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Will native email from ICS work on Gingerbread?

As anyone who uses IMAP on a Gingerbread or earlier ROM will tell you, mail sent from the phone is NOT synchronized to the server, completely contrary to the intent of that protocol. Might as well be using POP instead.
It looks like that problem has been solved with ICS. I was wondering if its possible to somehow get the native ICS mail app installed on an earlier ROM, and if so, how one might go about doing so.
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My email syncs to my IMAP work account, I just had to setup a second sent items folder. Email I send from my laptop goes to one sent items, from my phone to a different one. Well I didn't set it up my IT dept did but there is a way to do it.
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geologistguy said:
My email syncs to my IMAP work account, I just had to setup a second sent items folder. Email I send from my laptop goes to one sent items, from my phone to a different one. Well I didn't set it up my IT dept did but there is a way to do it.
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Nope. I think you're mistaken. Messages sent from the handset are stored on the machine, and are not uploaded to the server. This is a known Android big which has been fixed in ICS, but is still a problem for earlier versions.
If you are in fact correct, then it sounds like your IT department might have found a workaround. Speak with them and confirm Can you ask them what they did?
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Nope. I think you're mistaken. Messages sent from the handset are stored on the machine, and are not uploaded to the server. This is a known Android big which has been fixed in ICS, but is still a problem for earlier versions.
If you are in fact correct, then it sounds like your IT department might have found a workaround. Speak with them and confirm Can you ask them what they did?
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Here is the answer. IMAP saves sent items in an inbox.sent folder and outlook saves sent items in a sent items folder. Usually only one of these is selected in the folder options.
Go to your outlook (I assume you use outlook) and go to Tools, Account Settings, double click on the email account, select the folders tab and look for sent items and sent folders. One will be checked and the other will not be. Add a check to whichever is not checked so both are selected, you should be done. Hope this helps.

geologistguy said:
Here is the answer. IMAP saves sent items in an inbox.sent folder and outlook saves sent items in a sent items folder. Usually only one of these is selected in the folder options.
Go to your outlook (I assume you use outlook) and go to Tools, Account Settings, double click on the email account, select the folders tab and look for sent items and sent folders. One will be checked and the other will not be. Add a check to whichever is not checked so both are selected, you should be done. Hope this helps.
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Here's where I think you're mistaken.
Android versions prior to ICS do NOT save outgoing messages to the server through the native email app. This is a known problem. Check the below post for my comments, and google 'android not saving IMAP sent' or terms similar, and you'll see what I mean.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941353
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This is pointless, I have always got my phone sent items in outlook on my IMAP email, whether or not you choose to believe it I could care less.
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geologistguy said:
This is pointless, I have always got my phone sent items in outlook on my IMAP email, whether or not you choose to believe it I could care less.
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It's not pointless for those of us who have the problem, unless you're suggesting that all the people in these threads are suffering from the same mass delusion. If you don't have the problem, then whoopee for you, but frankly you're not helping here. If you don't have the problem and you don't have a solution, maybe your time would be better spent in another thread.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1811
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/te...ns/165301-d3-imap-not-saving-sent-server.html
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f12/how-to-set-sent-mail-folder-for-imap-mail-22540/

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It's not pointless for those of us who have the problem, unless you're suggesting that all the people in these threads are suffering from the same mass delusion. If you don't have the problem, then whoopee for you, but frankly you're not helping here. If you don't have the problem and you don't have a solution, maybe your time would be better spent in another thread.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1811
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/te...ns/165301-d3-imap-not-saving-sent-server.html
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f12/how-to-set-sent-mail-folder-for-imap-mail-22540/
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Look, I told you the solution, did you turn on the other sent folder or create one if it wasn't there? If you didn't even try then do so. If you did and it still didn't work then I have no idea because this is how my IT guy fixed it. Perhaps our mail servers are setup differently from yours.
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geologistguy said:
Look, I told you the solution
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Really?
I think I've had about enough of your attitude.
You have no technical background yourself, you tell me that your IT department did 'something' to make it work and then have the temerity to suggest I'm either too ignorant or too lazy to try your idea. Obviously I've been through all your 'suggestions' otherwise I wouldn't have posted the links which YOU obviously haven't bothered looking at yourself.
This is a known Android problem and if you can't help answer the question about how to get the ICS native email app to function properly on a Gingerbread ROM, then please spare me any of your further inane posts.

