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[Q] HTC HD7S vs Samsung Focus

Tired out waiting for dual cores to come out for WP7...and I have been waiting to get a new phone for several months now.
So I was kind of curious, the HD7S is $150 more than the Focus. Besides a slightly larger screen, are there any other differences between these two, or are you just paying more for the HTC brand name?

Booyaah82 said:
Tired out waiting for dual cores to come out for WP7...and I have been waiting to get a new phone for several months now.
So I was kind of curious, the HD7S is $150 more than the Focus. Besides a slightly larger screen, are there any other differences between these two, or are you just paying more for the HTC brand name?
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[U]HD7S[/U] [U]Focus[/U]
SLCD Super AMOLED
16 GB 8 GB (expandable)
4.8 x 2.68 x 0.44 inches 4.84 x 2.56 x 0.39 inches
Seems to be the primary differences. Lots of sites out there you can look for to compare devices. -_-'

Booyaah82 said:
Tired out waiting for dual cores to come out for WP7
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Just curious -- why do you want that? What benefit will you realize from having 2 cores?

i think focus don't have cost performance
hd7 is gelivable

I got a focus and the super amoled screen its just beutiful, the performance of it it just amazing, i dont know about the hd7 but the focus is the way to go, and its thiner and lighter, great camara

mizad09 said:
I got a focus and the super amoled screen its just beutiful, the performance of it it just amazing, i dont know about the hd7 but the focus is the way to go, and its thiner and lighter, great camara
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remember focus is smaller than hd7s,although it doesn't have a S amoled.

Booyaah82 said:
Tired out waiting for dual cores to come out for WP7...and I have been waiting to get a new phone for several months now.
So I was kind of curious, the HD7S is $150 more than the Focus. Besides a slightly larger screen, are there any other differences between these two, or are you just paying more for the HTC brand name?
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HTC name and it's newer.
I saw the HD7S for $49 briefly @ att.com now it's back to $149. Still the Focus is the better phone still due to 4" super amoled screen and larger battery (1550 mah). If you want to play around with microsd cards it's also capable of more storage and has faster built in nand memory than the HTC devices.
Sept 1 mango press blackout life should reveal more devices, i expect the HD7S to come down in price regardless. The only reason to get the HD7S imho would be if the 4.3" screen is necessary visually or for typing.

Ah I forgot some new phones will come out with the Mango official release. I guess I'll just wait a few more weeks to get a better selection or lower price.
Probably old news but this looks hot (if it somehow makes it past concept):
In short, these are main specifications of Nokia W10:
Main display
Touchscreen 4.5 inch (1280 x 720 pixels)
Processor
2 GHz Quad-Core (2 GB RAM and GPU)
Memory
32GB Internal (External up to 64 GB microSD)
Connectivity
Quad-4G LTE frequency bands
Battery
Li-Ion 2000 mAh
Camera
15 MP rear and 5 MP front
(Carl Zeiss optics and Dual Xenon flash)
TV-out
1080p video
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http ://www .mobilenewsbreak.com/2011/07/nokia-w10-quad-core-smartphone-with-wp7.html

Booyaah82 said:
Ah I forgot some new phones will come out with the Mango official release. I guess I'll just wait a few more weeks to get a better selection or lower price.
Probably old news but this looks hot (if it somehow makes it past concept):
http ://www .mobilenewsbreak.com/2011/07/nokia-w10-quad-core-smartphone-with-wp7.html
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It's only a concept, I wouldn't expect the Quad Cores for another yr or so. Plus, WP7 only supports 480x800 Resolution @ 262 DPI. Mango didn't change this. If anything, that'd be a WP8 Concept IMO.

It's too early to have that kind of phone, I believe next 2 years than its going to be built.

