Replacing hTc Touch Pro's antenna with AT&T Fuze's - Touch Pro, Fuze General

I love my Touch Pro, and as having been having it for over 4 years, I would like to continue using it in U.S as I've just moved here. That's the reason for this thread.
I've been researching for a while and understand that the Fuze has similar parts comparing to the Touch Pro (except for the screen and mainboard as it lacks front-facing camera). So I want to know, is it possible to put the antenna of the Fuze to replace into my Touch Pro.
Any one who has any experience or any idea, even knowing any person who has experience on disassemble or replacing Touch Pro parts, please help me.
Thank you.

Have you checked the wiki?
HERE is a link to the device page in the wiki. I took the liberty to link you to the location on the page that I will further link you for the service manual as I have never attempted this.
HERE is the service manual provided from the wiki. In-case you rather just check out the service manual.

R^7Z said:
Have you checked the wiki?
HERE is a link to the device page in the wiki. I took the liberty to link you to the location on the page that I will further link you for the service manual as I have never attempted this.
HERE is the service manual provided from the wiki. In-case you rather just check out the service manual.
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thank you for such quick reply r^7z.
in fact, i do have the service manual for a while since my researches, and i've been reading it over and over. but i do not have tried to take the risk yet. as it does not says the specific part of the Fuze, just the Touch Pro parts in general. further more, i gotta know if it is possible, so i could go on ebay and purchase a broken fuze for parts, and also the tools kit. total will worth 50$ at least.
as i don't have any experience in this. i would love if someone could point the way out for me.
anyway, appreciate the help.
edit:
this is the thread i found http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2775270#post2775270

i am looking for a guide to disassemble the Fuze only. but i could only find guides about replacing the screen/digitizer, not a detailed disassembly.

hey said:
i am looking for a guide to disassemble the Fuze only. but i could only find guides about replacing the screen/digitizer, not a detailed disassembly.
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I think, you can look at http://www.mikechannon.net/page1.html

Additionally, try THIS link out. This link will take you to a translated frame-by-frame snapshot of dismantling the TouchPro/Raph. More specifically, take a look at steps #8 and #9
It looks like it can be done but be aware that if your device is still under warranty, doing this may void it.

it seems (through pictures) that the antenna is a part of the motherboard or some part of it (a big part). so if i replace it, i would have to replace to motherboard too.
also, normally if it is a individual part, there would be some replacements for it, but i am unable to find any on the web.
if it is a part of the motherboard then i'll guess this will fail. because the motherboard of the fuze and touch pro are different.
can anyone confirm this ? just tell me that's the antenna is a seperate part i'll be good on my way to do it then.
thank you.

So I decided to confirm whether the antenna was a part of the motherboard and the conclusion is no it is not. If needed (post and ask), I can provide pictures from my bricked at&t Fuze. :highfive:

R^7Z said:
So I decided to confirm whether the antenna was a part of the motherboard and the conclusion is no it is not. If needed (post and ask), I can provide pictures from my bricked at&t Fuze. :highfive:
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yes sir, can you just point out to me which is the antenna in the fuze ? (if you can do it without disassembly, otherwise i don't want to cost you your time to take it apart)
i want to press the thank button a million times more (if of course it appears a million times)
you are officially my savoir. have been stuck with my iPhone since i set my foot here.
and one more wonderful is, the antenna of the Fuze supports 850, 900, 1900, 2100. it means that it works both here in the U.S (850 with AT&T) and back in my country (Vietnam 2100 - if i ever go back home)
thank you, thank you sir. you just made my day.
:highfive: :victory:
edit: surfing ebay for a broken fuze with a happy face.

Snapshot of disconnected antenna P4600 - RAPH110 - RAPHAEL - AT&T FUZE
This is what a disconnected antenna looks like on the top half from the back:
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(Here is a close up view)
This is what a disconnected antenna looks like on the bottom half from the back:
(Here is a close up view)
Here is a side view:
NOTE Click on the attachments for an expanded view
n-Joie!

isn't it just the antenna flex cable itself ? not a chip ?
i thought the antenna suppose to be a chip or something similar.
if it is a cable, how it makes the difference in frequency ?
sorry for my ignorance and please correct me if i'm wrong.

I'm going by what it says from the snapshots. It could be just a cable but unless you know for a fact, we are left with only what we can verify. Sorry but that is all "I" currently have. You can try it out and see if it works or wait and see if someone else chimes in.

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I'm going by what it says from the snapshots. It could be just a cable but unless you know for a fact, we are left with only what we can verify. Sorry but that is all "I" currently have. You can try it out and see if it works or wait and see if someone else chimes in.
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sorry for that. i was just curious about it. dont know exactly how things work, just want to know a little bit more.
thank you a lot for your help, i appreciate it.
just bought a broken fuze on ebay, it will come in a couple of days and i will try it out.