Wow! Sorry to but in but the forums are a little slow and I am bored. Just had ankle surgery and few inches of snow on the ground has me stuck inside. Bill, geologistguy did offer help with a workable solution. Googling the net has shown that what he has stated has worked for some. And I really don't see where he gave you any attitude. Seems your anger needs directed at the android OS and not him.
Getting the thread closed isn't going to help anyone out.

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Wow! Sorry to but in but the forums are a little slow and I am bored. Just had ankle surgery and few inches of snow on the ground has me stuck inside. Bill, geologistguy did offer help with a workable solution. Googling the net has shown that what he has stated has worked for some. And I really don't see where he gave you any attitude. Seems your anger needs directed at the android OS and not him.
Getting the thread closed isn't going to help anyone out.
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Wow. Seems everyone is an analyst today.
Ok, here's the point.
His solution is NOT workable. Not on this ROM or handset, at least, and there's ample evidence provided to that end.
When someone doesn't read the post to apprehend the problem, answers a question that isn't asked, makes assumptions about what you've tried or not tried, offers tips that are not germane to the question (IMAP sent items not synchronizing to the server from Android has nothing to do with Outlook configuration) and then uses the words "this is pointless" and subsequently "look, I told you the answer" when given specific links to research the problem, then THAT'S where the attitude is. And I'll thank YOU to please not exacerbate the situation.
That said, hope your ankle is feeling better... it gives you a great reason to not have to shovel the snow. ;-)

Have you tried that K-9 email application? I know we shouldn't have to have another 3rd party app to do what stock should but from I seen in my searching it does what you want. Also gives your battery some exercise too. Gets good reviews and it is free.

Agoattamer said:
Have you tried that K-9 email application? I know we shouldn't have to have another 3rd party app to do what stock should but from I seen in my searching it does what you want. Also gives your battery some exercise too. Gets good reviews and it is free.
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I agree with your point. Actually, I've been using Enhanced Email which is quite nice, but has some shortcomings. The native app, given its tight integration with the OS and more robust synchronization settings, would likely be the better choice. That's why I've been on a search to find a fix for the native app, or find a way to 'port' the new (properly functioning) native Email app from ICS to Gingerbread.

Gotcha! Keep your fingers crossed as you never know what might happen on XDA. Just yesterday I finally updated to a new 2.3.5 ROM from the WCX Illuminati Series. I was using an almost stock version of 2.3.3 from Juicy. But evidentally this new ROM supports the MAP bluetooth protocol. So now my text messages and possibly my emails may be seen on my truck Headunit when they come in. Haven't tried it yet for obvious reasons though.

[Request] Switch default 'New Contact' save location to Gmail instead of phone.

This may be a bit picky, but there I have found no way to set the default location a new contact is added to. By default, contacts are saved to the phone, but I use Gmail. I never remember to change when I'm trying to get all these girls numbers (yeah right) so it would be nice to have the default save to Gmail.
If anyone has an idea let me know!
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You can hit menu, settings, manage contacts, then copy, and choose to google.
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Thanks. Yeah I used that, but my problem is remembering that they even got saved in the wrong spot. I'm going to clear data one day and lose numbers.
I just want the default option in a new contact to save to Gmail. My Inspire on Sense 3.5 had the option.
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Hi Buddy,
Mine always save to Gmail.
Pretty sure this will do it.
When you're in people click phone book in the top left and only select Google.
Otherwise just remember to select Google when you create the contact - mine seems to default to Google though.
**Edit** I realise that is just what displays in the phonebook so it probably doesn't make a difference.
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Actually I've noticed this too and I'd much prefer to save to Gmail then the phone. How do I do that?
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This drives me nuts too.
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Ive lost tons of numbers because of this. none of my other android phones did this. they always defaulted to google.

