Hey guys, this is my first post on the forum.
I checked some other threads to make sure they don't have the exact criteria that i'm posting and
couldn't find anything, so to the mods, i'm sorry if this has already been discussed.
Please notify me and I will re-route to the correct thread.
I've had an htc aria(liberty, gratia) for the past two years and I rooted it and flashed cyanogenmod but that was the extent of my knowledge.
I've now switched carriers to Sprint and am running a MotoPhoton Q 4g Lte(rooted and custom recovery).
The reason for this post is I've noticed what seems to be a general lack of developers for this device (partially because the stock rom is very efficient), but I would like to start contributing.
I've got plenty of free time and would consider myself generally competent, and i've browsed the android developer's site for app building.
The question I present to the community (particularly developers) is how did you learn the system and get to where you are? What tools did you find easiest to use that also helped you learn the essentials? I would particularly like to develop roms and platforms, but would it be best to start with apps?
I hope my questions were clear and correctly placed, thanks in advance for any replies!
EDIT: this should be in Q&A
Moved. At least you realised where it should be so happy to help
Thanks
AvRS
Google has a nice training center for sdk & dev, might be a good starting point.
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Any links?
I might want to check this out in my spare time aswell.
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Any links?
I might want to check this out in my spare time aswell.
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http://developer.android.com/training/index.html
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We need a Rom sub forum under samsung captivate so all the roms are in one places and not all mixed up under development.
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We need a Rom sub forum under samsung captivate so all the roms are in one places and not all mixed up under development.
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Wouldn't they still need to be in the development forum..since most are a works in progress ? I could see having a sticky with links and screen shots of them but they would have to be locked down otherwise they would get cluttered up with all of the questions being asked about them..
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yes locked down or something cause they are freaking cluttered now.
I'll bump it now. Guy tried to put together a sticky like this, but never got stickied.
Well can't find it now.
Nvm got it
From a phone on an app
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yes locked down or something cause they are freaking cluttered now.
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I had a professor once that told me "clutter is a sign of brilliance". So finding anything in the dev forum would make you a Mensa candidate.
Swyping...please read slowly!
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yes locked down or something cause they are freaking cluttered now.
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But where would the feedback go though... and all those "how do i turn on my phone so i can install this rom" questions?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835928
im trying to gather resources to make a website devoted to presenting ROM's in a easy to use way. check it out. thanks
so ive been pondering on this all day and this is my conclusion:
how about the development section actually being a developement section, and all "what modem should i use?" or "will this work the the i900 kernal?" or the "when is the updated version coming out?" could go in the q&a section where they belong, what we need are more mods that are a little more active in moving threads and deleting unnecessary posts out of the development section, can you imaging how much more smooth our devs could work if they didnt have to sort through 20 posts to find one that might help them with the actually development.
oh and one more thing, that captivate bible thing, that was an excellent idea, would have done a lot of great things and helped many people, but no one goes through and updates it, what a waste :/
I found this a while back. I found out quite a-bit about our phones from it...Seems to me since this is already up and running..maybe the owner wouldn't mind adding a section for custom Roms and maybe the themes as well ? Wouldn't hurt to ask them anyway..I did just a few minutes ago
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The easiest way is to look for the threads Labled {Rom}? This has been brought up over and over again. It tried a few times but never went anywhere as most at to busy to keep the roms on more then one website. As for the questions being asked they belong in the thread for the rom they use and not in Q&A.
I think he was talking about all the other questions in the development section. What Im talking about is something like just roms in a section, if u want to ask questions or talk about rom fine but be only under that rom thread, U would have a Section Clean of all kinds of post and other development stuff, Have a certain format for titles in the rom section, where it would be uniform. I know there still under development but it would be clean, and easy to find.
I like this idea. It should be formatted sort of like DG's thread. All questions goes on that thread for development and on the first page the links would point to the ROM section where people can download the roms they need look at screen shots.
I have been looking around, trying to get a general idea on how to get started in the wonderful world of Android ROM development.
It seems that information is spread out amongst different sources, and that there isn't really anywhere that has all of this information together (to my knowledge at least).
I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction, and or assist me in any way. It would be much appreciated! ^.^
I have been following stuff here on XDA for a while, and just finally decided to make an account. So, I apologize if this is posted under the wrong section, and/or this question has been asked a million times before. I know how annoying that can be. I searched around before I made this post, so I don't believe I am re asking a common question, unless of course I missed something.
