Hey everyone-just wondering what your preferred regimen for backups/restores is when using tibu. I backup all modified data for my apps nightly, but I don't really play with user data for the sake of conflicts when flashing between ROMs. Can anyone provide me with some insight as to how to keep as much system data as possible between ROM flashes(ie my email accounts, WiFi access points, some system settings, etc) that arent likely to conflict with other ROMs (so long as they're on the same version of Android)?
Just wondering if there's an optimal backup/restore regimen I'm unaware of.
Thanks guys!
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Subscribed! Same questions have been running through my head.
System data will potentially corrupt your system, from one base (ROM) to the other. Wiping data is necessary to prevent bugs and glitches.
If you are flashing an update to an already installed ROM, you can forgo the data wipe (factory reset), and wipe only: cache, dalvik, and system. This will keep your data intact.
Doing a factory reset on occasion after several flashes, will clean up some potential problems.
Wiping SD card, internal and external, will also help with any potential problems. If wiping SD card you should only have to save media (pix, music, video) and any docs to your PC. Then format card, then add back your media and docs. You should notice better performance.
Wiping data can be necessary, a part of flashing ROMs. As far as TiBu I backup everything. When restoring you have the option to restore data or not. If you are restoring from a different ROM choose to only restore app.
ChillFactorz said:
System data will potentially corrupt your system, from one base (ROM) to the other. Wiping data is necessary to prevent bugs and glitches.
If you are flashing an update to an already installed ROM, you can forgo the data wipe (factory reset), and wipe only: cache, dalvik, and system. This will keep your data intact.
Doing a factory reset on occasion after several flashes, will clean up some potential problems.
Wiping SD card, internal and external, will also help with any potential problems. If wiping SD card you should only have to save media (pix, music, video) and any docs to your PC. Then format card, then add back your media and docs. You should notice better performance.
Wiping data can be necessary, a part of flashing ROMs. As far as TiBu I backup everything. When restoring you have the option to restore data or not. If you are restoring from a different ROM choose to only restore app.
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Well I appreciate the reply, but this is all stuff I'm aware of. However if what you're saying is that nobody out there really bothers with restoring any system data from one base to another, then that answers my question and what I'm already doing is the best way to go.
Thanks.
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Well I appreciate the reply, but this is all stuff I'm aware of. However if what you're saying is that nobody out there really bothers with restoring any system data from one base to another, then that answers my question and what I'm already doing is the best way to go.
Thanks.
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No one restores system data unless they want problems.
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Exporting sms and call log is the only thing I've ever need. I was extremely happy the day they added that.
I don't even backup app data anymore. Except for 2 authenticators I use. I prefer to keep as much stuff on cloud storage as possible. I trust my SR and ROM, I just don't trust myself.
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Help...no matter which rom i try i cant get any downloads to work...sorry, let me clarify...my market downloads work fine but any downloads form the web fail.
Any thoughts on what to change to fix this? it wasnt always this way...i dont know whats changed that crosses roms.
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It appears two be a two part issue, some of it is the Download Manager and at least part of the issue was with the Calibre App i was trying to DL from. Specifically, I was accessing the Calibre net share component. When a password is set on the share the gtab download manager is unable to correctly request downloads. I removed the uid/pwd and downloads work again. With the uid/pwd in place logs show an http 401 error.
Now to determine why...
In recovery are you wiping everything? Cause that was my issue at first and I was crossing roms lol
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I had the same issue when I tried the notion adam browser.
I just reapplied my rom.
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I had the same issue when I tried the notion adam browser.
I just reapplied my rom.
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That's what i tried first...no joy. Then i wiped caches and stuff and now i've compunded the issue...titanium doesn't see any apps or OS componets...i cant restore what i had.
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That's what i tried first...no joy. Then i wiped caches and stuff and now i've compunded the issue...titanium doesn't see any apps or OS componets...i cant restore what i had.
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When you say you wiped cache and stuff, did you wipe user data as well? If so, then that would explain why Titanium can't see your previous backup (It stores it in internal storage by default).
If that is the case, and you have wiped the data partition, your best bet would be to start over and reload your ROM from scratch.
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When you say you wiped cache and stuff, did you wipe user data as well? If so, then that would explain why Titanium can't see your previous backup (It stores it in internal storage by default).
If that is the case, and you have wiped the data partition, your best bet would be to start over and reload your ROM from scratch.
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As long as Darkeyce didn't perform a NVIDIA flash or repartition the drive, the backup data should still be there. I've loaded many custom roms by wiping cache and data (factory reset), and all I had to do was reinstall Titanium Backup and restore my apps.
I had the same problem yesterday on my Vegan GTab. GMail wouldn't work either, and my Nook app wouldn't sync with my online account. I didn't try any fix but after shutting down the device last night, I fired it up this morning and everything was working fine.