HTC One X -VS- Samsung Galaxy SIII

The flagship of Samsung is now up and whoa! That is some latest piece of tech.
Specifications:
Samsung Galaxy SIII:
4.8" 720p SUPER AMOLED (pentile) Display.
1.4 GHz Quad Core.
8MP rear / 1.9MP front camera.
2100 mAh battery
16/32GB storage (64 coming soon) with sd card slot.
ICS with Touchwiz 4.0
HTC ONE X:
4.7" 720p Super LCD2 Display.
1.5 GHz Quad core.
8MP rear / 1.3MP front camera.
1800mAh battery.
32GB internal storage with no SD Card slot.
ICS with HTC Sense 4.0
My Opinion:
Well, specs ain't the only thing. The overall performance, feel in hand and overall experience of the phone really counts. I don't think it's a big leap forward as we already know HTC ONE X is a beast in itself.
I prefer HOX because I don't like touchwiz UI of Samsung and the build quality is better in HTC ofcourse.
Many people will go against me and that's how it goes in the world.
* Sense 4.0 is better than touchwiz.
* ImageSense is better than SIII camera.
* 1.5 GHz quad core (penta core to be precise) is better than 1.4 GHz Quad Core.
* The shape is actually better than SIII. Didn't like the shape of SIII. The shape is a serious letdown for me.
*I'll vote for One X against SIII*
IMPORTANT NOTE:
Buy the one you like. Vote for the one you admire. This sort of competition is good for the new technology. And at the end of the day THE BEST phone is one which is in your hands.
Enjoy your phone. Enjoy the talks.
Like THIS for a compliment.
Would love to listen from you people.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Have you owned both devices personally yet? Until you've had both side by side doing the same exact things then there is no way to properly determined.which is superior. Benchmarks are worthless. Seems you're already on Team HTC's bandwagon so you're mind is made up. There will be a billion GS3 posts on XDA and they will all won't be worth a ****.

rdubyah said:
Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Have you owned both devices personally yet? Until.you've had both side by side doing the same exact things then there is no way to properly determined.which is superior. Benchmarks are worthless.
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Yeah benchmarks are useless. That's why I didn't bring them into discussion.
I'm comparing the SPECS ONLY and there you see One X smashes SGSIII.
SGIII is built of polycarbonate as well but coated a sort of plastic layer (don't remember the name exactly) and that's ridiculous.
The bright shiny 720p SUPER LCD2 outclasses Pentile 720p Super Amoled.
Sent from my HTC Desire

mohsinraza said:
Yeah benchmarks are useless. That's why I didn't bring them into discussion.
I'm comparing the SPECS ONLY and there you see One X smashes SGSIII.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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lmao biased much? only thing that is better is the screen.
Polycarbonate comes at the expense of microSD and (smaller) built in battery. Along with better battery you can pull out GS3 has a 32nm SOC instead of 40something which also saves battery and heats less.
Maybe the 7th One X you'll return will be on par with GS3.
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BTW Touchwiz vs Sense is kinda pointless as it depends on user preference, and anyhow were on XDA and you know how easy it is to just flash something different.

