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[Q] Why does changing roms deletes everything

When ever I change roms it deletes all backups, and even deletes clockwork mod recovery. I have no idea what is going on. This didn't happen on my gnex. I have a 2 gig memory card in it. How can I put all backups and recovery on the card? It deletes the rom folder I create to put all the roms in. I have to create the folder every time I change roms. This is anoying as hell. Please help. Thanks

wily5150 said:
When ever I change roms it deletes all backups, and even deletes clockwork mod recovery. I have no idea what is going on. This didn't happen on my gnex. I have a 2 gig memory card in it. How can I put all backups and recovery on the card? It deletes the rom folder I create to put all the roms in. I have to create the folder every time I change roms. This is anoying as hell. Please help. Thanks
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I think your doing something wrong because it shouldn't do that, what ROM hase it done that in? And what at our steps to flashing? As to backups on your sd car when you go to backup there an option to back up to external so card.
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I was running jellywiz, and I flashed the executioner. I had to reinstall cwm. And I had to create the roms folder again, the folder where I keep my downloaded roms. As for flashing roms, I do a factory reset, wipe davlik, and cache. It's kind of annoying having to recreate everything. Thanks

wily5150 said:
When ever I change roms it deletes all backups, and even deletes clockwork mod recovery. I have no idea what is going on. This didn't happen on my gnex. I have a 2 gig memory card in it. How can I put all backups and recovery on the card? It deletes the rom folder I create to put all the roms in. I have to create the folder every time I change roms. This is anoying as hell. Please help. Thanks
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Did you flash a 4.2 ROM??? It does that if you don't use an updated recovery.

You are definitely doing something wrong because that is not expected behavior.
A 2GB SD card is ridiculously undersized for backups. A single nandroid or TiBu would likely take all of that space if it even fit. Perhaps it's failing to backup to the external card and defaulting back to internal memory?

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bobloblaw1 said:
You are definitely doing something wrong because that is not expected behavior.
A 2GB SD card is ridiculously undersized for backups. A single nandroid or TiBu would likely take all of that space if it even fit. Perhaps it's failing to backup to the external card and defaulting back to internal memory?
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I would recommend at least a 16G sdcard. You need that much to stores backups, stock boot rom, custom rom, and you data files to restore. Things like contacts, calendar, etc should always be backed up before you install custom ROM.
CWM is a good boot loader to use as it provides many options and also use something like Titanium backup as your backup manager.

If you do a data reset from the updated recovery will it delete the directory on the internal SDCard where the backup of the stock ROM is?

EFighter said:
If you do a data reset from the updated recovery will it delete the directory on the internal SDCard where the backup of the stock ROM is?
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yes it does

EFighter said:
If you do a data reset from the updated recovery will it delete the directory on the internal SDCard where the backup of the stock ROM is?
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What recovery are you talking about? If it's cwm touch no it doesn't! I factory reset every time I flash a new ROM (and I'll flash a couple a day sometimes) the only way you'll delete those in recovery is if you manually delete a backup or if you go under the mounts and storage menu and format internal SD card.
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kintwofan said:
What recovery are you talking about? If it's cwm touch no it doesn't! I factory reset every time I flash a new ROM (and I'll flash a couple a day sometimes) the only way you'll delete those in recovery is if you manually delete a backup or if you go under the mounts and storage menu and format internal SD card.
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So I am talking about the clockworkmod stock rom backup. When I backup it puts the backup in the following location which I will call LocA:
/mnt/sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/
This is not my SD card tho. My external SDCard is located at which I will call LocB:
/mnt/extSdCard/
But I also have which I will call LocC:
/sdcard/
I when I go to look at the ‘Phone’ while connected to USB I can see LocA and see the backups, when I use the app SDCard Manager I can go to LocC and I can see that they mirror each other. Why is my stuff duplicated? It is wasting space?
Also when I boot into CWM recovery the menu that says load from SD card actually points to LocA. My fear is that since LocA is really internal memory that a factory reset will delete this and since CWM recovery cant see LocB that I will be locked out. In other words cant load the backup of the mod or the new downloaded CM10.

EFighter said:
So I am talking about the clockworkmod stock rom backup. When I backup it puts the backup in the following location which I will call LocA:
/mnt/sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/
This is not my SD card tho. My external SDCard is located at which I will call LocB:
/mnt/extSdCard/
But I also have which I will call LocC:
/sdcard/
I when I go to look at the ‘Phone’ while connected to USB I can see LocA and see the backups, when I use the app SDCard Manager I can go to LocC and I can see that they mirror each other. Why is my stuff duplicated? It is wasting space?
Also when I boot into CWM recovery the menu that says load from SD card actually points to LocA. My fear is that since LocA is really internal memory that a factory reset will delete this and since CWM recovery cant see LocB that I will be locked out. In other words cant load the backup of the mod or the new downloaded CM10.
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Okay gotcha, a factory reset does not delete your internal memory. What it deletes is your user apps, settings, etc. That is the same place mine is backed up to and like I said I factory reset every flash. However, if you're really worried about under the backup option in cwm select backup to external SD card.
As for the sd card 0 and SD card. I don't believe there are really two files of everything. I believe it's more just naming for the android system, but maybe someone else can confirm this for me
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kintwofan said:
Okay gotcha, a factory reset does not delete your internal memory. What it deletes is your user apps, settings, etc. That is the same place mine is backed up to and like I said I factory reset every flash. However, if you're really worried about under the backup option in cwm select backup to external SD card.
As for the sd card 0 and SD card. I don't believe there are really two files of everything. I believe it's more just naming for the android system, but maybe someone else can confirm this for me
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Thank you, Thank you, and Thank you for taking the time to answer that.
With that info im confident i wont get stuck in some limbo. During my lunch break ill try to flash CM10 again this time with a factory reset and see if i get further than the spinning logo.