Thank you all!
Here are couple of sources
I think these might help get you started.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1272270
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1446233&page=29
Is this what you were looking for?
I have also been looking to this so I hope someone can help thank you for the links already :-
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Those Links are exactly what I was looking for, thank you!
Anyway, I'm glad you've found that, but notice that on future you'll have to make some research to look what you've benn looking for, about certain things at least... you can found tweaks and "how to" on devs general section, but you can also find some in device's forums... there's no one section in wich you'll find all you need while working on a ROM
I help A LOT of people here on xda all day everyday some donate some don't. its very hard to help people on xda cus when helping them other people jump in and start either telling the person im helping don't do that do this or they just plain old spam. i have helped a very large amount of people on g talk and they have told me they like to be helped MORE on g talk than on xda because we have 100% full privacy to do what we need to do. please choose how you like to be helped Either xda or PM or g talk. at the end of the week ill count all of them up and from the results i will help people based on the results on this thanks very much.
To put the poll into better context I believe that you should also read this thread Although I've quoted the relevant posts below:
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Hello, Paul,
Firstly, thanks (again) for your input into the forum. I'm genuinely not intending to create conflict here or trying to play the role of a mod. Now, I know that you've had this sort of comment before, but, I agreed with it then and I'm afraid that I still do.
While at times the PM route can be useful to resolve issues, it shouldn't be the only or primary option. The whole principle of XDA is openness and sharing, so resolving an issue in thread permits that the next user(s) (and there is always another, who suffers from the exact same problem) from hopefully using the Search function and then following the resolution from the thread by themselves.
That way we're working towards creating a valuable resource rather than loosing useful input into hidden PMs.
PM's do have there place for 'user to user' communication, that would otherwise populate the forum unnecessarily but once a thread has been created I believe that it should be used to reolve the original issue.
If a new user needs that much hand holding then one wonders whether they should be risking their £200-£400 device in the first place! before reading up some more....
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me helping people over PM is better because its faster and more safer for the person im helping. if im trying to guide him then other people jump in and comment he isnt going to know who to listen to and he will get very confused. this has happend before. by helping over PM or my gmail is better for them, and me. and i ALWAYS ask them after to write a guide as to how i helped them and what they did. i at NO point mean to upset anyone. but you have got to understand that this is the only way that i can help these people as you may well know here on xda people have got there opinions and they like to jump in whenever they want. if i tell him to do somthing some1 might jump in and say no or do this and do that. i have had EVERYONE i have helped say thanks to me and its better this way. i have helped MANY people achieve proper s-off. i will no open a poll. and it will ask the people of xda if they would prefer to be helped via PM or Gtalk or on here. if more people prefer xda then i will start helping via xda
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As someone whom Paul has helped through gtalk, It was very beneficial to me as we were able to quickly and easily communicate, as any other method is rather slow and crude. I definitely do agree with your point on xda being a repository for information however, therefore communicating through gtalk or similar could withhold information from other users. However I have now written up a short guide of what I did to solve my problem on the original thread, and I believe that if people do this then everyone wins tbh, and it has the added advantage of the treads being shorter and more concise, therefore it is easier to find the relevant information.
As someone who has done all his stiff by reading through threads and others opinions, I will always advocate all discussions on XDA
Sent from a Desire S waiting for Kernel 3. WAKE UP HTC!!!!
On the 16th the poll will close and whatever the winning method is thats the way i will help people from now on. i do wish ALL people will take something out of the way i help them. as me getting them properly s-off uses alot of things like commands running adb , fastboot and so on. by helping them do these things it then in turn helps them. as if i didnt help them and they needed to to adb or fastboot commands and they never knew howto that could result in a not needed thread being opened **How to use adb or fastboot** this is a good way for me to help these people. i think people should help people the way they do and let other people carry on with the ways they do things. ( no offence meant ben your opinion means alot to me your a good person ) but if it states in the rules ( only help people on xda ) then i will stop if it dont then i will carry on as im not doing anything wrong. and even so if you guys think your losing out on infomation. i will open up a guide covering absolutly EVERYTHING on the desire s from fastboot adb changing roms,splash,radio,hboot and covering everything on what the desire s is capable of doing. what limits it has and other things. this in a sense will be the desire s XDA user guide let me know if u think thats a good isea ben. and as i go along anything i help people out with thats not in the new guide ill just update it ????????????
