After spending the last 3 months waiting patiently, I'm dismayed to hear that the Surface Pro won't have GPS. Does anyone know if there is a way Windows 8 could use the GPS signal of a Windows Phone 8 via wifi or bluetooth?
It seems ridiculous to me that I would buy a portable computer and then not be able to use accurate location based services, but I have no problem with the idea of tethering it to my phone for 4G services, so GPS could easily be the same. Similarly, the transfer of NFC data via a WP8 would be cool too.
foaf said:
After spending the last 3 months waiting patiently, I'm dismayed to hear that the Surface Pro won't have GPS. Does anyone know if there is a way Windows 8 could use the GPS signal of a Windows Phone 8 via wifi or bluetooth?
It seems ridiculous to me that I would buy a portable computer and then not be able to use accurate location based services, but I have no problem with the idea of tethering it to my phone for 4G services, so GPS could easily be the same. Similarly, the transfer of NFC data via a WP8 would be cool too.
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Sorry but it won't happen. GPS tethering requires the Bluetooth serial port profile which will not be available in the WP8 Bluetooth stack. I pre-ordered my Surface RT and bought a 3G+GPS usb stick for $28 for those rare occasions that I would need a giant navigation device
With WP8 now supporting the Object Push profile, you could transfer data through Bluetooth between each device. Though definitely not as cool as NFC.
It wouldn't be *too* hard to write a virtual GPS driver that takes data, perhaps in NMEA format or similar, over WiFi or other network transport. You could then write a smartphone app that would connect to the PC (Surface or otherwise) over the network and send the smartphone's GPS info. It would be hell on the phone's battery, but for short periods or if plugged in it would work fine.
Actually, I'd be somewhat surprised if such things don't already exist. There are certainly PC apps that handle GPS data over a network connection, and there are GPS drivers for x86/x64 Windows (including Win7, which means they will also work on Win8 including Surface Pro). Whether there yet exists such a "network GPS" driver, I can't say at this time, but it wouldn't be hard to write one.
Now, getting something like that on Surface RT, or any other Windows RT device... that would take some hacking. We do that here, of course, but it won't be nearly as easy; I can't imagine that Windows RT is going to be easygoing about loading third-party drivers (considering that it doesn't even want to run third-party executables).
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It wouldn't be *too* hard to write a virtual GPS driver that takes data, perhaps in NMEA format or similar, over WiFi or other network transport. You could then write a smartphone app that would connect to the PC (Surface or otherwise) over the network and send the smartphone's GPS info. It would be hell on the phone's battery, but for short periods or if plugged in it would work fine.
Actually, I'd be somewhat surprised if such things don't already exist. There are certainly PC apps that handle GPS data over a network connection, and there are GPS drivers for x86/x64 Windows (including Win7, which means they will also work on Win8 including Surface Pro). Whether there yet exists such a "network GPS" driver, I can't say at this time, but it wouldn't be hard to write one.
Now, getting something like that on Surface RT, or any other Windows RT device... that would take some hacking. We do that here, of course, but it won't be nearly as easy; I can't imagine that Windows RT is going to be easygoing about loading third-party drivers (considering that it doesn't even want to run third-party executables).
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But that would only work where there's wifi. Won't help much where there's no signal. I wouldn't be surprised if a bluetooth - external GPS option doesn't pop up down the road. I was also disappointed to hear that there was no GPS in the Surface, as so many tablet/Ipad apps utilize location data now, which the Surface will not be able to do.
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Is there a software available that will allow me to connect my Android Device to my laptop as a GPS unit???
This would be SWEET!
Simply USB tether the N1, MT3G or G1 to your PC, run the program and viola!! - GPS on your PC...
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Is there a software available that will allow me to connect my Android Device to my laptop as a GPS unit???
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Forgive me, but I don't see how this would be useful?!
I remember years ago I once bought Microsoft Streets & Trips with the bundled GPS unit that did what you are asking. But why would you want to carry around a laptop that's tethered to your Android device with GPS?!
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Are you talking about being able to SEE the maps/navigation ON your computer screen?!
maybe they have a laptop mount on the dash like cops do.. big ass navigation
Rather than purchase an external GPS unit to tether to a netbook... use the android device as one...
I already use the my MT3G as a mobile broadband device when on the road... This would just make it that much more useful.
Ok, I've been thinking about a veritable carputer for years and all this development in tablet PC's has me interested. In particular I've been keeping an eye out for a ~5" tablet with GPS, bluetooth, and support for Verizon EV-DO. I want to directly wire it to a 5V connection without the Li-ion battery (140F parked car) and rig up a mounting solution that enables me to store the bugger in the 5.25" stereo DIN when not in use, and pop out and up when in use. I've always hated the idea of visible screens in parked cars because it's worse than a "Steal Me sticker" such as a Kicker, Infinity, or Kenwood sticker, so the idea of a tablet that's as wide as a CD player is quite nifty to me. Now, the big kicker for this is I need it to run Garmin Mobile XT which isn't supported by Android, and the only device that fits the bill that's scheduled for relatively soon release is the Dell Streak, and it runs on Android. I also want to use it to stream FLAC's from my 70lb desktop at home via Verizon's enormous EV-DO network to the car, rather than having to keep a hard disk in the car/subject it to egg-cooking temperatures.