I don't do the cwm touch. For some reason I can't find any roms that I've backed up, So I use the typical cwm. I don't know, maybe it's just me, I'm screwing up somewhere. But everytime I have to reinstall cwm. Thanks for the help

wily5150 said:
I don't do the cwm touch. For some reason I can't find any roms that I've backed up, So I use the typical cwm. I don't know, maybe it's just me, I'm screwing up somewhere. But everytime I have to reinstall cwm. Thanks for the help
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I am FAR from being an expert, but i had to reflash cwm everytime i restarted the phone until i flashed it and from the menu selected prevent stock recovery.

[Q] Is it possible to change ROMs and keep data?

Hi, I've been using MIUI 2.8.10 for months now but have finally decided to scrap it. It's extremely RAM hungry and the keyboard only recognizes about ten words in the English dictionary for some reason, so auto-correct is essentially non-existent. I'm quite surprised I've actually had the patience to keep up with it for so long; I suppose simply because it's so elegant.
But that's besides the point. I want to swap ROMs, probably to CyanogenMod or some other Jellybean ROM. Is it possible to do this without wiping the Data on my phone? Primarily my installed applications; I don't really care if my texts are lost or anything like that. I have heard of Carbon but I'm not sure if I can use that application to safely keep my applications when swapping ROMs. Nor do I know if it's even possible in the first place. I know you can temporarily swap ROMs by making a backup and later retrieving it, but I want to permanently drop MIUI, so that's out of the question.
TL;DR: Can I change ROMs an keep my installed applications and all the data on them? If so, how?
Thanks a lot in advance.

To avoid force-closes caused by data lingering from another build, the only proper way is to wipe both data and caches. Use titanium backup to save txts and applications. You can try to restore data for your apps as well but some might force close on a new rom. I'd restore data for all user-apps (games, audio/video players) then only wipe data/cache for apps that don't play nice with your new rom. In the end, you might not lose anything. Just don't restore data for ANYTHING system related, or you'll have problems. Time consuming, but it's worth it if you don't want to lose anything. Good luck.
Also, MIUI is the only rom I used on both my Droid x and Galaxy S2. Sadly your right, MIUI is very ram-hungry. I'd use it on my N7 if there was a proper tablet build though.
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FizzleDiz said:
To avoid force-closes caused by data lingering from another build, the only proper way is to wipe both data and caches. Use titanium backup to save txts and applications. You can try to restore data for your apps as well but some might force close on a new rom. I'd restore data for all user-apps (games, audio/video players) then only wipe data/cache for apps that don't play nice with your new rom. In the end, you might not lose anything. Just don't restore data for ANYTHING system related, or you'll have problems. Time consuming, but it's worth it if you don't want to lose anything. Good luck.
Also, MIUI is the only rom I used on both my Droid x and Galaxy S2. Sadly your right, MIUI is very ram-hungry. I'd use it on my N7 if there was a proper tablet build though.
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So you're saying if I were to install Titanium Backup I can trade ROMs without loosing App data? Save for the ones that don't fail, of course.
But... if Titanium Backup itself is an App, how does it protect itself from not being wiped? I know that's not really related to the thread but I've always wondered.
Despite, thanks for the reply.

Install TB now. Backup all user-apps+data. Make a nandroid backup. Once you wipe and install the new rom, download titanium backup from the play store again. All your backups are stored on the SD card under /???/titanium backup/. You'll only lose the backup folder containing your apps/data if you format your card or use a developers-tool which also completely wipes phones and cards with the goal of giving you a truly clean slate to flash a rom. Just read the recommend procedure for installing a specific rom. If only a data/cache wipe are needed, then your SD card *should* be safe. Install rom > install TB > Restore user-apps+data. Enjoy.
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Surpass said:
if Titanium Backup itself is an App, how does it protect itself from not being wiped? I know that's not really related to the thread but I've always wondered.
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It gets wiped, but the folder in your SD card with all the backups stay, unless you format/wipe the card itself.
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Just thought of something. It sounds like your app data is very important. Do this:
Install TB
Backup user-apps+data.... and txt messages and call logs if you want.
Connect to PC and transfer the whole TB folder for safe keeping.
Now you have a backup of your backups
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If your user apps and data are more important than your system settings, Titanium backup is for you.
The bugs I encountered were only with the settings and system apps.

