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Hi !
I want to use an external screen with my TF. I spotted some stuff on ebay I think might work, but I'm not totally sure. Since shipping will take 3 weeks at least, I'd like to be 100% sure it will be the right one for the TF.
My screen doesn't have hdmi, it's a VGA / DVI screen, so I was thinking of buying an hdmi to DVI cable, and an Hdmi to mini hdmi adapter to plug it into the TF. Will this work ? Or is there something like the stupid USB port that will accept only the Asus usb adapter to be able to communicate with it ? (I'm pretty pissed of with that one, since I can't find it cheap in my country, and the only websites I found in the US willing to ship to Switzerland quoted me shipping a 200$)
That the stuff I was planning on buying :
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...eName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
and
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...eName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
What do you think ? Might work ?
Thanks !
i've done this exact thing recently.. it works well.. I sat one of my monitors next to my bed and streamed some tv.
Though when i got the mini-hdmi to hdmi adapter.. it came with a pretty nice screen protector, too.
TL;DR: yes it will work.
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Thanks ! I'll do that, then ! For my part, it's to view pdfs (like Photoshop magazines) on a bigger screen while having the ability to flip through the pages. I already have two screens on the computer, can't put a third one without changing the graphic card, so I thought putting it on the TF would be a nice solution
that's a pretty good idea! its nice for watching shows in bed... or ircing with a bluetooth keyboard, too. ;D
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So, some news about my oh so great idea...
I finally received both the dvi - hdmi cable and the hdmi - mini hdmi adapter. I was very excited, plugged it in the screen and in the TF, and... "check cable signal". Yep. I tried finding stuff on the internet, nothing. Then my screen wouldn't work anymore altogether, I was a bit panicked. But yeah, as I like to live dangerously, I plugged it in my other screen... nothing, "check cable signal". (and then the screen wouldn't work anymore either and it took half an hour to get it back on the PC after switching cables, going VGA mode, playing with graphic card settings...)
I thought, maybe the TF isn't sending the signal properly, let's try the camera (Nex from Sony, with hdmi). Same thing, "check cable signal".
So now, my question... Is it possible both my screens are too old to be able to get hdmi signal ? (seems weird, but why not, they are not HD and don't have any hdmi entry) Or is the most probable scenario that my cable isn't working properly ? Or can it be the hdmi - mini hdmi adapter ? I only have my TF and my Nex with hdmi outputs, and they are mini hdmi, I have no other gear I can try with.
What do you think ? Screen is too old or cable is faulty ?
Are your monitors HDCP?
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No idea... How do I check that ? (but I read from a guy who put the TF on external monitor by using an hdmi - vga cable, surely it was not an hdcp screen)
I believe you should be fine. If the monitor/tv supports DVI (Digital Video Interface) then you will be fine with an HDMI to DVI adapter as HDMI is also a digital video signal. Now if it was HDMI to VGA (analog video) then you would need a converter of some type.
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I had the same problem, and it appears that my monitor does not handle the tf101 resolution through dvi (1280x960).
And there is actually no way to lower the tf101 output resolution through hdmi, afaik.
So check on the screen's manual the max resolution your monitors could handle through dvi (be careful,
it might be different than from vga).
my screen is in 1650x1050, or something like that. The other one should be at least a 1280x960. So it might be that the cable is not working properly ? How can I know if the problem is with the cable and not with the hdmi mini hdmi converter ? What do you think is more likely ?
Depends on the brand of cable and adapter. Usually the HDMI to mini HDMI adapter doesn't break, as it's just a block of plastic (in my case at least)
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Ok, I'll probably go and buy a new cable tomorrow. But I'm thinking about something : I figured the hdmi - mini hdmi adapter + cable puts a strain on the hdmi slot in the TF, so I'm wondering if it might be better to buy an hdmi mini hdmi cable, and an hdmi dvi adapter instead. The strain would be put on the external screen, but that's ok since the dvi is screwed to the screen.
Your opinion ?
I tried exactly what you are doing a few Weeks back, after assuming it would work and trying many combinations of wires I finally searched and found zero confirmed reports that you can use a dvi to hdmi cable for video output.
What I found works is going with a dvi to vga converter, its more expensive but looks like the only way without a straight hdmi to hdmi connection. Asus actually makes a converter for this purpose, HP also has one... I think they are both in the $40-50 range. I don't have links but just google Asus or HP hdmi to VGA converter
Good luck
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Thanks for that ! That way I won't have to buy another cable and have it not work. But, big question... why on earth are there hdmi to dvi cables if there is no way to convert video signal from hdmi to dvi ??? What use are these cables ?