HTC..is interesting..very interesting

mohsinraza said:
The flagship of Samsung is now up and whoa! That is some latest piece of tech.
Specifications:
Samsung Galaxy SIII:
4.8" 720p SUPER AMOLED (pentile) Display.
1.4 GHz Quad Core.
8MP rear / 1.9MP front camera.
2100 mAh battery
16/32GB storage (64 coming soon) with sd card slot.
ICS with Touchwiz 4.0
HTC ONE X:
4.7" 720p Super LCD2 Display.
1.5 GHz Quad core.
8MP rear / 1.3MP front camera.
1800mAh battery.
32GB internal storage with no SD Card slot.
ICS with HTC Sense 4.0
My Opinion:
Well, specs ain't the only thing. The overall performance, feel in hand and overall experience of the phone really counts. I don't think it's a big leap forward as we already know HTC ONE X is a beast in itself.
I prefer HOX because I don't like touchwiz UI of Samsung and the build quality is better in HTC ofcourse.
Many people will go against me and that's how it goes in the world.
* Sense 4.0 is better than touchwiz.
* ImageSense is better than SIII camera.
* 1.5 GHz quad core (penta core to be precise) is better than 1.4 GHz Quad Core.
* The shape is actually better than SIII. Didn't like the shape of SIII. The shape is a serious letdown for me.
*I'll vote for One X against SIII*
IMPORTANT NOTE:
Buy the one you like. Vote for the one you admire. This sort of competition is good for the new technology. And at the end of the day THE BEST phone is one which is in your hands.
Enjoy your phone. Enjoy the talks.
Like THIS for a compliment.
Would love to listen from you people.
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Omg. Galaxy S3 GPU and CPU is much much better and best CPU and GPU on a mobile. New GPU is 400mhz. Just WTF. Even screen is best screen until today. I don't care about fancy stuff but new touchwiz is better than sense for me. REMEMBER THIS. Galaxy S with froyo have HW accelerated browser because of touchwiz. No one can touch S3 now. Tell me about glup. Byes.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA

mohsinraza said:
Yeah benchmarks are useless. That's why I didn't bring them into discussion.
I'm comparing the SPECS ONLY and there you see One X smashes SGSIII.
SGIII is built of polycarbonate as well but coated a sort of plastic layer (don't remember the name exactly) and that's ridiculous.
The bright shiny 720p SUPER LCD2 outclasses Pentile 720p Super Amoled.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Really interesting guys! There are 2 chances.
1- You didn't see a amoled screen.
2- You don't know about specs. Because One X doesn't have chance to own SGS3. Like S2 and Sensation. Even my sgs1 is faster and more ram than sensation.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA

burakgon said:
Omg. Galaxy S3 GPU and CPU is much much better and best CPU and GPU on a mobile. New GPU is 400mhz. Just WTF. Even screen is best screen until today. I don't care about fancy stuff but new touchwiz is better than sense for me. REMEMBER THIS. Galaxy S with froyo have HW accelerated browser because of touchwiz. No one can touch S3 now. Tell me about glup. Byes.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA
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CPU & GPU won't make a difference until you play games HD games on the phone all day long. And for daily workings both are more than enough.
Whoa! You're kiddin' me. The pentile display is way too awkward. THIS IS NOT THE BEST SCREEN.
UI may come down to personal preference so not in discussion.
nebsif said:
lmao biased much? only thing that is better is the screen.
Polycarbonate comes at the expense of microSD and (smaller) built in battery. Along with better battery you can pull out GS3 has a 32nm SOC instead of 40something which also saves battery and heats less.
Maybe the 7th One X you'll return will be on par with GS3.
BTW Touchwiz vs Sense is kinda pointless as it depends on user preference, and anyhow were on XDA and you know how easy it is to just flash something different.
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32nm and 40nm actually have NO serious difference. Even S4 Snapdragon being 28mm isn't a outdated product. This actually is a no difference. Fifth core on One X is assigned to do the job as you've mentioned, less heat & longer battery.
Sent from my HTC Desire

Both of them are great but I prefer Huawei ascend quad XL it has better specs

mohsinraza said:
32nm and 40nm actually have NO serious difference. Even S4 Snapdragon being 28mm isn't a outdated product. This actually is a no difference. Fifth core on One X is assigned to do the job as you've mentioned, less heat & longer battery.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Sorry, but you're very very very wrong here. The difference between 40 and 32 is 20% less battery power for any given task. Between 40 and 28 is closer to 40% less battery usage.
Fifth core on Tegra 3 is technically retarded. Read Nvidia's white paper. The CPU can't have the fifth core on at the same time as any of the others, so Tegra 3 only saves battery power if you're not actually using your phone and it's only doing background tasks while the screen is off.
Furthermore, Tegra 3 has no dynamic voltage control. So if you were to watch a movie on a T3 device, and your email refreshes in the background, it would use the same processor power and clock speed as watching 2 movies at the same time. Both Krait S4 and Exynos 4 have dynamic voltage control.
Personally, I'd rather not have either device and wait for the LTE Padfone.

