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Apps on sd card issues

I've been having a problem as of late and I was hoping maybe someone could offer some explanation, advice, etc.
Last Friday, after a full wipe, I flashed Liquid Gingerbread 3.0 after running 2.6 forever. I use My Backup Pro to backup and restore app data. I do not use it for anything else (no system data, etc.). I installed all my Apps from apks I had, then restored app data with My Backup Pro.
I then proceeded to move apps to sd with Apps2sd like I usually do. Everything seemed to be okay until I noticed a while later that apps moved to the card started disappearing, but the app data was remaining on the sd and the coms were still listed as installed. I uninstalled Apps2sd and reinstalled the apps, noticing that large apps (10 + mb) were installing directly to the sd. I checked the settings and made sure internal was set for app installations and tried again. Large apps were still installing directly to the sd.
Thinking that maybe I didn't wipe properly (lol) I did another full wipe (system, data, cache, davlik) and reflashed LGB 3.0. I did the same process as above with installing and restoring app data. I rebooted my phone to find that large Apps were still installing directly to the sd, and still disappearing and still leaving behind data on the sd.
I thought it was a ROM issue at this point so I did another full wipe and flashed iBolt 0.9. Still having the same problem so I know it's my phone.
I have a few ideas of what is happening but I don't know how to fix it. Is there something on my sd card that is affecting the way apps are installed? Is there a cm7 setting I'm missing somewhere that is affecting it? Are my wipes somehow leaving behind remnants? I know this is long but I was trying to be as specific as possible in hopes of some feedback. If someone has any ideas as to what is happening I'll try anything to see if it fixes it.
My apologies if there is a thread about this already here but Tapatalk search is seriously lacking.
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[Q] CWM Backups not restoring

I have made multiple backups, but none of them will seem to restore properly. It always fails while restoring system! Any ideas? This is kind of a problem, as when I bootlooped yesterday, I had to wipe data and reinstall my rom.

Did you try clearing data, cache and dalvik cache before restoring?
What rom were u coming from?

eL_MeXiCaNo said:
Did you try clearing data, cache and dalvik cache before restoring?
What rom were u coming from?
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I have cleared everything, did this from supercharged and Sonya, and possibly stock, but I don't remember

Maybe you have a corrupt SD card and it's not backing up correctly? Did you change the names of the folders?
Because if you came from stock and tried to restore and it didn't work then there must be a physical problem because it sounds you have tried every software method.
You can always send the backed up data to me and ll try to restore it. If it restores for me then theres a software problem on your end, if it doesnt that means your backup got corrupted somehow

eL_MeXiCaNo said:
Maybe you have a corrupt SD card and it's not backing up correctly? Did you change the names of the folders?
Because if you came from stock and tried to restore and it didn't work then there must be a physical problem because it sounds you have tried every software method.
You can always send the backed up data to me and ll try to restore it. If it restores for me then theres a software problem on your end, if it doesnt that means your backup got corrupted somehow
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can I just send you /system? I don't want you to have my data
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haha yea, thats what I meant, I don't need the data, the system is what counts

eL_MeXiCaNo said:
haha yea, thats what I meant, I don't need the data, the system is what counts
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Thanks, i'll PM you with a link to download it.

Are there any settings in CWM that could effect this? just an idea as this is drivng me insane and seems to be a problem that only I have. should I wipe the system partition before restoring? or is that a bad idea.

Still having problem
Just want to get this back up top since I'm still having this problem. since others were able to restore it I think it is something on my end. I am working on my reviews project so I want this working, so I am kind of desperate for help. I get this feeling that it is going to be something really simple, but someone please help me.

It might be your SD card. Try backing up your files, and then formatting the card. Then boot into CWM, make a backup, and try to recover it.

I've been putting off formatting since I have 25 GB of music that takes a while to transfer but maybe I'll try
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lkrasner said:
I've been putting off formatting since I have 25 GB of music that takes a while to transfer but maybe I'll try
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Just curious, exactly what erros do you encounter?

farshad525hou said:
Just curious, exactly what erros do you encounter?
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Failed to restore /system

lkrasner said:
Failed to restore /system
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interesting... Never had that happen to me before.

formatting my sdcard now, it's going to take a few hours to transfer all my stuff back (30+ GB), but i'll kep you updated, hopefully this works so I can try out all the roms for my review thread, then come back to where I am now.
EDIT: just realized I never even formatted the card when I got it as it is now named "MOT" so maybe the phone just didn't like that. transferring back now at 2.8 MB/s does that seem slow? or is it normal. anyways, do the math, this may take a while.

lkrasner said:
formatting my sdcard now, it's going to take a few hours to transfer all my stuff back (30+ GB), but i'll kep you updated, hopefully this works so I can try out all the roms for my review thread, then come back to where I am now.
EDIT: just realized I never even formatted the card when I got it as it is now named "MOT" so maybe the phone just didn't like that. transferring back now at 2.8 MB/s does that seem slow? or is it normal. anyways, do the math, this may take a while.
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:\ One of the corrupt files might have been transfered off your sd card, so right now you may be re-adding corrupt files to it. Are you moving or copy+pasting?