BTW, I have a DVI to VGA converter, do you think I should try and stick it on my hdmi dvi cable ? (the thing is lying around, if I can get some use for it, I might as well try)
The Asus thing seems a great idea and I will probably end up buying it.
One thing I don't understand though... Why mini hdmi to VGA ??? Why not mini hdmi to DVI, if that needs a converter anyway, better make it dvi, no ? What about the resolution ? I don't want to get a stupid resolution on my screen because of problems with VGA (and I'm lucky I've still got a screen with VGA and DVI...).
Actually, what about a cable like this one ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...akeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en
I would be pissed of if I have to pay $50 for asus adapter if I can get one for 8$ on ebay...
Never mind, after a quick search on the internet, some people tried and it doesn't work...
But actually, I HAVE to ask. Why doesn't it work ? What is the problem ? hdmi is digital, dvi is digital... WHY ???
(I haven't ordered my adapter from asus yet, still looking for a cheaper solution.)
Edit again : what I saw that doesn't work was the hdmi to VGA cable, I couldn't find anything about hdmi to dvi... I might go to the shop tomorrow with the TF and ask if I can try a cable there...
Mini hdmi to hdmi to hdmi-dvi converter works. I've tested this configuration myself.
For the vga, you need a converter, like the asus hdmi-vga one.
Just check the xda forum, searching with hdmi dvi keywords.
You'll have the answers to your question by digging a little more.
My lg monitor works fine with mini hdmi to hdmi to dvi. The ui is in 720p on the screen but if you play 1080p HW accelerated video the resolution changes as well. Wanna see a picture of proof? ;-)
I also have the converter and this works also fine. Have a look at the thread in the Accessoires forum.
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Alexane_A said:
Thanks for that ! That way I won't have to buy another cable and have it not work. But, big question... why on earth are there hdmi to dvi cables if there is no way to convert video signal from hdmi to dvi ??? What use are these cables ?
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Firstly, the video part of HDMI is electrically compatible with DVI, that is, they are the same thing just over different wires in a different connector.
However
TFT monitors _may_ not sync down to the specific TV-based refresh rates that HDMI outputs often use. Unless your monitor advertises that it will do the TV resolutions/refresh rates like 1080p/720p etc then its unlikely the TF1010 will display on them. The video output of the TF101 is 720p scaled up to a 1080p signal can your monitors do 1080p?
I haven't the slightest clue... One is quite old, a samsung 2232BW (but that's my main display, so I won't use it with my TF) and the other one is about 1 year old, an HP crap given with a cheap computer...
I might as well buy the cable. Other than that, if my monitor can't handle the 1080p, would it work with the asus hdmi to vga converter ?
(BTW, the prices in the shop are totaly crazy. I went today and saw that the hdmi to dvi cables were about $90, and I found one on ebay, $7 shipping included, gold plated, 3 years warranty)
The exciting features of the Nexus 4 just keep on coming. It seems it will support a technology called SlimPort which allows you to use the micro USB to connect the phone to a second display via HDMI, DVI, VGA and DisplayPort.
The only connector available at present is for HDMI, which also charges the device while connected. Other connectors are to be released in the future.
Info from Engadget.
EDIT: New review from AnandTech. See below:
In my Nexus 4 review, I noted that the device was the first shipping handset to include support for SlimPort via an Analogix ANX7808 SlimPort transmitter. When I wrote that review it wasn't immediately clear what advantages SlimPort offered over MHL, which has become relatively ubiquitous in the year or so since its introduction. Since then I've acquired the SlimPort microUSB to HDMI 1.4 SP1002 and VGA (D-SUB) SP2002 adapters from Analogix for testing out SlimPort on the Nexus 4.
SlimPort is a new video output standard which works over microUSB, and is effectively an MHL alternative based on the DisplayPort standard administered by VESA. SlimPort is offered both license and royalty free, and supports up to 1080p60 or 1080p30 with 3D content over HDMI 1.4 (up to 5.4 Gbps of bandwidth), in addition to support for DVI, VGA (up to 1366x768 and 720p at 60 Hz), and DisplayPort. What's different about SlimPort from a user-facing perspective is that external microUSB power is not required for the adapter to work and is instead only required for optional charging. At the same time, the adapters draw no power from the source to operate.
I've spent some time playing around with the SP1002 HDMI adapter, which I believe is based on ANX7730, and the SP2002 VGA adapter, which is likely based on ANX9832. As of this writing, the Analogix SP1002 adapter is available on Amazon for around $30 USD. I haven't seen the SP2002 available online anywhere yet, however.