I had a SGS2... Moved from that to HTC One X because i just couldn't stand their TouchWiz UI..
The development on the SGS2 haven't been as i hoped, mainly due to their drivers.
Sorry, but i will stick with my HTC One X

sreza said:
Personally, I'd rather not have either device and wait for the LTE Padfone.
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What is the price of the Padphone at the release? I know you can preorder it around 1000 dollars

thatdefault said:
What is the price of the Padphone at the release? I know you can preorder it around 1000 dollars
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If you do a comparison vs what you would pay otherwise, it's actually much cheaper to get a Padfone than the alternatives.
Padfone+Padfone Station+Station Dock+BT stylus= ~$1000
Est. cost for data on ATT: $20-50 depending on plan size, $30 unlimited if you're grandfathered in like me
Apple:
iPhone 4S= $600
iPad 3rd gen= $600
BT keyboard case= $50
Total: $1250
Est. cost for data on ATT: $65 per month
Android:
HTC One X= $650
Transformer Prime+KB Dock= $700
Total: $1350
Est. cost for data on ATT: $65 per month
So you actually save at least $250 initially, and another $360-$1080 from data costs (Calculated using ATT required 5gb plan for data tethering= $65 per month, cheapest alternate for separate data plans is $55 per month).
If you're a particularly frugal data user, the Padfone system will actually pay for itself and leave you $80 further in the black than you were before your purchase compared to the alternatives!

All of these international One X fans need to remember that the dual core AT&T One X beats out the quad core international tegra 3 version in terms of performance. The quad core exynos is going to SMASH the One X! That being said, I still like the One X better. The SGSIII is like the GNEX's ugly little sister.

The problem is phones are very expensive here and the price won't go down anytime soon the price of galaxy S II is higher than neighboring countries and the price went up when the G model was announced Asus products are very expensive here TF 101 + keyboard dock costs more than the prime + dock. Thank God Dubai isn't far

lowandbehold said:
All of these international One X fans need to remember that the dual core AT&T One X beats out the quad core international tegra 3 version in terms of performance. The quad core exynos is going to SMASH the One X! That being said, I still like the One X better. The SGSIII is like the GNEX's ugly little sister.
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Why would the Exynos chip in the SG3 be faster than the Tegra 3 in the One X?
They're both A9 chips, Exynos is clocked at 1.4 while Tegra 3 is clocked at 1.5. Sure, the Exynos chip has wonderful features like the 32nm build and dynamic voltage control, but those only affect how efficiently it uses the battery. What affects speed is your Cortex class (both A9) and your clock speed, in which case Tegra 3 should theoretically perform slightly better.
I'm pretty sure any speed differences are going to come down to the differences between TouchWiz and Sense, not the specs on the phone.
And therefore, ATT One XL with the extended battery and the Krait S4 chip will probably perform better than the SG3 by the same degree that testing shows that it already performs better than the Tegra 3 One X.

Both of these phones have pretty awesome specs, so in that respect, I think personal preference is going to overrule anything else.
BUT, I have the Amaze 4G, and HTC has made it impossible (so far) to make a ROM that isn't based on their own Sense based ROM. As far as what I can see, HTC's One line is going to be even harder to develop. I enjoy trying different ROMs way too much to stick with HTC from this point forward (unless HTC changes their evil ways ).
As far as the different launchers, I haven't ever really liked a stock launcher on Samsung, HTC, or even LG (I think Cyanogenmod finally got it right with Trebuchet in their CM9 builds). I almost always put in a custom launcher.

