Is there software out there that companies can run and audit there phones to tell if users have rooted their phones?
Run synergy and not sweat it. TrevE **** blocked all that ****.
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Is there software out there that companies can run and audit there phones to tell if users have rooted their phones?
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Actually no, HTC will know if you unlock by unlocking your bootloader on their site
I think Verizon knows what firmware your running when you update but I don't think it should even be a problem.
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Actually no, HTC will know if you unlock by unlocking your bootloader on their site
I think Verizon knows what firmware your running when you update but I don't think it should even be a problem.
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HTC don't know that you are unlocked. Only that you requested the unlock token. Verizon does check the software but whether they know you are rooted I don't know. There is root detect in the software itself that is why Trev disabled it. What happens I don't know. Have never done an OTA on any device since I got my first Tbolt and rooted it right away. No need to take OTA. We usually get the RUU before it is ever released and the devs deem it safe or make it safe within 24 hours.
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HTC don't know that you are unlocked. Only that you requested the unlock token. Verizon does check the software but whether they know you are rooted I don't know. There is root detect in the software itself that is why Trev disabled it. What happens I don't know. Have never done an OTA on any device since I got my first Tbolt and rooted it right away. No need to take OTA. We usually get the RUU before it is ever released and the devs deem it safe or make it safe within 24 hours.
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That's what I meant by unlocking using the site
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Just curious as I don't want to root if they have a way of knowing you compromised the phone.
On the razr there is a boot menu they can go into to see if the device has ever been rooted, is currently rooted, or has been rooted but not at the moment. Ive never heard of anything on the GS3 like this
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So what is the Site? Thanks for the help
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I honestly dont think the carriers go through evey phone like some people would think they do. Well idk about vzw but when i was with tmobile for 6 years ive sent back about 10 phones some i left rooted and nevwr got hit with a out of warranty charge.
But you never know better safe then sorry i guess
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I had my S3 replaced today becuase the power/lock button broke. When the vzw rep. brought out my replacement device it had a sticker on the phone that said updated. After activating and checking the building number I can confirm that VZW is updating their stock to a newer version. My current build number is I535VRALG1 and baseband is I535VRLG1. Does any one know if I can flash the previous version in Odin. I am afraid that they might have done this to block our current root method. This is the first I have heard about this current build.
Wanna help us out on IRC?
We need to see if you can root and what your system dump looks like.
any idea on what the update is?
I am heading to school right now and I do not get out until 11 o'clock eastern time. When I get home tonight I'll join the irc if somebody can be kind enough to let me know what channel it is.
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I see the channels in LLstarks sig I will join in tonight when I get back from school
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Anymore info on this? I just had a phone shipped out on Monday, received today. Same little UPDATED sticker on the phone and box.
It would be nice to get some new radios. Would they be flashable with a locked bootlader?
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It would be nice to get some new radios. Would they be flashable with a locked bootlader?
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Nope. Having a locked bootloader means we can't flash radios, kernels, or change boot animations ONLY roms.
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maybe his has the new software with the unlocked bootloader.... LOL
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maybe his has the new software with the unlocked bootloader.... LOL
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LOL can u imagine? haha
Hopefully its rootable with updates to fix any issues.
Anyone gotten this OTA yet?
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How would we update this then? Stock recovery? Shouldn't make a difference if we've overwritten the recovery.img, since the only thing that seems checked is that the boot.img is signed.
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Get a better signal with the new baseband? Or more consistant?
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Nope. Having a locked bootloader means we can't flash radios, kernels, or change boot animations ONLY roms.
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You're probably right about the baseband but people have already flashed kernels and boot ani's.
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Nope. Having a locked bootloader means we can't flash radios, kernels, or change boot animations ONLY roms.
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Radios are unknown at the moment (most likely can flash update no problem, not sure about flashing downgrade). However boot animations ARE part of the rom, just FYI. Also kernels are flashable as well, just has to be done through a workaround method.
It probably takes away the search the whole phone function of S-Voice and some other small updates.
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Radios are unknown at the moment (most likely can flash update no problem, not sure about flashing downgrade). However boot animations ARE part of the rom, just FYI. Also kernels are flashable as well, just has to be done through a workaround method.
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Ahh, touche. I was under the impression that flashing kernels was a proof of concept still not a done deal. Also, I wrote boot animation but was thinking splash screen regardless you are right.
Was just about to post the same thing actually. I just had my phone exchanged today and got the UPDATED sticker on it. Haven't tried to root it yet, though. Was going to wait a while to see if this topic came up/new update gets rooted. I really don't want to mess with it either. Just popped in to say that I got the same updated phone.
