I've been having trouble with my old hp so I've been shopping around for a new Laptop. I'm wondering what folks thought of http://us.toshiba.com/computers/lap...mmc=qr-pr-walmart-l850-l855d-s5220&moreskus=0 Is it big enough for running SDK and other development tools?
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I've been having trouble with my old hp so I've been shopping around for a new Laptop. I'm wondering what folks thought of http://us.toshiba.com/computers/lap...mmc=qr-pr-walmart-l850-l855d-s5220&moreskus=0 Is it big enough for running SDK and other development tools?
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What's your budget? Are you planning on using win7 or Linux or both?
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That looks like it will more than handle what you need to do. I did find it for a bit less HERE . A big part of choosing a Laptop is the Budget you have to work with.
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I've been having trouble with my old hp so I've been shopping around for a new Laptop. I'm wondering what folks thought of http://us.toshiba.com/computers/lap...mmc=qr-pr-walmart-l850-l855d-s5220&moreskus=0 Is it big enough for running SDK and other development tools?
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I forgot to ask, are you going to be compiling from source?
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What's your budget? Are you planning on using win7 or Linux or both?
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Around $600. Both.
I'm not sure about compiling from source. Right now prboy1969 and I are trying to get the Android kitchen set up.
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Around $600. Both.
I'm not sure about compiling from source. Right now prboy1969 and I are trying to get the Android kitchen set up.
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There was something about the ACPI (or whatever lol its been a while since i dealt with it) where it wouldn't want to boot ubuntu, and if it did it was unusable and my CPU and fan would be at 100 percent.
It was a linux kernel issue, not a ubuntu-specific issue.
Wireless was also a toughie for me, but I was able to fix that no problem.
I'd look around on newegg.com before buying that toshiba just so you can get a feel of what you get for around $600 elsewhere.
But yes, that laptop should have more than enough muscle to do what you want it to do.
I'm running an Acer ( yes go ahead and laugh ) Dual Core Intel. Have had nothing but the Best of luck with it
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To better answer this, in the short term no. But as I continue to learn I think I might. What things should I consider looking for in a computer that can be used in this way?
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Hm, well I don't know about Toshibas being linux friendly.
I have a dualcore Satellite L505 and I had to wait for 2 ubuntu releases for it to work properly.
There was something about the ACPI (or whatever lol its been a while since i dealt with it) where it wouldn't want to boot ubuntu, and if it did it was unusable and my CPU and fan would be at 100 percent.
It was a linux kernel issue, not a ubuntu-specific issue.
Wireless was also a toughie for me, but I was able to fix that no problem.
I'd look around on newegg.com before buying that toshiba just so you can get a feel of what you get for around $600 elsewhere.
But yes, that laptop should have more than enough muscle to do what you want it to do.
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That has more to do with specific hardware then brand name.
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To better answer this, in the short term no. But as I continue to learn I think I might. What things should I consider looking for in a computer that can be used in this way?
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processor and RAM mainly.
My 4gb dualcore would take around 5-6 hours to compile from source lol
Its just a matter of how much time you're willing to wait really.
Jesuscash, I looked at your computer on line and it blows my hp away. 5-6 hours to compile from source? Wow!
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Jesuscash, I looked at your computer on line and it blows my hp away. 5-6 hours to compile from source? Wow!
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Yeah, but this laptop isnt exactly in tip-top shape lol
It overheats a lot and the battery is on the ****s.
It took me 5 hours to convert a pdf of scanned images into a pdf with searchable text, and that was setting the process' priority to high. The pdf was a gb though lol
It lagged so bad that I clicked on the firefox icon and it opened up 30 minutes later lol
I'm investing in a high-end gaming desktop rig when my next round of college money comes in, just because.
I rarely game, but I've been craving a powerful machine for years now. and who knows. I may start learning to dev again
My current desktop has 184mb of ram and it runs ubuntu 9.10 like a champ.
Next question. Intel or AMD?
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I like both, but I lean more more towards AMD. Although my current Laptop is Intel, and I have no regrets with it .
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I've used AMD most in the past because at the time they seemed less expensive....
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Is there really a difference between the two processors or does it just come down to, do you want a Ford Crown Vvictoria or a Lincoln Towncar? Is one really better than the other?