If you allow the phone to format the phone (which is what I do) it will name the SD card "MOT".
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cogeary said:
:\ One of the corrupt files might have been transfered off your sd card, so right now you may be re-adding corrupt files to it. Are you moving or copy+pasting?
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Cut+ paste. I will try before adding the music to make sure. the rest only took 10 minutes. If it fails I will transfer less and see if I can figure it out.

Still having problem
this time it got most of the way through restoring system then failed. any ideas. could it be a corrupt system file.

If you're using Sonya with the built in CWM, you can install Rom Manager and flash the Bionic recovery. Plus that gives you one click back up and restore through Rom Manager.

Titanium Backup Regimens?

Hey everyone-just wondering what your preferred regimen for backups/restores is when using tibu. I backup all modified data for my apps nightly, but I don't really play with user data for the sake of conflicts when flashing between ROMs. Can anyone provide me with some insight as to how to keep as much system data as possible between ROM flashes(ie my email accounts, WiFi access points, some system settings, etc) that arent likely to conflict with other ROMs (so long as they're on the same version of Android)?
Just wondering if there's an optimal backup/restore regimen I'm unaware of.
Thanks guys!
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Subscribed! Same questions have been running through my head.

System data will potentially corrupt your system, from one base (ROM) to the other. Wiping data is necessary to prevent bugs and glitches.
If you are flashing an update to an already installed ROM, you can forgo the data wipe (factory reset), and wipe only: cache, dalvik, and system. This will keep your data intact.
Doing a factory reset on occasion after several flashes, will clean up some potential problems.
Wiping SD card, internal and external, will also help with any potential problems. If wiping SD card you should only have to save media (pix, music, video) and any docs to your PC. Then format card, then add back your media and docs. You should notice better performance.
Wiping data can be necessary, a part of flashing ROMs. As far as TiBu I backup everything. When restoring you have the option to restore data or not. If you are restoring from a different ROM choose to only restore app.

ChillFactorz said:
System data will potentially corrupt your system, from one base (ROM) to the other. Wiping data is necessary to prevent bugs and glitches.
If you are flashing an update to an already installed ROM, you can forgo the data wipe (factory reset), and wipe only: cache, dalvik, and system. This will keep your data intact.
Doing a factory reset on occasion after several flashes, will clean up some potential problems.
Wiping SD card, internal and external, will also help with any potential problems. If wiping SD card you should only have to save media (pix, music, video) and any docs to your PC. Then format card, then add back your media and docs. You should notice better performance.
Wiping data can be necessary, a part of flashing ROMs. As far as TiBu I backup everything. When restoring you have the option to restore data or not. If you are restoring from a different ROM choose to only restore app.
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Well I appreciate the reply, but this is all stuff I'm aware of. However if what you're saying is that nobody out there really bothers with restoring any system data from one base to another, then that answers my question and what I'm already doing is the best way to go.
Thanks.

stevenavm said:
Well I appreciate the reply, but this is all stuff I'm aware of. However if what you're saying is that nobody out there really bothers with restoring any system data from one base to another, then that answers my question and what I'm already doing is the best way to go.
Thanks.
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No one restores system data unless they want problems.
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Exporting sms and call log is the only thing I've ever need. I was extremely happy the day they added that.
I don't even backup app data anymore. Except for 2 authenticators I use. I prefer to keep as much stuff on cloud storage as possible. I trust my SR and ROM, I just don't trust myself.
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Slim Kat 4.4.2 to Hyperdrive 4.1.2 ?

Do I have to do anything special to flash back to Hyperdrive? I'm sick of using all these 4.4.2 roms that have so many issues. I just need to go back to Hyperdrive. It ran so smooth and I do not understand why I switched in the first place anymore.

GlitchMob said:
Do I have to do anything special to flash back to Hyperdrive? I'm sick of using all these 4.4.2 roms that have so many issues. I just need to go back to Hyperdrive. It ran so smooth and I do not understand why I switched in the first place anymore.
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I would do a normal clean wipe, but add in format sd card to get rid of your 0 folder. Transfer everything you need to off of your internal sd card, and move it back after a flash.
Wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, factory reset, format system, format internal sd card, flash rom.
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BadUsername said:
I would do a normal clean wipe, but add in format sd card to get rid of your 0 folder. Transfer everything you need to off of your internal sd card, and move it back after a flash.
Wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, factory reset, format system, format internal sd card, flash rom.
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I'm going to back up everything now, but is this something you've done before? or are you speaking from a theoretical stance?