When connected to the Nexus 4, the HDMI adapter rotates the UI into landscape and mirrors the display just as expected. Resolution is scaled to 1080p60 on the Nexus 4 up from the panel resolution of 1280x768, which results in some letterboxing. As expected there's no requirement to have microUSB power connected to the adapter, I tested it with and without external microUSB power, all this does is just enable charging.
I posted a video review (shot on the Samsung Galaxy Camera) demonstrating the Nexus 4 doing mirroring with the SlimPort SP1002 adapter and received a query about whether the combo enables multichannel audio over HDMI as well. I tested VLC for Android with some .MKVs I had laying around with 5.1 AAC tracks and found that VLC will decode the multichannel audio and ship it over as 5.1 PCM to my A/V Receiver, so this does work, surprisingly enough. There's no bitstreaming support as far as I can tell, however. As an aside I was able to playback a number of 720p MKVs with hardware decoding checked in VLC for Android and 5.1 audio out with no dropped frames. The Nexus 4 seems to be a passable platform if you're looking to play the occasional 720p video over HDMI — provided you have the free storage for it.
I also tested out the SP2002 microUSB SlimPort to VGA adapter, which has a longer cable and correspondingly beefier module for accommodating the D-SUB connector on the end. I tried with a Dell G2410 LCD display and XGA resolution DLP projector and saw an output resolution of VGA (640x480 at 60 Hz), which wasn't quite what I expected. The SP2002 should work just fine with 720p60 over VGA, and I know both monitors expose the proper EDID, it seems as though the Nexus 4 just defaults to this mode. Just like the HDMI adapter there's a microUSB port on the back for optional charging, though the dongle doesn't require external power to operate.
Thus far I'm fairly impressed with SlimPort. I enjoyed discrete microHDMI connections on devices when that was the norm, though finding a microHDMI to HDMI cable was always the challenge. Later MHL seemed a step in the right direction, but requiring three cables to do display mirroring seemed like a bit much. With SlimPort I think we've finally arrived at something close to ideal with the standard not requiring external power to function. It will be interesting to see how SlimPort, MHL, and Miracast adoption fare in the coming year as mirroring to a larger display is in the cards as a convergence trend for smartphones and tablets.
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Charges the device while it's connected? That's awesome!
I questioned that at first as well. If you follow the link to the adapter and look at the pics you'll notice that it has a USB input. I assume this has to be connected to charge the phone. As far as I'm aware HDMI doesn't carry power.
Only TVs with built in MHL HDMI Ports provide power.
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I read that the adapter has to have a power source to work... I assume then that this additional micro USB input is to enable use with TV's that dont support MHL.
Nothing like this exists now? Intriguing concept.
Will this work without having the charger connected? It seems nearly identical to Samsung MHL adapters.
I bought one. It seems like the packaging said something about the micro usb port being optional if you want it to charge, but I threw that stuff away and don't have an N4 to test with.
I think the "HDTV Cable" on the SlimPort site is going to be a cable that's micro usb (SlimPort) on one side, and HDMI on the other without any power input.
I ordered one as well
Cant wait to try it
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Charges the device while it's connected? That's awesome!
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As funny as that sounds, that would actually be nice. I know it's not SlimPort, but I use a Monoprice MHL-HDMI adapter currently. It requires power to work. Unfortunately, it can't negotiate high current and the phone shows USB charge mode. But with the screen active, it ends up losing 10-100ma. I haven't researched the actual micro-usb pinout to see if video uses the usb data pins or what. If somehow it doesn't, I might be able to short them out and have it go into AC charge mode.
Or maybe the better MHL adapters actually do negotiation and do charge?
Either way, hopefully the initial feedback on the N4 is good enough that I can overlook the fixed battery and storage.
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As funny as that sounds, that would actually be nice. I know it's not SlimPort, but I use a Monoprice MHL-HDMI adapter currently. It requires power to work. Unfortunately, it can't negotiate high current and the phone shows USB charge mode. But with the screen active, it ends up losing 10-100ma. I haven't researched the actual micro-usb pinout to see if video uses the usb data pins or what. If somehow it doesn't, I might be able to short them out and have it go into AC charge mode.
Or maybe the better MHL adapters actually do negotiation and do charge?
Either way, hopefully the initial feedback on the N4 is good enough that I can overlook the fixed battery and storage.