My co-worker received his phone yesterday and wanted me to root it for him, but it showed "updated" as well - new build/baseband number. To be safe I decided to hold off on rooting till we get some sort of confirmation.
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My co-worker received his phone yesterday and wanted me to root it for him, but it showed "updated" as well - new build/baseband number. To be safe I decided to hold off on rooting till we get some sort of confirmation.
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Well I was going to flash the rooted image last night but fell asleep while waiting for my phone to charge. I get home a little earlier tonight so I will try flashing and see what happens. According to invisiblek I should be able to just factory reset if flashing in Odin fails. I just don't wanna Bork my phone. I also want root though....lol
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It seems AT&T is pushing out an OTA version 2.20 that is rumored to close all the loopholes we've used to unlock and root the One X.
If you have NOT rooted and unlocked your bootloader and you want to do so don't accept the update.
Wait until someone has gotten a hold of this version and picked it apart before installing it.
Keep Calm and Carry On.
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If you have NOT rooted and unlocked your bootloader and you want to do so don't accept the update.
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Even if you are rooted and unlocked BL, don't accept the OTA, unless you are brave and feel like being the guinea pig (I guess somebody has to be). The install may not work, or it may wipe out root, and the existing root methods may have been plugged up. OTA Rootkeeper might work. It did for the last OTA, but there is no guarantee that it will work this time. Somebody will probably post this as a recovery flashable zip in pre-rooted form. So be patient, unless you feel like experimenting, and living with the consequences.
Thanks for the public service announcement, as I'm sure people will start asking whether its safe to install the OTA.
I figured people who rooted would know this but thank you for adding it.
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I figured people who rooted would know this but thank you for adding it.
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It never fails to surprise me how may people who are rooted try to install an OTA.
Bu-bu-but I want the update NOW. Can I plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz install it? I know you said its not safe, but is it safe?
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It never fails to surprise me how may people who are rooted try to install an OTA.
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Or how many people unroot just so they can get an OTA that will provide very little added performance if any. People are sooooo quick to accept OTAs when they have no clue what they are for. I can understand wanting to accept an OTA for a major OS update like ICS to JB (ok that was a lie, I still have no clue why people would rather accept an OTA than just flash a rooted ROM) but to give up root for a simple MR is just asinine.
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Metalhead it's part of the changing face of XDA I'm afraid. the D is secondary in a lot of members minds.
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Metalhead it's part of the changing face of XDA I'm afraid. the D is secondary in a lot of members minds.
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Yep. This place is turning into a general Android forum. All the "I'm not really into rooting" posts crack me up.
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It needs to be taught that people need to wait for the devs to take the ota's and root them
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It needs to be taught that people need to wait for the devs to take the ota's
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Yup.
I'm actually excited about the OTA, looking forward to another challenge
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I'm actually excited about the OTA, looking forward to another challenge
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yeah but you're old school.
(and a little weird)
got replacement, has 1.85 firm, but everytime i run the root script, it says new at&t software update??? im assuming its not gonna let me root!!!
Something like this should go without saying. Any xda member that's foolhardy enough to download an ota without knowing the consequences, probably doesn't belong here in the first place.
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got replacement, has 1.85 firm, but everytime i run the root script, it says new at&t software update??? im assuming its not gonna let me root!!!
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Oooh maybe not.
Pull the sim and disconnect WiFi, might work /shrug
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Oooh maybe not.
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Now that I'm thinking about it, this is a pretty effective method to block and patch our root exploit
And I'm glad I did it last night
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Interesting that this wasn't leaked, and this is the first news we got of this new version. AT&T must be upgrading its internal security.
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Interesting that this wasn't leaked, and this is the first news we got of this new version. AT&T must be upgrading its internal security.
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yeah there's NOTHING anywhere else about this.
I'm glad I'm rooted
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Pull the sim and disconnect WiFi, might work /shrug
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If I'm not mistaken, the exploit uses the AT&T update server to trick the phone into download mode, so I don't think this could work.
hey all.
i planned on getting my GS3 a week or so ago buy a family member on my family plan decided to take the upgrade without letting me know and now im stuck waiting for the next upgrade (comes in november)
i wanted to know if the current unlock bootloader method is permanent? as in cant be patch by future OTA updates?
i should have my GS3 by the end of this month (no later than the first few days of november) but i dont want to end up getting the phone then come to find that they released a OTA update (maybe official JB) and it patches the unlock method.
please bare with me as i have very little knowledge on how some things work with phones. im trying to learn. i have pc hardware pretty much down though (LOL)
i know that root methods can change easily with updates to the phone but not sure about unlocked bootloaders
thanks guys for reading and hopefully helping me out.
