What's the difference between HTC 'Task Manager' and 'Running Services' Under Application in Settings?
I get the general difference between a task and a service. But is the Ram allocated separately for user and the system?
The Task Manager shows 100mb free while the Running Services in Application shows 229mb.
Which should I trust? And how to free up more ram in task manager? It shows not running app currently, and I just disabled a ton of services from auto startup. Things I dont need.
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@Russell bro check this link out forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1890835
Does it really work??...
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@fash1 try using the link I mentioned above .......... It increased my system's ram & speed
Using swap for this phone is useless. This kind of apps are great if you have 256 mb's or below, for pico it is even possible to make it slower than it is now
russelldias said:
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Ughh! Check the damn date dude -_- and re read the query with eyes open for a change maybe? Obviously ram can't be increased!
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Dude please change the thread name. It will mislead most of the forum members.
Make it How to increase available system RAM?
Ok now I get what is the idea.
Now there is huuuuge possibility that I'm totally wrong about this but anyway.........
Firstly running services should show, what is currently running and how much ram is free, the task manager should show running services AND cached processes, from there comes the difference.With some kind of task manager you should be able to stop unneeded stuff, or some kind of cleaner (fast reboot for example). If you are using a CM rom in 'developer options' there is 'background process limit' option, so it should do the trick.
shortyoko said:
Ok now I get what is the idea.
Now there is huuuuge possibility that I'm totally wrong about this but anyway.........
Firstly running services should show, what is currently running and how much ram is free, the task manager should show running services AND cached processes, from there comes the difference.With some kind of task manager you should be able to stop unneeded stuff, or some kind of cleaner (fast reboot for example). If you are using a CM rom in 'developer options' there is 'background process limit' option, so it should do the trick.
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Yay! Thanks
And yes the topic was rather misleading. And I am not even on stock. It was just something I was wondering. Guess HTC does not show the processes it needs to keep the ui running. While rebooter and estaskmanager kills all processes in the memory then relaunches the launcher and everything when needed.
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Solid Mercury said:
Dude please change the thread name. It will mislead most of the forum members.
Make it How to increase available system RAM?
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Nah... It should be, 'Difference between HTC task manager and process manager' maybe.
I am a noob, but not that much a noob to not even know how to boost available memory
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Does anyone else have this weird memory problem. So I start my day off with my in use program memory at about 49%. Check a couple emails, turn on my wifi, make a few calls and by noon my in use program memory creeps up and up. I close all applications and have nothing running and keeps going up till my TC is virtually freezing up. Any insight?
Thanks,
turcomora said:
Does anyone else have this weird memory problem. So I start my day off with my in use program memory at about 49%. Check a couple emails, turn on my wifi, make a few calls and by noon my in use program memory creeps up and up. I close all applications and have nothing running and keeps going up till my TC is virtually freezing up. Any insight?
Thanks,
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Well, Windows Mobile alone usually does not close apps. It only minimizes them.
Make sure you have installed HTC Task Manager aka HTC X Button or another task manager like WkTASK. These apps have the ability of really closing the app and thus making memory available.
tnyynt said:
Well, Windows Mobile alone usually does not close apps. It only minimizes them.
Make sure you have installed HTC Task Manager aka HTC X Button or another task manager like WkTASK. These apps have the ability of really closing the app and thus making memory available.[/QUO
I use HTC X button to close all my apps, thats the weird thing.
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turcomora said:
tnyynt said:
Well, Windows Mobile alone usually does not close apps. It only minimizes them.
Make sure you have installed HTC Task Manager aka HTC X Button or another task manager like WkTASK. These apps have the ability of really closing the app and thus making memory available.[/QUO
I use HTC X button to close all my apps, thats the weird thing.
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Do you have it set to close apps on X tap, close apps on tap and hold or disabled?
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Do you have it set to close apps on X tap, close apps on tap and hold or disabled?
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I have it set to close on tap not on hold.
turcomora said:
I have it set to close on tap not on hold.
