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Why are themes mixed with applications? It's a mess...
Why can't there be one section for themes and other for applications?
I won't say it a mess but Yes, that would be better...
Agreed. There is too much stuff going on with HD2 now, and the biggest problem is the new things fall back and many of the users even don't see the new posts.
I agree.
I´ve been here since Kaiser forum was the "hottest" thing on XDA, but even that is nothing in comparison of the "hottness" of Leo's forum.
Sometimes good things almost get lost with all those topics popping out during the day.
So far, i thank RSS, but separated Apps and Themes fora would be nice.
+1 too Apps & Themes should be separated for easier view or search.
I think thats a great idea
People will still ignore the forum titles and start threads where they want to.
Take this one, for example. It should not be in the themes and apps forum of the HD2 as it has diddly-squat to do with either the HD2, themes or apps.
There is a forum for this type of conversation.
Like I said - people will post where they want. You'll just get used to it.
Saying that, you could then have a forum just for tweaks...
The idea is good.... But Johncmolineux is right, it will change nothing....
Xda is like Ali Baba's cave... It's a big mess, but a mess I finally like. At the end I always find what I'm looking for.
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People will still ignore the forum titles and start threads where they want to.
Take this one, for example. It should not be in the themes and apps forum of the HD2 as it has diddly-squat to do with either the HD2, themes or apps.
There is a forum for this type of conversation.
Like I said - people will post where they want. You'll just get used to it.
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I've tried to find a place to post this and did not succeed. And if this is about this section, it's not that wrong to be here. But I've posted here not because I simple want but because I did not find a suggestions section. An Apps and a Thread sections inside the HD2 section of XDA will be very easy to find.
By that way of thinking we should not have 4 HD2 sections, we should only have one... since people make mistakes in where to post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=263
That's ridiculously easy to find. You just look.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=263
That's ridiculously easy to find. You just look.
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Yeah, I've seen that. But wasn't sure if it was for suggestions about the forum. And then, if I post there probably most of the users of the HD2 sections will not see it.
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Yeah, I've seen that. But wasn't sure if it was for suggestions about the forum. And then, if I post there probably most of the users of the HD2 sections will not see it.
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Surely you're making a suggestion about the site, not the HD2, which is why you should post it in a forum that is for the site. That's all.
There's actually a thread in that forum for suggestions for the mods. That's the best place to ask a question that relates to the site.
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Surely you're making a suggestion about the site, not the HD2, which is why you should post it in a forum that is for the site. That's all.
There's actually a thread in that forum for suggestions for the mods. That's the best place to ask a question that relates to the site.
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Can anyone move this to there then?
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People will still ignore the forum titles and start threads where they want to.
Take this one, for example. It should not be in the themes and apps forum of the HD2 as it has diddly-squat to do with either the HD2, themes or apps.
There is a forum for this type of conversation.
Like I said - people will post where they want. You'll just get used to it.
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I disagree, John.
Of course you're correct in as much as SOME people (particularly people new to the site) will always start threads where they want to. But I would say that MOST people (particularly experienced posters) stick to the rules regarding posting new threads in the correct section and those who don't quickly have the errors of their ways pointed out to them!
I also disagree that this particular thread is 'out on place' in the Themes and Apps section. The OP wanted to gauge feeling amongst current users of this section as to his suggestion of splitting the section into two. Who's going to see it if it's hidden away somewhere else on the forum?
Just my thoughts... No criticism of others' opinion meant...
Btw... I would also be in favour of a split.
I would like to see this happen too, but im sure it would be hassell for anybody that needs to get it uptodate/tidy!
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I would like to see this happen too, but im sure it would be hassell for anybody that needs to get it uptodate/tidy!
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Yes it would need some hard work... But we could keep this actual sections as the themes section for example, and then the users would report the threads that needed to be moved, that way the moderators won't need to be checking all threads...
What about having actual MODERATORS on this forum??? Cause all those topics that are made dubble and dubble each and every single day are driving everybody crazy I know that for sure!! I scroll down through one page on the forum in 1 minut cause of all the same things I am reading over and over again!
Why isn't the policy here actually being applied??? Why aren't the moderators HARSHER?? (if there are moderators cause I only have seen one here on the Leo's forums).....
