[Q] storage problem/free space -- what is taking up so much?? - EVO Shift 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So starting off with this phone I know it doesn't have the best internal storage. When apps are moved to the SD some of the app stays behind on the internal storage, I know that. I have had 2 shifts. My first one i dropped, cracked the screen, and the insurance gave me a new one. On my first shift at the time I had about 70mb of free space left when I sent it in. Before sending it I made a titanium backup and restored that on my shift I have today. When I restored it I had about 120mb of free space. (NOT THE PROBLEM READ ON)
So the point is something in the system is causing massive storage to fill up over time, and its not apps. I have force moved apps and that only helps a little. Is it a certin cache that I can clear? please help!
At the moment I have 60mb of free storage, that is with the app cache cleared through App2SD

Right I have the following : System ROM 219MB , Internal 222MB , SD Card 8.32 GB . When you long press on an app in TB it should give you the option to move to SD card. You shouldn't have to force move an app. When you restored all your apps did you restore apps and data? Or just the app? Also after restoring with TB you need to make sure the app was restored to the correct place. There's an option I usually check in the preferances before I restore all my apps. It restores to the previous location you had the app. Hope that helps.

I restored the apps and data... This isn't a problem with tb, its a problem with some storage/cache something building up in the system
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My email took up a lot of storage on my old hero because everytime I deleted something it still stayed on a new folder called imap/trash... it was taking up about 50mb so you might want to look into that
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In your sd card or internal? There was a folder on my sd called .trashes and it had everything I had deleted on my sd. Where exactly is it located? Ill look in root explorer.
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Don't know if your restoring SMS with something. But if your are sometimes that takes up hella space. Did a phone that had over 25MB of SMS messages restore back onto it on internal mem.

i will see, i also use a tool called disk usage. you have probubly heard of it but it maps out everything and the amount of space it takes up. you can narrow the results to a certin cache or whatever. ive seen that apps like pandora are taking up space in the dalvik cache. Its only like a mb or 2 but still. do you know anything about apps storing things in the dalvik?
what is the dalvik even for anyway?

I've been trying to go back to stock today, so I've wiped a few times, but I've got 430MB total space internal, with 366MB free

and.....
i dont understand what this has to do with this thread

im.nick.hello said:
i will see, i also use a tool called disk usage. you have probubly heard of it but it maps out everything and the amount of space it takes up. you can narrow the results to a certin cache or whatever. ive seen that apps like pandora are taking up space in the dalvik cache. Its only like a mb or 2 but still. do you know anything about apps storing things in the dalvik?
what is the dalvik even for anyway?
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I beleive dalvik cache gets recreated everytime you reboot. But, about Pandora is it on the SD Card? Or internal mem? I listen to a TON of music. When I had Pandora on internal it was up to 12MB .So I moved it to the SD card, only 536KB on internal now.

My app is on the SD but it is storing over 1mb on internal
If you have DiskUsage go to the [root required] section and press 'App Storage'
if you can find pandora you will see that most of it is stored in the dalvik cache

Sorry I don't use DiskUsage app. Your right about how much is on internal. Mine reads 1.28MB.

any idea what it is storing there?

Drawing a blank on this, I'll keep looking. See if I can come up with something. But I'd probably head on over to theMikMik and see if somebody there can help.

My biggest space hog when I had problems was email... Try clearing data for email or gmail to see what happens (maybe back up first)
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Mail or gmail app..
I have both, a aim on the mail app and my gmail on the gmail app
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i cleared my cache partition, not sure what was stored there but it doesnt matter cleared up 20mb... is there any other ways i can get more space??? why are apps storing data in the dalvik??

Any other suggestions here? My wife's Shift is having this problem. Constant notification about low storage space. Can't even download any new apps. I have not rooted her phone yet, and not sure if I will; I don't want to have her have to go without for any length of time, and I don't think she wants things changed around so much as she just wants the thing to work, not to have to tinker or troubleshoot.