thejosh86 said:
Hi Buddy,
Mine always save to Gmail.
Pretty sure this will do it.
When you're in people click phone book in the top left and only select Google.
Otherwise just remember to select Google when you create the contact - mine seems to default to Google though.
**Edit** I realise that is just what displays in the phonebook so it probably doesn't make a difference.
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Yes. I've tried this and it does not work. I thought the same as you when I saw it.
nugzo said:
Ive lost tons of numbers because of this. none of my other android phones did this. they always defaulted to google.
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Yup. I got a number at a bar the other night and obviously after a couple drinks I couldn't remember to select Gmail. My old Inspire had an option to select the default save to
Glad I'm not the only one annoyed by this. Wish I was smart enough to be able to do it myself, but I hope someone can work up a fix.
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Hey Buddy,
I know this sounds like BS but what I said earlier actually works for me - I actually tested it this time... haha
When I tick phone whilst google is selected then back out of it or hit phonebook again it reloads the people view then when I hit add phone is now default location.
Then I unticked phone hit back or phonebook again - people reloaded again and when I went into add Google was the default.

thejosh86 said:
Hey Buddy,
I know this sounds like BS but what I said earlier actually works for me - I actually tested it this time... haha
When I tick phone whilst google is selected then back out of it or hit phonebook again it reloads the people view then when I hit add phone is now default location.
Then I unticked phone hit back or phonebook again - people reloaded again and when I went into add Google was the default.
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didnt work for me. even with phone unticked and contacts not showing for phone, only google, i add a new contact and it still goes to phone. how do you get it from phone in to google? wen i try to import from phone it says it cant find a vcard on phone.
Edit: figured out how to copy phone contacts to google, was mentioned earlier.... but you have to copy them all! you cant choose what you want. This is some messed up stuff. I think i'll try the aosp contacts instead.

Five hot chicks were lost on this sad day because of this bull
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nugzo said:
didnt work for me. even with phone unticked and contacts not showing for phone, only google, i add a new contact and it still goes to phone. how do you get it from phone in to google? wen i try to import from phone it says it cant find a vcard on phone.
Edit: figured out how to copy phone contacts to google, was mentioned earlier.... but you have to copy them all! you cant choose what you want. This is some messed up stuff. I think i'll try the aosp contacts instead.
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Didn't work for me either...
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just a little bump....hoping this bothers Scott as much as it bothers us, and he will look into it!!

buddy17 said:
just a little bump....hoping this bothers Scott as much as it bothers us, and he will look into it!!
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I know right. This is a pretty big damn bug if you ask me. Probably one of the biggest if you rely on dependable contacts and phone numbers. It wouldn't be so bad for the everyday user but we are constantly formatting our phones. It was never never ever never an issue before. Everything was saved n Google period. Why do we even need separate sim and phone contacts? I wonder if it has something to do with ATT contacts app. Has anyone called ATTor HTC?

nugzo said:
I know right. This is a pretty big damn bug if you ask me. Probably one of the biggest if you rely on dependable contacts and phone numbers. It wouldn't be so bad for the everyday user but we are constantly formatting our phones. It was never never ever never an issue before. Everything was saved n Google period. Why do we even need separate sim and phone contacts? I wonder if it has something to do with ATT contacts app. Has anyone called ATTor HTC?
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I bet you just hit the nail on the head about the AT&T contacts. If you have android there is absolutely NO reason not to sync with gmail. We shouldn't have to make sure we're choosing it every effen time.
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What are the exact files needed to swap the dialer and contacts from sense to aosp? I'd be willing to switch.

bumpppp!!

droidiac13 said:
I bet you just hit the nail on the head about the AT&T contacts. If you have android there is absolutely NO reason not to sync with gmail. We shouldn't have to make sure we're choosing it every effen time.
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This issue is also on the international version as well so it's most likely some stupid oversight on htc's part. Tried looking through some files in apk to see if it may be an easy switch but have not found anything yet but will keep looking
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E.Cadro said:
This issue is also on the international version as well so it's most likely some stupid oversight on htc's part. Tried looking through some files in apk to see if it may be an easy switch but have not found anything yet but will keep looking
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Thank you very much. Good to know you are trying.