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My MHL adapter charged my GS3 charged when watching the Avengers movie Samsung gave T-Mobile GS3 customers. It was a pretty slow charge, but prevented my battery from dying like it should have.
I think this would be a lot more appealing in dock form.
The cable+block adapters are always a bit awkward to connect up and actually use in my opinion.
Will an MHL adapter work? I was using one on my GS2 and want to know if I will be able to use it on my N4
the video on this page specifically says that no external power source is needed.
http://www.analogix.com/products/slimport.html
I tried mine yesterday
I works with no power at all
Although I must say the phone got pretty hot when watching a YouTube video
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Just ordered one of these Slimport adapters from Amazon since my Google order has just shipped. Reasonably priced and power is optional unlike MHL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK6HttbgTaI&feature=plcp
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I tried mine yesterday
I works with no power at all
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Mine arrived from Amazon yesterday but I can't get a picture on the TV, when I plug everything in the screen on the N4 rotates to landscape and the phone loses sound, all good so far. But when I select HDMI source on the TV I just get a black screen.
This is annoying because the S3 worked perfectly with the Samsung adaptor.
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Mine arrived from Amazon yesterday but I can't get a picture on the TV, when I plug everything in the screen on the N4 rotates to landscape and the phone loses sound, all good so far. But when I select HDMI source on the TV I just get a black screen.
This is annoying because the S3 worked perfectly with the Samsung adaptor.
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Is your TV set to the correct HDMI port?
Nexus4, Tapatalk
There are apparently 3 dongles out there being marketed with a male microusb and female hdmi output:
Can someone please provide clarity on which ones will work with the nexus 4? Specifically looking for someone to post results for example 1
1. Generic MicroUSB MHL dongle cable : these are sold on ebay and optionally have an extra female microusb on them for OTG or power. This one will NOT work on Galaxy S3 bc of pin change. Can someone report if this type works on Nexus 4? It would be the most affordable solution if so
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MHL-Micro-U...748540?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1e74de5c3c
2. Samsung SGS3 MHL dongle cable: bc of samsung pin change, this cable was specifically required for SGS3. - Reported not working on Nexus 4
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/09/galaxy-s-iii-incompatible-with-previous-mhl-dongles/
3. Slimport microUSB cable - Reported working on Nexus 4, but pricey
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009UZBLSG?tag=5336653508-20
I found these two adapters from MonoPrice. Will they work on my Microsoft Surface Pro?
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt® to HDMI®, DVI & DisplayPort Adapter
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt to VGA Adapter
gksmith said:
I found these two adapters from MonoPrice. Will they work on my Microsoft Surface Pro?
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt® to HDMI®, DVI & DisplayPort Adapter
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt to VGA Adapter
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Neither one as they are both thunderbolt plugs *NOT* mini display port, poor advertising on their part. A thunderbolt plug contains electrical signalling for both thunderbolt and mini display port but does not share the same physical connector.
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Neither one as they are both thunderbolt plugs *NOT* mini display port, poor advertising on their part. A thunderbolt plug contains electrical signalling for both thunderbolt and mini display port but does not share the same physical connector.
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One of the Apple FAQs I read indicated that DisplayPort will work with devices with a Thunderbolt port but not the other way around and that the wiring on Thunderbolt was bi-directional.
I was hoping to get a couple of adapters instead of a bunch of cables.
Just done some research. Thunderbolt and displayport sockets and plugs are very much related it turns out. The thunderbolt cable uses a displayport socket with additional contacts added in locations which shouldnt interfere with displayport wiring. So you should be able to plug a mini displayport straight into a thunderbolt socket, but you cannot necessarily plug a thunderbolt cable into a displayport, but a "thunderbolt" > HDMI adaptor would most likely just use the cheaper displayport plug for maximum compatibility. So it should work, but it might not, depends on whether the company is genuinely using a displayport plug or a thunderbolt plug.
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Just done some research. Thunderbolt and displayport sockets and plugs are very much related it turns out. The thunderbolt cable uses a displayport socket with additional contacts added in locations which shouldnt interfere with displayport wiring. So you should be able to plug a mini displayport straight into a thunderbolt socket, but you cannot necessarily plug a thunderbolt cable into a displayport, but a "thunderbolt" > HDMI adaptor would most likely just use the cheaper displayport plug for maximum compatibility. So it should work, but it might not, depends on whether the company is genuinely using a displayport plug or a thunderbolt plug.
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I spoke with MonoPrice and they claim they will work - I'm going to give it a try. If they don't work I'll ship them back. If they do, they are a nice alternative to the Microsoft ones which are pricey.