Also, you say transfer everything off SD Card then you refer to internal SD card. Are you suggesting I flash the internal SD? I dunno about that.

GlitchMob said:
I'm going to back up everything now, but is this something you've done before? or are you speaking from a theoretical stance?
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Never done it because I've always been on 4.1.2. I can't speak from experience.
But basically the way 4.1 and 4.3 or above hold files are different. Since you already 4.4, you have a folder in data/media/0 that has all of the data you are currently using. 4.1 uses data/media to hold all of your data.
Theoretically, if you don't use titanium backup to restore your apps and data you shouldn't have any issues, but you will begin to accumulate duplicated data from apps over time because the data will be stored in a completely different location. If you use titanium backup to restore data, you may get app conflicts because you really have the exact same app information in 2 different places.
If you wipe your sd, you're starting on a clean slate and should avoid any conflicts. People constantly report lag, app conflicts, and miscellaneous files that take up all the storage on their device that they can't account for. All of those problems is due to this issue.
Edit: additionally, I would also use this same procedure to move from 4.1 back to 4.3, it has the same issues associated with it.
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BadUsername said:
Never done it because I've always been on 4.1.2. I can't speak from experience.
But basically the way 4.1 and 4.3 or above hold files are different. Since you already 4.4, you have a folder in data/media/0 that has all of the data you are currently using. 4.1 uses data/media to hold all of your data.
Theoretically, if you don't use titanium backup to restore your apps and data you shouldn't have any issues, but you will begin to accumulate duplicated data from apps over time because the data will be stored in a completely different location. If you use titanium backup to restore data, you may get app conflicts because you really have the exact same app information in 2 different places.
If you wipe your sd, you're starting on a clean slate and should avoid any conflicts. People constantly report lag, app conflicts, and miscellaneous files that take up all the storage on their device that they can't account for. All of those problems is due to this issue.
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Oh ok. I never use titanium. I just backup my SMS and redownload my apps. I only use a few. As for everything else I let google restore my data.

GlitchMob said:
Also, you say transfer everything off SD Card then you refer to internal SD card. Are you suggesting I flash the internal SD? I dunno about that.
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I don't get what you're saying here, if you wipe your internal SD then you have to have your rom on an external SD card.
Formatting your internal SD card will wipe everything off of it. Once you flash a rom, it'll repopulate all the folders you need in the locations it needs to, but your app data, pictures, and anything else you have on there will be gone. If you back up stuff, I'm just saying backup important stuff you don't want to lose like pictures or music. You can always put them back after the flash.
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GlitchMob said:
Oh ok. I never use titanium. I just backup my SMS and redownload my apps. I only use a few. As for everything else I let google restore my data.
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Then just try to do a normal clean wipe, if you have issues it's likely due to those issues.
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Stuck in recovery after rom update

Hello,
I just updated the rom Evolution X 11 on my Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro after using an older version for about half a year.
Now my phone does not boot anymore, its stuck in recovery (TWRP). Also all data seems to be encrypted and TWRP is not asking for a password.
Is there a way to get my phone to boot again or at least backup my data before I do a full wipe?

You should always do a full twrp backup before messing with roms.
The best solution would be to backup the "Data" and "Internal Storage" partitions. Data contains all apps, their appdata and settings, while internal storage contains all of your own files (photos, videos etc.). After you back these up, wipe your phone (system, data, cache, dalvik) and flash the version of evolution x you were using previously. Now restore data and internal storage and your device should be back to normal.
If you get a bootloop while booting after restoring data and internal storage, then wipe the device again and this time flash evolution x, but only restore internal storage. This way, it should boot and you will be able to recover your files, though your apps will be gone.
If you only restore internal storage then it will no doubt boot up and you will have access to your files, but since you'll have already backed up the important stuff (data + internal storage), you might as well try restoring data as well, as there is no harm, and if the phone boots correctly after restoring both partitions, your phone will be as it was before your updated your rom.
This happened a while back to me with my J5, the issue was that I made a full TWRP backup, then began to test other roms. After I was done, I tried to restore my backup, but it would constantly fail. I sat down for a while, confused and sad about how my TWRP backup had failed me. I tried every solution I could think of, eventually this solution I've mentioned in the above paragraph came to my mind. Thank god for putting it into my mind, otherwise I would've lost a lot of stuff (mainly whatsapp chats which werent backed up, and a lot of apps which I took the time to pain-stakingly configure in the best way for my device).
Anyways, enough of my story, hope this helps you out! If it does, message back here and let us know, and also mark my post as the solution if it was able to help you, so that anyone else who stumbles upon this thread can be saved too!
Cheers!

