I'm looking for the fasted NS4G Rom/Kernel Combo...
I'm looking for something slim, but with Gapps. But will stay fast and be good on batter. (I know its a lot to ask). But it just feels like my phone is slowing to a crawl...I'm not looking to play any games on my phone (I have a N7 for that), just the basics, occasionally look things up on the web, text, call. I just want a fluid, fast experience.
I'm currently on the newest RasBeanJelly, willing to move or maybe just recommend me a Kernel, because I'm currently using stock.
Any help/tips/recommendations would be great!
Thanks.
CodeNameAndroid 3.6.6 with AIR Kernel is the fastest my phone has ever been. It is different for every handset and user though. Everyone uses their phone differently, and every handset isn't able to overclock, undervolt, or both at once, depending on how much better than the "standard" your specific chip happens to be.
I did overclock mine up to 1200mhz from the stock 1000mhz, but I was able to undervolt it to stock 1000mhz voltage (I believe it was 1250mv) at 1200mhz and remain stable with Ondemandx and Deadline. Was also able to knock -25 to -50mv's off of 1000 and 800mhz also and still stayed stable. I did get good battery life on that ROM too, but hard to say how much since the battery in mine is all but ruined (my kids play on it all the time so it's been charged like twice a day for a year and a half)
I know that overclocking/undervolting results vary from handset to handset depending on how well binned your chip is. In my experience, these things are almost always stable at 1200mhz with 1300mv with a ROM/Kernel combo that plays nice together. That is a 20% increase in speed with only a 3% - 4% increase in power. Well worth it IMO. I also loved Blackbean with Marmite and Crossbones with Matr1x. YMMV
Blackbean is my favorite looking, CNA was the best performing for me, and I've always liked Crossbones because it has always ran rock-solid on my NS4G with no reboots or lockups. Seems like I can always overclock higher and remain stable on Crossbones with Matr1x or AIR also (but it kills the battery so I stick to around 1200 because I dont even notice a difference)
Cm10 with marmite kernel
Slim 3.0 all the way. Its already got a great kernel!
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Is anyone else having an issue with custom kernels? My Tbolt only seems to run on the stock kernel/voltage. When I flash an oc kernel sometimes it will load and then freeze the system.
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All phones are NOT created equally. Your phone may just not be able to handle it while others could.
I realize every cpu used is not the same and can't handle being overclocked to the max, but come on, I can't overclock it at all without it freezing shortly after the Rom starting. Don't you think that's a little out of the ordinary?
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I seem to be able to run speeds up to 1.8 or so without issues. Something I'm noticing is even with higher speeds, being on the smart-ass setting still isn't baby butt smooth consistently. I know they are still fine tuning it. I can run at a much lower clock speed while set to on-demand and get great results. How it is on battery life? Still testing. I'm using Ziggy's latest from this evening, BFS.
Yeah that does sound kinda sketchy. Which kernels have you tried? Have you tried running one that wasn't undervolted? I've heard people having issues with the UV kernels.
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I seem to be able to run speeds up to 1.8 or so without issues. Something I'm noticing is even with higher speeds, being on the smart-ass setting still isn't baby butt smooth consistently. I know they are still fine tuning it. I can run at a much lower clock speed while set to on-demand and get great results. How it is on battery life? Still testing. I'm using Ziggy's latest from this evening, BFS.
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I know what you mean. I had the 1.2 GHz uv kernel from adrenalyne and the phone ran like crap. What's the point of over clocking if real world results are worse. Smart-Ass would stutter while it was ramping up and gun bros ran like crap until I reverted back to the stock kernel.
I'm hoping somebody makes an OC kernel that isn't under volted.
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I'm running Imoseyon's version 3 of the lean kernal, 1.4 ghz, undervolted. it seems much faster and more responsive, and has yet to cause me any problems. Right now I'm running on 20 hours off the charger with 45% battery life left (extended battery, so assuming stock would last around 9 hours).
The only kernel that works for me is adrenaline's 2.6.32.21 battery is life kernel. I've tried his other kernels, imoseyon's lean kernels, and a few others all with the same result of freezing up the Tbolt.
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Have you tried adrenalynes newest kernel? I'm using version 4 right now with no problems.
Yeah, another vote for Adrenalyne's kernels here.
I'm running the version 4c, and it's flawless on my phone. (4b locked up at higher speeds.) But the other tweaks he threw in there kick ass. Louder audio, faster charging and, I think, most significant, a potential fix for the GPS issues a lot of people are experiencing. Granted, mine was not too bad -- I could usually get a lock within a minute or two, but now it's locking in under ten seconds.
Can't quite comment on the battery life yet, but it's probably pretty damn good, especially with a minimal overclock or even staying at 1Ghz.