BigJohn89 said:
When you say you wiped cache and stuff, did you wipe user data as well? If so, then that would explain why Titanium can't see your previous backup (It stores it in internal storage by default).
If that is the case, and you have wiped the data partition, your best bet would be to start over and reload your ROM from scratch.
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Fixed the TB issues...that was related to the Keramides file...deleted it and all teh TG data came back...but i STIll have the download issue.
All the cache wipes were done, including the user data but that didnt impact the backups.
Does one need to wipe all their data if they were to flash a custom ROM for the first time on their phone? Can just wiping the dalvik cache be enough?
Your input will be much appreciated
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Does one need to wipe all their data if they were to flash a custom ROM for the first time on their phone? Can just wiping the dalvik cache be enough?
Your input will be much appreciated
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Always safer to wipe it all. That keeps ghost errors from popping up.
Always wipe all m8 cause u can experience lot of problems like me when I flash new kernel and didn't do wipe and I have problems with battery measure after wipe it was good.
Its always a cleaner and faster Tom to wipe all and it gives u a chance to test the rom alone and report back on bugs if any.
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You can use Titanium backup or something similar to backup the apps & data. That way setting it back up after wiping isn't as difficult/time consuming.
Just don't restore system data & I personally like restoring each app individually.
As far as it concerns backup apps : I prefer backing up the preferences of the most complex apps from inside the app on sd card instead of using titanium or others. In my case, this is only necessary for about 5 apps. The rest has no special or complex individual preferences. The reason : restoring apps completely via titanium or others may cause problems. Recently I had a bug after restoring go launcher with "my backup root". Only a fresh installation helped.
For reinstalling the apps themselves I find it pretty easy to go to my apps library in the market on the PC and reinstall them using the service that sends them directly to the phone.
All in all I deem it cleaner not to restore apps!
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Thanks everybody for the good advice
This question stems from a few niggling performance/lag issues on my Samsung Focus which I think will be cured by a fresh official ROM flash, but I do not want to lose any of my personal data.
I presume that when flashing a ROM, all data is lost. How can I essentially restore the lost data on the phone?
Can I backup using WP7 backup v1.9 (found on these forums) and then restore? Would this negate the point of the flash? What files are not backed up/restored (system files)?
Thanks,
jt
jt3204 said:
This question stems from a few niggling performance/lag issues on my Samsung Focus which I think will be cured by a fresh official ROM flash, but I do not want to lose any of my personal data.
I presume that when flashing a ROM, all data is lost. How can I essentially restore the lost data on the phone?
Can I backup using WP7 backup v1.9 (found on these forums) and then restore? Would this negate the point of the flash? What files are not backed up/restored (system files)?
Thanks,
jt
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If you set zune to back up everything then all of your pictures and music is on your computer (Note: your ringtones will be gone). Your documents should be on Sky Drive unless you saved them localy, if so you can move them Sky Drive, your games and apps can be re-installed using either the Market Place or the re-installer app.
Thanks for the tip. I was already aware of those possibilities.
I think the SMS restore is a bit of an issue. From what I've read the only program available isn't perfect yet, so that leaves a complete backup/restore as the only option to preserve my messages.
This begs the question as to whether flashing then restoring a backup is a pointless exercise.
The sms tool , is this one you are talking about ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1448197
Flashing and then restoring from a previous backup will not work. Backup is a complete image, it wipes out anything else.
Do I have to do anything special to flash back to Hyperdrive? I'm sick of using all these 4.4.2 roms that have so many issues. I just need to go back to Hyperdrive. It ran so smooth and I do not understand why I switched in the first place anymore.
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Do I have to do anything special to flash back to Hyperdrive? I'm sick of using all these 4.4.2 roms that have so many issues. I just need to go back to Hyperdrive. It ran so smooth and I do not understand why I switched in the first place anymore.
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I would do a normal clean wipe, but add in format sd card to get rid of your 0 folder. Transfer everything you need to off of your internal sd card, and move it back after a flash.
Wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, factory reset, format system, format internal sd card, flash rom.
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I would do a normal clean wipe, but add in format sd card to get rid of your 0 folder. Transfer everything you need to off of your internal sd card, and move it back after a flash.
Wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, factory reset, format system, format internal sd card, flash rom.
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I'm going to back up everything now, but is this something you've done before? or are you speaking from a theoretical stance?
Also, you say transfer everything off SD Card then you refer to internal SD card. Are you suggesting I flash the internal SD? I dunno about that.
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I'm going to back up everything now, but is this something you've done before? or are you speaking from a theoretical stance?
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Never done it because I've always been on 4.1.2. I can't speak from experience.