It could be patched, yes. However, if you unlock and install a custom recovery and never take an OTA, you will be fine. All you would have to do is be patient enough to wait for a Dev to release a safe version for you to flash.
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It could be patched, yes. However, if you unlock and install a custom recovery and never take an OTA, you will be fine. All you would have to do is be patient enough to wait for a Dev to release a safe version for you to flash.
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Once I get my phone first thing will be to root and unlock bootlader. I don't plan locking the boot loader (unless I had to issue with the phone and needed a replacment)
I'm just worried that when I can use my early upgrade and buy the phone it would be to late and a ota would be on the phone already that would cause it to not be able to unlock.
I should be fine (plan on getting phone on October 29th) but I don't want to be stick with a phone I can't install ROMs to. (Hate touchwiz) want aosp.
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i wanted to know if the current unlock bootloader method is permanent? as in cant be patch by future OTA updates?
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Nope, it could be patched in an update.
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You'll be fine. We have access to an unsecured bootloader so they can't patch that. The problem could be obtaining root. The current root method exploit could get patched and then another method needs to be found.
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I'm sure even if they did patch it, we can Odin back to original factory firmware and unlock again.
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You should be fine. Even if there is a OTA it most likely wont come installed out of the box.
Even if they put out an ota you can just use Odin and put older firmware onto the phone.
nothing lasts forever...
It will be patched but then unlocked again by the great dev here at xda
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It will be patched but then unlocked again by the great dev here at xda
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They didnt unlock it the first time. It was a leaked bootloader that got it unlocked.
Hey guys-
I use Good for Enterprise on my gs3, currently running stock ICS. I want to flash the new stock rooted JB leak (11/15 kernel) but since Good is not officially supported on JB with this device, my supervisor is telling me not to do it since it could cause the app to not work right. I am rooted with an unlocked bootloader just itching to flash this...
Getting new PINs for the app are not an issue, since I am one of the Good admins in my company.
Anyone know if it is ok for me to do this? I think he is being ridiculous about this, considering we know it has gs3 support and JB support. Sprint has has JB for weeks already!
Doesn't this app check for root? The company I work for uses Good and a buddy had a S3 rooted (Sprint) and the admins said he couldn't use it because he was rooted. If you put on a stock not rooted image then I would think it would work unless JB gives it problems.
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Try it. Make sure you do a nandroid backup first. If you run into a problem you can just revert back to what you were using before you flashed and pick up like you never wiped all data apps and info are restored.
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Doesn't this app check for root? The company I work for uses Good and a buddy had a S3 rooted (Sprint) and the admins said he couldn't use it because he was rooted. If you put on a stock not rooted image then I would think it would work unless JB gives it problems.
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I have been rooted for a few months now, and have not come across an issue... I have read that it checks for root also, but maybe the way my company configured it, it doesn't matter?
I am the guy in my office that configures the PINs and i can see device status for everything, and mine seems normal.
Go ahead and give it a try if your comfortable doing it like the above post has, make a nandroid and go at it!
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Go ahead and give it a try if your comfortable doing it like the above post has, make a nandroid and go at it!
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i decided to suck it up and give it a shot... IT WORKS!
I don't really know what this means but if it means a future employer of mine doesn't notice I'm rooted, thanks for asking this question.
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Hey guys-
I use Good for Enterprise on my gs3, currently running stock ICS. I want to flash the new stock rooted JB leak (11/15 kernel) but since Good is not officially supported on JB with this device, my supervisor is telling me not to do it since it could cause the app to not work right. I am rooted with an unlocked bootloader just itching to flash this...
Getting new PINs for the app are not an issue, since I am one of the Good admins in my company.
Anyone know if it is ok for me to do this? I think he is being ridiculous about this, considering we know it has gs3 support and JB support. Sprint has has JB for weeks already!
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Your employer can choose whether to allow Good on a rooted device. Mine allows it, and Good works fine on my GS3 with the first JB release.. Except for the "secure browser".. Apparently that does not support JB yet.
how long before someone figures out how to root this phone? I can't buy it unless it's rooted. thanks!
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how long before someone figures out how to root this phone? I can't buy it unless it's rooted. thanks!
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I think the real question is how long before someone finds a software exploit that allows S-Off.
I honestly think we have a long, long wait, if we ever see it.
Just my opinion.
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I think the real question is how long before someone finds a software exploit that allows S-Off.
I honestly think we have a long, long wait, if we ever see it.
Just my opinion.
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I think I read somewhere that it will be nearly impossible to root this phone....
GPE or developer's edition isn't for Verizon, so I guess this means no HTC One M8 for me.
It's never nearly impossible to root
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Who knows. Silly question.