Do y'all think it'd be possible to get WinMo running on such a device? If not, are there any Android navigation softwares that DO NOT require a data connection to obtain map data; I kick it and work in enough middle o' nowhere spots without a 3G connection, and those are the places I need GPS the most. I really like Garmin Mobile XT because it occupies a bit over 1GB of maps for the contigious 48 + Canada on my microSD.
Any suggestions would be epicly appreciated.
You should use copilot live. It's as good if not better than garmin. And cheap.
CoPilot is useless in rural North America.
I already have a CarPC running Windows 7. I would kill to have Google Navigation running on it (through an android emulator or something, but with working GPS). Is this possible with the dev kit alone, or do they block the Maps.apk and use of a USB GPS.
from personal experience (i have a car-pc, and the verizon mifi), if you really love music, lol , i'd stay away from streaming from your home.
your idea was intially my intention, wen i got into the carpc project. (stream form my server's at home)
i'd recommend storing the content locally. say a 32gb sd card?
Streaming from last.fm or slacker radio works very well.
Is those on my nexus when the pc decides to act up and not start..
Hi all.
Been trying to find a solution on net, but no success.
How to share my PC's internet connection (WiFi) with p6210 via USB? Stock OS, fresh Kies installed, Win7.
Supposedly there should be a "tether via USB" option in settings--wireless and networks, but there is none (also WiFi off on tab).
Remember this was no-issue on much older Android devices.
Any help would be much appreciated.
I'm not sure if it's the same but I have a P6200 and there is an option on Wireless > Tethering & Portable Hotspot. The tethering via usb is on gray and not clickable unless I connect it via usb of course. There is also bluetooth tethering.
Nope.. don't have that option. No built-in tethering, and also the best rated tethering software didn't work in any mode. But thanks for the effort. Obviously Samsung decided that I do not need that feature. Is it the Samsung, or is it the path Android is taking? Just thinking aloud here, don't get me wrong, but I'm getting frustrated. Monstrous specifications offering basic functions and fancy animations. I'm no expert by far, but have a feeling that my old Diamond with WM and lot of work from some great developers on this forum, could do magic. Isn't Android supposed to be an "open" OS? More and more it looks to me as a machinery for making money by pointing consumers in a profitable direction and limiting hardware capabilities of anything but cheap devices. I imagine buying a branded computer where the manufacturer decides that I really do not need all those options of the OS. And OS manufacturer allowing it.
But maybe this is just bit of frustration after a hard day. Anyone feeling offended, just disregard this post.
Windows can't share internet over usb - get a lan to usb connector from ebay, that will solve you're problem
Why do they bother to still design tablets with the CPU/GPU on board? When I think about the future of windows with windows 8 I think about tablets being heavier to run the x86 architecture and I wonder why not just use something like intels widi and transmit only the picture to a tablet and have a server plugged in doing all the processing, maybe even running another instance or switchable session of the OS attached to a standard desktop display/keyboard mouse. The tablet would of course still need a processor but only to process a ready to go image, audio and to interpret touch inputs and transmit them to the server. This would allow for larger batteries and be much more cost effective in the long run.
Of course we will still need today's style for outside the home/office but like the desktop there is still a market for the LAN only machines.
Maybe this is already available and someone can point me to where I can buy it now! :x
You want the cloud? Not ready yet. Until then, splashtop will have to do. Also, botnet.
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You want the cloud? Not ready yet. Until then, splashtop will have to do. Also, botnet.
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No, nothing over the internet. I'm simply talking about a wireless display with a battery but one that can transmit touch inputs. Not sure how else to put it but if you have seen the wireless transmitter and receivers for HDMI, similar to this.
Does anyone see where I'm going with this? Windows 8 is touch screen but the best I could find that are desktop-like is the dell ST2220T which only has 2 touch points that is not cetified for windows 8 which I believe accepts up to 4.
Next I looked at tablets and there are a few budget(if you can call $500 with a small display, bad/slow graphics card and little storage budget) that look promising but could easily have 100 hardware issues that would drive me nuts and then theres the name brand stuff like samsungs $1,000 pc tablets which still suffer from built in gpu's that suck.
My idea would simply be the cost of a screen and battery if you already own a desktop with say, intel widi (wireless display) and some sort of input receiver to receive the touch commands from the tablet display. The performance would be virtually unlimited!
Are you basically talking about a device that connects through your local network to a transmitting PC running an OS of your choosing? Sort of like a portable monitor that doubles as a touchscreen?