i like samsung galaxy s3
ram management in htc one x is si bad

Let's take a look at the facts:
Screen :We will see who has the better screen when the reviews are released.
Proccesor :As shown on the becnhmarks the SGS3 is the faster one.
GPU :Again the SGS3 as shown by the recent benchmarks
Battery :SGS3 has an exchangable batter the HTC One X does not.SGS3 has also the bigger battery.
MicroSD :SGS3
Front camera :SGS3 again 1.3 vs 2.0 MPX
Back camera :Still unknown who has the better camera,but that will be revelead soon.
Storage:SGS3 again 64 GB + micro SD ,HTC ONE X 32 GB no microsd
Design :That's a matter of taste.
The SGS3 is obviously the better phone hardware wise plus it has many more features like eye tracking and S voice that the HTC ONE X lacks.

- UI I could care less what each has. I'm an XDA member and never have stock... lol.
- Processors sound like they'll be identical on the US phones, so that's a non-issue for me as well.
- HTC's lack of SD is a bit worrisome for me since the US only has 16 GB. That may limit what I can store, especially as apps get bigger and bigger. So there's one mark against the One X for me.
- Screens, the Galaxy is a tiny bit bigger, but I need to see peoples reviews that have been able to spend time with both to judge. What's on paper doesn't always matter.
- Camera is kind of important to me. I'm sick of my Captivates crappy camera. Reviews of the One X make it sound like it's awesome. I haven't seen much mention of the S3's yet besides "it looks good". Will have to see how reviewers rate it. It also sounded like the models they were showcasing weren't the final product for the camera either or am I just imagining things?
- GPS is important to me too. Again.. Captivate.... OMG!! I've heard nothing bad yet about the One X, and heard nothing about the S3, so we'll see.
- Aesthetics, build quality, etc... meh, whatever. It's a phone. It sits in my pocket. It goes in my hand and I look at the screen. I don't really care all that much what other people think of my phone while I'm mesmerized by the screen. If panels are falling off, buttons breaking etc. yeah that's bad but I'm pretty confident that won't happen on either phone.
So given that the One X already has a mark against it due to the lack of SD card slot and tiny 16 GB storage (I'm on a 2 GB plan, not unlimited so cloud and stuff isn't a very viable option for me) the S3 would have to have a crappy camera and or faulty GPS for me to consider the One X over it I think.

HTC Sensation to HTC One X

What do you guys think? would it be worth it for the larger and sharper screen? plus quad core? the real drawback would be lack of SD card, would drop box be a solution? (battery wont be an issue since I would replace it with a Mugen extended battery when they release it)
PS: Galaxy S 3 is not physically attractive to me, and even with slightly better specs it still wont come with HTC Sense.
Thoughts? thanks

ALEXRUSS55 said:
What do you guys think? would it be worth it for the larger and sharper screen? plus quad core? the real drawback would be lack of SD card, would drop box be a solution? (battery wont be an issue since I would replace it with a Mugen extended battery when they release it)
PS: Galaxy S 3 is not physically attractive to me, and even with slightly better specs it still wont come with HTC Sense.
Thoughts? thanks
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Hi,
I believe that battery replacement might be an issue.
To quote from an article:
"Another thing worth noting about the one-piece chassis is that there’s no way to access the 1,800 mAh battery. You’re stuck with it for the life of your phone unless you send the unit in for professional servicing."

ALEXRUSS55 said:
What do you guys think? would it be worth it for the larger and sharper screen? plus quad core? the real drawback would be lack of SD card, would drop box be a solution? (battery wont be an issue since I would replace it with a Mugen extended battery when they release it)
PS: Galaxy S 3 is not physically attractive to me, and even with slightly better specs it still wont come with HTC Sense.
Thoughts? thanks
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Why not ONE S It's the same size as sensation and to be honest. x is too big..
Max size is 4.3" for personal preference
Sent w/ HTC Sensation 4G (Z710a) XDA Premium

And its not Quad Core and no removable battery and no SD card and Sensation is still one of the most superior phones out there

I would go with something with a SD slot and removable battery.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using XDA

Is it worth to upgrade from One S to One X+?