PhotonIce said:
You should always do a full twrp backup before messing with roms.
The best solution would be to backup the "Data" and "Internal Storage" partitions. Data contains all apps, their appdata and settings, while internal storage contains all of your own files (photos, videos etc.). After you back these up, wipe your phone (system, data, cache, dalvik) and flash the version of evolution x you were using previously. Now restore data and internal storage and your device should be back to normal.
If you get a bootloop while booting after restoring data and internal storage, then wipe the device again and this time flash evolution x, but only restore internal storage. This way, it should boot and you will be able to recover your files, though your apps will be gone.
If you only restore internal storage then it will no doubt boot up and you will have access to your files, but since you'll have already backed up the important stuff (data + internal storage), you might as well try restoring data as well, as there is no harm, and if the phone boots correctly after restoring both partitions, your phone will be as it was before your updated your rom.
This happened a while back to me with my J5, the issue was that I made a full TWRP backup, then began to test other roms. After I was done, I tried to restore my backup, but it would constantly fail. I sat down for a while, confused and sad about how my TWRP backup had failed me. I tried every solution I could think of, eventually this solution I've mentioned in the above paragraph came to my mind. Thank god for putting it into my mind, otherwise I would've lost a lot of stuff (mainly whatsapp chats which werent backed up, and a lot of apps which I took the time to pain-stakingly configure in the best way for my device).
Anyways, enough of my story, hope this helps you out! If it does, message back here and let us know, and also mark my post as the solution if it was able to help you, so that anyone else who stumbles upon this thread can be saved too!
Cheers!
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Thank you for your help but backing up the data and internal storage doesnt seem possible right now because all the data is encrypted in TWRP...

If you can't backup anything, then wipe system, cache and dalvik, and flash the version of evolutionx you were previously using. Then boot, it should be fine. If it wont boot (give it some time, it will take the time of a fresh install), then this time wipe system+data+cache+dalvik, then flash whichever rom you like and you'll be able to access the files.
You can also try using platform tools and fastboot or adb ( i dont remember exactly which one) to copy the filess from your phone onto your pc.
Sorry if this doesn't apply to your situation, I've never used a phone which has been encrypted, as such I have no experience with them.

PhotonIce said:
If you can't backup anything, then wipe system, cache and dalvik, and flash the version of evolutionx you were previously using. Then boot, it should be fine. If it wont boot (give it some time, it will take the time of a fresh install), then this time wipe system+data+cache+dalvik, then flash whichever rom you like and you'll be able to access the files.
You can also try using platform tools and fastboot or adb ( i dont remember exactly which one) to copy the filess from your phone onto your pc.
Sorry if this doesn't apply to your situation, I've never used a phone which has been encrypted, as such I have no experience with them.
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That sounds like a good idea. I found the old version on my PC.
Now I just need a way to install it... because twrp cant read the file. I tried with adb sideload but that results in an error for some reason. Flashing Magisk for example with adb sideload is possible.
Edit: Got it to work by using a tool called "Large Address Aware". Now waiting for the results...

PhotonIce said:
If you can't backup anything, then wipe system, cache and dalvik, and flash the version of evolutionx you were previously using. Then boot, it should be fine. If it wont boot (give it some time, it will take the time of a fresh install), then this time wipe system+data+cache+dalvik, then flash whichever rom you like and you'll be able to access the files.
You can also try using platform tools and fastboot or adb ( i dont remember exactly which one) to copy the filess from your phone onto your pc.
Sorry if this doesn't apply to your situation, I've never used a phone which has been encrypted, as such I have no experience with them.
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This did not help unfortunately... Im still in the same recovery-bootloop and my data is still encrypted.

It's probably still bootlooping as the data partition got modified when you flashed the newer version of evolutionx, and now it will not work with the old one. You can try wiping system+data+cach+dalvik and then flashing any rom of your choice. This will give you access to your internal storage (photos, media etc), but it will remove your apps and their settings. Whatsapp images are stored in the internal storage so you won't need to worry about those.
Again, this is risky, as it may not work (I don't know much about encryption), or you might still not be able to access your files after flashing the new rom. Proceed at your own risk.

PhotonIce said:
It's probably still bootlooping as the data partition got modified when you flashed the newer version of evolutionx, and now it will not work with the old one. You can try wiping system+data+cach+dalvik and then flashing any rom of your choice. This will give you access to your internal storage (photos, media etc), but it will remove your apps and their settings. Whatsapp images are stored in the internal storage so you won't need to worry about those.
Again, this is risky, as it may not work (I don't know much about encryption), or you might still not be able to access your files after flashing the new rom. Proceed at your own risk.
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Thank you for still helping me out but I already did a full reset yesterday. I did not lose much except for the time setting it all up again.
I still dont really get the point of encrypting all your data if you cant decrypt it even if you know the password...