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[Q] XT720 Disassemble?

I have 2 broken xt720's that I need to make one good one out of. I cant find anything on the web about how to disassemble this phone. I have repaired many iPhones, radios, computers but I just would like a guide on how this phone comes apart before attempting it. Thanks
Nobody even attempt to do it? I havent even looked at it yet...
seems like you'll be the first one to bodly go where no one has gone before
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you'll be our hero
please post lots of pictures and details after you open them up
Thanks
Will do. Thanks
marvinmadman said:
I have 2 broken xt720's that I need to make one good one out of. I cant find anything on the web about how to disassemble this phone. I have repaired many iPhones, radios, computers but I just would like a guide on how this phone comes apart before attempting it. Thanks
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I think I can get original Motorola guide for service centers on disassembling XT720. Will try to do it and will post the results here.
Took mine apart today...
its fairly simple and only 6 screws
two are exposed
two are partially exposed near the bottom
and two are hidden (under 8.0 xenon sticker and the other is under a screw sized sitcker in the corner by the lense)
Yeah I ended up just doing it. It wasnt bad. But I needed to changed the earpiece speaker which is attached to the line in jack, power button, and volume keys via a ribbon that is sticky taped around a thin edge of the case. It was a *****, but not that bad. Sorry I didnt take any pics. Too impatient.
Had the misfortune of breaking one of the SIM slot pins.
Hope you guys could help out here. How to remove the screws under :
a) Speaker Grill without damaging the grill
b) Stickers (beside the camera and the 8.0 label) without damaging them
thanks
danny
Both are sticky taped on. Grab under an edge and peel off.
Took apart mine yesterday and replaced the LCD , now the phone is not powering up , will take it to a shop here to see what happened
Xjester said:
Took apart mine yesterday and replaced the LCD , now the phone is not powering up , will take it to a shop here to see what happened
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Where do you get something like an XT720 fixed in isl? Blue area? Or do you take it somewhere in pindi...
HELP!!
Ha no one made a video of the disassembly yet!! I'm too scared to READ instructions and do it!! Can one of you please post a video just showing how to take the screws out..??!!
Thanks in advance
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harleyhemant said:
HELP!!
Ha no one made a video of the disassembly yet!! I'm too scared to READ instructions and do it!! Can one of you please post a video just showing how to take the screws out..??!!
Thanks in advance
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FOUND IT!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WCVqEMZbU0
Xjester said:
Took apart mine yesterday and replaced the LCD , now the phone is not powering up , will take it to a shop here to see what happened
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Hi, I have disassembled XT720, replaced digitizer then assembled back but I have to same issue - phone is not powering up. So I revert old digitzer back but the same ... I'm really sure that I make all of processes very precisely, no connectors are unplugged, everything is on right place ... everything is like before.
Is there any thing what I missed? Thank you for feedback.
nosretep said:
Hi, I have disassembled XT720, replaced digitizer then assembled back but I have to same issue - phone is not powering up. So I revert old digitzer back but the same ... I'm really sure that I make all of processes very precisely, no connectors are unplugged, everything is on right place ... everything is like before.
Is there any thing what I missed? Thank you for feedback.
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same happened to me...and some problem was with power button, but I didn't bother with it
try to connect charger and see what is happening
(I think that if you connect computer and phone it will boot up)

[Q] Wide or narrow flex cable ?