Would it be possible to change ROM without rooting the phone? For instance, I can use TWRP to take a backup of data partition, install new rom, do full swipe, and then restore the data partition.
Would it work?
Thanks

Im using an unofficial Resurrection Remix for J3 and the phone can barely boot up at times, I wanna change it to LOS 13 or back to Touchwiz, Ill try the TB but if the phone cant boot, then what?

Fixong /0 foulder

SO I went to CM and then back to touchwiz and have the /0 foulder. I have my stuff backed up and was about to format internal storage, But have a question. Do i need to factory reset or reflash my ROM after doing the reset? And will this get rid of apps as well?

bsannes said:
SO I went to CM and then back to touchwiz and have the /0 foulder. I have my stuff backed up and was about to format internal storage, But have a question. Do i need to factory reset or reflash my ROM after doing the reset? And will this get rid of apps as well?
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Formating the internal SD will do nothing to the rom itself.
It will erase all of your app data though, like any save files you have for games and such, you'll basically be starting over clean. I would personally backup everything I wanted from the SD card, then clean install the rom with an internal storage format, then move everything I wanted back into the new folder location.
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[Q] Flashaholic Needs Memory

Hello,
I have flashed hundreds of Roms on my S3 until recently landing on the ML1 Rooted from Old&Slow. The problem is that I am running out of internal storage. This is partially due to the residual files left over from Roms, Apps & Stuff.
How can I clean it out? I don't want to go in and start deleting things....out of fear of deleting the wrong files and bricking.
Running TWRP. Can I format internal storage?
If I mess up, I would have to Odin back to MF1, root, unlock....blah, blah, blah.
Maybe that's what I should do regardless...I am still partially scared that the 4.3 update will sneak on before I can ulock, root etc.....
Any easier way?
Thanks!

Yes, format internal SD.
I would factory reset, clear cache, clear dalvik cache, format system, then format internal SD card, then reflash the rom.
Everything that's needed will get repopulated when you reflash the rom, just make sure the rom and your backups are on your external SD card.
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BadUsername said:
Yes, format internal SD.
I would factory reset, clear cache, clear dalvik cache, format system, then format internal SD card, then reflash the rom.
Everything that's needed will get repopulated when you reflash the rom, just make sure the rom and your backups are on your external SD card.
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Thanks, After formatting, could I restore a backup of the rom?
I have a lot of Mods in place and would prefer to not have to set it all up again.
Thanks!

ripdoozer said:
Thanks, After formatting, could I restore a backup of the rom?
I have a lot of Mods in place and would prefer to not have to set it all up again.
Thanks!
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Sure you can, but if you restore a backup it'll probably just rewrite everything the exact same way it was. But it might solve the problem.
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Factory Reset?...

Hello everyone
I'm considering installing another Rom but..I need to do factory reset, What I'm worried about is internal sdcard that has Roms and kernels also my music and other files if I factory reset would my internal sdcard be wiped?
I use a Sony Xperia P LT22i Android 4.2.1
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Any help please
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you should back up the data on a pc first if it does wipe it, like with my Galaxys2 it has 2gigs of ROM space and 16gigs of a internal SD. when i factory reset the stuff on the internal SD is not deleted, be sure to make a backup of it anyway.

ok thanks will do
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Hard app data onfactory wipe
Trozzul said:
you should back up the data on a pc first if it does wipe it, like with my Galaxys2 it has 2gigs of ROM space and 16gigs of a internal SD. when i factory reset the stuff on the internal SD is not deleted, be sure to make a backup of it anyway.
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I have the opposite problem. I want to clear an mb886 of all application data. From Philz, I can do a factory wipe and as you stated the application data remains. I want all music, texts, call history, photos, bookmarks and caches etc..., all gone.
My preference is that the flash disk sectors be overwritten with random data, but a re-writing of the file structure (as in re-formatting) would be OK. Yes, I know the flash disk will churn the sectors complicating everything. I have found nothing in the Playstore that I trust to not f'up my phone
For starters, I would like to use Philz to clear my app data. I am reluctant to start unmounting and re-formatting everything in sight. I am concerned I could destroy important stuff like radio, modem configuration and such. I have not been able to find a list of what is stored where in the Android file system.
Thank you,
Ray

rlillard said:
I have the opposite problem. I want to clear an mb886 of all application data. From Philz, I can do a factory wipe and as you stated the application data remains. I want all music, texts, call history, photos, bookmarks and caches etc..., all gone.
My preference is that the flash disk sectors be overwritten with random data, but a re-writing of the file structure (as in re-formatting) would be OK. Yes, I know the flash disk will churn the sectors complicating everything. I have found nothing in the Playstore that I trust to not f'up my phone
For starters, I would like to use Philz to clear my app data. I am reluctant to start unmounting and re-formatting everything in sight. I am concerned I could destroy important stuff like radio, modem configuration and such. I have not been able to find a list of what is stored where in the Android file system.
Thank you,
Ray
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i could be entirely wrong but i think you should just wipe data plug it into a pc and when the storage comes up delete everything there. as for text messages and such you would have to delete it all yourself or if its stored on the sim card, remove the sim card.