Running one of Ziggy's...so far so good...
I ran Drod's 1.5 kernel with no problems overclocking. When I switched over to Ziggy's or Adrynalyne's overclock kernels, I am unable to overclock with out my phone freezing and going into constant boot loops. Kinda weird but I have no real need to OC so I just went with Adrynalyne's stock kernel and been fine ever since.
Hey everyone, i just upgraded to a Nexus S 4G this morning from the ol samsung transform, and i was planning on applying cyanogen but then i messed with the phone a bit, did root and restored a couple of my game apps...it seems to work with very nice speed, only serious issues ive noticed are just with the signal, sensitivity of keyboard, and i havnt had time to see battery life yet..
But i was wondering, since the stock rom is so clean and fast, why are we putting on different roms like cyanogen?
More importantly, as far as kernel, whats the best kernel right now for nexus 4g? im running stock kernel, but naturally and ideally id like even more speed(not sure what id use it for, but always nice), better battery life, and better data signals..
ive been reading about overclocked kernels a little bit and such, so basically im wondering about what you guys would say to all this? should i change rom &/Or kernel? to what? why? does overclocking at 1.4ghz like these kernels say have any negative side effects? things like that.
Thanks for your response!
~ Master Ramy
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Hey everyone, i just upgraded to a Nexus S 4G this morning from the ol samsung transform, and i was planning on applying cyanogen but then i messed with the phone a bit, did root and restored a couple of my game apps...it seems to work with very nice speed, only serious issues ive noticed are just with the signal, sensitivity of keyboard, and i havnt had time to see battery life yet..
But i was wondering, since the stock rom is so clean and fast, why are we putting on different roms like cyanogen?
More importantly, as far as kernel, whats the best kernel right now for nexus 4g? im running stock kernel, but naturally and ideally id like even more speed(not sure what id use it for, but always nice), better battery life, and better data signals..
ive been reading about overclocked kernels a little bit and such, so basically im wondering about what you guys would say to all this? should i change rom &/Or kernel? to what? why? does overclocking at 1.4ghz like these kernels say have any negative side effects? things like that.
Thanks for your response!
~ Master Ramy
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There are quite a lot of things that can be changed by flashing a custom ROM. Cyanogen is reported to be more responsive than stock android, and a slight improvement on battery life and performance. Also, with other ROMs like MIUI you can completely change the entire GUI basically. The lockscreen becomes changeable by one click in the themes app. I've also noticed a slight improvement in battery life/performance and responsiveness.
Also, with regards to kernels, they add extra features (like voodoo sound, BLN notifications, UV'ing, OC'ing, etc). Now if you're looking to overclock your CPU AND save on battery life then that is probably not going to happen. If you OC the CPU you'll as a result draw more battery power when it reaches it's peak. Hence why I went with the TEUV88 kernel. This kernel undervolts the CPU yet manages to give me the same performance as the stock kernel. It runs extremely nicely and the battery lasts me about 24-30 hours on moderate usage where as before I was getting around 16.
Hope this helps.
Edit:: note that both undervolting and overclocking can be dangerous for any phone. The kernel developers put their kernels through testing though to ensure they are stable enough for most people (I hope anyways). But be aware that it is possible to damage the hardware be either of these methods.
yeah im looking at more undervolting for battery life cause current performance seems great for me as of this point. but i mean cyanogenmod doesnt change much since its built on gingerbread, its just slightly more customized, but on the actual performance side, it is a slight increase? so whats the best kernel for undervolting and still getting stock performance or more? im guessing its the one u just mentioned? cause i saw a voodoo kernel or something on main dev page and itwas undervolted and OCed to 1.4 i think...idk.
Yeah you might be talking about the matr1x kernel. It ocs to 1.44 and is uved also. Plus has voodoo sound, bln and bld. Some people have issues with cm7 and some don't. I really don't like the look of miui so I can't say for it. But I use decks 1.3d with zero issues and matr1x kernel with zero issues along with heavy use 4+ hrs screen time in over 12hrs. Personally running 1.44 your phone will prolly lock up but I run 1.2 non stop no freezes or lockups or reboots. Try them and see qhich ones fit you and what you like.
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I'm still on stock with mine and honestly, I don't need anything else... i get 12-15 hours of moderate use and i don't really know what lag is because i never experience it with my phone.
The above posters are correct in everyway. I mean it definitely comes down to preference. I was averaging about 13-15h on my stock kernel/rom but my phone would be basically completely dead.
I switched to TEUV88-rammstein2 (Trinity Undervolted rom). It has Voodoo sound, BLN (backlight notification), and with todays update it has touchwake mod. So as you can see my phone lasted 15h (still with 35% battery left) with 3h of screen on, and 45m of audio streaming, and lots of texting.
