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[RaNt] Read before sounding stupid

These developers put so much time into these roms and customizations to keep answering the same questions in a thread. I mean Cmon. I know every last one of them,with the kindness of their hearts,answer anyways. But I read every post and its the same damn questions,about the same damn topics and problems. If your writing the question,I'm sure u can read. So here we go.....
1. Open xda and on main page,click on more,then down to search
2. Type your search. Weather its a question,theme,kernel,rom, pornstar. Whatever just search.
3. If search is down (never been for me), then type in Google.com and type your search and then type "xda" afterwards. (Ex.Miui Inspire Xda). Now tell me what you see.
4. READ THE OP!!!! 95% of questions can be answered by reading the first 6 posts. Its fairly easy. And if you don't see it,then look through the pages. Or try methods 2&3.
....point is these developers provide great work with much pride. And I know they love to help and offer great support,but I know many MAY want a break from the spamming of the same crap every other post "what's the recommended radio" or "where can I download the kernel". I mean open your eyes. Even a blind folded,stuck in the basement,sleeping Stevie wonder can find the answers. Your is a android,meaning resources all over the place,put it to use!! This is my rant in support of developers all over!!!
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Couldn't have said it better.

Great advice. Its just as bad over an AndroidCentral where every post is the same question as the previous thread, lol.

Well I didn't wanna be a jerk but I mean over in the kingdom section,capy has to explain how to wipe data through recovery. Instead people post about flashing fullwipe 1.3 and idk y. I mean damn he posted a damn YouTube video. Maybe ppl can't read but a video and still can't figure it out?
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Agreed.
This phenomenon is ****ing mind-numbing.
Seriously, I keep asking myself why I can't feel the left side of my brain anymore.
Repetitive Post Syndrome.
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Yes Scott. I know I sound like a angry woman on the rag,but its not about *****ing. Grown men older than me,can't even follow directions. I'm 25 and I read before I do ANYTHING that idk how to do or second guess. If u can turn your phone on,then you can do this. If you can sext your tranny at 3am,u can so this. Not hard ppl. Like I've always said,can't fix stupid.
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Although this should be common sense matt, common sense isn't too common anymore. I couldn't say your original post any better than that.
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It's like this where I work. No one bothers to read anything anymore. It's beyond frustrating
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dooyoo222 said:
...common sense isn't too common anymore.
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Was it ever?
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Guys, much as I agree with you, there's another side to the story.
Many of these dev threads can get to be thousands of posts long, dragging across hundreds or more pages. Take as an example threads on Capy's work where he has threads of hundreds of posts in two different sections (Inspire and DHD), and that's just one ROM in question, never mind if you don't know which ROM you want.
Then, there's the search function. Right. If you're a n00b, you don't necessarily know what terms to use because you don't know what the F you're talking about yet. And those of us here ranting about doing a search don't help when I've seen the term kernel spelled Karnel, Kernal, Karnal, Carnel, and many other variants.
What I'm getting at are four things, the first being the most important.
1) Devs must be clear in their documentation, and put thorough and explicit instructions in the first few posts. Many of what YOU think are stupid questions arise from unclear instructions. For example, I used the CWM 'factory reset' function before Capy posted the video, so I wasn't sure if I needed to wipe partitions individually.
2) Be sure you have "clean hands" when criticizing others. I've seen so much immature teenager 'chopspeak' here (y dont u try 2 wipe agn), misspellings, and other grammatical mistakes that we must be aware that those of us who have not been here for any amount of time have not acquired a knowledge base and don't know what terms to use or what to ask and how to ask it.
3) There are also off topic posts in every thread which add to the difficulty when you're trying to get to the meat of a problem. Have you always posted specifically on-topic information every time you post in a thread? I doubt it. Be mindful that if a new user is casually trying to come by information, reading through dozens of pages peppered with OT 'chat' can be daunting.
4) If you see a question being asked that was not specifically addressed in the first post, recommend to the dev that it be added to an FAQ that should be contained in the first couple posts.
Of course, if the instructions are clear, and a stupid and/or redundant question is asked, then the poster must be *****-slapped into submission.
Just my two cents. Let's be sure we're not contributing to the problems ourselves.