I am sure 90% of the people here think like me, especialy when there ar epeople who only register to this forum to make a topic and ask a question and don't bother to search and when they got their answer never bother to look on tthis forum again.......
Really, the policy should be looked after and there should be at leaste 5 times more moderators than there are now!!!
We are missing the important threads through all the b*ll**** and sorry to say this but some people don't have time to spend hours a day on this forum! We have to work/study, I am sure many agree with me!
Lately I have seen so many "what rom is best for my first flash" or "Help me decide what rom is best for me" threads and they are POINTLESS! Granted there are an abundance of new and old custom roms, everyone has different experiences and opinions on what rom is best.
So... NOOBS:
If you want to know what rom is best for YOU do the following:
- Go to the Android Development Section and read through different [ROM] threads to see what features will work best for you. I have also found it useful to read through the last couple of pages to see what other users think about the current version of the rom.
- If you don't know what certain terms in the rom thread mean or affect (ie. kernel, modem, OC/UV, Gps tweaks) locate the search bar in the top right corner of the page or browse through this page
- Once you have decided what rom you want to try out, you need to learn how to flash the rom. Most of the Developers post instructions but they can be confusing to some of the less experienced flashers. nbs11 has posted a thread about how to do this here and Connexion2005 was nice enough to make videos of the general steps: Flashing back to stock using odin3 , 3 Part video series for flashing roms: video 1 , video 2 , video 3
- Now that you know how to choose and flash a rom just try out different roms until you find one that you like and gives you all the features you are looking for.
- If you find the theme of a certain rom ugly or obnoxious, head over to the Captivate themes and apps section and look through different [THEME] threads until you find one that you like. Make sure the theme is compatible with the rom you have just flashed or are planning to flash.
- If you accidentally brick your phone, read How to unbrick the captivate or if that doesn't work, Unbrick the captivate for only $0.99
-Some useful links other members have posted:
One-Click Root - root your captivate in one click!
Build #1010 or above flash back to stock
My hopes of this thread are to save the Captivate general section from becoming a section full of useless threads. So if you are new, please use these steps and do the research to find a Rom that is right for YOU!
Cheers,
Alex
Thanks, + 1 sticky
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I second that sticky request please. Great piece of work!
Eh....Ii think a lot of us are guilty of expecting too much from "noobs." I remember being new and told to scour hundreds of pages of indecipherable text. Yeah right. I just want to flash my phone! Obviously not everyone does it. I hate to say it, but the forums are not very noob friendly. I recently tried suggesting an idea about organization of themes.....but no one even replied to my idea. Last I checked (correct me if I'm wrong) but the wiki is just a link to the sub forums. Someone tried to organize Rom features....but I don't think it hasn't been updated in a while. But I haven't checked
I would still like to create an easy to browse page full of apk's. Maybe I can find some time and a place to upload.....
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Eh....Ii think a lot of us are guilty of expecting too much from "noobs." I remember being new and told to scour hundreds of pages of indecipherable text. Yeah right. I just want to flash my phone! Obviously not everyone does it. I hate to say it, but the forums are not very noob friendly. I recently tried suggesting an idea about organization of themes.....but no one even replied to my idea. Last I checked (correct me if I'm wrong) but the wiki is just a link to the sub forums. Someone tried to organize Rom features....but I don't think it hasn't been updated in a while. But I haven't checked
I would still like to create an easy to browse page full of apk's. Maybe I can find some time and a place to upload.....
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Sure we might expect too much, but I think we should at least give them some guidance to flashing new roms. Since there is so much information out there it can be quite overwhelming to newcomers, which is why I tried to summarize and compile the best information I know of here.
I think your ideas of compiling themes into a one stop shop would be awesome if you kept it updated. I personally would just start a new thread and divide it into the most popular Roms out at the time, and paste links to whichever ones worked for that rom under the heading.
Gave you a 'thanks' and, AMEN!
Stickied, thanks for your contribution
very good useful information
Would the Cognition instructions work for other roms as well? For example, Phoenix 3.5?
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Would the Cognition instructions work for other roms as well? For example, Phoenix 3.5?
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To be honest, I have never flashed cog so I am not sure. But here is what I ALWAYS do, and everything works out for the different roms i have flashed.