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As an amd user I love it. I have a quad core black edition and I can overclock to 3.6 without an issue. I do a lot of gaming so I run crossfire to. The only downside is that I've found that some software, mostly games, don't play nice with my gfx cards. But I feel you get more bang for your buck with amd. There is a difference between a quad core from amd and Intel. Intel will always beat out the amd card in something but they are close. Amd always wins in price though. Just my 2 cents
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Can we get a full wp7 port? Once ril is established.
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could maybe maybe maybe be ported. but i've read that since wp7 is a closed source operating system that it will make it almost impossible. it was done on the hd2 because the device had windows mobile already and was similar to current wp7 devices. this is what i've gotten from the threads i've read
Verizon, HTC & WP7 ... here you go.
@ daimon. Thx for the input.
@ feedhead. I just shelled out $250 for this phone. Why buy another new phone?
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The hd2 got a wp7 port because a test rom was leaked that was built for the hd2. Dont expect to see many other wp7 ports anytime soon as it took a while for the devs to get out the hd2 port.
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You can try launcher 7 and the developers other apps. Launcher looks and functions like WP7
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@ daimon. Thx for the input.
@ feedhead. I just shelled out $250 for this phone. Why buy another new phone?
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Why shell out 250 dollars for an android phone if you want WP7 is the better question...
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Why shell out 250 dollars for an android phone if you want WP7 is the better question...
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Why shell out 250 dollars for an android phone if you want WP7 is the better question...
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Because I like htc sense. I think many people would enjoy a port of wp7. Why do you flame because of a good idea. I'm starting to think that everyone on this forum is just an asshole. Why does everybody think of ideas as ****. Like wtf.
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All the android freaks bash the apple freaks bash the wp7 freaks bash the android freaks,wasnt it once the idea of a freak to be told it wouldnt work so he could make it work and prove the assholes wrong,but seems to be when somebody does get something to work everybody rags on them,case in point the guy that got the bolt to work on cricket
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Take the bamf team hell they got sense3to run on our device,um I thought I read somewhere that it would never work
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How can the archos kid play tablet ($130) get ics and the galaxy s 4g can't? Is it because of the 1gb ram?
I don't know but I paid $500 for my phone. I'm on the T-Mobile Loyalty Plus Plan (no contract). You would think I paid for the upgrade already lol... it was worth it though because this phone brought me to this Community (my first Community/Root/Modding) and all It's Offerings.
Sorry for being off topic. I'm waiting on a train to take me home.
Actually, this phone is perfectly above standards to run ICS quite smoothly. If the tmo g1 with 538 mhz arm v6 cortex and 192 mb ram can run it, then obviously, we can.
It basically has the same specs as a Nexus S(Crespo)
I'm really beginning to think that the "exclusively for Tmobile" is our Achilles heel, because we're such a small percentage of the overall market share we're just not important enough to them (Tmobile & Samsung) to warrant the update... That's why may faith lays in the hands of the developers we have here.
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I'm really beginning to think that the "exclusively for Tmobile" is our Achilles heel, because we're such a small percentage of the overall market share we're just not important enough to them (Tmobile & Samsung) to warrant the update... That's why may faith lays in the hands of the developers we have here.
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I agree with you cause back when I had a mytouch slide we didn't get official froyo until they just started releasing gingerbread for new phones
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Not to make an insult to injury so to speak, but i found a guide on YouTube on how to install ics on my pc... Wtf Samsung?!?
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Not to make an insult to injury so to speak, but i found a guide on YouTube on how to install ics on my pc... Wtf Samsung?!?
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Really?? I got to check this out lol
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Not to make an insult to injury so to speak, but i found a guide on YouTube on how to install ics on my pc... Wtf Samsung?!?
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Lol Samsung blows lol cmon Thomas get us ics lol oh wait forgot no eta's
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Lol Samsung blows lol cmon Thomas get us ics lol oh wait forgot no eta's
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I don't know what the problem is. I've been running ICS Aokp for over a week now. Fast smooth and feature rich. Oh forgot to tell you guys I bought a Skyrocket. lol
Has anyone else seen the new official Ubuntu for phones that's coming out? It looks rather nice. I can't wait to be able to try it.
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Has anyone else seen the new official Ubuntu for phones that's coming out? It looks rather nice. I can't wait to be able to try it.
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Looks great but I wouldn't count on running that on a thunderbolt....ever.
They've tried this before with Ubuntu for Android. It never got off the ground. They intended on dual booting Ubuntu on dual core gingerbread class phones but it never happened. There was supposed to be a dock that your phone went into and booted Linux on a monitor so it was like having a phone and computer at the same time. I like the idea of having full Linux support though. It will be interesting to see if calling through Ubuntu will be supported.