If the dumb asses at AT&T would quit jacking with Android, there would be a lot less of that here. There are too many noobs that are not going to take the time to properly learn, nor do they want to. They just want to quickly root so their hsupa will be enabled, they can sideload, they can remove AT&T crap, etc... Probably going to get worse when AT&T drags ass releasing the gingerbread update. Too bad there is no one click for the Inspire.
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@bill, and the flip side to that is that maybe the person needs to read all 100 pages. I really don't have a lot of sympathy for people who say they don't have the time. we are all busy. it doesn't take that long to
skim. I spent a few days reading how to root before I did it and everything worked out. days, not minutes.
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@Billy,bro idk if u just wanna rebel against the topic or not but its plain as day. Read and search it period. Maybe in one thread kernel is misspelled. Then scroll through the pages and ill certainly say you will find your word. And if it does say kernal,etc then search the dang thing till it works. Y'all have pity on these people that just can't do more than just look it up on their phone. And most the time the OP has all the information and if not on the first 5 posts,then ill be certain if they read to the first 20 posts,they will see the same related questions. I see it in almost every posting after the OP's. I'm not criticizing nor downing anyone,I'm simply saying that give these threads and forums a break. Ill bet you if you deleted every post that was a repost of another,more than half of the xda android,windows forums would be cut in half or more. Instead of asking same questions, state what u did and how you did it. Then the OP can see what step u went wrong. Instead of "I flashed the newer version over the older one, nothing works what do I do?" when clearly the OP states to wipe and through cwm. I work with ignorant people and lazy asses. If you own a Inspire and plan to root and hack,first learn to read. If not you will be bricked
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I agree with the OP 100%. Over half the posts are from people who bought their first Android phone. Ran home jumped on Google to find out how to "root" because they heard about it. Jumped into it without reading anything. Then when something breaks they demand help. Well you should have read and read some more. Before I rooted I read about all the problems that happen, so if they did I knew what to do. I have been on this site for 2 years now and it is getting worse and worse.
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I waited three weeks to root mine. I had to learn how to use command on windows through my phone. Then what the hell a gold card was. Then once I created my gc, I followed the video step by step. Then it was rooted. Especially don't ask questions about rooting the Inspire,go to YouTube and type "rooting HTC inspire 4g". Bam, your set. Darkside and to all of you thank you for realizing I'm not scoulding anyone just trying to help maintain order around here. That's all
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I agree with the OP 100%. Over half the posts are from people who bought their first Android phone. Ran home jumped on Google to find out how to "root" because they heard about it. Jumped into it without reading anything. Then when something breaks they demand help. Well you should have read and read some more. Before I rooted I read about all the problems that happen, so if they did I knew what to do. I have been on this site for 2 years now and it is getting worse and worse.
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darkside1904 said:
I agree with the OP 100%. Over half the posts are from people who bought their first Android phone. Ran home jumped on Google to find out how to "root" because they heard about it. Jumped into it without reading anything. Then when something breaks they demand help. Well you should have read and read some more. Before I rooted I read about all the problems that happen, so if they did I knew what to do. I have been on this site for 2 years now and it is getting worse and worse.
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So, your lucky... what if after your hours, and days, and weeks, and years of reading, something went wrong... you wouldnt ask for help?
I got my phone, went to youtube, asked a few questions here and was rooted with in the hour..
This is my first android phone, I come from the iphone if that means anything. I had a lot of jailbreaks under my belt, but rooting was not the same..
heres what I do...
I read (HELP ME JAILBREAK MY IPHONE) thread.. I have two options, click... or dont click... If all I'm gonna do is go in the thread and cry about a search bar.... I dont click!!!!! If I'm gonna help I'l click, and I dont cry about it.. my point? Don't click on threads you dont want to read!!!