Constant wifi or similar connection would drain the battery as well. Also, that would require a whole separate computer to run the system itself (if you're doing it at home), or a fast, VERY low latency broadband connection to a cloud (so forget about the device being very cheap just because you have to somehow pay for the server-side as well). Otherwise you'd be struggling with laggy UI which is the exact opposite of what everyone wants.
So... not for a few more years... or decades
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Are you basically talking about a device that connects through your local network to a transmitting PC running an OS of your choosing? Sort of like a portable monitor that doubles as a touchscreen?
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Like a portable monitor with touchscreen that transmits touch inputs/commands wirelessly back to the desktop just like a mouse.
I don't think transmitting through networks is a good idea and thats why I mentioned the Intel WIDI wireless display technology that is already in most new Inte'ls so all we would really need to change on the PC side is a customized wireless receiver for the touch inputs.
Hell, I'm thinking about calling a friend who is an EE and getting something made if nobody else is...lol.
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Constant wifi or similar connection would drain the battery as well. Also, that would require a whole separate computer to run the system itself (if you're doing it at home), or a fast, VERY low latency broadband connection to a cloud (so forget about the device being very cheap just because you have to somehow pay for the server-side as well). Otherwise you'd be struggling with laggy UI which is the exact opposite of what everyone wants.
So... not for a few more years... or decades
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Eh the technology is here with http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/intel-wireless-display.html
Using wifi isn't efficient, but tablets use most of their energy on the display and processing. Since all you would be doing is signal processing vs actual computation @ the tablet end you would use considerably less juice. Like Half.
You are talking direct wireless connection from tablet to monitor, not going through a wireless router or connection? Interesting idea, but why not just go through a wireless connection? Wouldn't this also kind of tether you to your pc? Splashtop or Logmein allows you to do this anywhere.
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You are talking direct wireless connection from tablet to monitor, not going through a wireless router or connection? Interesting idea, but why not just go through a wireless connection? Wouldn't this also kind of tether you to your pc? Splashtop or Logmein allows you to do this anywhere.
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All I'm talking about is a PC or laptop with a second display thats wireless. Then we call it a tablet because it has a touch screen that sends signals back to the PC or laptop to move the mouse or rather gestures. Not cloud computing, I have done this and it's terrible. Cloud is basically remote desktop which is choppy and worse then current tablets. What I'm talking about would make the performance increase as Intel claims virtually no latency with WIDI and even 5 milliseconds would be hard to notice considering how laggy android is as it's basically a virtual machine.
Hereis a clip I just found, not sure if it's available yet but:
Now ASUS brings another solution to the table, the WiCast, which can be connected to any computer and any television and promises latency-free 1080p video and audio.
Hey all. I wanted to make a little "Public Service Announcement" regarding an issue that I have had for quite some time and finally solved tonight. I'm hoping it will help someone else because the symptoms of the issue were very strange and an answer was not forthcoming through standard searching.
I have an HTC M8 (Verizon) and I have been having problems with my "Mobile Hotspot" feature for a while. I thought the issue happened after my first upgrade to Marshmallow, but as it turns out the issue was with my Windows 10 PCs (read on...).
Basically, I was able to connect to my phone's Wifi "Mobile Hotspot" without any problems from an iPad tablet or from my wife's Samsung phone. However, when I tried to connect from my Windows 10 PC I had very strange symptoms.
As per my profession, I consider myself somewhat an expert on Windows and networking in general (not "the expert" but "an expert" ). What was so strange about this issue was that the Windows 10 PCs would see the SSID from my phone without a problem. they would connect after providing the encryption key, and they would even get an IP address from the phone's DHCP server. But, after that, they failed to communicate on the network at all. Not even able to ping the phone (default gateway).
I won't go into the details of all my troubleshooting steps (everything from reboots to wireshark analysis), but honestly nothing worked. I determined it must be an issue with Windows 10 after having two different Windows 10 laptops fail to connect properly. I remembered that I didn't have these issues when my system was running Windows 7.
Even armed with this information I was unable to research to any suitable solution online, when I came across a post somewhere that hinted at a similar connectivity issue. The poster seemed to indicate that the Microsoft drivers caused some issues with their devices that was resolved using older vendor drivers.
Both my Windows 10 laptops in questions are quite old. They were never meant to run anything past Windows Vista/7. Because of this, the vendors didn't really offer complete driver packages for these systems for Windows 10. But, during the Windows 10 installation, the OS detected all the hardware in these laptops automatically and, until today the provided Microsoft drivers seemed totally functional.
I hunted down the latest drivers I could find from the vendors (HP/Dell) and using device manager forced the installation of those driver packages. Immediately upon update to those drivers I was able to connect 100% properly to the Mobile Hotspot and access the Internet.
As it turns out, it seems both laptops had Broadcom based cards - so I suspect the issue may be specifically with Microsoft's Broadcom driver.
Hopefully this comes up in a search for the next person having similar issues.