1. Backup Apps and App data with TiBackup (not system data!!!)
2. Put phone in download mode
3. Open odin3 on computer
4. Plug phone in to computer, wait for odin to say "added"
5. Press start and wait to see if a blue line starts to apear on the phone
6. If the blue line appears wait for odin to finish, if it does not unplug the phone and hope it has not bricked. See the bottom of the OP if your phone is bricked.
7. Once rebooted, use one click root to root phone
8. Open droid explorer and move the CWM update.zip (see attachment to this post) to your phone as well as the rom you are flashing
9. Boot into recovery and "reinstall packages" usually twice until you get into CWM recovery
10. navigate to install zip from sd > choose zip from sd > (rom zip) > yes
11. once done click go back > reboot phone
12. If it asks you to convert data and partition click the first choice, something like convert all data and files, wait for it to finish
13. enjoi!
*NOTE* this assumes you have the correct drivers installed on your computer and that you have tested to make sure they work. I am not responsible if you follow these instructions and fubar your phone.
Does this work for Canadian ROGERS devices?
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Does this work for Canadian ROGERS devices?
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I am not Canadian and haven't used a Canadian device, so I would not be able to tell you. Sorry.
It is what it is
I'm a bit torn by the thread topic, but I do understand. What lead me to this thread was the realization that I was prohibited from submitting a post on the Android Dev forum. It would have been my first post, as I had been testing and writing down the results of my experiences with flashing ROMs that are currently offered. After doing some reading, I found that a minimum of 9 posts were required before posting priviledges available for the dev forum. A little disappointed, but I could deal with that...until I read the opening of this thread. On one hand, I understand that every post has its place and in order for a forum to run smoothly, respect and etiquette is paramount. However, the tone of the post had a kinda, "don't interfere in grown folk business" feel to it; a noob-tolerance, but "stay in your place-ness" IMHO. We were all noobs at some point. Perhaps it's a little easier for some to remember than others. Like I said, I understand. Both sides (Moderators and noobs) have to put themselves in each others shoes to make it work.
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A little disappointed, but I could deal with that...until I read the opening of this thread. On one hand, I understand that every post has its place and in order for a forum to run smoothly, respect and etiquette is paramount. However, the tone of the post had a kinda, "don't interfere in grown folk business" feel to it; a noob-tolerance, but "stay in your place-ness" IMHO. We were all noobs at some point. Perhaps it's a little easier for some to remember than others. Like I said, I understand. Both sides (Moderators and noobs) have to put themselves in each others shoes to make it work.
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This thread is not discouraging noobs from posting or being a part of the forum, in fact following the guide will do the opposite by getting them involved in rom discussions with other members.
I am encouraging noobs to try things for themselves instead of relying on what other people claim to be the "best rom" for them. This was not meant to be an "elitist thread" simply because I haven't even been here that long, just trying to de-clutter the captivate general forum.
I have to throw a wrench into this system.....sorry....there seems to be a lot of complaints about posts in the wrong area. This happens A LOT. I have to take the"noob" side for a minute. Maybe instead of everyone jumping on new members, we find a better way to organize the information. Searching sucks, admit it. I know what I am looking for so I should be able to drill down through the forums to find it. I tried searching for a specific email.apk and gave up after 10 minutes of flipping through posts. There are all walks of people in the development forums. After all, that is where the good stuff is kept. So of course questions are going to be raised there. You are never going to win the war against new members not knowing the culture of this forum. Instead, let's start getting some ideas together on how we can make it more user friendly for everyone.
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I have to throw a wrench into this system.....sorry....there seems to be a lot of complaints about posts in the wrong area. This happens A LOT. I have to take the"noob" side for a minute. Maybe instead of everyone jumping on new members, we find a better way to organize the information. Searching sucks, admit it. I know what I am looking for so I should be able to drill down through the forums to find it. I tried searching for a specific email.apk and gave up after 10 minutes of flipping through posts. There are all walks of people in the development forums. After all, that is where the good stuff is kept. So of course questions are going to be raised there. You are never going to win the war against new members not knowing the culture of this forum. Instead, let's start getting some ideas together on how we can make it more user friendly for everyone.
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Ok so I have to ask, did you even read this thread?