I'll post a review of the adapters when they come.
Now I'm searching for a AC charger for the unit. I need a spare and I don't want to pay the $80 Microsoft wants.
I use this one from amazon. its a good price and worked instantly out the package. very good quality picture and sound connection.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003XCVQ3C/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
demandarin said:
I use this one from amazon. its a good price and worked instantly out the package. very good quality picture and sound connection.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003XCVQ3C/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Is there one like this W/ out audio?
ericerk said:
Is there one like this W/ out audio?
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Not sure what you mean. I plug my hdmi cable into the adapter and plug into tv. Video and sound is automatic. Now if the tv has a dvi port on back, you can get the display port to dvi adapter. Then I guess you'll have no sound then and have to route sound through headphone jack or so on the pro ?????
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Not sure what you mean. I plug my hdmi cable into the adapter and plug into tv. Video and sound is automatic. Now if the tv has a dvi port on back, you can get the display port to dvi adapter. Then I guess you'll have no sound then and have to route sound through headphone jack or so on the pro ?????
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The RT, Basically I'd want to plug it into my monitor (no speakers).
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The RT, Basically I'd want to plug it into my monitor (no speakers).
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These are for the pro not the RT. The RT does *not* have a display port. It has HDMI instead (which I also think the pro should have had, seriously, who the hell has a display port, I have *never* in my life seen one, plenty of HDMI, DVI and VGA ports though).
I dont have an HDMI device without speakers sadly so I dont know how windows would handle sound. But I do know that if you plug an HDMI device into windows, and then plug in separate speakers (USB or 3.5mm audio jack) then windows outputs to the external speakers by default. Or you can right click the audio icon on your system tray, Playback devices, change it so that the RT speakers are in use and not HDMI speakers or whatever.
If your monitor is not HDMI, you can buy an HDMI>DVI cable, or external HDMI>VGA adaptor units. Contrary to the above, DVI *DOES* contain audio, source: I have an NVidia GTX460 with twin DVI ports on the back, I have a DVI to HDMI cable which connects to the HDMI on my TV, there are no other speakers connected and no other cables between TV and GPU, I get audio from TV fine, therefore DVI must be carrying the audio signal just fine and dandy (and windows does indeed say that the audio device is a TOSHIBA HD TV or something like that).
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These are for the pro not the RT. The RT does *not* have a display port. It has HDMI instead (which I also think the pro should have had, seriously, who the hell has a display port, I have *never* in my life seen one, plenty of HDMI, DVI and VGA ports though).
I dont have an HDMI device without speakers sadly so I dont know how windows would handle sound. But I do know that if you plug an HDMI device into windows, and then plug in separate speakers (USB or 3.5mm audio jack) then windows outputs to the external speakers by default. Or you can right click the audio icon on your system tray, Playback devices, change it so that the RT speakers are in use and not HDMI speakers or whatever.
If your monitor is not HDMI, you can buy an HDMI>DVI cable, or external HDMI>VGA adaptor units. Contrary to the above, DVI *DOES* contain audio, source: I have an NVidia GTX460 with twin DVI ports on the back, I have a DVI to HDMI cable which connects to the HDMI on my TV, there are no other speakers connected and no other cables between TV and GPU, I get audio from TV fine, therefore DVI must be carrying the audio signal just fine and dandy (and windows does indeed say that the audio device is a TOSHIBA HD TV or something like that).
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I Think I need to go back to kindergarden and learn how to read again, I'm missing everything...
SixSixSevenSeven said:
These are for the pro not the RT. The RT does *not* have a display port. It has HDMI instead (which I also think the pro should have had, seriously, who the hell has a display port, I have *never* in my life seen one, plenty of HDMI, DVI and VGA ports though).
I dont have an HDMI device without speakers sadly so I dont know how windows would handle sound. But I do know that if you plug an HDMI device into windows, and then plug in separate speakers (USB or 3.5mm audio jack) then windows outputs to the external speakers by default. Or you can right click the audio icon on your system tray, Playback devices, change it so that the RT speakers are in use and not HDMI speakers or whatever.
If your monitor is not HDMI, you can buy an HDMI>DVI cable, or external HDMI>VGA adaptor units. Contrary to the above, DVI *DOES* contain audio, source: I have an NVidia GTX460 with twin DVI ports on the back, I have a DVI to HDMI cable which connects to the HDMI on my TV, there are no other speakers connected and no other cables between TV and GPU, I get audio from TV fine, therefore DVI must be carrying the audio signal just fine and dandy (and windows does indeed say that the audio device is a TOSHIBA HD TV or something like that).