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Then try switching to WkTask. In my opinion it's the best task manager available for the mobile. Amongst other things, it shows you cpu usage and running processes.
tnyynt said:
Then try switching to WkTask. In my opinion it's the best task manager available for the mobile. Amongst other things, it shows you cpu usage and running processes.
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Thanks I will try it and post my results. The memory leak is very slow but is annoying to see.
turcomora said:
Thanks I will try it and post my results. The memory leak is very slow but is annoying to see.
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You could also try dotfred's task manager.
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You could also try dotfred's task manager.
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Let me try that one too. Thanks,
Yes guys...! Finally problem is solved guys. I got one paid app on market 'ram manager' which has special features to control ur ram. Especially it has option for multitasking with non killing apps. Means u can now multitask & still ur apps will run in background until you choose it to close. I have tested it since 1 hour. I have opened gallary, ucbrowser, opera mobile & go launcher (above mentioned every app is so much ram hungry app). And I am amazed that even after 1 hour all apps are still opened. Its really so amazing guys Really its a worth app.
Here is link of that app.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305060
I am really fed up of this problem. I surf alot xda using opera. Opera mobile nearly take 30-40 mb ram. So for me I get nearly 130-140 mb free ram. But even though when I try to open some other apps then automatically android closes opera. So I have to reopen it. No problem in re-opening an app but then it start to load links which I have been surfing which really annoying me ::
I want simple multi tasking like nokia which keep open every app until u choose it to close it. I am really impressed with multi tasking of nokia.
Can anybody provide a solution, app or script or anything which will KEEP APP IN OPEN STATE until I choose it to close it ?? I searched on net. I found same complaints on net related to android muti tasking...!!! I dont use any task killer app.
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same problem with me too........I too surf xda using opera mobile and this happens wide me 2
Use dolphin hd browser. Faster and better.
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kemistry01 said:
Use dolphin hd browser. Faster and better.
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sorry problem is not browser. Problem is how android handles multi tasking. I just want that android should not close app without our permission like in nokia. But in android it close app without let u know.
vishal24387 said:
sorry problem is not browser. Problem is how android handles multi tasking. I just want that android should not close app without our permission like in nokia. But in android it close app without let u know.
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try this. I don't know if it's only the paid version that allows exempting, but it's worth a shot. once you go into the processes, you can click the browser specifically and click to change it from "excluded (no)" to "excluded (yes)". this should make it exempt from android's method of memory recovery (not a task killer app)
Are you using this? Try disabling it and see what happens.
You can do it from terminal emulator:
Code:
su
chmod -x /system/etc/init.d/S95allinone
and if you want to re-enable it:
Code:
su
chmod +x /system/etc/init.d/S95allinone
(reboot your phone of course)
I had the same ques initially
Check this thread started by me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094076
loSconosciuto said:
Are you using this? Try disabling it and see what happens.
You can do it from terminal emulator:
Code:
su
chmod -x /system/etc/init.d/S95allinone
and if you want to re-enable it:
Code:
su
chmod +x /system/etc/init.d/S95allinone
(reboot your phone of course)
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no i am not using any script.
ggclanlord said:
I had the same ques initially
Check this thread started by me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1094076
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i checked that thread. But there people have discussed only related to problem. Nobody mentioned any solution.
Finally solved problem. See OP.
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Yes guys...! Finally problem is solved guys. I got one paid app on market 'ram manager' which has special features to control ur ram. Especially it has option for multitasking with non killing apps. Means u can now multitask & still ur apps will run in background until you choose it to close. I have tested it since 1 hour. I have opened gallary, ucbrowser, opera mobile & go launcher (above mentioned every app is so much ram hungry app). And I am amazed that even after 1 hour all apps are still opened. Its really so amazing guys Really its a worth app.
Here is link of that app.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305060
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Thanks man. Just what i was looking for.
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Sorry to bump an old thread, but has anyone actually found a solution to this problem? I've tried supercharger, minfree manager, RAM manager pro, and Galaxy Tuner. None have proven to be an actual solution to the problem that seems to be baked right in to the heart of all versions of Android after eclair.