The sole purpose of this thread was to guide new users to flashing new roms, that way they would stop making new threads in the captivate general section asking other users which rom is best.
No where did I mention anything about the development section or new members posting in the wrong section.
If you can't find things with search then try altering your search methods, ie change the "sort results by" drop down box to Relevancy. Often times I just do a google search of "xda (whatever i am looking for)" without the quotes and find what I am looking for in a matter of seconds or minutes.
If you feel like the forum is unorganized, do something about it like I did, don't just sit on your ass. Start a thread with all of the relevant .apk's you think need to be compiled while allowing other users to contribute or don't complain.
I did, but it sounds like many threads I've read in the past over and over again. I could have swore I've read this topic several times here, but perhaps I am mistaken. I follow several forums here at XDA and it is extremely possible my frustrations lie from reading this topic in multiple locations, not just within the Captivate section.
After searching around, I realize that there are not as many threads like this within the Captivate section as I had thought. My apologies for coming off wrong; however,
I do feel like some of the repositories here are disorganized, and have even tried mentioning it, but my thread got absolutely NO response, and it was in what I thought would be the correct section (asking about a list of apks in the Themes and Apps Section). Ah, oh well. Guess my fuse has been a little short recently. I wish I had more free time than just the 15 minutes here and there. I REALLY want to work on sorting the WiKi, but I'm married, so I've ALWAYS got other things to do.
Now that I feel I've completely torn the thread off topic, I'm going back to work
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This thread is not discouraging noobs from posting or being a part of the forum, in fact following the guide will do the opposite by getting them involved in rom discussions with other members.
I am encouraging noobs to try things for themselves instead of relying on what other people claim to be the "best rom" for them. This was not meant to be an "elitist thread" simply because I haven't even been here that long, just trying to de-clutter the captivate general forum.
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Thanks for the response. Didn't mean to be overly critical of the thread. Simply wanted to express how both sides of the argument can be seen as valid and relevant. I've seen harsh criticisms from seasoned contributors as well as inconsiderate inquiries from new posters that indicate no effort to find an answer prior to posting. No offense intented and thanks for your contribution to the community.
Maybe you can change the thread topic to sound a little less hostile towards new members. New xda users read this first or New posters or anything but "n00bs"
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Maybe you can change the thread topic to sound a little less hostile towards new members. New xda users read this first or New posters or anything but "n00bs"
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Edited title.
Seriously, can we clean this **** up?
Guides/How to's: fine
Roms: dumb
Good Luck.
You want to volunteer?
While Venelar lacks tact, I do kinda agree.
Why are roms stickied in this subforum? This isn't behavior I see in other subforums.
If I'm browsing on my gtablet, it requires scrolling through a couple screens of things that haven't been updated in a while to get to a lot of the new posts.
Would people want a stickied thread that has links to all the roms and kernels currently in development? I'd probably be willing to help with that.
I moderate elsewhere, wouldn't be a big deal imo. Anyway, lack of tact aside it is out of control in this section of the board. I've seen complaints on a few threads about it and when the preferred method of viewing this particular forum is through the "buggy at best" xda app (so that stickies are on another tab) from the tablet i think that says a lot.
some guide consolidation/and unsticking rom threads would work wonders to spruce the place up a bit.
You might want to take it up with TheImpaler747. Wouldn't this be something for the moderators to iron out?
Not trying to be aloof - I actually agree with you and had asked for the same, about 2 weeks back.
Maybe guides and how-to's can get their own sub-forum. We have many stickied guids/how-tos/faqs in the g-tab general, and now there is the new gTab q+a.
Maybe put all guides/how-tos/faqs/things that are sticky in their own sub-forum (aka gTab info) and then have q+a, development, and app talk. Seems like that would cover the breakdown of topics a little better.
Also, seriously, who sends a complaint about the number of stickies. Weak.
Development is where Roms belong not pissing and moaning about stickied threads.
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Development is where Roms belong not pissing and moaning about stickied threads.
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Agreed. And posting this thread in the very forum you're complaining about doesn't help matters - it just perpetuates it.
This process of stickying threads that are tried and true and helpful, etc. is followed in many other forums.
As to guides/how-tos... DEFINITE good idea. Just need someone to do it instead of us mods who are swamped as it is.