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Looks great but I wouldn't count on running that on a thunderbolt....ever.
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Yeah i wasnt counting on it to be on the Thunderbolt.
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They've tried this before with Ubuntu for Android. It never got off the ground. They intended on dual booting Ubuntu on dual core gingerbread class phones but it never happened. There was supposed to be a dock that your phone went into and booted Linux on a monitor so it was like having a phone and computer at the same time. I like the idea of having full Linux support though. It will be interesting to see if calling through Ubuntu will be supported.
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Well hopefully this works out, I liked the way it looked.
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Well hopefully this works out, I liked the way it looked.
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Same here. It almost looked to me like they intend on marketing phones with just this os on it. I really like Linux so I hope they do it. Hopefully since its Linux other distros will be created. It would awesome to have Linux mint like that.
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Same here. It almost looked to me like they intend on marketing phones with just this os on it. I really like Linux so I hope they do it. Hopefully since its Linux other distros will be created. It would awesome to have Linux mint like that.
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I've never used mint before its always been xubuntu for me. For some reason though i can't get Wi-Fi to work on my laptop. I looked at mint last night, I'll probably get my brother to install it today.
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Mint is so much better IMO. It has some features that aren't available with a stock Ubuntu installation plus it looks great. You can install it right on top of Ubuntu.
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Mint is so much better IMO. It has some features that aren't available with a stock Ubuntu installation plus it looks great. You can install it right on top of Ubuntu.
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My brother installed it. I haven't had time to mess with it yet though. OK spent like an hour trying to root someone's tablet. Which would've been easier had it not been a Chinese tablet.
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Its not the standard Ubuntu but an actual mobile OS. The gnex version should get released once the CES gets going as they will demonstrate it there.
It looks pimp
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Its not the standard Ubuntu but an actual mobile OS. The gnex version should get released once the CES gets going as they will demonstrate it there.
It looks pimp
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Its a mobile version of Ubuntu. Probably won't be anything like the desktop version but since it's Linux other distros can be made for it.
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I think it would be excellent to have this on our thunderbolt. It can definitely breathe new life into the phone since development is slowly declining for this. But it's single core so I doubt it will ever be.
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A beta is gonna be released for the galaxy nexus in February. In already trying to find one now.
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I know I saw an article about this and I don't know it anyone else has recently but it discussed the possibilities of manufacturers letting customers build their own device kind of how computer manufacturers do now.
I think this would be a really cool idea. I would love to just build a phone the way I want it but of course I would just throw together a phone with all the best specs
Realistically I doubt this would ever happen. It would take away control from carrier's and also manufacturers. They love having customers in the palm of their hands begging for a new device just 2-3 months after paying full retail for the one they currently own.
Just imagine how much that would change the cell phone industry?
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That would be a neat idea but the cost would be ridiculous. I would not be opposed to having more options though.
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Holy ****... I just imagined an Alienware, custom built, Android-driven cell phone and had a geek-gasm...
Haha alienware! I just think it would be a very cool concept
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Holy ****... I just imagined an Alienware, custom built, Android-driven cell phone and had a geek-gasm...
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Alienware is overpriced and overrated, much like apple(sorry I had to) the best way to build is just buy the parts yourself off of new egg or something similar. You will always pay less this way.
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Alienware is overpriced and overrated, much like apple(sorry I had to) the best way to build is just buy the parts yourself off of new egg or something similar. You will always pay less this way.
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Agreed! Plus since alienware was purchased by dell their quality went downhill.
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Back in the tmob g2 days there was a company that was making custom made to order android. phones
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Alienware is overpriced and overrated, much like apple(sorry I had to) the best way to build is just buy the parts yourself off of new egg or something similar. You will always pay less this way.
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I agree, I've built every computer I've used for the last 15 years. I just like the aesthetic quality of Alienware's products and thought it would be nifty if they would put those design aspects towards a phone chassis and UI.
If I had the money.. I'd do it. Question then would be how to like your phone without it infringing on another.
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I think that would make developing ROMs and kernels for phones nearly impossible with there being such a huge variety in hardware. It would be really cool for sure, but I believe development would pretty much die.
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Holy ****... I just imagined an Alienware, custom built, Android-driven cell phone and had a geek-gasm...