But basically the way 4.1 and 4.3 or above hold files are different. Since you already 4.4, you have a folder in data/media/0 that has all of the data you are currently using. 4.1 uses data/media to hold all of your data.
Theoretically, if you don't use titanium backup to restore your apps and data you shouldn't have any issues, but you will begin to accumulate duplicated data from apps over time because the data will be stored in a completely different location. If you use titanium backup to restore data, you may get app conflicts because you really have the exact same app information in 2 different places.
If you wipe your sd, you're starting on a clean slate and should avoid any conflicts. People constantly report lag, app conflicts, and miscellaneous files that take up all the storage on their device that they can't account for. All of those problems is due to this issue.
Edit: additionally, I would also use this same procedure to move from 4.1 back to 4.3, it has the same issues associated with it.
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Never done it because I've always been on 4.1.2. I can't speak from experience.
But basically the way 4.1 and 4.3 or above hold files are different. Since you already 4.4, you have a folder in data/media/0 that has all of the data you are currently using. 4.1 uses data/media to hold all of your data.
Theoretically, if you don't use titanium backup to restore your apps and data you shouldn't have any issues, but you will begin to accumulate duplicated data from apps over time because the data will be stored in a completely different location. If you use titanium backup to restore data, you may get app conflicts because you really have the exact same app information in 2 different places.
If you wipe your sd, you're starting on a clean slate and should avoid any conflicts. People constantly report lag, app conflicts, and miscellaneous files that take up all the storage on their device that they can't account for. All of those problems is due to this issue.
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Oh ok. I never use titanium. I just backup my SMS and redownload my apps. I only use a few. As for everything else I let google restore my data.
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Also, you say transfer everything off SD Card then you refer to internal SD card. Are you suggesting I flash the internal SD? I dunno about that.
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I don't get what you're saying here, if you wipe your internal SD then you have to have your rom on an external SD card.
Formatting your internal SD card will wipe everything off of it. Once you flash a rom, it'll repopulate all the folders you need in the locations it needs to, but your app data, pictures, and anything else you have on there will be gone. If you back up stuff, I'm just saying backup important stuff you don't want to lose like pictures or music. You can always put them back after the flash.
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Oh ok. I never use titanium. I just backup my SMS and redownload my apps. I only use a few. As for everything else I let google restore my data.
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Then just try to do a normal clean wipe, if you have issues it's likely due to those issues.
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Hello everyone
I'm considering installing another Rom but..I need to do factory reset, What I'm worried about is internal sdcard that has Roms and kernels also my music and other files if I factory reset would my internal sdcard be wiped?
I use a Sony Xperia P LT22i Android 4.2.1
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Any help please
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you should back up the data on a pc first if it does wipe it, like with my Galaxys2 it has 2gigs of ROM space and 16gigs of a internal SD. when i factory reset the stuff on the internal SD is not deleted, be sure to make a backup of it anyway.
ok thanks will do
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Hard app data onfactory wipe
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you should back up the data on a pc first if it does wipe it, like with my Galaxys2 it has 2gigs of ROM space and 16gigs of a internal SD. when i factory reset the stuff on the internal SD is not deleted, be sure to make a backup of it anyway.
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I have the opposite problem. I want to clear an mb886 of all application data. From Philz, I can do a factory wipe and as you stated the application data remains. I want all music, texts, call history, photos, bookmarks and caches etc..., all gone.
My preference is that the flash disk sectors be overwritten with random data, but a re-writing of the file structure (as in re-formatting) would be OK. Yes, I know the flash disk will churn the sectors complicating everything. I have found nothing in the Playstore that I trust to not f'up my phone
For starters, I would like to use Philz to clear my app data. I am reluctant to start unmounting and re-formatting everything in sight. I am concerned I could destroy important stuff like radio, modem configuration and such. I have not been able to find a list of what is stored where in the Android file system.
Thank you,
Ray
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I have the opposite problem. I want to clear an mb886 of all application data. From Philz, I can do a factory wipe and as you stated the application data remains. I want all music, texts, call history, photos, bookmarks and caches etc..., all gone.
My preference is that the flash disk sectors be overwritten with random data, but a re-writing of the file structure (as in re-formatting) would be OK. Yes, I know the flash disk will churn the sectors complicating everything. I have found nothing in the Playstore that I trust to not f'up my phone
For starters, I would like to use Philz to clear my app data. I am reluctant to start unmounting and re-formatting everything in sight. I am concerned I could destroy important stuff like radio, modem configuration and such. I have not been able to find a list of what is stored where in the Android file system.
Thank you,
Ray
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i could be entirely wrong but i think you should just wipe data plug it into a pc and when the storage comes up delete everything there. as for text messages and such you would have to delete it all yourself or if its stored on the sim card, remove the sim card.