Thanks.
I think the links should stay about the same if you move everything though, so that's good, lol.
I volunteer myself jerdog
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Development is where Roms belong not pissing and moaning about stickied threads.
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Look at your post count, 666
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Maybe guides and how-to's can get their own sub-forum. We have many stickied guids/how-tos/faqs in the g-tab general, and now there is the new gTab q+a.
Maybe put all guides/how-tos/faqs/things that are sticky in their own sub-forum (aka gTab info) and then have q+a, development, and app talk. Seems like that would cover the breakdown of topics a little better.
Also, seriously, who sends a complaint about the number of stickies. Weak.
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The how-to's would be great in the "Q&A" forum so people can read those first in hopes they'll read them and possibly get their question answered before posting another thread.
Why not create an all encompassing "G-Tablet Bible" Thread that includes links to how-to's, roms, guides, and other helpful info. Lots of forums implement this method of organization. If the EVO forum can stay clean, this should be able to as well.
Seems like you already have a couple of volunteers that would do it, now it's just a matter of making it, getting it stickied, and erasing the other stickies.
I thought the development sub forum was where developers gathered to exchange hacks and fixes for ROMs. I would of though ROMs ready for play would have their own sub thread... I had requested this as well a week or so back. It is a bit messy. I dont see any reason to bash a guy who is asking for something that would benefit everyone. If we cant play nice together in the benefit of making a better G Tab then i suggest we all return them! It aint a good product without the support of a good community. Just my 2 cents.
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Seriously, can we clean this **** up?
Guides/How to's: fine
Roms: dumb
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I couldn't agree more.
MechAniX.one said:
I thought the development sub forum was where developers gathered to exchange hacks and fixes for ROMs. I would of though ROMs ready for play would have their own sub thread... I had requested this as well a week or so back. It is a bit messy. I dont see any reason to bash a guy who is asking for something that would benefit everyone. If we cant play nice together in the benefit of making a better G Tab then i suggest we all return them! It aint a good product without the support of a good community. Just my 2 cents.
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Very wise words....
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You want to volunteer?
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Yes I do! lol
I started a thread over in the development section with a listing of most of the ROMS and Kernels that were stickied and plan on finishing it after I get home from work. Hopefully this will help in the organization of forums as I couldn't agree more on how unorganized it looks with so many stickies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12731572
TheImpaler747 got back with me and said he'd look into it as well.
/piss and moan paying off it seems.
Edit: thanks to asdr for helping with that thread!
Sent from my Nexus One
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1026660
Thanks thejesus for already doing this.
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TheImpaler747 got back with me and said he'd look into it as well.
/piss and moan paying off it seems.
Edit: thanks to asdr for helping with that thread!
Sent from my Nexus One
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been working on this for awhile and looking at different ways to sort stuff. Look for some new changes coming....
Suggestion Thread
Thought it was about time we had a thread that you can make suggestions on how to improve the Droid forums or anything you feel needs changing in the Forums.
And Please no Stupid or Imposable suggestions
Thanks Guys
Lufc
Oh. BTW, Can you sticky the IRC Chat thread and the EE4 How To Root thread. Meant to mention that in my letter and forgot.
Ok people Lets break this down. LUFC has no power to change the site, how it works, the search engines, the way it looks, the name of it, etc etc. He can however, lock, unlock threads. Move threads. Change other's post to remove profanity, sexual content, derogatory statements ....... He can also ban and unban people from the Droid Charge forum. If you have any other questions, Let me know. I'll get with him offline. He has 4 forums to Mod and doesn't need to be bombarded with stuff like, "Can you Change my siggy size?" No he cannot. So don't ask for stuff that changes XDA website as a whole. If it does not pertain to the Droid Charge forum, or if you are questionable if its a question for LUFC. ASK ME FIRST. I'm very easy person to get along with and always willing to help.
I agree w/ Dragonstalker. we need more stickys. the basics, like booting to recovery, using odin, cwm etc. things that appear in too many threads.
I agree more stickies, a lot of import things that have been explained get pushed to the bottom and then people ask again.