Captain Spectacular said:
Any other suggestions here? My wife's Shift is having this problem. Constant notification about low storage space. Can't even download any new apps. I have not rooted her phone yet, and not sure if I will; I don't want to have her have to go without for any length of time, and I don't think she wants things changed around so much as she just wants the thing to work, not to have to tinker or troubleshoot.
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Did you download a lot of apps? Try moving the apps to the SD Card. The path is Menu-Settings-Applications-Manage applications-Downloaded. Then just click on the applications one at a time. If the button says Move to SD card, and isn't greyed out press it. That should free up some space. If that doesn't work since your not rooted, I would just try a factory reset.

clear the folder /data/tombstones. App crashes and such create rather large files that can eat up quite a bit of space. Also check the cache folder at the root, failed market installs will have file fragments in there as well.

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Moved cache. Browser still eating up memory

So, I moved all my caches to the SD card, but the browser is still eating up memory. 17mb worth so far.
Why?
Henchman said:
So, I moved all my caches to the SD card, but the browser is still eating up memory. 17mb worth so far.
Why?
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Which method did you use to execute CACHES to SD?
I've wondered about this as well since I've moved all my caches, and yet everytime I launch the browser I get a low space warning.
Just started happening to me as well, I haven't moved all cache to sd card though.
Henchman said:
So, I moved all my caches to the SD card, but the browser is still eating up memory. 17mb worth so far.
Why?
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where are you checking browser cache? because if you look under the applications you will always see the size of the cache .. no matter where it's located .. under my applications it states i have about 100M of space used on a 74M phone with 40M free .. how do you know it's "eating up" memory?
LucidREM said:
where are you checking browser cache? because if you look under the applications you will always see the size of the cache .. no matter where it's located .. under my applications it states i have about 100M of space used on a 74M phone with 40M free .. how do you know it's "eating up" memory?
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See, that's strange.
I've moved apps and caches to the ext2 partition using a sript moveallcachesext2.sh
And my memory slowly kept going down to 7 meg.
I backed up my bookmarks and under applications deleted the browser data.
And I went back to 25 meg free.
But it's slowly going down again.
Henchman said:
See, that's strange.
I've moved apps and caches to the ext2 partition using a sript moveallcachesext2.sh
And my memory slowly kept going down to 7 meg.
I backed up my bookmarks and under applications deleted the browser data.
And I went back to 25 meg free.
But it's slowly going down again.
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so how did you move the apps? or did you just move the cache files?
LucidREM said:
so how did you move the apps? or did you just move the cache files?
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I used the instructions(or a script. don't remember which) that I found here on xda
You probably missed the app_thumbnails directory in the browser's data directory. This one was taking up far more space (17 MB in my case) than the cache when I was investigating why my all of my storage space was gone.
I'm not sure what this this is. The files in it don't appear to be images (the linux file command can't identify them, anyway), and it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for the browser to be keeping track of thumbnails of anything beyond tabs (which should die when the browser is closed -- not be collecting indefinitely -- unless of course there was a bug preventing them from being properly deleted). Does anyone know what data is stored in app_thumbnails?
Henchman said:
See, that's strange.
I've moved apps and caches to the ext2 partition using a sript moveallcachesext2.sh
And my memory slowly kept going down to 7 meg.
I backed up my bookmarks and under applications deleted the browser data.
And I went back to 25 meg free.
But it's slowly going down again.
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moveallcachesext2.sh only moves cache.
That could be why your internal memory keeps getting lower when you dl apps.
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moveallcachesext2.sh only moves cache.
That could be why your internal memory keeps getting lower when you dl apps.
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No, actually. I moved the apps using a differnt script/command.
I didn't say it was getting lower using the Apps, I said it was getting lower using the browser.
Why oh Why did they make the G1 with such a pitifull small amount of internal RAM?
LUCIDREM, BTW, it's your JFvMOD I'm using.
how do you clear the cache once it's on the ext2?
Don't mean to thread jack, but didn't want to start a separate thread on sth. that may have been already answered. I just couldn't find it anywhere(and I read the whole 57 page thread on moving the apps to the sd card by Lucid, and then some more threads)Anyway....
I have moved the apps and data using LucidREM's MOD and everything is working fine. My only concern is how to clear the cache once it's on the ext2 partition? I'm presuming that's where i moved it with the lucidREM's copy.sh data script.
And is there any way of knowing which application/cache goes where, or viewing the ext2 files, cause I as well see a decrease of my intrnl memory. Not sure if it's a cache or an app, or both.
Thanks in advance!
P.S. Just wanted to say BIG THANK YOU! to all the devs on xda. If it wasn't for you guys I would've already given up on my phone.
ok i was having this same problem up till today when i found stumbled onto a post over a androidcommunity.com. i dnt have the exact link ill post it up later but all u have to do is run the "moveallcachesext2.sh" in the terminal emulator again and also for this to work you can't clear the browser in manage apps or within the browser. It should stay around 3mb all the time. Okay so after u run the script again browse around a lil bit and see if it fixed the problem. And if not open terminal emulater and navigate to the data/data/com.android.browser cache and type ln -s /system/sd/cache/webviewCache webviewCache and then browse around and make sure your broswer stays round 3mb...remeber dnt clear cache or ull have to redo the link
I'm having the same problem. With cache and history cleared, the browser is eating up 27 MB. I really need help.
if you did the moveallcachesfat32.sh, and you keep going to menu > applications > manage applications > browser > clear data (or something)
it will erase the symlink and therefore the browser caches to sd link will be erased and you would have to redo it.