You are not picky buddy. It is annoying.

what's app alternative for tablet

So for the past year or so I've been using whatsapp. The main reasons? It's cross platform and the ability to group instant message. My parents, sister, wife, in law's... My entire family has adopted it on my account. And it's great, for mobile phones. But yesterday I bought a nexus 7 and discovered it won't work on tablets. So basically I'm now trying to find either a way to get it to work on the nexus (preferably) or any alternative that suits our needs.
Basically, it's a cry for help. But I'd love to hear from you guys. Any suggestions are welcome.
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did you try whatsapp+ you can find it at this forum?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1624514
i am not sure if it can work with tablets but at least you can give it a try.

strange... it does work on my nexus7 and even my tab 7.7

It won't even install. Play says device is not compatible.
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Ekril said:
did you try whatsapp+ you can find it at this forum?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1624514
i am not sure if it can work with tablets but at least you can give it a try.
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Didn't work. The new verification code is 6 digits. But even if it weren't, pretty sure it wouldn't work. Anything else?
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Titanium backup from a phone... restore on the tablet... (root only!!)

It works on my Samsung tab 2,u need A SIM card with a working phone number, as of note there's no equal alternative to whatsapp,Facebook plans to buy it,
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sanghaviraj said:
It works on my Samsung tab 2,u need A SIM card with a working phone number, as of note there's no equal alternative to whatsapp,Facebook plans to buy it,
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Rumors (in other words, not necessarily true or false, but not confirmed).
I'd suggest you use something like Skype, GTalk or another IM that doesn't use phone numbers for verification. Obviously, it will be harder to add friends since it's not automatic, but you're not going to find any app that uses your contacts' phone numbers directly and your number without verification as that's a real issue.
Even if you could get Whatsapp to work on your tablet, it doesn't support two devices at once (your other device will be desactivated), so I'd really suggest you don't root your tablet and get a backup app just to try that that. Of course, it has its advantages, but it won't be useful in this case.

here what i done on mine
whatsapp application need a phone number verification which ll provide a code over text or phone call so i suggest to use a different phone number since you choose your tablet or cell-phone if you use the same number, since you cant run on both
try this download the apk over computer and transfer to u memory card or use a file host as dropbox to simply download and install
visit to download http://www.whatsapp.com/android/
and now use your home-phone or another number different as the one you use on cell-phone or try google voice if you are in the US
now just input telephone number and request a code over phonecall which is faster and get the code when the app request it just input the code and you are set!
hope helps or get the idea to accomplished what you need
Thanks for watching

GermainZ said:
Rumors (in other words, not necessarily true or false, but not confirmed).
I'd suggest you use something like Skype, GTalk or another IM that doesn't use phone numbers for verification. Obviously, it will be harder to add friends since it's not automatic, but you're not going to find any app that uses your contacts' phone numbers directly and your number without verification as that's a real issue.
Even if you could get Whatsapp to work on your tablet, it doesn't support two devices at once (your other device will be desactivated), so I'd really suggest you don't root your tablet and get a backup app just to try that that. Of course, it has its advantages, but it won't be useful in this case.
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I'm going with Skype. If does what I need. But both Skype and GTalk have a problem : neither support android 4.2 multi user. This is a problem. What I am trying to do is consolidate my Android experience. Both me and the wife have Android phones. Now we purchased the tablet for browsing at home and such. When out and about we use the phones to keep in touch with other connected family members and friends using Skype. When at home, we want to be able to reply from whatever device we are interacting with. If I'm in my session on the Nexus, I want to reply from there. Don't want to have to get up and go get the phone. Same for the wife. As main user, I can do this. But I can't get it to work for the wife's profile. At least not without logging out of Skype before switching profiles.
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[Q] Replace Android with W8.1

Has anyone replaced the Android ROM with W8.1 Successfully? If so where would we find the W 8.1 ROM.

There hasn't been any progress with this yet as it calls for a person to literally open their phone and dump the entire os and then more than likely adjust the partitions and such for the regular m8s. There's already a few threads on this subject with this information in them. If we do see any type of port it will probably be a while before we see anything from it.

I'm excited. I hope the devs are successful.

Just wondering why on earth anyone would want a windows phone?

sco77 said:
Just wondering why on earth anyone would want a windows phone?
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Hey now, no judging.....
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sco77 said:
Just wondering why on earth anyone would want a windows phone?
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Its mostly just having the option of going back and forth. I hate wp but I can't say I wouldnt dual boot if presented the option.