Also, I do not know if you have the authority to do that but make a roms section. Keep Dev for fixes and tweaks. If that can be done i'd say a help section too. I do suspect you can't and it is admin set. I say this because if it's something enough people want in this forum then we can contact the admin
other than that keep up the good work mod
Here are my requests that I've felt are really needed.
Unlock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122657
That is hands down the best and easiest guide to follow and without it I would not have been able to root/ROM/lagfix my Charge, there was really no need for it to be locked in the first place.
Sticky: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144885
Awesome mod, haven't encountered any problems with it at all. Just a simple reboot into CWM and install .zip from SD card and it's finished!
Thanks for the suggestions and the impossable ones
Just one point on the stickys if we stuck everything that was of importance we would have the first page full of stickys so what we do is to have a Roll up Sticky Thread and this has been kindly done by nitsuj17 HERE
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and because all the info is in that page and a link to them it should be your first point of call if you need something.
But if you do see anything that needs adding to the roll up thread then please do get in contact.
And just to Answer knyghtryda Question he Suggested the Mod for the camera shutter to be a sticky but as you can see in the Roll Up Thred it was already stuck but thanks for the suggestion knyghtryda
And scarygood536 suggested A separate area for ROMS but XDA will not allow this but the roll up thread is broken down into sections and all the roms are listed in once place thanks scarygood536
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I am kinda new here, but it took me awhile to figure out what nitsuji's sticky was all about. It would be good to maby change the title a little to say that it contains "how too's" in it so the newbies like myself can go there first to find answers! just a thought!
P.s. I love this site!
Still going to request that the linked thread gets an unlock :] There was really no need for it to be locked in the first place.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122657
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Still going to request that the linked thread gets an unlock :] There was really no need for it to be locked in the first place.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122657
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It's Locked because the instructions are already there. The only thing the post by others have done in that thread is cause confusion to those that are new and take away from the OP.
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Thanks for the suggestions and the impossable ones
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I think we need automated spell checking... haha j/k.
It would be nice to sticky a request thread or something of that nature. If there even is one. That way some people can put in there input about stuff to add to roms and other tweaks that developers could try and work on. I think this would be a lot easier than having a hundred random threads with requests on them.
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It would be nice to sticky a request thread or something of that nature. If there even is one. That way some people can put in there input about stuff to add to roms and other tweaks that developers could try and work on. I think this would be a lot easier than having a hundred random threads with requests on them.
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Or you could just make your suggestions on the ROM's thread. After all, that is what the threads for each individual rom is for
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Or you could just make your suggestions on the ROM's thread. After all, that is what the threads for each individual rom is for
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I meant for more general stuff that will work with all roms and not just one specific rom. As in if no one made the camera app where you could take a picture with the power button some one could have put in the request in this thread.
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I meant for more general stuff that will work with all roms and not just one specific rom. As in if no one made the camera app where you could take a picture with the power button some one could have put in the request in this thread.
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PM me more specific about your ideal and i'll work on it.
Any chance on a FAQ subsection in the Development section? Might make it a little more clear as to where questions go. I see them posted in Development all the time
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Any chance on a FAQ subsection in the Development section? Might make it a little more clear as to where questions go. I see them posted in Development all the time
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Not really much you can put in the dev section as far as FAQ's. Dev section is only for devs. If people are posting questions in there, which i can't do anything about. Its just because they are not looking in the General section and reading welcome message.
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Not really much you can put in the dev section as far as FAQ's. Dev section is only for devs. If people are posting questions in there, which i can't do anything about. Its just because they are not looking in the General section and reading welcome message.
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Oh ok. I just figured if there was a section titled FAQ or Questions it might help
Requesting a sticky on; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186798
I understand you don't want to clutter the front page but that's a nice collection of all the dialer codes confirmed to work for the Charge. Really useful, IMO.
blarrick said:
Requesting a sticky on; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186798
I understand you don't want to clutter the front page but that's a nice collection of all the dialer codes confirmed to work for the Charge. Really useful, IMO.
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Added it to the roll up sticky thread
Thanks for the suggestion
I sent a pm to one of our mods asking if we can get the sticky threads cleaned up. By this I mean unsticky some of the ones that are outdated and no longer maintained by current users of this device.
Im basing this on my own ideas and this post by FB.
