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Is 1.5Ghz too high?

I have my Sensation set to 1.5Ghz and it works perfectly. The only thing is that it's getting a little hot (which is expected btw). It's currently fixed at 42C. 1.5Ghz is great but is it really that necessary? Should I just OC it to 1.3Ghz? I'm trying to find a nice temp base.

monkey hung said:
I have my Sensation set to 1.5Ghz and it works perfectly. The only thing is that it's getting a little hot (which is expected btw). It's currently fixed at 42C. 1.5Ghz is great but is it really that necessary? Should I just OC it to 1.3Ghz? I'm trying to find a nice temp base.
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To answer your question, each device will have a differing operational ceiling depending on the quality of the SoC, soldering, silk-screening etc. They aren't all created equal. If 1.5GHz works fine for you, stick with it I see OC kernels pushing to 1.8GHz now.
Naturally the higher you go the hotter your SoC will run, so I'd play around and find the point where you gain some performance, but negligible heat over stock. Heat will kill not only your SoC, but your battery as well.
I'm only going from personal experience, but I've never found an OC to be worth it in terms of an actual, real-life performance increase, on any device. It looks good in benchmarks, but I'd rather have a phone that was smooth as butter in day-to-day operation than a jerky piece of sh*t that gets 10,000 in Quadrant YMMV of course!
The heat stress and battery drainage costs, plus stability issues, outweigh the positives for me.

How can I reset my CPU back to stock then?

monkey hung said:
How can I reset my CPU back to stock then?
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Most of the Sensation ROMs feature what's called an OC Daemon.
This is pretty much an automatic overclocker of sorts. It can change your clock ceiling/floor automatically depending on load. Read a bit more about it here.
If you have something like SetCPU installed, the Daemon is redundant, giving you manual control over your clocks. The easiest way to return to 'stock' frequencies would be to simply delete SetCPU and allow the Daemon to do it's thing

Well I uninstalled it and I have LeeDroid. How do I find this "daemon"? Where would it be located? What do I do I'm a noob

monkey hung said:
Well I uninstalled it and I have LeeDroid. How do I find this "daemon"? Where would it be located? What do I do I'm a noob
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I couldn't see whether the daemon in included on LeeDroid, or whether LeeDroid has actually just modified the frequency tables (list of supported frequencies) to allow for the ~1730MHz ceiling. If the daemon is there, it'll already be working for you - you don't see it
I don't believe it's something you can just download and tack on. I think you'd have to be running a supported ROM. You may need to dig a little deeper into the LeeDroid thread and do some reading, or perhaps retitle this thread to ask 'Does LeeDroid include the OC Daemon' or something similar.
Sorry I can't be more help, I'm a devout Android Revolution HD supporter myself, although I am running the UNITY kernel.
Good luck mate!

personally I can't see the need to over clock, given that all software is probably written for devices currently in use, I do not know of any dual core 1.5 or higher phones, so why oc ?
I agree , I would rather have a fast stable phone, than some jerky fc piece of ****e that gets 10000 jiggawatts in a benchmark, and that can cook my crumpets..................... on second thoughts, I do like my crumpets.

Using ROMs: Performance increase?

I am considering using a custom ROM on the transformer, but is it worth it, I am mainly after performance increases. I see on a few that there are higher benchmark results, but does this actually translate into a real world speed increase?
I remember some custom ROMs for the original i9000 Galaxy S doubled the benchmark performance, but that was more down to "cheating" the benchmark than anything else, although it certainly was noticeable at times.
One of the slight criticisms I have of the TF101 is a slight amount of lag / lack of responsiveness occasionally - not a deal breaker, but if it can be improved then why not? Obviously not at the cost of stability though.
I think the SGS2 has spoiled me a bit here!

apparently there is a big increase (mostly from overclocking). i had the standard firmware for 3 days only, so I can't really tell, but one of my co-workers has a locked B70 and was wow-ed by my TF, the smoothness and speed of it.