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( no offence meant ben
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do u think that the thread idea's a go ?
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do u think that the thread idea's a go ?
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I do but there are already several threads like this, so one must be careful not to pollute the forum with too many similar guides which would just lead to further confusion.
There is the Complete Tutorial for beginners and others, but I'm guessing yours would be a more technical and slightly more advanced version?
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There is the Complete Tutorial for beginners and others, but I'm guessing yours would be a more technical and slightly more advanced version?
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yes ur right mine would cover EVERYTHING that is possible with our device. from s-off to installing app's and even radio flashing fastboot adb the lot. EVERYTHING will be in sections. with sections about all developers themers contributors. what projects that are currently under development and it can also act like a news forum. like if you want to know whats happening in the most recent roms go to this thread and find your rom and you will be able to keep upto date with whats going on. this will be called DESIRE S ADVANCED USER THREAD. this will house everything for our device. from what roms are currently avalible and everything. im going to start this thread now i think this thread when its done will be the best thread about our device on xda
if u look the thread u linked above Last edited by nodeffect; 27th February 2012 at 03:00 PM. Reason: Updates . this is not regularly updated. mine will be updated EVERYDAY
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yes ur right mine would cover EVERYTHING that is possible with our device. from s-off to installing app's and even radio flashing fastboot adb the lot. EVERYTHING will be in sections. with sections about all developers themers contributors. what projects that are currently under development and it can also act like a news forum. like if you want to know whats happening in the most recent roms go to this thread and find your rom and you will be able to keep upto date with whats going on. this will be called DESIRE S ADVANCED USER THREAD. this will house everything for our device. from what roms are currently avalible and everything. im going to start this thread now i think this thread when its done will be the best thread about our device on xda
if u look the thread u linked above Last edited by nodeffect; 27th February 2012 at 03:00 PM. Reason: Updates . this is not regularly updated. mine will be updated EVERYDAY
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The one thing I would say though, is rather than re-invent not just the wheel but the car, I'd recommend that you source, link and reference as much of the existing documentation where ever possible.
paul.robo said:
yes ur right mine would cover EVERYTHING that is possible with our device. from s-off to installing app's and even radio flashing fastboot adb the lot. EVERYTHING will be in sections. with sections about all developers themers contributors. what projects that are currently under development and it can also act like a news forum. like if you want to know whats happening in the most recent roms go to this thread and find your rom and you will be able to keep upto date with whats going on. this will be called DESIRE S ADVANCED USER THREAD. this will house everything for our device. from what roms are currently avalible and everything. im going to start this thread now i think this thread when its done will be the best thread about our device on xda
if u look the thread u linked above Last edited by nodeffect; 27th February 2012 at 03:00 PM. Reason: Updates . this is not regularly updated. mine will be updated EVERYDAY
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Guides done i have posted it now and ill carry it on as i go along
hey guys, Would just like to add to this After searching throughout the forum day and night i got what information i needed to root and s-off my desire s. After following all the instructions letter by letter i was still have errors and problem after problem. paul.robo kindly asked me if i wanted his help and i accepted using Gtalk. I can not begin to express at how helpful he was and was there to guide me through each error. After a good few steps i finally got to where i wanted to be. In no way was i able to find out why i was having these errors if he weren't there to check them as it was happening. To go through this in forum style replys would take days and to much work. Gtalk is a brilliant and direct help for occasions like these and would recommend his help and wisdom to all. Thanks again mate Much appreciated
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hey guys, Would just like to add to this After searching throughout the forum day and night i got what information i needed to root and s-off my desire s. After following all the instructions letter by letter i was still have errors and problem after problem. paul.robo kindly asked me if i wanted his help and i accepted using Gtalk. I can not begin to express at how helpful he was and was there to guide me through each error. After a good few steps i finally got to where i wanted to be. In no way was i able to find out why i was having these errors if he weren't there to check them as it was happening. To go through this in forum style replys would take days and to much work. Gtalk is a brilliant and direct help for occasions like these and would recommend his help and wisdom to all. Thanks again mate Much appreciated
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No problem mate I'm here to help all who need me
I just got a SGH-T959V 4 days ago, and since then, I rooted, unlocked (carrier locked to T-Mobile of course) so I can use it on my carrier, flashed the sms-T959V-KJ6-v0.1.0-unsigned-update.zip kernel, and just finished flashing VB onto it. All thanks to the wealth of knowledge available here on the xda forums. I've read countless threads, and posts from knowledgeable members and developers regarding any possible problems, forms of recovery from everything from bricks to cache and even EFS/IMEI related issues. I just wanted to take this time to introduce myself to the forums formally, and to thank everyone's efforts in bringing out the potential in not only this device, but all devices included on the forums. I am grateful that we have such a community with so much assistance and feedback available.