Is this at all fixable?
bill
i tried this with balance profile.seems good till now.
btw vishal whuch profile are u using ??
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simratcs said:
i tried this with balance profile.seems good till now.
btw vishal whuch profile are u using ??
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Also just found this thread, and must give a big thanks! Finally a program to enable proper multitasking! It actually works!
cix18 said:
same problem with me too........I too surf xda using opera mobile and this happens wide me 2
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So guys try using uc browser HD
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xposed solution
kriraj said:
So guys try using uc browser HD
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Sorry I forgot to follow up, a solution has been found after many hours of searching: using the "Xposed app settings" add-in for the Xposed Framework will let you whitelist applications from Android's "banhammer of destruction" and it works particularly well on devices with little free ram.
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Thanks for the info, I just used it!
vishal24387 said:
Yes guys...! Finally problem is solved guys. I got one paid app on market 'ram manager' which has special features to control ur ram. Especially it has option for multitasking with non killing apps. Means u can now multitask & still ur apps will run in background until you choose it to close. I have tested it since 1 hour. I have opened gallary, ucbrowser, opera mobile & go launcher (above mentioned every app is so much ram hungry app). And I am amazed that even after 1 hour all apps are still opened. Its really so amazing guys Really its a worth app.
Here is link of that app.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305060
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I have j7 pro which is known for ram management issues and this did not help. In fact I believe these apps get kiled by android as well!
Read the thread; solution already found
Greight said:
I have j7 pro which is known for ram management issues and this did not help. In fact I believe these apps get kiled by android as well!
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If you had read the thread, you'd see that I already shared that Xposed App Settings is the only solution.
Ok so I have the cm10-20120924 ROM(I believe that's the one) on a sgs3 i535. I've always had that watchdog app to tell me what apps are running in the background and which apps are using however much CPU %. All of a sudden the watchdog app says "android media process above threshold.". Now what I'm curious about is what exactly is making it say that to me because I keep killing the "android media proces" and yet it continues to show up on the watchdog app. Is there a safe task killer to use? No task killer better... I'm a noob so please bare with me. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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i want a kernel or something else for xperia e single to high speed of my ram! i think its 512mb! please give me something!! please!!!!!!
please answer anyone
This could mean two things: or you want to make your RAM faster which is impossible, or you want more RAM.
You do realise RAM is hardware? Data gets loaded in and processed super fast. When you want to drink water, you put it in a glass. See RAM as your glass. The data(applications) need something to be in for them to work.
Now, you can't increase the amount of real RAM. Yes, you could remove your motherboard from the phone and try to lime a 2 GB DDR3 stick to it. Chances are this won't work.
What you could use is something called swap. You create a partition on your SD card and let your phone use it as RAM. The problem here is that even a class 10 SD card doesn't have the speed of RAM. So it won't do much and your SD card will be burnt up quickly.
Simple answer: you can't get the kernel because it's not possible. Zeus supports swap though.
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sorry but i dont undestand the english always! please tell me again how to can this, in title post
feikacab said:
sorry but i dont undestand the english always! please tell me again how to can this, in title post
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Only you can change the "title post."
It is not possible. Let's try to explain it to you again.
The RAM inside our phones is fixed permanently to its inside parts. You can't change it, make it better, or do anything with it.
@MatsPunt The chipset is very old. I'm pretty sure DDR3 won't work.
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@MatsPunt The chipset is very old. I'm pretty sure DDR3 won't work.
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MatsPunt said:
Chances are this won't work.
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NSDCars5 said:
Only you can change the "title post."
It is not possible. Let's try to explain it to you again.
The RAM inside our phones is fixed permanently to its inside parts. You can't change it, make it better, or do anything with it.
@MatsPunt The chipset is very old. I'm pretty sure DDR3 won't work.
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exist a kernel to boost the ram?
feikacab said:
exist a kernel to boost the ram?
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As MatsPunt said, the best thing you can do is use a kernel like Zeus which has swap and/or zRAM support. These will give a teeny meeny boost.