Yes, I'm waiting too, to root it and put a cutom ROM on. I read, heard and saw the performance difference. Mainly from the overclock, but also thanks to kernel tweaks and stuff. So If you can root, do it
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I've never been that keen on the idea of overclocking, as I prefer to have a bit of headroom, but I guess if it is safe and makes a big difference, then I would give it a shot. What would be a good middle ground for stability / speed ?

1.4 IMO is very stable and doesn't increase heat or use more battery but the real world performance is noticable. I have never run a benchmark so I can't give you any numbers. Just my normal use.

Cheers for the reply.
Is there any one ROM that stands out as being the best performing?

Contrary to what people think they all perform about the same. There is no source so everyone is building of the same stock rom. If you want the same look then go with Revolution. If you want a little tweaked then go with Prime (What I'm on). If you want the tweaks and a nice tools package then go with Revolver (What I was just running). All 3 devs are really responsive to problems
If you start from a clean base and don't restore any system data from other builds then they will all be fast. The real speed difference is in the kernel and those can be flashed seperately from the rom. Clemsyn is really putting out kernels this week. Some good. Some not so good. Go with whats right for you.
EDIT: I have actually installed all 3 roms in the last week and run them at stock and at 1.4 Ghz. They all performed exactly the same for me. They were all equally stable. I don't use benchmarks because they can be fudged.

I've used all three too. I notice huge improvements with webpage rendering. It's almost as fast as my laptop, where as before I avoided using the browser if possible. The ability to hide the status bar is a really nice addition to the latest version of revolver.
Edit: autorotate is also alot faster.
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tameracingdriver said:
What would be a good middle ground for stability / speed ?
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There is no such thing as an overclocking "middle ground" when dealing with mobile chipsets such as the Tegra. It's not like overclocking a desktop computer where the CPU will constantly run at the specified speed; mobile chipsets are pre-configured to utilize only as much power as necessary. For that reason I always ramp up my tablet to the max clock speed it can reliably handle, because then the governor will handle balancing between speed, stability, and battery life. My clock speed can range from 216Mhz to 1624Mhz, and on the interactive governor I can still achieve a good 8 hours of battery life from a single charge.
Of course that's not to say that you couldn't constantly run at 1624Mhz all the time, and I do sometimes lock it to that speed for games. But for much of the OS interaction, it's not necessary to run at full speed all the time, and you won't notice a difference even if it is locked at full speed. It just comes in handy every once in a while for things like loading apps, loading web pages, and playing games.

[Q] Fasted Rom/Kernal Combo For NS4G

I'm looking for the fasted NS4G Rom/Kernel Combo...
I'm looking for something slim, but with Gapps. But will stay fast and be good on batter. (I know its a lot to ask). But it just feels like my phone is slowing to a crawl...I'm not looking to play any games on my phone (I have a N7 for that), just the basics, occasionally look things up on the web, text, call. I just want a fluid, fast experience.
I'm currently on the newest RasBeanJelly, willing to move or maybe just recommend me a Kernel, because I'm currently using stock.
Any help/tips/recommendations would be great!
Thanks.

CodeNameAndroid 3.6.6 with AIR Kernel is the fastest my phone has ever been. It is different for every handset and user though. Everyone uses their phone differently, and every handset isn't able to overclock, undervolt, or both at once, depending on how much better than the "standard" your specific chip happens to be.
I did overclock mine up to 1200mhz from the stock 1000mhz, but I was able to undervolt it to stock 1000mhz voltage (I believe it was 1250mv) at 1200mhz and remain stable with Ondemandx and Deadline. Was also able to knock -25 to -50mv's off of 1000 and 800mhz also and still stayed stable. I did get good battery life on that ROM too, but hard to say how much since the battery in mine is all but ruined (my kids play on it all the time so it's been charged like twice a day for a year and a half)
I know that overclocking/undervolting results vary from handset to handset depending on how well binned your chip is. In my experience, these things are almost always stable at 1200mhz with 1300mv with a ROM/Kernel combo that plays nice together. That is a 20% increase in speed with only a 3% - 4% increase in power. Well worth it IMO. I also loved Blackbean with Marmite and Crossbones with Matr1x. YMMV
Blackbean is my favorite looking, CNA was the best performing for me, and I've always liked Crossbones because it has always ran rock-solid on my NS4G with no reboots or lockups. Seems like I can always overclock higher and remain stable on Crossbones with Matr1x or AIR also (but it kills the battery so I stick to around 1200 because I dont even notice a difference)

Cm10 with marmite kernel

Slim 3.0 all the way. Its already got a great kernel!
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[Q] Stock ROM much faster processor speeds than custom ROMs?