anyway to see which apps are eating up my internal memory?

Hello everyone,
I have froyo on N1 Tmo.
I used this trick from adb
adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2
to move and then install all apps to the SD.
Yet, I'm down to 20MB memory and the warning keeps coming up in the notification bar.
I've gone thru the application remover and verified that almost every app is on the SD card, there are a few like google maps, that won't move.
Is there a way I can figure out what is using this internal memory? I've cleaned out my SMS and call logs, but I'm not sure how else to address this.
I just can't believe that the nexus one is having memory issues WTF!
cheers
To see which files fill up the most space on internal memory:
settings>applications>manage applications>press menu>sort by size
Hope it helps
Thanks. I was looking there but I think there is a disconnect in Android on that.
It seems that sorting them is by the app size, and since my apps all almost ALL installed on the SD card, my free RAM should be huge, yet it's not.
Looking closer, it looks like the "Data" field is where all the memory is being used up. It seems that all Data is stored internally.
For example Twonkymedia server is 3.67MB application size, but the data field is 65MB!!! When I cleared the data, I recovered 65MB of internal memory.
If there was away to make apps store their data on the SD...
Well I'm on a G1 Supercsdiv4 and it has this app that u can see what apps are open and which ones are using up ur memory, I think the app is on theunlockr.com
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[Q] Default intall location as internal memory