Check out my post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17108560&postcount=3154
Okay I'm planning to buy this phone and decided I am going to use CM9, just wondering what kernel I should use stability and performance is key, I don't mind battery life I can cope with charging every night as I do this now with the worlds worst phone (iPhone 3G) fully charged this morning (8:00) now 30% (17:15) all I've used it for is a little browsing and at most 2 and a half hours of music at mid volume and sent a few texts. So to wrap this up what kernel would you recommend stability ranks higher than speed but speed is important battery mind I can cope with as long as it is better than my iPhones :') If anybody already has CM9 post some screen shots :')
either franco or glados will give you the best of all worlds (performance, stability, battery). i'm not partial to either, i just flash whichever was updated more recently.
Trinity kernels
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I'm sticking with Franco's since it's done wonders for me on GB.
Using it on ICS now and it's stable and fast.
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i haven't try ICS yet, but in GB i suggest FRANCO , it's damn good
about battery , it happens to all smartphones ...
only you thing you can do for hard usage is buy an extra battery or extrenal power , thank god our phone's battery is replaceble not as iPhone which is UNreplaceble...
I like mathkid. I used franco on gingerbread but i feel mathkid 11.5 ics is better on ics
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I like mathkid. I used franco on gingerbread but i feel mathkid 11.5 ics is better on ics
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Hmmm, what's it like on the performance & stability side?
i think franco's kernel is good ..
Franco Kernel hands down.
He frequently updates his kernel usually on a weekly basis as of now and contains all of the power saving tweaks (Lazy Govenor, DEEP IDLE, BLX, TouchWake Live OC ... this guy is good) created by the creator of the GlaDOS kernel Ezeekel.
He does not have any debugging tools running in the background (as other kernels do) for optimal performance.
Any ideas regarding on best kernel and best cpu governor for my Nexus S i9023 Stock Rooted ICS 4.0.4? TIA
I use my phone for gaming, GPS for driving and for texting
Have a look for the threads by bedalus! He tested almost everything there is to test and made the results available for for everybody!
Ps. I use smartassv2!
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There is no "best" kernel. You're going to have to experiment and see what fits you the best for your needs. My needs are a phone that just works. I text, call, use GPS, listen to music and a ton of other stuff, with maybe a tiny bit of gaming. I use ondemand and never have any problems. Matr1x and Air Kernel both have many governors that should meet what you need out of your phone.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441905
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There is no "best" kernel. You're going to have to experiment and see what fits you the best for your needs. My needs are a phone that just works. I text, call, use GPS, listen to music and a ton of other stuff, with maybe a tiny bit of gaming. I use ondemand and never have any problems. Matr1x and Air Kernel both have many governors that should meet what you need out of your phone.
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^true. experience it is the best way to find out which one fit you. for me, i use CyberGR v14 with Matr1x v21.5 (sometime Air v4.3); 100/1200Mhz Ondemand + deadline (sometime SmartassV2 + noop) with deep idle. With that setting, i can last through a day with semi-heavy usage (wifi & 3G off; 3 hours of non 3D gaming; 2.5 hours of music; couple phone calls and 50 - 100 sms) and still have 20-ish percent left when i get home (my work day is in the range of 12 - 13 hours). the performance are great, stable, and smooth. there're some freeze here and there (twice/week, not a biggie) but without it, i just can't feel like i'm using a rooted phone tho LOL. So go to this thread, and try 'em all, you can find something that fits you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721856
i'm using air 4.3 + smartassv2 on cybergr... working smooth
Good choices for close-to-stock kernels are simple kernel by Terry Hau and thalamus kernel, but even if you want to run stock, you don't have to have a stock like kernel. Try them all, see which ones you prefer. It doesn't take long to flash a kernel. You could sample them all in a day!
Air Kernel - governor ondemand - CPU min. 200 Mhz, max 1200.
I was wondering which CPU settings / governor everyone else is using on their Skyrocket. I'm running the official CM9 nightlies, and am currently using a 1188/384mhz combo with the conservative governor. Battery life is OK, but isn't as great as it was with Sky ICS. I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestion on how to improve it.
Thanks!
i suggest you use the app set cpu. with it you can make profiles that change your cpu level depending on factors like if your screen is off or if your phone is charging. it really helps with battery life
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mhuang.overclocking&hl=en
it all about the $$$$
lets see what it will cost me i have a thrill, a sr , do i need another phone ..yes!! but i also need other things too. like food and gas it all about do i have extra capital to drop an a new toy. my partner at work still has a unrooted g1 it makes me sad.
Try testing this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721235
I currently have mine on 192/1512 will see how it goes testing it for a full day but so far its a little less draining than the original (at least for me).