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Solrac, it might be better if you would concentrate your efforts on updating our wiki since some information has already been repeated a few times, particularly the roms list. If you wind up putting them in the wiki then other users can edit it once you decide to not update this thread. I've seen it happen to at least two other threads already which is why team acid have moved some of our instructions to the wiki.
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We have so much stuff stickied in the general sub that is out of date. In the development sub there is a couple threads that are no longer maintained.
My question is do you agree we need some of these threads removed from the list of stickies? Ill have a poll please select agree or disagree. If you want to post a response please do, but lets keep this civil aight?
Eollie, I agree that the stickies are cluttered. We don't even use a lot of them anymore.
I still say that we should move toward using only the wiki for guides to avoid this in the future since we've had a lot of the op's for the stickies leave and then we have oudated stickied threads. With the wiki it doesn't matter who leaves, everyone can still edit the guide and keep it up to date.
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Eollie, I agree that the stickies are cluttered. We don't even use a lot of them anymore.
I still say that we should move toward using only the wiki for guides to avoid this in the future since we've had a lot of the op's for the stickies leave and then we have oudated stickied threads. With the wiki it doesn't matter who leaves, everyone can still edit the guide and keep it up to date.
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I know im new here and all, but I have checked the wiki out and to be honest I think its lacking a little... Like I said in new, and I only say this because in the wiki for ppl that are just rooting there phone the only suggestion is heimdall....well that I disagree with, cuz heimdall isnt the only way...all those one click roots like heimdall and super Didnt work for me either... I did it all through odin...I just think the options should be more that just one... But please understand im not trying to make waves, other than that issue I think it great and very informative...
I also would like to say that the devs and and a lot of members here are a great help here and I know im not alone when I say thank you.
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I know im new here and all, but I have checked the wiki out and to be honest I think its lacking a little... Like I said in new, and I only say this because in the wiki for ppl that are just rooting there phone the only suggestion is heimdall....well that I disagree with, cuz heimdall isnt the only way...all those one click roots like heimdall and super Didnt work for me either... I did it all through odin...I just think the options should be more that just one... But please understand im not trying to make waves, other than that issue I think it great and very informative...
I also would like to say that the devs and and a lot of members here are a great help here and I know im not alone when I say thank you.
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Looks like it's time for YOU to edit the wiki and add a guide that works for you.
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Eollie, I agree that the stickies are cluttered. We don't even use a lot of them anymore.
I still say that we should move toward using only the wiki for guides to avoid this in the future since we've had a lot of the op's for the stickies leave and then we have oudated stickied threads. With the wiki it doesn't matter who leaves, everyone can still edit the guide and keep it up to date.
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I have thought about making a update guide like the bible thread but every time I start I have never finished. Im not fond of the wiki for some of the reasons twisted spoke about, however it can be useful.
Is there a person that is notified when edits are made? So we can make sure the proper info is put on it? Ive never paid enough attention to that aspect.
There's a history option in the wiki that lets you view the latest edits, and see what exactly go changed. (It's up top in the navigation)
The thing is that the lack of information can be addressed by adding it. Twisted said there were no Odin guides, well we can add them. There's no real reason why we shouldn't be using it. I know everyone wants to start their thread with their guide on how to do things their way, but there has to be an accepted method of doing things. I've written up a few of the guides on the Wiki but then someone else comes along and improves it with a better method that is more up to date. That's how it should be, you don't have to go to MY thread to try and edit it or try to get me to update it. You can just go in and do it yourself.
Fb... I really didnt mean to cause wave bro, but to be honest I dont know which links I used to root my phone... I look tomorrow at my downloads and see which ones I used, but I do know that I tried alot of different ways so it might take me a minute to find it all... But like I said it was informative and im not taking way from the concept of it cuz I think it would be easier for new ppl trying to root there phone... There is just a lot of info out there that isnt in the wiki...
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Fb... I really didnt mean to cause wave bro, but to be honest I dont know which links I used to root my phone... I look tomorrow at my downloads and see which ones I used, but I do know that I tried alot of different ways so it might take me a minute to find it all... But like I said it was informative and im not taking way from the concept of it cuz I think it would be easier for new ppl trying to root there phone... There is just a lot of info out there that isnt in the wiki...
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You're completely missing the point.
Let me make it easier.