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The reason for display port is its the newer high standard in media transfer or whatever. Hdmi "supposedly" tops out at 1080p content. Display port can put out 4k or higher content. All or most apple devices use display port also. Its just including the latest and greatest like the pro usb 3.0 port.
Display port is a higher functioning port than just plain hdmi. For example hdmi does not support daisy chain devices but display port does. This means you can run multiple displays from a single port, with the right adapter.
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Neither one as they are both thunderbolt plugs *NOT* mini display port, poor advertising on their part. A thunderbolt plug contains electrical signalling for both thunderbolt and mini display port but does not share the same physical connector.
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gksmith said:
I found these two adapters from MonoPrice. Will they work on my Microsoft Surface Pro?
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt® to HDMI®, DVI & DisplayPort Adapter
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt to VGA Adapter
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I forgot to come back and post my results. Both adapters work just fine. They appear to be 100% compatible with the Surface Pro.:good:
demandarin said:
The reason for display port is its the newer high standard in media transfer or whatever. Hdmi "supposedly" tops out at 1080p content. Display port can put out 4k or higher content. All or most apple devices use display port also. Its just including the latest and greatest like the pro usb 3.0 port.
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Hmm, the new Haswell based Dell's we got at work are all Display Port based. I guess it's something we're going to see more and more of. The new video card I got for my PC at home also came with Display Port along with all the other types.
DisplayPort appears to be intended more for the computer industry (for connecting to computer monitors, primarily), while HDMI appears to be intended more for most other consumer electronics (for connecting to TVs, primarily). I imagine that Microsoft figured that the Pro would more likely be used for real work, including in business environments, so DisplayPort made more sense, whereas the RT is more of a personal media consumption device (the kind that you use in front of the TV), so HDMI made more sense.
demandarin said:
The reason for display port is its the newer high standard in media transfer or whatever. Hdmi "supposedly" tops out at 1080p content. Display port can put out 4k or higher content. All or most apple devices use display port also. Its just including the latest and greatest like the pro usb 3.0 port.
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FWIW, the new HDMI 2.0 spec (I believe announced a few days after your post) supports 4K content. We ought to start seeing products with it by the end of the year.
Just an FYI but display port and thunderbolt both support daisy chaining devices, HDMI does not. This means you can attach multiple monitors to a single display port with the correct adapter.
HDMI is limited to a single output. You can amplify and split the output but it will not allow multiple independent displays.
I would much rather have a display port than an HDMI port.
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I still have never in my life seen a display with displayport as an option here in the UK with my own eyes.
I can confirm that I have both of these adapters, and they work just fine with my Surface Pro.
gksmith said:
I found these two adapters from MonoPrice. Will they work on my Microsoft Surface Pro?
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt® to HDMI®, DVI & DisplayPort Adapter
Mini DisplayPort | Thunderbolt to VGA Adapter
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SixSixSevenSeven said:
I still have never in my life seen a display with displayport as an option here in the UK with my own eyes.
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HP sells 24" monitors with display port and DVI connections. They sell these globally.
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Do Micro USB to USB/HDMI adapters exist? Basically, an OTG cable with an HDMI split, as well. Please recommend a good one if you know of one that works.
I don't know of any myself because I haven't used them, but I believe they do exist. I remember reading about them before. though you'd need your device to support it.
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I looked it up, and it's not exactly HDMI output (which some devices do have), but they do have adapters for micro USB to HDMI - look up MHL
I asked that in general troubleshooting.
Note4 has a mhl 3.0 allowing it to output 4k resolution to 4k hdtvs. For now just content taken with it like photos and recorded video.
Ok, ive tested a generic mhl 2.0 and it didn't work (the mhl drive needs power to abs from the note4 so you have to have the 5pin to 11 pin adaptor on top of the mhl drive) but!
An oem samsung one (usually white) works out of the box. Retail 40 dollars on samaungs w3bsire. Amazon i think 35 dollars. Again the this on3 only works with the power cord to the drive.
But!! If you are lucky to have a samsung smart dock from the note2 it works for the note4. (When the note4 came out first staples was clearing out the shelves of the note2 docks users reported as a working wired dock to hdmi screen mirroring.)
Woreless? Chromecast...most miracast devices. And the new roku stick hdmi version work
chosenhobo said:
I don't know of any myself because I haven't used them, but I believe they do exist. I remember reading about them before. though you'd need your device to support it.