HTC Desire S
Purchased in Israel (eline)
P/N: 99HMN143-00
IMEI: 358967049XXXXXX
S/N: SH1AJTJXXXXX
I need to replace the display and I was thinking about buying this, however the site warns that there are two types of LCD flex cables - narrow and wide. Is there any way to know (without opening up the phone) whether I have the narrow or wide LCD flex cable ?
And if I do have to open the phone up, what is the minimum I need to do in order to determine the flex type (going by tutorials such as this,this or this)? Also, I don't have any reference, so even if I see the cable I'm not sure how I'll be able to tell whether it's the narrow or wide one ?
Thanks
It's never a good idea to publish imei numbers
Swyped from my DesireS
ben_pyett said:
It's never a good idea to publish imei numbers
Swyped from my DesireS
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Thanks, but as you can see I've censored the last 6 digits (5 in the s/n)
t0x1n said:
Thanks, but as you can see I've censored the last 6 digits (5 in the s/n)
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Why exactly do you need to know this about the flex cable? I'm just curious...
Oops, sorry..
Swyped from my DesireS
enigmaamit said:
Why exactly do you need to know this about the flex cable? I'm just curious...
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I need to buy the right display replacement according to the flex cable type. I thought that by providing the P/N, S/N and IMEI (the latter two in censored form, of course) I might provide enough information to deduce the type.
t0x1n said:
I need to buy the right display replacement according to the flex cable type. I thought that by providing the P/N, S/N and IMEI (the latter two in censored form, of course) I might provide enough information to deduce the type.
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I really don't know man... if i were you, i'd go to a local service centre and ask them how to determine which type of cable my phone uses... I know taht's not very helpful but that's all i could think of right now. I'll try to get more details and get back to you if i find something useful.
Sent from my PC without the XDA/Tapatalk app. Ha!!
The first of your tutorials, I believe at 2:30 you can see the flex connectors. So since you have to disassemble your phone anyway when the screen arrives, look at it as training
The question is - ok, you see the flex, how do you know if it's the "narrow" or the "wide" one, these aren't absolute terms. I suggest searching for some reference photos on the internet to be sure.
Jack_R1 said:
The first of your tutorials, I believe at 2:30 you can see the flex connectors. So since you have to disassemble your phone anyway when the screen arrives, look at it as training
The question is - ok, you see the flex, how do you know if it's the "narrow" or the "wide" one, these aren't absolute terms. I suggest searching for some reference photos on the internet to be sure.
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Thanks, good points
I think I found a pretty good reference (gotta love eBay):
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That's great! Since you'll have to take the phone apart to replace the digitizer anyway, i suggest you do it now, and see what cable you have... and order the appropriate one accordingly.
@t0x1n
This is really a use full information. Please let me know where from u got the narrow flex LCD+digitizer set.... i have broken mine and i need to fix it as well. looking for an early reply ...
somnath.trader said:
@t0x1n
This is really a use full information. Please let me know where from u got the narrow flex LCD+digitizer set.... i have broken mine and i need to fix it as well. looking for an early reply ...
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@somnath.trader
I think this is the digitizer I bought:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replacement...e_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item5d3db9cd39
It didn't work and I had to buy an LCD so I bought this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LCD-Screen-...-Desire-S-S510E-G12-Narrow-Flex-/310517355375
Neither worked for me, but it may be my fault for incorrect assembly, or the fault of the lab that tried to fix it.
So there is no way to know if for example my HTC Desire S have a Narrow or a Wide cable?
The only possible way to examine that is to tear the phone apart? ^^
Hmm, then i might need to buy this or something? :
General Cellphone Replacement Repair Open Tools ( +,-,T5,T6,Plastic Tools *2)
So there is no possible way by using the P/N or S/N to know if there is a Wide or Narrow cable?

[Q] [PARTS] Need Internal Antenna Cable! (HELP)

Does anyone know where I can get the internal antenna cable for our G2x? Had the screen replaced and now I get no reception , I can only use phone through WiFi Calling now. I believe the LG part no. is EAD61725901. I can't seem to find parts anywhere on internet. Is there an aftermarket/alternative cable I can use maybe?
Your help is appreciated, thanks in advance....
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Aw man, I broke this part around Christmas time and I ended up breaking my whole phone in the process of soldering it back together. I searched everywhere for it with no luck. I wish you better fortune than I.
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mustangtim49 said:
Aw man, I broke this part around Christmas time and I ended up breaking my whole phone in the process of soldering it back together. I searched everywhere for it with no luck. I wish you better fortune than I.
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Oh man... What happened when you tried to solder it. I tried that as well, but the phone still working... Just seems to be overheating, but that could be because it's searching for data maybe? I disabled mobile data, but still seems to be hot. Idling around 80-85 right now?
Just talk to stupid LG USA parts and they said they can't send me the part. I have to send in the phone for repair.... RRRrrrrrrRRRR
G2x I-PEX MHF antenna cable
Hope this helps:
The cable is micro-coax, The ends are terminated with a MHF connector, very commonly used in microelectronics. It is 75mm (7.5 cm) in length and has a fixed orientation. The following sites are suppliers that will be able to assist you in obtaining the correct cable and orientation.
search: Gradconn Corp
I would post a direct link but due to insufficient post I am unable.
WARNING
DO NOT even attempt a solder job without a stereoscopic microscope on ANY microelectronic PCB. The results are... see post #1. A solder job may work, but highly unlikely.
http://www.gradconn.com/rf-cable/rf-cable-assembly.asp
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Here's a place which sells one that is the same part number:
http://shop.euras.com/detailsseite.php?pic=D259653&&vgl=1&g7=2854364N
And, another place where it is cheaper:
http://www.eurosatonline.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=4030
Also try skystartrade.com I've ordered new earpiece from them before
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Amazon...try that
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G2x (P999) antenna cable..
I was finally able to fix one for a customer.. while replacing the digitizer, i somehow damaged the coax cable for G2x (antenna cable).. I tried to find at so many places online and came across this post but was not able to find any one who carried the part. Then thru google i came across dealrepairs-dot-com who had the cable for Optimus 2x (p990) for very cheap.. i ordered it hoping it would be the same thing.. it arrived finally in about 18 days (China to US).. i used no tracking free shipment.. total cose $3.60... it was the wrong part. // anyways, i had a customer who had a CDMA LG Marquee thru Boost..he was sending it back to insurance after breaking the digitizer and ordering a new one. I took it from him before shipping and opened to find out that it had the same size coax cable as G2x... end of story ..
You can search for LG Marquee coax cable.. or u can search for broken CDMA LG Marquee either by sprint or boost (which is cheaper than a broken G2x)...
Digikey has a part that works
Digikey sells a part that is a 100 mm long for $2.30 that I was able to fit in place of the original 80 mm cable.
The Digikey part number is A36224-ND. You will need to split the extra length between the logic board and the antenna ends, it does fit.
Good luck
Tom
tnemeth said:
Digikey sells a part that is a 100 mm long for $2.30 that I was able to fit in place of the original 80 mm cable.
The Digikey part number is A36224-ND. You will need to split the extra length between the logic board and the antenna ends, it does fit.
Good luck
Tom
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I'm in need of this little cable, about to order, these connections are the same as the MHF connectors, and this is confirmed as working for the phone?
Hello, I use the cable antenna LG optimus black because could not find the original part. It works but I have no 3G signal, only EDGE. Calls go out and get well, only that detail.
regards
P. D. sorry for my bad English

