do with how much usable memory you actually have left. If you are downloading a large app download it alone and don't download any other apps at the same time.
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Good call. I'll be sure to keep that in mind in the future. thanks.
Not to thread jack. where I'm having storage issues is the way it seems my SD card is being handled. For whatever reason my phone shows as having 3 storage locations SD card, Phone memory and Internal phone storage. The issue is that when using music players when picking a source it only lets me choose from either internal storage or external storage but the internal storage is the Internal phone storage and the external storage is the Phone memory. Leaving me without an option to choose the SD card. What's even more strange is that it does pull music from the SD card but now alot of the tags are messed up. All the tags are correct. I've doubled and tripled checked that. Leaves me scratching my head as to what is going on.
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The market downloads apps to a temporary cache before installing them. If you try to download many apps at the same time sometimes you will get the out of memory error. I got it on my Nexus One often. It has nothing to do with how much usable memory you actually have left. If you are downloading a large app download it alone and don't download any other apps at the same time.
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I learned something new today Thanks man
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jboxer said:
The market downloads apps to a temporary cache before installing them. If you try to download many apps at the same time sometimes you will get the out of memory error. I got it on my Nexus One often. It has nothing to do with how much usable memory you actually have left. If you are downloading a large app download it alone and don't download any other apps at the same time.
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Makes sense. Do you know if this is adjustable? Noticed more and more storage issues with the new market.
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The market downloads apps to a temporary cache before installing them. If you try to download many apps at the same time sometimes you will get the out of memory error. I got it on my Nexus One often. It has nothing to do with how much usable memory you actually have left. If you are downloading a large app download it alone and don't download any other apps at the same time.
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Any idea how many apps is too many? I've had at least 15 or 16 apps downloading/updating at once on this phone and I never got an error.
On WI-FI I downloaded 10 at a time no problem. On phones data 5 no problems.
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Is anyone having trouble with pictures deleting or becoming unreadable?
I also had a app uninstall its self....
I have had 1 pic problem and a few SD card errors when I know I have 13gigs free. A retry on the download has helped with the app install though.
I downloaded camera zoom ex and when I take pics, usually the first file is unreadable. One recorded video did that as well. No issues with apps yet, lets hope it doesn't get worse.
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Is anyone having trouble with pictures deleting or becoming unreadable?
I also had a app uninstall its self....
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I haven't had anything with pictures, but I have had the erroneous "not enough room" error and apps have become broken (cannot launch..) and require an uninstall/reinstall. When this happens, in the list of applications, they don't have the "nice" application name, they have the real? name such as net.hexage.radiant.hd
I had installed a circle battery mod widget from the market and when i went to take a screenshot i got a r/o error. But ever since uinstalling said app its been fine.
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The attic is kind of weird when it comes to memory. Im thinking it mounts your external like internal and users the actual internal as internal. You have to get a third party file explorer to even see the internal memory. Kind of blows... But once you get used to it you work around it.
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So one of my apps that mysteriously uninstalled itself (but the icon remained) decided to start working again (i never bothered to reinstall it and just left the icon, but then it started working again). Weird.
And yeah, even pictures i took that "stayed" are now corrupt. We have memory issues.
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So one of my apps that mysteriously uninstalled itself (but the icon remained) decided to start working again (i never bothered to reinstall it and just left the icon, but then it started working again). Weird.
And yeah, even pictures i took that "stayed" are now corrupt. We have memory issues.
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I've noticed that the first picture I take is corrupted, I just have to take multiple pictures and everything turns out fine. I downloaded camera zoom fx and its 10x better than the stock camera app.
Do you find less issues using that app? Can it use the stock camera button?
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Do you find less issues using that app? Can it use the stock camera button?
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Loving this app, it has torch mode while taking pics... Helps the night shots a lot. Camera button works and it does a ton more than stock Moto cam app can do
Still having memory issues. Wouldnt save a single picture from my email or internet all day. "download unsuccessful" for web pics or "download failed" for email pics.
Pretty lame.
for those of you with issues, are you installing apps to sd card?
i'm thinking what it's doing is when you use apps2sd, it's mounts sdcard-ext as dynamic on the internal memory, but then redirects all sdcard items to sdcard-ext instead of /sdcard. ie apps2sd moves apps to /sdcard-ext and sizes that partition as needed (say 400mb apps, it sizes at 500mb). you take a pic, it goes to save it, but the system is now directing it to /sdcard-ext instead of /sdcard. it sees that there is only 500mb left and kicks it out or activates the low memory message.
if you're installing apps to the sdcard, turn off the phone, pull the microsd card out and pop it into your computer and see what's on it.
i also think that if you use a microsd card, you forfeit the entire 8gb internal storage.
then again, i could be wrong...
Ive been installing on the internal memory.
Thing is, some stuff saved on the memory card (ie from inet etc) will sometimes just become unreadable. This phone has some caching issues or something.
And judging by all the complaints etc, i doubt its a memory card issue.
ok, i removed my sdcard
storage still reads at 4.77GB internal
when i try to take a pic, it tells me to insert an sdcard.
8gb is a lot of space for apps lol 10k justin beiber fart soundboards
Jusy found this. I thik its basically saying the 8 gigs that are supposed to come built into the phone are already being used. Kinda dumb.... https://motorola-global-portal.cust...71812/~/internal-and-external-memory-(atrix-2)
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4gigs for apps is awesome! doesn't everyone need a couple thousand apps on their phone?and why in the world does a Linux based phone os need 4gigs of space?
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mtnlion said:
4gigs for apps is awesome! doesn't everyone need a couple thousand apps on their phone?and why in the world does a Linux based phone os need 4gigs of space?
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do you realize how many "talking [insert something stupid here]" apps and "[insert infamous person here] fart sound board" apps there are available?
This damn memory bug is really bothering me... i couldnt save a picture from gmail today to save my life. Failed. Failed. Failed. Cannot load.
I guess i can try a class 4 memory card? I have a 6 now... and with class 10 being out there, seems stupid that this would have issues with anything at all, much less a 6.
Have you tried pulling out your card and reformatting it?
No... i guess i could. Would just be a bit of a pain transferring my 16gb to the PC and back again, but ill give it a shot.
But at the end of the day, the phone does have memory issues, that more than likely be solved with an update, so thats good.
Hey I'm currently using a HTC HD2 with Android 2.2 and having issues with storage.
I remember when I first received this phone, I downloaded multiple apps/games and there was enough space for all of them. However after few months of use I was hit with the "Low On Space" notification. So I deleted apps that I wasn't using and fewed a few on SD card. A few more months now and I realise I have no games on my phone and every app that I need is on SD card, yet I'm still given the "Low On Space." Could anyone explain what is happening?
I've read a few other posts and googled but I'm so confused in what they mean. Some suggest moving caches and others tell me to try another ROM. Absolutely no clue what they mean :S
Thanks.
First of all, wipe all caches. Do this by downloading any cache cleaner application and using its primary function.
Also, I once got an extra 30mb of space by using root explorer, going into /data/ and looking around for useless files and deleting them
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Hey thx for the reply, I downloaded app cache cleaner and cleared about 11mb which is very helpful. Also I use OI file manager and browsed into data, but nothing is there (or perhaps its hidden not sure). Thx for the tip thou
No problem
Another tip is to delete your browser history (if you don't really care about it), for me it takes up a lot of space
Deleting old sms and mms messages, clearing call log help as well.
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Link2SD
If you have root, you can moove every app on SD-card. Download Link2SD, create 2nd partition on SD (i have 300MB FAT32) card and enjoy the space. Evenif you change rom, you can link apps what you have on SD