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I looked it up, and it's not exactly HDMI output (which some devices do have), but they do have adapters for micro USB to HDMI - look up MHL
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-H10FAUWESTA
...and according to gsmarena.com the Note 4 supports MHL 3.0 - technically up to 4k resolution, but I've not tried this.
e: I've just bought one of these:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00K6COMKG/ref=sr_ph?ie=UTF8&qid=1415275550&sr=1&keywords=mhl+patuoxun
...to test. I'll post a report when it arrives/I've tried it.
SquidgyB said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_High-Definition_Link
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ET-H10FAUWESTA
...and according to gsmarena.com the Note 4 supports MHL 3.0 - technically up to 4k resolution, but I've not tried this.
e: I've just bought one of these:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00K6COMKG/ref=sr_ph?ie=UTF8&qid=1415275550&sr=1&keywords=mhl+patuoxun
...to test. I'll post a report when it arrives/I've tried it.
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Yup, works a treat.
I want to get something to plug my g5 into an HDMI port, but so far I haven't found any conclusive evidence that the g5 supports mhl or slimport adapters. I've also seen some of those hubs for the macbook or chrome pixel, but I can't find any indication those would work either.
Anyone have any on hand that they've verified to work? Ideally I'd like a hub that has a USB 3.0 a port, HDMI port, and another USB c port for charging.
I bought a Cable Matters USB type C male to HDMI female, tried it out, feels like the LG G5 goes at 15 fps or at least lower than 24fps and my minimal testing confirms 2ch (nothing more than that) support, felt a little too disgusted with the quality (mind you, still played 1080p) and lack of overall resolution. I would definitely love to hear others input from other people with different products as well. I'm hoping it isn't like this with everything else.
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I bought a Cable Matters USB type C male to HDMI female, tried it out, feels like the LG G5 goes at 15 fps or at least lower than 24fps and my minimal testing confirms 2ch (nothing more than that) support, felt a little too disgusted with the quality (mind you, still played 1080p) and lack of overall resolution. I would definitely love to hear others input from other people with different products as well. I'm hoping it isn't like this with everything else.
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I'd imagine (read, hope) that would just be a function of a cheap adapter. Due to the fact that the g5 can drive the vr goggles at a decent framrate, I would think 1080p 30hz would be no big deal for it.
I'm going to bite the bullet and buy one of those adapters off of Amazon. Specifically this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01BSJVY7Y/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A14L9DIA3NK9B0
I'll report back in 2 days when it gets here to let others know if it works.
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I'd imagine (read, hope) that would just be a function of a cheap adapter. Due to the fact that the g5 can drive the vr goggles at a decent framrate, I would think 1080p 30hz would be no big deal for it.
I'm going to bite the bullet and buy one of those adapters off of Amazon. Specifically this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01BSJVY7Y/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A14L9DIA3NK9B0
I'll report back in 2 days when it gets here to let others know if it works.
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Well, any luck with it?
mtnbiker717 said:
Well, any luck with it?
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Hold your horses, it hasn't been delivered yet. Ups is taking their time :/
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Hold your horses, it hasn't been delivered yet. Ups is taking their time :/
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story of everyone's life lol
Bad news
Well, only bad news. The g5 doesn't even recognize there's an HDMI port there. I'll fiddle with some settings but I have a feeling it's not going to work. The USB 3 port kept mounting/unmounting every few seconds, and when it did stay mounted, I only got transfer speeds of 2MBps. The charging worked though. 1/3 is a bad ratio IMO.
UPDATE!!!!1!1!1ONE!!!
So I'm slightly retarded, I didn't have the input on my stereo receiver set to the input the phone was on. Once I changed the input, it worked like a charm. It's 1080p 24hz and only 2 channel audio, but I think the audio is an Android limitation. Also I guess es file explorer just didn't like my flash drive cuz an actual portable hard drive worked great on the USB 3 port.
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Well, only bad news. The g5 doesn't even recognize there's an HDMI port there. I'll fiddle with some settings but I have a feeling it's not going to work. The USB 3 port kept mounting/unmounting every few seconds, and when it did stay mounted, I only got transfer speeds of 2MBps. The charging worked though. 1/3 is a bad ratio IMO.
UPDATE!!!!1!1!1ONE!!!
So I'm slightly retarded, I didn't have the input on my stereo receiver set to the input the phone was on. Once I changed the input, it worked like a charm. It's 1080p 24hz and only 2 channel audio, but I think the audio is an Android limitation. Also I guess es file explorer just didn't like my flash drive cuz an actual portable hard drive worked great on the USB 3 port.