Anyone have information on antenna layout?

I've been having reception issues for almost two months, and i've ruled out software and SIM issues, which leads me to believe it's a hardware issue. Wi-Fi works with no problem, so i suspect it's the GSM/3G antenna that is failing. However, i have no way of knowing where it is. I know there are antennas on the two plastic pieces in the back, and i know that removing the top cover (where the microSIM is) kills Wi-Fi. anyone know where the GSM/3G antennas are?
kuroyume_cl said:
I've been having reception issues for almost two months, and i've ruled out software and SIM issues, which leads me to believe it's a hardware issue. Wi-Fi works with no problem, so i suspect it's the GSM/3G antenna that is failing. However, i have no way of knowing where it is. I know there are antennas on the two plastic pieces in the back, and i know that removing the top cover (where the microSIM is) kills Wi-Fi. anyone know where the GSM/3G antennas are?
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Others may disagree, but every phone I've ever owned had the 3g antenna in the bottom for regulatory emissions reasons.
Its at the bottom, guess the antenna actually IS the removable cover. Images and some FCC stuff here: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5868/htc-one-s-review-international-and-tmobile/7
There is an anntena on the bottom cover
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There is an anntena on the bottom cover
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Excellent, thanks
kuroyume_cl said:
I've been having reception issues for almost two months, and i've ruled out software and SIM issues, which leads me to believe it's a hardware issue. Wi-Fi works with no problem, so i suspect it's the GSM/3G antenna that is failing. However, i have no way of knowing where it is. I know there are antennas on the two plastic pieces in the back, and i know that removing the top cover (where the microSIM is) kills Wi-Fi. anyone know where the GSM/3G antennas are?
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Hey, i'm also having this issue, for almost two months now.
Do you have any news, were you able to fix it?
Guizzoni said:
Hey, i'm also having this issue, for almost two months now.
Do you have any news, were you able to fix it?
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I'm waiting for the tools i bought from Dealextreme to arrive. Once those show up i'll have more news
Well, i got the dools, opened the bottom panel and everything looked to be in order... pins were there, i bent the outwards a bit to make sure they were touching the antennas, but the problem persists
kuroyume_cl said:
Well, i got the dools, opened the bottom panel and everything looked to be in order... pins were there, i bent the outwards a bit to make sure they were touching the antennas, but the problem persists
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Damn, maybe the cables that connect the antenna to the motherboard are loose?
The connector, i mean
Guizzoni said:
Damn, maybe the cables that connect the antenna to the motherboard are loose?
The connector, i mean
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hmmm... i'm not sure i'm comfortable going THAT deep into the phone... i'll have to look into it
kuroyume_cl said:
hmmm... i'm not sure i'm comfortable going THAT deep into the phone... i'll have to look into it
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I'm not comfortable with it too. I'm pretty sure our problem are related somehow, might even be the same.
Because I live in Brazil, its impossible for me to get official support for the One S here, since the phone wasn't released in Brazil.
If you get any news please let me know, ill look into it too, and if I found something I willl let you know.
i live in chile, so i don't have official support either. I'll make sure to let you know if i can fix it.
kuroyume_cl said:
i live in chile, so i don't have official support either. I'll make sure to let you know if i can fix it.
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I was reading some of your posts about this issue, and i saw that you dropped your phone from knee high.
Well, that happened to me aswell, the same day i dropped the phone from my table i started having issues with the antenna.
Knowing this, i can say for sure that this is a hardware issue, and not software related.
I also saw this video on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0jGY2N2h1U
On the comments there's a guy saying that he fixed his antenna issues by using this tutorial.
I'm trying to contact him, to check what the issue was, and how he resolved it.
I'll post here if i find anything new.
Guizzoni said:
I was reading some of your posts about this issue, and i saw that you dropped your phone from knee high.
Well, that happened to me aswell, the same day i dropped the phone from my table i started having issues with the antenna.
Knowing this, i can say for sure that this is a hardware issue, and not software related.
I also saw this video on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0jGY2N2h1U
On the comments there's a guy saying that he fixed his antenna issues by using this tutorial.
I'm trying to contact him, to check what the issue was, and how he resolved it.
I'll post here if i find anything new.
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Just so you know, i took the phone to a repair center (not HTC specific, but seemed pretty good) and they told me it's a problem with the PCB or chips, since the phone wouldn't pick up a signal even with an external antenna