If info is not in wiki, put info in wiki.
I agree about the cleanup but Who is to stop the trolls from updating the wiki with bad info I mean someone could of been offended by another user and think I will change the wiki and put harmful material or instructions just to mess up People phones. There should be Some checks and balance of the info that has been updated
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I agree about the cleanup but Who is to stop the trolls from updating the wiki with bad info I mean someone could of been offended by another user and think I will change the wiki and put harmful material or instructions just to mess up People phones. There should be Some checks and balance of the info that has been updated
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No one can stop another user/troll from putting bad, offensive, or just plan misinformation out there. The maintenance of the wiki is a community effort. Thus we are all responsible for updating it and cleaning it up.
I do like the idea of checks and balances, though. What we need for that effort are maintainers. On top of the community making updates we could have a few people that collaborate to help keep the wiki clean, up to date, etc. The trick would be getting volunteers for Team Wiki (wicked? Wikid! lol) that can put the time and effort into the moderation of the wiki.
Just my 2ȼ.
Nvm, just checked the wiki and it has either been updated or i was blind before, cuz everything i used is in the wiki...
. I'm glad you see that. If someone updates it and starts screwing with the wiki a moderator can always step in. It's basically like the forums, we can't stop you from posting, but once you've posted something that you shouldn't have, we can remove it. We can do the same on the wiki, it keeps track of the edit history, we can always revert to a good version.
Check out this nice list of ROMs available for our phone. It's the most up to date one (thanks to solrac who just updated the list of custom mtd roms portion)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-T959V/List_of_ROMs
Thanks FB that was what I was wanting to know. I have the same reservations as anonymous and Stephen. Ive seen wikipedia edited and things slipped until somebody caught it.
Ive spoke with TRusselo and if we can come up with a list of the threads that need to be cleaned and unstuck he is willing to look into is. However since he doesnt own the phone he did not want to jump in unstickying threads willy nilly. I had planned on posting earlier today but I spent a good part of my day fixing bicycles so I can take my kiddo bike riding.
Ill be out most of tomorrow but Ill try to post my list sometime and if any of you want to also suggest it would be great. My thinking is we can always link to the threads via the wiki and maybe create a new version of the bible thread and the FAQ thread Mr. Clown created.
If you want to make suggestions please list which sub the thread is in and the thread name no need to link it. The final list will have links when I submit it to TRusselo.
Well I can say once this idea is completed it will be a lot more user friendly...
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General Sub
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122508
Froyo flashing guide not really needed since we are on GB, CM7, and now CM9.
Most of the information in this thread is general rules and mostly common sense.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235789
This one too has some forum rules and common sense stuff posted. Maybe condense it with the one above.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1310270
This one is a PSA and again something that is part of the main rules.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195027
This one is very informative but maybe when Juls updates it he can post it on the wiki.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1480418
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This is a old guide that has since been changed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1215748
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Development Sub
Since this thread is very out of date it needs to be unstuck. Most information in this thread has changed and is no longer relevant.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117554
This thread the info is out of date. The second post is useful but the first one is out of date.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=979109
This one if we get official support of RM it will be outdated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305560
All of the above is open for suggestions or even tell me certain threads need to stay as stickies. Im just looking to trim the sticky list down.
I was also thinking each sub could have a thread that has links to the wiki for things. That way even if the person that creates it leaves and never comes back the wiki links will be the same. Then the threads can be linked on the wiki and if a thread is out dated it can be removed from the wiki.
Looks like good suggestions so far.
As far as recreating the bible thread, we can easily do that in the wiki. The roms portion is pretty much set except for roms that haven't been released yet.
The dev stickies are definitely the ones we should get rid of. right now we have 6 stickied threads. They take up a lot of room before getting to the latest content from dev threads.
I agree with creating a bible in the wiki, I was suggesting linking to it in a sticky. I tend to have a hard time expressing my thoughts in few words. I mean you have read some of my posts .
Anybody have any objections to the lists I have above?
Eollie if you want make a stickie of the rom wiki because I always update this wiki
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Anybody have any objections to the lists I have above?
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I have not yet had an opportunity to look through your list. Seems FB read through it and I know I trust his opinion. I will look through it later. Thanks for taking the time to get this going.