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When is the Surface gonna be available to get preordered in the US? It can't be much longer since the RT version is coming out in two months. Google and Android OEM's let their consumers preorder their tabs many months before release. COME ON, MICROSOFT!
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Why the RT versionfrom what i heard the pro version will kick ass
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Why the RT versionfrom what i heard the pro version will kick ass
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Yeah it will, but it'll probably be significantly more expensive than RT as well.
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I already have enough for the RT version. If I get enough before release, i will get the Pro version. But Idk when they are releasing. Haha
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from what i have read the pro comes out 90 days after the RT and thats quite a while. I will get the RT im not looking to replace a pc but rather compliment it. I already have my desktop and its a beast lol.
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from what i have read the pro comes out 90 days after the RT and thats quite a while. I will get the RT im not looking to replace a pc but rather compliment it. I already have my desktop and its a beast lol.
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Exactly. But when is the preorder? My guess is that they will put them up for preorder as soon as they get the price figured out. God knows how long that will take lol.
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I contact Microsoft Germany when we can preorder / get a sample ... last week and they have absolutely no idea when / if it will be launched here. Seems there is still no clear strategy about the product rollout.
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from what i have read the pro comes out 90 days after the RT and thats quite a while. I will get the RT im not looking to replace a pc but rather compliment it. I already have my desktop and its a beast lol.
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I'm with you. Have two very beastly desktops and this will just compliment them. It's nice to have Office already included if I need to type up a few things using my keyboard/cover. lol
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I'm with you. Have two very beastly desktops and this will just compliment them. It's nice to have Office already included if I need to type up a few things using my keyboard/cover. lol
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Yea, I'll probably go with RT as well. Getting pretty impatient though.
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I doubt they will do pre order, but I could be wrong.
However Microsoft has another Launch Event on Oct.25/12.
The day before Windows 8 will go on sale, and I will bet all info for RT will be made clear.
That on Oct 26/12 RT will sell at retail stores and the Microsoft Store....with 32 stores set to open that day.
New Stores set to Open
I'll be in line (the night before)!!!!! A friend of mine has also said he wants to go see what will launch.
I want it now in Germany!!!!!!!!
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Yea, I'll probably go with RT as well. Getting pretty impatient though.
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Here here...getting impatient... especially since I just sold my ASUS Transformer Prime to have money to pay for a Surface RT. Plan on getting a Windows 8 Ultrabook early next year though.
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Here here...getting impatient... especially since I just sold my ASUS Transformer Prime to have money to pay for a Surface RT. Plan on getting a Windows 8 Ultrabook early next year though.
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I have been saving up money for the Surface before it was even announced haha. And with no job as a teenager, it wasn't easy. Now I have enough (hopefully) and October has to end!
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I've been having trouble with my old hp so I've been shopping around for a new Laptop. I'm wondering what folks thought of http://us.toshiba.com/computers/lap...mmc=qr-pr-walmart-l850-l855d-s5220&moreskus=0 Is it big enough for running SDK and other development tools?
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I've been having trouble with my old hp so I've been shopping around for a new Laptop. I'm wondering what folks thought of http://us.toshiba.com/computers/lap...mmc=qr-pr-walmart-l850-l855d-s5220&moreskus=0 Is it big enough for running SDK and other development tools?
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What's your budget? Are you planning on using win7 or Linux or both?
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That looks like it will more than handle what you need to do. I did find it for a bit less HERE . A big part of choosing a Laptop is the Budget you have to work with.
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I've been having trouble with my old hp so I've been shopping around for a new Laptop. I'm wondering what folks thought of http://us.toshiba.com/computers/lap...mmc=qr-pr-walmart-l850-l855d-s5220&moreskus=0 Is it big enough for running SDK and other development tools?
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I forgot to ask, are you going to be compiling from source?
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What's your budget? Are you planning on using win7 or Linux or both?
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Around $600. Both.
I'm not sure about compiling from source. Right now prboy1969 and I are trying to get the Android kitchen set up.
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Around $600. Both.
I'm not sure about compiling from source. Right now prboy1969 and I are trying to get the Android kitchen set up.
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There was something about the ACPI (or whatever lol its been a while since i dealt with it) where it wouldn't want to boot ubuntu, and if it did it was unusable and my CPU and fan would be at 100 percent.
It was a linux kernel issue, not a ubuntu-specific issue.
Wireless was also a toughie for me, but I was able to fix that no problem.