Solder motherboard, possible? [Picture]

Attached is a picture of the motherboard.
I have made a circle on one part of it. As you can see, there is a blue thing to the right - before, there were 2 blue things next to eachother. But the left blue thing is now gone, I don't know where... But seems like it has fallen out somehow...
Is it possible to solder this together? Or do I need the blue thing there?
When trying to use the motherboard, everything works very well - EXCEPT the touch screen, I cannot do anything because the screen doesn't feel my fingers (nowhere on the screen). And no, I have no clue if this is the reason for the touch screen not to work, but that's my guess as it worked good before.
Any help would be much appreciated, I don't have much knowledge about soldering and so on, as you might already have understood from my description above...
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I would highly suggest that you do not try soldering if you don't have any previous knowledge or experience. As for if the "blue thing" is needed or not I am unsure because I myself know little about what each piece does on the board. But as far as the touch screen issues goes, if the touch screen worked before the blue piece came of, it most likely has to do with it. If it didn't (or even if it did work before), try finding a second device that is the same as yours (or if its cheap and you can afford it order a new lcd/digitizer for it) and try connecting it to that motherboard and see if it works, if so problem fixed, if not, you may be able to take i to a phone repair place and have it fixed, though most times getting a new motherboard/device would be cheaper.
The-10th-Doctor said:
I would highly suggest that you do not try soldering if you don't have any previous knowledge or experience. As for if the "blue thing" is needed or not I am unsure because I myself know little about what each piece does on the board. But as far as the touch screen issues goes, if the touch screen worked before the blue piece came of, it most likely has to do with it. If it didn't (or even if it did work before), try finding a second device that is the same as yours (or if its cheap and you can afford it order a new lcd/digitizer for it) and try connecting it to that motherboard and see if it works, if so problem fixed, if not, you may be able to take i to a phone repair place and have it fixed, though most times getting a new motherboard/device would be cheaper.
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Thanks for the reply.. I have actually ordered two other "broken" phones, so I will receive them in a week or something... And I will do exactly what you suggested, to try another motherboard and see if it is a problem with the screen or motherboard. I am very sure it is the motherboard though, because the lcd and digitizer worked great just before I discovered that.
Would still appreciate answers regarding soldering this, if that is possible or not.
Solder motherboard, possible?
Robinjoeh said:
Thanks for the reply.. I have actually ordered two other "broken" phones, so I will receive them in a week or something... And I will do exactly what you suggested, to try another motherboard and see if it is a problem with the screen or motherboard. I am very sure it is the motherboard though, because the lcd and digitizer worked great just before I discovered that.
Would still appreciate answers regarding soldering this, if that is possible or not.
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It seems like your missing a resistor . you can simply measure the values on the existing component and order the same value on digikey. let me know if you need help with soldering
turbotronics said:
It seems like your missing a resistor . you can simply measure the values on the existing component and order the same value on digikey. let me know if you need help with soldering
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Ah, a resistor! Not easy to know when you have no clue what it is...
How do I measure the values on the existing component? I don't really think I need any help with soldering, but pretty much everything before that... Haha
Thanks!

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