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Awesome! I would be so down for this, but I have a surround sound setup and 2ch is something I can't get past, unfortunately. Have you tried the stock video app or VLC to stream for the audio?
I have streamed through the Google Cast, but sometimes my files would be too large over my network or the streaming apps like AllCast would only support some audio types, VLC can stream but its just too muffled and not that great over network.
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Awesome! I would be so down for this, but I have a surround sound setup and 2ch is something I can't get past, unfortunately. Have you tried the stock video app or VLC to stream for the audio?
I have streamed through the Google Cast, but sometimes my files would be too large over my network or the streaming apps like AllCast would only support some audio types, VLC can stream but its just too muffled and not that great over network.
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Nah, I was using MX player, I'll try vlc or stock later and report back.
I have been considering that same one. Guess I'll go ahead and get one. Going to try a keyboard and mouse on the USB port. No reason just want to see if it works.
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I have been considering that same one. Guess I'll go ahead and get one. Going to try a keyboard and mouse on the USB port. No reason just want to see if it works.
Sent from my LG-H830 using Tapatalk
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Way ahead of you, im typing this with a wireless logitech keyboard also mouse works great! I'd never actually used a mouse/keyboard with android before and im surprised at how nice it is.
Update: for those curious, it also suports USB hubs. I only tried a 2.0 cuz I don't have e a 3.0 hub. However multiple USB storage devices gave it issues, but I don't see why one would need more than 1 of those at any given time.
Per the developer website the G5 should have display port alternate mode (maybe only 2 channel) on the type C connector. Some of the mono-price adapters should allow you to use this but I haven't tried one yet.
For video out I got the cheapest usb type c to vga adaptor I could find on Amazon (the brand is Techvilla) and it works perfectly.
straxxus said:
Well, only bad news. The g5 doesn't even recognize there's an HDMI port there. I'll fiddle with some settings but I have a feeling it's not going to work. The USB 3 port kept mounting/unmounting every few seconds, and when it did stay mounted, I only got transfer speeds of 2MBps. The charging worked though. 1/3 is a bad ratio IMO.
UPDATE!!!!1!1!1ONE!!!
So I'm slightly retarded, I didn't have the input on my stereo receiver set to the input the phone was on. Once I changed the input, it worked like a charm. It's 1080p 24hz and only 2 channel audio, but I think the audio is an Android limitation. Also I guess es file explorer just didn't like my flash drive cuz an actual portable hard drive worked great on the USB 3 port.
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With that adapter can you charge while playing video?
For football season I normally find a working mobile version & then deal with casting to my TV, but the casting has been less then stable so if I can hard wire it would be awesome. Need to be able to charge simultaneously though to make it through a full day (even a normal non QC is good enough).
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With that adapter can you charge while playing video?
For football season I normally find a working mobile version & then deal with casting to my TV, but the casting has been less then stable so if I can hard wire it would be awesome. Need to be able to charge simultaneously though to make it through a full day (even a normal non QC is good enough).
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I used it last weekend, you can charge it while using it, but the percentage didn't actually go up. It stayed the same over the 2+hours I was watching. It may have just been my power source though (cheap battery bank). As long as you start with a decent charge you should be fine for extended periods.
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I used it last weekend, you can charge it while using it, but the percentage didn't actually go up. It stayed the same over the 2+hours I was watching. It may have just been my power source though (cheap battery bank). As long as you start with a decent charge you should be fine for extended periods.
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sweet... holding the charge is good enough for me. Thanks for the reply
Anyone think Lindy MHL 3.0 will work with G5 if I buy micro-USB to type-c adapter?
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Anyone think Lindy MHL 3.0 will work with G5 if I buy micro-USB to type-c adapter?
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Probably not as the G5's video out is slimport standard and not MHL. See link below:
http://www.slimportconnect.com/slimport-supported-devices/
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I used it last weekend, you can charge it while using it, but the percentage didn't actually go up. It stayed the same over the 2+hours I was watching. It may have just been my power source though (cheap battery bank). As long as you start with a decent charge you should be fine for extended periods.
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Hi!
I own the similar noname adapter. It works fine, but sometimes it spontaneously disconnects. And i can't guess is it a problem in the phone's firmware or in the adapter itself.
Have you encountered this?
I have the Samsung Multiport Adapter for my Galaxy TabPro S, so I figured I could hook up the G5 to the adapter. The picture shows up on the TV, but I don't hear any sound. Need to try more when I've got more time. I'm also curious if passthrough charging and USB works... that'd be rather cool, though I don't know what I could use it for. Maybe run Kodi...?