Point is don't come into this thread and start your *****ing. If you would had READ MY POSTS I stated "instead of asking the same questions,why not state what you did and what happened". See your still not reading. Because in sure by 100% you will not be the only one with the issue(s). Exactly my point ..case settled
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So, your lucky... what if after your hours, and days, and weeks, and years of reading, something went wrong... you wouldnt ask for help?
I got my phone, went to youtube, asked a few questions here and was rooted with in the hour..
This is my first android phone, I come from the iphone if that means anything. I had a lot of jailbreaks under my belt, but rooting was not the same..
heres what I do...
I read (HELP ME JAILBREAK MY IPHONE) thread.. I have two options, click... or dont click... If all I'm gonna do is go in the thread and cry about a search bar.... I dont click!!!!! If I'm gonna help I'l click, and I dont cry about it.. my point? Don't click on threads you dont want to read!!!
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ok, you got me.. I didnt have the time to read through this whole thread.. this one is my bad, since it's only 2 pages...
but there are threads, with great information that have 200 pages... the trick is to find the right page!
it's simple bud, you dont HAVE to click on a thread you have already seen a 100 times. Or you can, and be helpful.. make the android world a better place. It works two fold... people can feel ok about asking even stupid questions such as the thread with the guy asking about the Thunderbolt on ATT!!!
and you build a community with help for eachother.. which in it self leaves the apple world in the dust... bunch of smug stuck ups, that walk around with thier eyes wide shut! lol I know... I was one of them!

This is turning into flaming. It will get close just like the other one.
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Thremix said:
heres what I do...
I read (HELP ME JAILBREAK MY IPHONE) thread.. I have two options, click... or dont click... If all I'm gonna do is go in the thread and cry about a search bar.... I dont click!!!!! If I'm gonna help I'l click, and I dont cry about it.. my point? Don't click on threads you dont want to read!!!
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If that question has been answered many times, it does get annoying. It doesn't take too much time just to search. Most people that have asked questions recently are too LAZY to look for the answer. There is a 99.9% chance that threads which were created this week were questions answer already many times. We are here help our fellow community members, not spoon feed them.
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@Billy :if your having that hard of a time,do as I did with Adam and id10terrordfw..PM them asking a quick question that's more like "I did this and followed that and used recommended radio and everything but no go,what did I do wrong?" See difference between that then asking "how do I flash the radio that's recommended?" Or "how do I wipe in recovery?" Or "you need to fix this in next update." I mean come on. Stupidity always fails and makes u look like a idiot.
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i dont feel welcome

ok ok i know im new hear but first impressions. i dont fell welcome.
the problem isnt the users hear. they are great..........its the moderators.
all i see is threds less than 24hours old with no replyes are closed. threads that need to be talked about. also threads that where closed for no reason. or some one has made a mistake and rather than fix the problom they just close it.
why are they doing this?
also after meany pleas from alot of users. they still refuse to make an xperia pro (not mini) thread or a sony tablet p thread
we cant "just use the xperia arc or xperia s forums" as they are still verry different when it comes to rooting ect,
this place moderated in the wrong way. this isnt supposed to be a dictatorship
im shore im going to get band for this but it only proves my point
just a few examples
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642936
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1642807
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644487
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644233
also they keep crying "USE THE SEARCH".........im sorry but the "search" needs some work in a big way

Welcome.
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so did you just post this trying to make your way to the 10 post rule? im just saying... it looks that way because its just a few pages that your talking about, but any way... i just sign up because i got the HTC one x and android forums dont have people on it yet to help with the AT&T X. but you could always try them out... ive always gotten alot of useful info from AF.

Grow up. XDA is free. Most of us here, including mods, do this for NOTHING, except the occasional press of the thanks button.
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I'm sorry you feel that way dude, but you have to remember that the primary goal of XDA is development. Lot's of friendly people do their best to help the less tech savvy work their way through how to do things, but the primary purpose is to make it as easy as possible for the developers to develop. That means spam needs to be kept to a minimum.
I'm sorry, but that's just the way things are, and the majority of users are ok with this because they see that the results of this Iron Fist is faster and better development for all.