I'd look around on newegg.com before buying that toshiba just so you can get a feel of what you get for around $600 elsewhere.
But yes, that laptop should have more than enough muscle to do what you want it to do.
I'm running an Acer ( yes go ahead and laugh ) Dual Core Intel. Have had nothing but the Best of luck with it
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To better answer this, in the short term no. But as I continue to learn I think I might. What things should I consider looking for in a computer that can be used in this way?
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Hm, well I don't know about Toshibas being linux friendly.
I have a dualcore Satellite L505 and I had to wait for 2 ubuntu releases for it to work properly.
There was something about the ACPI (or whatever lol its been a while since i dealt with it) where it wouldn't want to boot ubuntu, and if it did it was unusable and my CPU and fan would be at 100 percent.
It was a linux kernel issue, not a ubuntu-specific issue.
Wireless was also a toughie for me, but I was able to fix that no problem.
I'd look around on newegg.com before buying that toshiba just so you can get a feel of what you get for around $600 elsewhere.
But yes, that laptop should have more than enough muscle to do what you want it to do.
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That has more to do with specific hardware then brand name.
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To better answer this, in the short term no. But as I continue to learn I think I might. What things should I consider looking for in a computer that can be used in this way?
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processor and RAM mainly.
My 4gb dualcore would take around 5-6 hours to compile from source lol
Its just a matter of how much time you're willing to wait really.
Jesuscash, I looked at your computer on line and it blows my hp away. 5-6 hours to compile from source? Wow!
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Jesuscash, I looked at your computer on line and it blows my hp away. 5-6 hours to compile from source? Wow!
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Yeah, but this laptop isnt exactly in tip-top shape lol
It overheats a lot and the battery is on the ****s.
It took me 5 hours to convert a pdf of scanned images into a pdf with searchable text, and that was setting the process' priority to high. The pdf was a gb though lol
It lagged so bad that I clicked on the firefox icon and it opened up 30 minutes later lol
I'm investing in a high-end gaming desktop rig when my next round of college money comes in, just because.
I rarely game, but I've been craving a powerful machine for years now. and who knows. I may start learning to dev again
My current desktop has 184mb of ram and it runs ubuntu 9.10 like a champ.
Next question. Intel or AMD?
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I like both, but I lean more more towards AMD. Although my current Laptop is Intel, and I have no regrets with it .
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I've used AMD most in the past because at the time they seemed less expensive....
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Is there really a difference between the two processors or does it just come down to, do you want a Ford Crown Vvictoria or a Lincoln Towncar? Is one really better than the other?
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As an amd user I love it. I have a quad core black edition and I can overclock to 3.6 without an issue. I do a lot of gaming so I run crossfire to. The only downside is that I've found that some software, mostly games, don't play nice with my gfx cards. But I feel you get more bang for your buck with amd. There is a difference between a quad core from amd and Intel. Intel will always beat out the amd card in something but they are close. Amd always wins in price though. Just my 2 cents
Has anyone else seen the new official Ubuntu for phones that's coming out? It looks rather nice. I can't wait to be able to try it.
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Has anyone else seen the new official Ubuntu for phones that's coming out? It looks rather nice. I can't wait to be able to try it.
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Looks great but I wouldn't count on running that on a thunderbolt....ever.
They've tried this before with Ubuntu for Android. It never got off the ground. They intended on dual booting Ubuntu on dual core gingerbread class phones but it never happened. There was supposed to be a dock that your phone went into and booted Linux on a monitor so it was like having a phone and computer at the same time. I like the idea of having full Linux support though. It will be interesting to see if calling through Ubuntu will be supported.
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Looks great but I wouldn't count on running that on a thunderbolt....ever.
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Yeah i wasnt counting on it to be on the Thunderbolt.
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They've tried this before with Ubuntu for Android. It never got off the ground. They intended on dual booting Ubuntu on dual core gingerbread class phones but it never happened. There was supposed to be a dock that your phone went into and booted Linux on a monitor so it was like having a phone and computer at the same time. I like the idea of having full Linux support though. It will be interesting to see if calling through Ubuntu will be supported.
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Well hopefully this works out, I liked the way it looked.
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Well hopefully this works out, I liked the way it looked.
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Same here. It almost looked to me like they intend on marketing phones with just this os on it. I really like Linux so I hope they do it. Hopefully since its Linux other distros will be created. It would awesome to have Linux mint like that.
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Same here. It almost looked to me like they intend on marketing phones with just this os on it. I really like Linux so I hope they do it. Hopefully since its Linux other distros will be created. It would awesome to have Linux mint like that.