I am on Zeus ROM (actually, I don't think what ROM I am on matters here). After installing a few apps, I noticed that some apps go into internal memory, and some to external. I can't seem to get the logic of how it is decided where to direct which app. I never cared for install location, that is, until this morning.
I rebooted my phone in a routine once-a-week-reboot. When it booted up, it gave me a message that external sd got corrupt and needs to be reformatted. I overlooked it for the time being. Then when I reached work, I noticed about half my apps missing. Then it flashed to me that I noticed some apps in internal and some in external memory in TiBu.
I had to download TiBu too from market since it was missing, and then restored my apps. Now all are in internal memory since external card is corrupted.
Now, after all this history, my question would be to know if there is a way to force the default location of apps to internal memory. Infuse has loads of internal memory, and I see no harm in filling it up (well, that is, if I can really install that many apps).
diablo009 said:
I am on Zeus ROM (actually, I don't think what ROM I am on matters here). After installing a few apps, I noticed that some apps go into internal memory, and some to external. I can't seem to get the logic of how it is decided where to direct which app. I never cared for install location, that is, until this morning.
I rebooted my phone in a routine once-a-week-reboot. When it booted up, it gave me a message that external sd got corrupt and needs to be reformatted. I overlooked it for the time being. Then when I reached work, I noticed about half my apps missing. Then it flashed to me that I noticed some apps in internal and some in external memory in TiBu.
I had to download TiBu too from market since it was missing, and then restored my apps. Now all are in internal memory since external card is corrupted.
Now, after all this history, my question would be to know if there is a way to force the default location of apps to internal memory. Infuse has loads of internal memory, and I see no harm in filling it up (well, that is, if I can really install that many apps).
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This is exciting. I get to help diablo.
Could be a trick..maybe not as easy as it looks.
There is a setting in manage applications that allows you to Move the app from sd to phone. Is this what you mean?
Settings.manage application. Click on app. Move to phone?
There are some market app s that will let you choose where to install an app as well....folio? Something..
I routinely do this for app i deem important...ie not games etc..
Did i pass?
qkster said:
This is exciting. I get to help diablo.
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Thanks qkster, that's so cute
qkster said:
Could be a trick..maybe not as easy as it looks.
There is a setting in manage applications that allows you to Move the app from sd to phone. Is this what you mean?
Settings.manage application. Click on app. Move to phone?
There are some market app s that will let you choose where to install an app as well....folio? Something..
I routinely do this for app i deem important...ie not games etc..
Did i pass?
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Not moving from phone to SD manually; I have to do this routinely on my touch pad cos of its low internal memory.
I was looking for a means of forcing an app to install to internal memory as a default. Even as we speak, with about 62 apps installed, I still have about 1.4 GB internal memory free (as per TiBu). I would prefer an app to go there, than to external SD.
By the way, it helps to have TiBu auto backup apps every day. I have two set up, one for newly installed apps, and one for all modified data everyday around 3 am. That saved my life with all apps with up to date data when I restored them.
diablo009 said:
Thanks qkster, that's so cute
Not moving from phone to SD manually; I have to do this routinely on my touch pad cos of its low internal memory.
I was looking for a means of forcing an app to install to internal memory as a default. Even as we speak, with about 62 apps installed, I still have about 1.4 GB internal memory free (as per TiBu). I would prefer an app to go there, than to external SD.
By the way, it helps to have TiBu auto backup apps every day. I have two set up, one for newly installed apps, and one for all modified data everyday around 3 am. That saved my life with all apps with up to date data when I restored them.
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I knew there was a catch.
Did you look at es task manager on market?
qkster said:
I knew there was a catch.
Did you look at es task manager on market?
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Looking at it now
My interesting observation over the last few days:
Since moving all my apps to internal memory, for some reason, even with a lot of apps in memory, I still have about 150 MB free 90% of the time.
Earlier it used to fall to 80 too.
Phone is snappy, so not sure how this is happening. And since Infuse has loads of internal memory (mine has atleast 1.3 GB free), I think it might be better off moving apps to internal memory.
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[Q] Where Is My Internal Storage?