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Yea, then you could pay twice the price of the worth of the machine so you can get a little alien head graphic on it.:good:
I imagine there would be some some similarity due to the standards that would have to be put in place based on mobo size, case size, how everything fits together.... I'd still totally do it. Ive already heavily enjoyed building computers. Would give a nice sense of control over a device that can so easily erode privacy.
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Im myself are not sure why they are doing this. The ubuntu edge doesnt really seem practical. I mean, who needs two lte antennas in their phone?
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It's an interesting experiment, but honestly I don't know if it's gonna meet success. I mean, what if people buy it just for the 4 GB of RAM and then run Android?
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It's an interesting experiment, but honestly I don't know if it's gonna meet success. I mean, what if people buy it just for the 4 GB of RAM and then run Android?
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Then android would fly
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This is going to be a beast of a phone. wished I could afford to try it.
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Then android would fly
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Hahaha that is true indeed mate
The phone looks super sexy.... and it's true, I bet jb would hum on that slab.
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Im myself are not sure why they are doing this. The ubuntu edge doesnt really seem practical. I mean, who needs two lte antennas in their phone?
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I believe the two antennas were for use on a carrier of your choice, since it comes without contract (even international).
Impractical probably for most. Ever since I got an android device (an archos) many years back I kinda wanted to be able to have a functional desktop experience. Having a note ii now I can basically already do that, whether im using a tablet multiwindow mod or the linuxonandroid app. That being said, there seems to be enough who want that kind of functionality. Would be even cooler to see somethin like that with a keyboard dock. Old idea that was tried on other phones.
I'd go as far as to say this is nothing like what's been done before.
I love it, would definitely buy it if it was coming out sooner, but I need a new phone now, not in 2014.
Never figured the price to be all that steep either, you 'muricans have gotten too used to carrier-subsidized stuff
Here in Norway an $800 price tag is normal for such a badass...
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if using android why this phone have a name ubuntu edge ?
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if using android why this phone have a name ubuntu edge ?
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You don't reqd much do you? It dual boots Ubuntu and android plus when you hook it up to your minister it turns into a full instillation.
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if using android why this phone have a name ubuntu edge ?
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It's an Ubuntu touch phone that has the option to boot into android, with an android app compatibility layer for Ubuntu coming soon so you can still use your favorite apps when using u-touch. It also has a desktop mode where you can hook it up to a monitor and enjoy the full desktop version of Ubuntu.
The desktop mode is the reason for the specs, so it's literally a computer in your pocket. Thanks to so many ARM distributions out there, almost every single piece of software in the main Ubuntu repositories has been ported to ARM. Overall, for $800 you get an Android phone, and a desktop computer that fits in your pocket.
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Overall, for $800 you get an Android phone, and a desktop computer that fits in your pocket.
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Soo true. Thays really what drew me. Im mean it really sounds like a high quality device and it wouod have to be to meet for both a high end android device and a very functional desktop computer. I can even imagine it being more, having the ability to be a laptop too.
I just read only people who support the development donation 775 will get the phone its not being publicly sold or distributed also the 2 antenna deal is one lte antenna is for the US the other is for functionality in EU if y'all want I'll link the article from indegogo which is the current most updated article.
Edit: ok I apologize and correct my last statement it's not on indegogo site that's the place this article refers to if you want to donate and back this project to get one... Here's the article
http://technabob.com/blog/2013/07/28/ubuntu-edge-smartphone/
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Whether or not you like Ubuntu, you should hope that this 'experiment' exceed, doing so would surely drive something positive towards the mobile phone scene.
But will it get the newest android versions when they release like the nexus devices, or will it just update android in the same way as, say Sony does? That's probably the qyestion holding me back a little.
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But will it get the newest android versions when they release like the nexus devices, or will it just update android in the same way as, say Sony does? That's probably the qyestion holding me back a little.
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It is based on CM so it will be fast with aNDROID-Updates!
this phone wouldn't be commercially successful
At the beginning I thought the campaign is gonna be a huge success.. but looking at it now.. seems like a far cry from being successful. But would be cool to see a device that can dual boot android & ubuntu though:fingers-crossed:..
What do I think? Neat idea, not so great on the execution. The Android world is full of great-but-not-quite-there ideas, and this is a good one -- unfortunately the timing just isn't right.
Dual-booting is just way beyond the scope of what the average person needs or wants right now, in my opinion. Could it be useful? Definitely, if implemented and executed correctly. Maybe this is one of those product categories people don't know they want until they have it?
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this phone wouldn't be commercially successful
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They will not even meet the goal. Being successful comes later
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