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I've never used mint before its always been xubuntu for me. For some reason though i can't get Wi-Fi to work on my laptop. I looked at mint last night, I'll probably get my brother to install it today.
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Mint is so much better IMO. It has some features that aren't available with a stock Ubuntu installation plus it looks great. You can install it right on top of Ubuntu.
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Mint is so much better IMO. It has some features that aren't available with a stock Ubuntu installation plus it looks great. You can install it right on top of Ubuntu.
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My brother installed it. I haven't had time to mess with it yet though. OK spent like an hour trying to root someone's tablet. Which would've been easier had it not been a Chinese tablet.
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Its not the standard Ubuntu but an actual mobile OS. The gnex version should get released once the CES gets going as they will demonstrate it there.
It looks pimp
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Its not the standard Ubuntu but an actual mobile OS. The gnex version should get released once the CES gets going as they will demonstrate it there.
It looks pimp
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Its a mobile version of Ubuntu. Probably won't be anything like the desktop version but since it's Linux other distros can be made for it.
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I think it would be excellent to have this on our thunderbolt. It can definitely breathe new life into the phone since development is slowly declining for this. But it's single core so I doubt it will ever be.
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A beta is gonna be released for the galaxy nexus in February. In already trying to find one now.
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Im myself are not sure why they are doing this. The ubuntu edge doesnt really seem practical. I mean, who needs two lte antennas in their phone?
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It's an interesting experiment, but honestly I don't know if it's gonna meet success. I mean, what if people buy it just for the 4 GB of RAM and then run Android?
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It's an interesting experiment, but honestly I don't know if it's gonna meet success. I mean, what if people buy it just for the 4 GB of RAM and then run Android?
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Then android would fly
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This is going to be a beast of a phone. wished I could afford to try it.
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Then android would fly
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Hahaha that is true indeed mate
The phone looks super sexy.... and it's true, I bet jb would hum on that slab.
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Im myself are not sure why they are doing this. The ubuntu edge doesnt really seem practical. I mean, who needs two lte antennas in their phone?
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I believe the two antennas were for use on a carrier of your choice, since it comes without contract (even international).
Impractical probably for most. Ever since I got an android device (an archos) many years back I kinda wanted to be able to have a functional desktop experience. Having a note ii now I can basically already do that, whether im using a tablet multiwindow mod or the linuxonandroid app. That being said, there seems to be enough who want that kind of functionality. Would be even cooler to see somethin like that with a keyboard dock. Old idea that was tried on other phones.
I'd go as far as to say this is nothing like what's been done before.
I love it, would definitely buy it if it was coming out sooner, but I need a new phone now, not in 2014.
Never figured the price to be all that steep either, you 'muricans have gotten too used to carrier-subsidized stuff
Here in Norway an $800 price tag is normal for such a badass...
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if using android why this phone have a name ubuntu edge ?
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if using android why this phone have a name ubuntu edge ?
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You don't reqd much do you? It dual boots Ubuntu and android plus when you hook it up to your minister it turns into a full instillation.
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if using android why this phone have a name ubuntu edge ?
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It's an Ubuntu touch phone that has the option to boot into android, with an android app compatibility layer for Ubuntu coming soon so you can still use your favorite apps when using u-touch. It also has a desktop mode where you can hook it up to a monitor and enjoy the full desktop version of Ubuntu.
The desktop mode is the reason for the specs, so it's literally a computer in your pocket. Thanks to so many ARM distributions out there, almost every single piece of software in the main Ubuntu repositories has been ported to ARM. Overall, for $800 you get an Android phone, and a desktop computer that fits in your pocket.
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Overall, for $800 you get an Android phone, and a desktop computer that fits in your pocket.
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Soo true. Thays really what drew me. Im mean it really sounds like a high quality device and it wouod have to be to meet for both a high end android device and a very functional desktop computer. I can even imagine it being more, having the ability to be a laptop too.
I just read only people who support the development donation 775 will get the phone its not being publicly sold or distributed also the 2 antenna deal is one lte antenna is for the US the other is for functionality in EU if y'all want I'll link the article from indegogo which is the current most updated article.
Edit: ok I apologize and correct my last statement it's not on indegogo site that's the place this article refers to if you want to donate and back this project to get one... Here's the article
http://technabob.com/blog/2013/07/28/ubuntu-edge-smartphone/
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Whether or not you like Ubuntu, you should hope that this 'experiment' exceed, doing so would surely drive something positive towards the mobile phone scene.