Hi all,
I am using a stock ROM on my Inspire 4G. For some time now, I have been getting this message: "Low on space: Phone storage space is getting low." I do have a lot of apps installed, but I have moved every movable app larger than 1MB onto my SD card, and I have continued to get the message. Today I reached the point where I cannot even upgrade an app. I am showing 70.34MB of available space.
I have searched Market for something that would tell me what's using all my storage, but everything I found is limited to external/SD card storage. Can anyone tell me what else I can do to most effectively recover some storage? What are the most likely culprits?
Thanks!
search the android market. Diskview.
not much else you can do without root access to that partition
I could be very wrong on this, but from what I understand the internal storage is partitioned in a way that most of it is not usable for general use. I have rooted my phone and switched rooms and I still only have a little over a gig of memory on my phone for apps and such
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Barkt said:
I could be very wrong on this, but from what I understand the internal storage is partitioned in a way that most of it is not usable for general use. I have rooted my phone and switched rooms and I still only have a little over a gig of memory on my phone for apps and such
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4gb internal storage on specs and around 1gb is 'usable'.
However, OP's issue is that he's out of internal storage space. I do know that there have been issues with other devices where moving apps to sdcard still left a copy on the internal storage.
OP: Might consider doing a bit of data cleaning rather than app moving.
Even when you move apps to the SD card, it still leaves a little bit of the app in internal. So if you really have a lot of apps, you're going to have to remove something. Unless there is something else wrong. I have around 150 apps installed, with everything that can be put on SD put there, and I have around 650MB still available.
Thanks, everyone, for your replies. I've been really slow getting back to this because I've had other issues I've had to deal with. I did move absolutely every movable app onto the SD card, but it didn't help.
Wolamok, I had assumed I would have to remove some data, but what? I had about 2300 contacts, many of which were duplicates. While I was cleaning them up in Outlook, I decided to delete them ALL from my phone to see what memory I could free up.. A few contacts were repopulated from social media, but only 60 or 70. However, I 'me still out of of memory and getting notifications, and I still can't so much as upgrade an app.
I feel really stupid, because on my Pocket PCs and Windows Mobile devices, I knew exactly where to look for data and what to remove, but I feel totally lost here.
I don't even know which apps to uninstall, because I don't know which ones have left pieces around in internal memory and how much.
Any more ideas, anyone?
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I forgot to mention that while I appreciated the Diskview suggestion, I can't get it to run. I don't know if you my memory is too low to even do that, but it says it's analyzing the SD card and never finishes.
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MagicSpeller said:
I don't even know which apps to uninstall, because I don't know which ones have left pieces around in internal memory and how much.
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Whenever you uninstall an app, be sure to clear cache and data for it first. And force stop it if that option isn't grayed out. Then there shouldn't be any remnants of it.
When you go into manage applications, you should be able to get an idea of where the most storage is being used. The amount that is listed for each app is only internal storage if you're on the "downloaded" or "all" tabs. So even if an app is on the SD card, what's listed is how much internal storage it is using.
Bottom line is, if you're hurting for storage, uninstall anything you don't really use. Even all those free Amazon games. You can always reinstall them in the future. Hope that helps to give you an idea of what's hogging storage.
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Whenever you uninstall an app, be sure to clear cache and data for it first. And force stop it if that option isn't grayed out. Then there shouldn't be any remnants of it.
When you go into manage applications, you should be able to get an idea of where the most storage is being used. The amount that is listed for each app is only internal storage if you're on the "downloaded" or "all" tabs. So even if an app is on the SD card, what's listed is how much internal storage it is using.
Bottom line is, if you're hurting for storage, uninstall anything you don't really use. Even all those free Amazon games. You can always reinstall them in the future. Hope that helps to give you an idea of what's hogging storage.
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Thanks a lot for the reply. By the time I saw it, I had already gotten so frustrated I had followed you advice in advance. I deleted all the apps I'd installed and was going to try out "some day"--and yes, that included all the free Amazon games I'd never played!
I was surprised to see how much space was being used by apps that supposedly were on the SD card.
I hadn't thought of clearing cache and data, and I guess I'm too late for that now, but I'll definitely keep that in mind for the future.
Thanks again!

"Low on space" when very few apps are installed

Hey I'm currently using a HTC HD2 with Android 2.2 and having issues with storage.
I remember when I first received this phone, I downloaded multiple apps/games and there was enough space for all of them. However after few months of use I was hit with the "Low On Space" notification. So I deleted apps that I wasn't using and fewed a few on SD card. A few more months now and I realise I have no games on my phone and every app that I need is on SD card, yet I'm still given the "Low On Space." Could anyone explain what is happening?
I've read a few other posts and googled but I'm so confused in what they mean. Some suggest moving caches and others tell me to try another ROM. Absolutely no clue what they mean :S
Thanks.
First of all, wipe all caches. Do this by downloading any cache cleaner application and using its primary function.
Also, I once got an extra 30mb of space by using root explorer, going into /data/ and looking around for useless files and deleting them
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Hey thx for the reply, I downloaded app cache cleaner and cleared about 11mb which is very helpful. Also I use OI file manager and browsed into data, but nothing is there (or perhaps its hidden not sure). Thx for the tip thou
No problem
Another tip is to delete your browser history (if you don't really care about it), for me it takes up a lot of space
Deleting old sms and mms messages, clearing call log help as well.
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Link2SD
If you have root, you can moove every app on SD-card. Download Link2SD, create 2nd partition on SD (i have 300MB FAT32) card and enjoy the space. Evenif you change rom, you can link apps what you have on SD

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