From the title itself, is it worth to upgrade to One X+? I mean, one downfall of the One X, is faster battery drain compared to the One S.. and the One S seems to be so much faster than the One X, but now the One X+ have a different chipset and now having a 2100 mAh battery.. do you think it's worth it? I've read some posts in the One X+'s forum that the battery is improved but not that much.. but now, they managed to have 4-5 hrs screen time, which is not by far from the One S.. and the JB and Sense 4+ is buttery smooth compared to the X's stock.. can the One S still beat the One X+?
Btw, i also do like the 64gb storage because 16gb isn't quite enough for me being a mobile gamer and a music lover, that's why i'm considering the upgrade..
Sent from my HTC One S (S4)

Probably not chase you can get the one + battery for the one s and jelly bean with sense4+ is coming at the end on november. USB otg works in jellybean so you can have more storage and tegra 3 is slow compared to other quad cores on the market and it run incredibly hot during gaming.

Possible new phone advice

I have been using this phone for 3 years now and think it is time to move on. I have been given a good deal on a moto g 4g and wondered if anyone can think of a reason not to move. It's a similar spec phone with quad core instead of dual. Has a smaller camera tho.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Cheers

razlack said:
I have been using this phone for 3 years now and think it is time to move on. I have been given a good deal on a moto g 4g and wondered if anyone can think of a reason not to move. It's a similar spec phone with quad core instead of dual. Has a smaller camera tho.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Cheers
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I have the One (M7) for a year now and I have to say for a 2 year old phone, it really holds it's build quality. The speakers are amazing, the screen is crystal clear and it has Lollipop + Sense 6. We won't get Sense 7 officially but I'm 100% sure we will get a very functional port of Sense 7. The only downside is the camera. If your not too concerned about that then I think you should go for it. If not, I would suggest the Moto G (2014) or the Sony Xperia Z1/Z3 Compact, you can't go wrong with any of them

If you really liked you One S, you can go to something similar like the M8, or if you can wait for a couple of days, get your hands on the new HTC One M9.

One good reason to wait: wait for a real new ARM64 phone. The Moto G 4G (2014) is still a SnapDragon 400 with Krait cores I believe, so nothing really new from our One S.
I would wait for a cheap Motorola with ARM64 cores for less than 200$.

razlack said:
I have been using this phone for 3 years now and think it is time to move on. I have been given a good deal on a moto g 4g and wondered if anyone can think of a reason not to move. It's a similar spec phone with quad core instead of dual. Has a smaller camera tho.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Cheers
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2734554&page=19
We already have a thread talk about this.
Moto G 4G is real a very bad choice, only a 4.5" 720P, S400, 1G ram, 8GB rom(though with microSD slot). Nothing real better and camera is a downgrade to 5MP.
I'm still using One S as a spare phone and upgraded to Sony Z1 Compact since last year. If budget is a major concern, you should get Z1c because it is cheap now should only a bit expensive than Moto G 4G but with a hardware much much better(4.3" 720P, S800, 2G ram, 16GB, microSD, LTE, 20MP camera, IPX67, 2300mah). Lollipop got delayed but will arrive on this phone probably around May/June.
But since now I've two small phones, I think it's too many. I'm going to sell out Z1c and upgrade again in April/May sometimes and give Galaxy S6 a try because the phone is quite small and slim this time to the 5.1" size.
If you have more money then get Sony Z3 Compact with bigger screen(4.6" but still same size with Z1c and One S), battery life and camera is even more better. If you can wait for like half year, Z4c will probably out on Sep.

I have used one S for 3 years too.
It's my first android phone, and I have a good time with it.
A lot of great developers have worked on this phone, they become a story!
I think Oneplus ONE is a great phone.
HTC M9 is great too!

3 years here also
i want to move to the new phone too. thinkng about new nexus or wait for the new LG

I'm going to buy a new phone in my summer vacation......Probably OnePlus
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