Reminds me of the HD2 days.

I think it'd be really cool to have the option.

sco77 said:
Just wondering why on earth anyone would want a windows phone?
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Simple. I'd like to try it out, without having to commit.
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Lodingi said:
Simple. I'd like to try it out, without having to commit.
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My thoughts exactly, I have only ever played with WP in the store and that doesn't give you a feel of what every day life with the OS would be like.

Definitely would love to give it a shot
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I used to have a 928 and I loved it... I used to switch between my HD maxx and that all the time it would be cool to swap back and forth on the same phone

sco77 said:
Just wondering why on earth anyone would want a windows phone?
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Windows phones and Blackberries (older ones, don't know about newer ones nor do I know about iPhones) have working, functional, usable email clients which, so far, has totally eluded Android. Email is important to me, not enough to give up my Android phone but maybe to some it is?
There may be other reasons but for some people having a working email app is huge!
Android email apps fall into two classifications:
1. Totally Sucks and
2. Worse than Totally Sucks.
NOTE: All the above applies to POP3, IMAP works OK on any phone but that's due to the nature of IMAP, not to the email client.

[Q] Retaining apps/texts/etc when changing handset

I'm looking at upgrading my HTC One XL to an HTC One Mini 2. I've found this article on Lifehacker on backing up apps and settings and such. Is that a) all still valid and b) going to work when moving from one type of handset to another? Anything else I need to do to get all my stuff over from my current handset to the new one?

Well i am mentioning some softwares
koberulz said:
I'm looking at upgrading my HTC One XL to an HTC One Mini 2. I've found this article on Lifehacker on backing up apps and settings and such. Is that a) all still valid and b) going to work when moving from one type of handset to another? Anything else I need to do to get all my stuff over from my current handset to the new one?
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if you are not rooted then install this app from playstore
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.idea.backup.smscontacts&hl=en
this app is great for backing up the call logs,calender,contacts.
if your are rooted and on custom recovery then you can go for titanium backup and create a zip.:good:

Also do note, if your phone is synced to Google, you can get all your contacts and apps (without settings) on your new device just by linking your new phone.
For app settings and SMS, you should probably do what @sachoosaini recommends.

App settings are not at all savable if you are not rooted. Well titaniuim backup is the medicine of your questions. And I the universe if the XDA known that on gmail you can restore your backup. But there are many people who are privacy conscious. they don't install Google apps. And rely on other markets ..
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sachoosaini said:
if you are not rooted then install this app from playstore
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.idea.backup.smscontacts&hl=en
this app is great for backing up the call logs,calender,contacts.
if your are rooted and on custom recovery then you can go for titanium backup and create a zip.:good:
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Yeah, the phone is rooted, and the new one will be as soon as I get it (or at least, that's the plan). My main concern was basically whether the LifeHacker article was still valid (it's three years old, which is forever with these things) and whether it would work when switching between two completely different handsets, rather than switching from my current One XL to a different One XL in the case of a lost or damaged phone, for example. They're still both HTC, and thus will both run Sense, which should avoid the biggest potential issue, but I want to make sure I've got everything sorted now, rather than trying it and having it not work.

koberulz said:
Yeah, the phone is rooted, and the new one will be as soon as I get it (or at least, that's the plan). My main concern was basically whether the LifeHacker article was still valid (it's three years old, which is forever with these things) and whether it would work when switching between two completely different handsets, rather than switching from my current One XL to a different One XL in the case of a lost or damaged phone, for example. They're still both HTC, and thus will both run Sense, which should avoid the biggest potential issue, but I want to make sure I've got everything sorted now, rather than trying it and having it not work.
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Well if they are HTC, they probably shipped with transfer data software. I remember it was bundled along with HTC sense framework Roms. It has features like SMS transfer contact transfer.
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sachoosaini said:
Well if they are HTC, they probably shipped with transfer data software. I remember it was bundled along with HTC sense framework Roms. It has features like SMS transfer contact transfer.
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That won't help with apps/app settings though, will it?

koberulz said:
That won't help with apps/app settings though, will it?
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Nope....titanium back will
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