Isn't that video a part of the sign-up process anyway?

I don't believe so, but it should be. And if there was any place to vote on that, I'd vote for it 100%. I really, really believe it would help cut down on threads like these, especially since it has some humor in it and not everyone knows how to use a forum from the get go.

Hmmm.......I think this forum is great....

Half of the threads that are posted in different sections don't belong there. It's annoying seeing "Why is my phone rebooting?" with a very vague description of the problem, in the General section.
That's why most are closed, they're just in the wrong section.
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Go watch 'the video' sparky
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Thread closed. If you have a problem with the moderators, this is not the place to take it up with us.

Complaints thread (cons)

Post all complaints on this thread I will keep a list of all of them
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My only complaint is that the One X seems to attract all the biggest babies to XDA that make completely unnecessary threads, such as this one.

Agree.. there's plenty of threads about the issues of this phone.
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_MetalHead_ said:
My only complaint is that the One X seems to attract all the biggest babies to XDA that make completely unnecessary threads, such as this one.
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This.
Thread needs to be closed.

Why? Someone is trying to put all the info in one place. If you don't like it, don't read it. It's called "freedom".
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c5satellite2 said:
Why? Someone is trying to put all the info in one place. If you don't like it, don't read it. It's called "freedom".
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yeaht thanks alot thats all im trying instead of people such as the first couple poster posting threads bout every single issue jsut one thread that covers all in one

Yes he is trying to help you don't see a comment section in xda so this is a plus even though it's about cons of a phone...
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c5satellite2 said:
Why? Someone is trying to put all the info in one place. If you don't like it, don't read it. It's called "freedom".
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True, but it also is becoming clutter. People aren't going to stop posting in the threads already started to say the same things here, so it's just adding to the pile.

Reamer09 said:
True, but it also is becoming clutter. People aren't going to stop posting in the threads already started to say the same things here, so it's just adding to the pile.
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This exactly. Consolidated complaint threads NEVER work.

Bootloader is still locked
now close the thread.

Thanks, but...
thanks for giving this a shot, but there is already a forum dedicated entirely to complaints; its called Engadget.

This thread has been hijacked and is defeating the purpose. Can someone please delete all the posts other than the op so it can be relevant.
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I'm not sure why people feel the need to create redundant threads either. Maybe it makes them feel cool that they're the op? What not just add relevant discussion to threads that are already ongoing? And even after they get all this info together, they are the same people that ask really dumb questions in development threads lol...Complain on the HTC website.

fitchpuckman said:
thanks for giving this a shot, but there is already a forum dedicated entirely to complaints; its called Engadget.
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+1
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I hate that my iPhone has more gbs and has the wifis
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My complaint is this, take the phone back to the store and grab something else. Real talk. If it doesnt suit your needs, get something different. Real simple. I'm personally not gonna keep anything that I have complaints about, especially for the money it cost. Take it back!
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I really think people forget what it means to be an early adopter.

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I really think people forget what it means to be an early adopter.
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+1000

Im amazed at how different the communities are for various android phones.
Coming from iphones the last 3 years , i bought my first android phone (galaxy nexus) and the community was great, made me happy to make the switch.
Ive moved on to the one x and can safely say this is getting the the point of pathetic. On one hand we have people crying about the smallest of issues , then on the other, we have total hard asses constantly flooding the posts with their unnecessary comments (which is just as annoying).
grow up people

aimetti said:
Im amazed at how different the communities are for various android phones.
Coming from iphones the last 3 years , i bought my first android phone (galaxy nexus) and the community was great, made me happy to make the switch.
Ive moved on to the one x and can safely say this is getting the the point of pathetic. On one hand we have people crying about the smallest of issues , then on the other, we have total hard asses constantly flooding the posts with their unnecessary comments (which is just as annoying).
grow up people
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I hope you aren't basing this mindset solely on what you've found in this thread, because this is hardly the prime example of what the HOX forums have to offer. In fact, I would say it's a very poor sampling. If you look around these forums you are surely going to find a bit complaining and trolling, but for the most part you are going to see that there is wonderful collaboration, praise, thanking, sharing, and comradery on a fairly remarkable level. If you dont like it, please feel free to find another device or forum that suits you better. But dont come here to flood a complaint thread with complaints about complaining, you're just perpetuating that which you allegedly find pathetic. Also keep in mind that these threads are quite new and the moderators are working hard to maintain decency and integrity herein.