I'm struggling to get my head around this drastic difference in speed.
Stock ROM on linpack scores about 100Mflops on single thread, and 200Mflops on multi thread similar to this video at 2:50 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh5quKyypw8
However since flashing CM10 my linpack scores have more than halved! I never get over 80Mflops now on multi thread, and rarely over 40Mflops on single thread. Also in quadrant it shows my cpu scoring really low, but my RAM scoring very high. I was wondering if my the ROMs are effecting my processor speeds?
I am about to go back to the stock ROM to see if linpack scores shoot back up!

If you don't notice a difference who cares about benchmark scores?
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Well I do agree with what you are saying, and it still seems very fast. But I used it for less than a day on the stock ROM, so I don't really have anything to compare it to.
I am wondering more if these benchmarks are giving false readings, or if they are actually picking up on some poor processor optimisations, which whilst may not be noticeable day to day, could have a greater impact on CPU hungry tasks such as making and restoring large backups etc.
But benchmarks for the sake of benchmarks I agree are pointless.

RichardW1992 said:
Well I do agree with what you are saying, and it still seems very fast. But I used it for less than a day on the stock ROM, so I don't really have anything to compare it to.
I am wondering more if these benchmarks are giving false readings, or if they are actually picking up on some poor processor optimisations, which whilst may not be noticeable day to day, could have a greater impact on CPU hungry tasks such as making and restoring large backups etc.
But benchmarks for the sake of benchmarks I agree are pointless.
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I pretty much stopped using custom roms that aren't based on official sense based roms because of low benchmark numbers, questionable battery life and terrible camera support.
HTC has most if not all drivers for the hardware closed source, so developers are trying their best but I just use the stock ROM

RichardW1992 said:
Well I do agree with what you are saying, and it still seems very fast. But I used it for less than a day on the stock ROM, so I don't really have anything to compare it to.
I am wondering more if these benchmarks are giving false readings, or if they are actually picking up on some poor processor optimisations, which whilst may not be noticeable day to day, could have a greater impact on CPU hungry tasks such as making and restoring large backups etc.
But benchmarks for the sake of benchmarks I agree are pointless.
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Your not getting false readings... That's just how it is.. Bench marks don't mean anything... Cm will always have a lower score than stock but is just as fast.. If your worried about scores flash a ROM based on sense ota...
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Overclocking Confusion!!

Finally figured out how to over clock my CPU/GPU on One X with CM11 KitKat rom. Bumped the CPU to 1809 (what I researched is stable) and GPU to 512. My Antutu benchmark score dropped from low 17k's to mid 13k?
Help please!! Could running Trickster Mod App interfere with Performance option in CM11....?

Trickster Mod isn't interfering with the performance, it just means your phone won't perform at its peak with those settings. Higher CPU/GPU clocks don't necessarily mean better performance, I've seen this through extensive personal testing. Dial the settings back to stock and increase the clock speed incrementally while testing after each increase, you'll reach a point where performance suffers, dial it back one notch and there you have your "peak" settings.
Unless you're doing some really hardcore gaming on your phone it's all pretty pointless. There's no advantage to overclocking in everyday use of the device other than to say it's overclocked, you just can't notice a difference, any noticed difference is more than likely a placebo. I actually underclock my CPU to 1242mhz to improve battery life and have zero negative response whosoever, no matter what I throw at it.
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I agree with Tim here. I'm running cm11 on power saver mode, and it runs just fine. A little slow opening and closing apps, but buttery smooth for everything else.
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