Also, try apps like Greenify to free RAM.
NSDCars5 said:
As MatsPunt said, the best thing you can do is use a kernel like Zeus which has swap and/or zRAM support. These will give a teeny meeny boost.
Also, try apps like Greenify to free RAM.
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how to use greenify to free ram?
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how to use greenify to free ram?
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1. Download Greenify from Play Store.
2. Open the app.
3. It may ask for root permissions. If it does, at any point of time, give it root.
4. Tap the "+" sign and then choose an app to be Greenified.
Repeat step 4 for all apps you want to Greenify. These apps will now consume memory only when opened.
WARNING: Don't Greenify Hangouts, WhatsApp, Gmail and such because when you Greenify something, you stop getting notifications (like messages etc) from it.
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1. Download Greenify from Play Store.
2. Open the app.
3. It may ask for root permissions. If it does, at any point of time, give it root.
4. Tap the "+" sign and then choose an app to be Greenified.
Repeat step 4 for all apps you want to Greenify. These apps will now consume memory only when opened.
WARNING: Don't Greenify Hangouts, WhatsApp, Gmail and such because when you Greenify something, you stop getting notifications (like messages etc) from it.
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Not with the donation package - I get all the messages from skype and facebook if they are hibernated.
Saleen28 said:
Not with the donation package - I get all the messages from skype and facebook if they are hibernated.
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Really? I only ever used the free version, so I don't have much idea.
does'nt exist a kernel? no zeus..
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Really? I only ever used the free version, so I don't have much idea.
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Yup.
Only annoying thing is this - you chat with someone on pc and when you enable wifi/internet on the phone, you instantly get bombed by all messages you received durning the time you were on pc.
Other than that, everything works properly
Hello my fellow S8+ owners! The device maintenance app that is in the settings menu keeps telling me that some apps are slowing down my phone and to press "Fix Now" to put those apps to sleep. However, every time I have done that it will go through the process and even when it displays the maintenance score of 100 it still shows the same message. It's not a huge deal I know but it annoys the hell out of me that there could be some app running in the background slowing down my phone. If anyone has any suggestions to solve this issue it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone!
When you in device maintenance click on memory wait for all running apps to load and click clean now. Same with battery
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Othoric said:
Hello my fellow S8+ owners! The device maintenance app that is in the settings menu keeps telling me that some apps are slowing down my phone and to press "Fix Now" to put those apps to sleep. However, every time I have done that it will go through the process and even when it displays the maintenance score of 100 it still shows the same message. It's not a huge deal I know but it annoys the hell out of me that there could be some app running in the background slowing down my phone. If anyone has any suggestions to solve this issue it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone!
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When you in device maintenance click on memory wait for all running apps to load and click clean now. Same with battery
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When you in device maintenance click on memory wait for all running apps to load and click clean now. Same with battery
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When you in device maintenance click on memory wait for all running apps to load and click clean now. Same with battery
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I was actually able to fix it a short time ago. I had to go into the app manager and clear the data for the device manager app and restart it. It must have been a bug of some kind. All is good now though. Thanks for the input anyways though!
Ironic that the device maintenance app tells you how to speed up your device but itself is a memory hog and disabling it will help your device more than using it
goonygugle said:
Ironic that the device maintenance app tells you how to speed up your device but itself is a memory hog and disabling it will help your device more than using it
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Interesting... I haven't noticed an appreciable lag (yet) but would be interested to know what alternative(s) you would consider to the stock Device Maintenance app.
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Interesting... I haven't noticed an appreciable lag (yet) but would be interested to know what alternative(s) you would consider to the stock Device Maintenance app.
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I dont use one, I just disable it and use a widget shortcut to access the battery settings, the rest I don't feel I need. And if I decide I do I can just enable, make changes then disable again
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I dont use one, I just disable it and use a widget shortcut to access the battery settings, the rest I don't feel I need. And if I decide I do I can just enable, make changes then disable again
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Hi bro? I sent you loads of PM