The Phone For You

First of all, there's been a hell of a lot of threads being made for a while now asking 'What phone to get' or 'S3 vs One X' for example and now there's more and more being made daily and there's just too many now.
That's where the idea for this threads comes into place. Any questions you wanna ask about comparing phones before you buy them, ask them in here.
There's 2 main good points about this -
1. Someone else in here could've already asked about phones that you wanted to compare. If so, you can read the answer and that way you've found out exactly what you wanted without typing a single thing or having to wait for a reply. And...
2. It will stop what will inevitably be more posts all regarding the same thing, from littering the forum. And any that are posted outside of this thread can be directed straight to here where their answer could already be awaiting them.
Simple as that!
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Agreed, But really, Popular and repetitive comparisons like the S3 vs ONE X is easily googleable now, If not websites, Other android forums might have discussed that before.
But yeah, Both the popular and unpopular phone comparisons need only one thread, Even the tablet ones, They are multiplying now.
Also, In that way, Someone with a similar phone comparison (popular or not) as yours will be easier to find and you will be able to choose carefully without turning the general forums into a "What phone to buy" forums.
Oh and BTW, Can you make one for the "My phone is bricked/laggy/(insert problem here)" threads?

I just used the S3 vs One X as an example really, but yeah I totally agree that google has it covered and youtube is full of videos for the high end phones against each other.
The aim is to make this easier for people anyway so hopefully it works. I PMd orb3000 just after I made this to see if he'd consider making it a sticky. Not sure if he will or not, but that'll then make it even easier to be honest.
And I already think there's a thread for that. I could be wrong but I think I saw one a while back. I'll have a look around and then if not, I'll make one either later today or tomorrow. It all depends on how busy I am
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Hello fellow Htc one s brothers and sisters:laugh:

So as many of you have already noticed by the many threads here on xda, htc has officially cancelled any type of software update to the awesome htc one s which is really disappointing considered this phone is capable of handling basically anything you can throw at it imo. That being said I personally am annoyed because I refused to root or use custom roms up until htc stopped ota updates support completely and so that day has come.I want to greet all the members and devs here on the htc one s forums and thank you all because with your wisdom and experiences as well as the latest and greatest custom roms kernal etc are only possible by you guys and so this phone will never die and will live on still competing against the latest and greatest phones. So yea sorry for the long rant but welcome another htc one s brother into the club :laugh:. BTW anyone recommend some of the best roms and kernals that are the most stable I would greatly appreciate it so much thank you and long live the htc one s!!!!!:good::good::good::good:

what's the point of making a new thread to say this? It's just like spam... There is a thank button for a reason
2nd it's against xda rules to use comparison forums, test urself and make ur opinion

k1llacanon said:
what's the point of making a new thread to say this? It's just like spam... There is a thank button for a reason
2nd it's against xda rules to use comparison forums, test urself and make ur opinion
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Well hey there I can assure you I am no spam bot just wanted to say hi to fellow members If it bothered you so much why did you post? Just read and move on
2nd I am in no way shape or form comparing roms just asking for opinions from member so I can flash by recommendation that is all no need to be sour and hostile

no need to be sour and hostile 
Youll unfortunately find a lot of response like that. Welcome .
Read a lot and search . Lots of good info
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Thread closed. Asking for best ROMs or ROM comparisons is not allowed. Furthermore, there is already another thread about the One S not getting any updates, so use that.