But will it get the newest android versions when they release like the nexus devices, or will it just update android in the same way as, say Sony does? That's probably the qyestion holding me back a little.
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But will it get the newest android versions when they release like the nexus devices, or will it just update android in the same way as, say Sony does? That's probably the qyestion holding me back a little.
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It is based on CM so it will be fast with aNDROID-Updates!
this phone wouldn't be commercially successful
At the beginning I thought the campaign is gonna be a huge success.. but looking at it now.. seems like a far cry from being successful. But would be cool to see a device that can dual boot android & ubuntu though:fingers-crossed:..
What do I think? Neat idea, not so great on the execution. The Android world is full of great-but-not-quite-there ideas, and this is a good one -- unfortunately the timing just isn't right.
Dual-booting is just way beyond the scope of what the average person needs or wants right now, in my opinion. Could it be useful? Definitely, if implemented and executed correctly. Maybe this is one of those product categories people don't know they want until they have it?
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They will not even meet the goal. Being successful comes later
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I was given an HTC Thunderbolt from a friend. She's finally just gotten tired of the Sense BS and how screwed up this phone is as it comes from the manufacturer. I figured, being the tech savvy fellow I am, that I'd root it, unlock the bootloader and install a custom ROM, probably Cyanogenmod as I love their work. .....no dice. I have Windows 8 on a laptop that was given to me by my wife after my Linux machine went to the big computer shop in the sky. After hours of fruitless searches and downloads I broke down and called HTC. What do they tell me? There isn't a driver out there to make Win8 recognize my device. I tried HTC Sync, PDA Net and a million other options.....no dice. I've searched these forums inside and out, I know the rules, I abide by them to the T. But still, no dice. SO I ask the question that I can't seem to find an answer to, has anyone had any luck getting their Thunderbolt recognized in Win8? If so please tell me how.:good:
Your best bet would be to install Windows 7 or use a friend's computer.
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Your best bet would be to install Windows 7 or use a friend's computer.
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AWESOME Idea!....tried it, between HP's Legacy bullcrap and so on I haven't had much luck, I was thinking maybe a VM?
Windows 8 should be able to use the windows 7 drivers for your phone. Should....
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My guess is you do not have the proper usb cable with the data pin in it.
Seeing how you got it second hand, that's my guess as I don't know what cable you have and you didn't mention trying several.
May wanna see about picking one up to eliminate that as the issue, if you haven't explored this already.
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My guess is you do not have the proper usb cable with the data pin in it.
Seeing how you got it second hand, that's my guess as I don't know what cable you have and you didn't mention trying several.
May wanna see about picking one up to eliminate that as the issue, if you haven't explored this already.
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So I tried and tried everything with this thunderbolt. Finally I gave up on Windows 8, which I think Windows has too, and dug out my daughters Acer Aspire One and installed Windows 7. Wouldn't ya know it, all went well. Actually all went well with Windows 8 but I must have gotten a bad download when I obtained the RUU to downgrade to Gingerbread. Or maybe it was an operator error, around here there seems to be quite a few. Anyway, I am rooted with S-OFF so let the Flashing commence. I'm gonna look for a CM10 rom, wish me luck. Thank to all that helped, especially the fella who told me to switch cords, always a good idea when having problems.
Good luck finding cm10.2 that has working data...
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First step to working with Windows 8...wipe, then install Windows 7...
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Good luck finding cm10.2 that has working data...
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Yeah I'm using Liquid ICS and am returning this POS and getting my Droid3 back soon.
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Yeah I'm using Liquid ICS and am returning this POS and getting my Droid3 back soon.
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LOL have fun in droid 3 land
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Oh I'm well aware. I got the Droid 3 as a "you can't root and hack this phone" kinda thing from an inexperienced Aunt. Its rooted and running ICS. I don't use a phone plan so I don't care about data or mms or anything like that. I would just LOVE to get an EVO again.
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Oh I'm well aware. I got the Droid 3 as a "you can't root and hack this phone" kinda thing from an inexperienced Aunt. Its rooted and running ICS. I don't use a phone plan so I don't care about data or mms or anything like that. I would just LOVE to get an EVO again.
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If that's the case go to infectedrom.com and get Santod's PAC rom. It's cm10.2 based and wifi only currently.
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Thanks but the Droid got stolen. So now I'm stuck w an Hussein Ascend 2....life sucks
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