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I just got a SGH-T959V 4 days ago, and since then, I rooted, unlocked (carrier locked to T-Mobile of course) so I can use it on my carrier, flashed the sms-T959V-KJ6-v0.1.0-unsigned-update.zip kernel, and just finished flashing VB onto it. All thanks to the wealth of knowledge available here on the xda forums. I've read countless threads, and posts from knowledgeable members and developers regarding any possible problems, forms of recovery from everything from bricks to cache and even EFS/IMEI related issues. I just wanted to take this time to introduce myself to the forums formally, and to thank everyone's efforts in bringing out the potential in not only this device, but all devices included on the forums. I am grateful that we have such a community with so much assistance and feedback available.
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Welcome to the forums man. Glad you didn't go all noob and ask questions everywhere. You are one of the many few who actually have common sense, we're glad to have another fellow user
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Welcome to the forums man. Glad you didn't go all noob and ask questions everywhere. You are one of the many few who actually have common sense, we're glad to have another fellow user
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I am glad to be here. As someone who has been in IT for a while now, I understand how frustrating it can be to explain the same process over and over. I just wanted to make sure that I was properly educated on the device, the roms, kernels, modems, and troubleshooting. I always prefer to try and figure it out on my own. I like to think I learn more that way :laugh:. Plus it prevents me from adding unnecessary posts to the forums that bog down important threads in Q&A, Dev, and generally annoy the people who spend countless hours bringing the releases to us.
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I am glad to be here. As someone who has been in IT for a while now, I understand how frustrating it can be to explain the same process over and over. I just wanted to make sure that I was properly educated on the device, the roms, kernels, modems, and troubleshooting. I always prefer to try and figure it out on my own. I like to think I learn more that way :laugh:. Plus it prevents me from adding unnecessary posts to the forums that bog down important threads in Q&A, Dev, and generally annoy the people who spend countless hours bringing the releases to us.
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Glad you have that mentality, we need more users like you. That would definetely help with all the headaches we've been receiving lately lol. Anyways, if you ever need help with anything, shoot me a PM. I usually respond quickly to PM's since I have them pushed to my email. Have fun surfing the forums!
Welcome!
Welcome Bro! enjoy your stay!! :laugh:
Does switching to custom ROM worth it ? If so what are the best custom rom?
Zhing xina said:
Does switching to custom ROM worth it ? If so what are the best custom rom?
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This thread is only for development. Ask your question in the Q&A thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/oneplus-8t-questions-answers.11583/
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This thread is only for development. Ask your question in the Q&A thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/oneplus-8t-questions-answers.11583/
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Ok thank am new here
Zhing xina said:
Ok thank am new here
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It's also a good idea to a read the forum rules https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/forum-rules.4200559/
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Zhing xina said:
Does switching to custom ROM worth it ? If so what are the best custom rom?
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To get to your original question: that really depends on your needs. For some reliant on specific applications (banking/government/work apps) custom ROMs or even unlocking the bootloader are in some cases (not all!) a no-go. In the development section you've undoubtedly seen an overwhelming amount of selections to choose from. I usually browse the ones on top as those still have an active userbase going on. If the OP (Original Poster) is still part of the conversation, that's a major plus! Then I first read the first post (also called OP - Original Post) of the ones that seem interesting. As you'll get more acquainted with ROM development groups, you'll develop a personal preference towards some of them. My personal preference used to be Resurrection Remix; I really loved that scene. But for aforementioned reason I'm sticking with stock (and some Magisk module tweaking) for now. It's imperative to read the last few pages of a ROM thread, like this you may detect if there are any ongoing known problems (3rd party camera apps not working, quirky bluetooth, FP reader broken, etc.). Time is key here. Taking some time to delve into the topic can avoid a lot of frustrations. I suggest at least a few hours of research before making the jump. Good luck on your ROM quest!