Hopefully someone will
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Im pretty content with stock ATM. Actually enjoying blinkfeed now and sense 6 ain't too shabby. That being said I'd love a good rom like viper.
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Im pretty content with stock ATM. Actually enjoying blinkfeed now and sense 6 ain't too shabby. That being said I'd love a good rom like viper.
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I sent the Viper team a System dump the day of release. Once we have a method of unlock, I doubt Verizon support will be far behind. (And I'll be beta testing it...)
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I'm kind of wondering how long it will take and if it will get done? I'm coming from the Note3, which had terrible developer support because of the boot loader, and I don't want the same thing to happen here. I paid full retail, but I'm thinking of returning;
I feel like two days in if we don't have root yet, this thing is going to be tough to crack.
Every other phone I had, had root pretty much in the first day.
I'm not sure what to do.
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I'm kind of wondering how long it will take and if it will get done? I'm coming from the Note3, which had terrible developer support because of the boot loader, and I don't want the same thing to happen here. I paid full retail, but I'm thinking of returning;
I feel like two days in if we don't have root yet, this thing is going to be tough to crack.
Every other phone I had, had root pretty much in the first day.
I'm not sure what to do.
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Are you kidding? Two days for a phone chipset that had like 10 iterations of security? I will bet that no one will get a root exploit unless it comes in the form of s-off because its silly to have root without s-off on HTC phones. Beups,jcase or whoever is working on the phone likely have root exploits already (and they always save one or two for a rainy day) and are not going to release it on it's own. Be patient, stop asking for ETAs.
How is root only different on HTC devices vs other OEMs?
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How is root only different on HTC devices vs other OEMs?
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I'd like to be know too. Coming from Samsung Note2
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I'd like to be know too. Coming from Samsung Note2
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Well for one root only won't allow us an insecure kernel to be flashed. That means /system write protection will still be in place.
Unlock allows you to flash custom recovery and kernels.
S-off let's you do all (even firmware downgrades)
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Well for one root only won't allow us an insecure kernel to be flashed. That means /system write protection will still be in place.
Unlock allows you to flash custom recovery and kernels.
S-off let's you do all (even firmware downgrades)
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So then what is "root only" able to do? Especially the type we know have available that only roots after a minute after a reboot so that first minute on reboot you are not rooted. Makes me think rooted apps/tweaks won't work right since after boot they can't go into effect since root hasn't kicked in yet???
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So then what is "root only" able to do? Especially the type we know have available that only roots after a minute after a reboot so that first minute on reboot you are not rooted. Makes me think rooted apps/tweaks won't work right since after boot they can't go into effect since root hasn't kicked in yet???
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A lot won't work right. Write protection will revert most changes back after a reboot. Root can be effective for some changes that don't need to persist a reboot. Just all depends on what you use root for. Non-system app data back-up/restore is a good example.
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A lot won't work right. Write protection will revert most changes back after a reboot. Root can be effective for some changes that don't need to persist a reboot. Just all depends on what you use root for. Non-system app data back-up/restore is a good example.
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So basically anything that needs root at startup won't work. So basically this method of root is only good to maybe copy internal files to external sd card bypassing that kit Kat crap?
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So basically anything that needs root at startup won't work. So basically this method of root is only good to maybe copy internal files to external sd card bypassing that kit Kat crap?
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Until we figure out a method to disable write protection that's pretty much gonna be it. Write protection on this phone is just as much a pain in the ass as it was on the one and one max.
It will happen though. That's the only thing we know for certain.
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Until we figure out a method to disable write protection that's pretty much gonna be it. Write protection on this phone is just as much a pain in the ass as it was on the one and one max.
It will happen though. That's the only thing we know for certain.
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Ok. Thank you for explaining. I was always spoiled before and HTC devices I had were simple s-Off or everything but s-Off so could still do just about anything. Just gotta be patient but honestly surprised how fast we got this temp root only already! In sure the development will start kicking in.
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Ok. Thank you for explaining. I was always spoiled before and HTC devices I had were simple s-Off or everything but s-Off so could still do just about anything. Just gotta be patient but honestly surprised how fast we got this temp root only already! In sure the development will start kicking in.
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The biggest hurdle for us is the fact we cannot even use HTC dev to boot loader unlock. That's why we now have to wait to get a working s-off method. Its only a matter of time.
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I'd think you should be able to HTCdev unlock the bootloader and do what I did on my old EVO 3D which was to flash the boot.img separately through fastboot. What am I saying though? It's been a while since I have had a HTC device besides my sister's media-only EVO running CM7.
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I'd think you should be able to HTCdev unlock the bootloader and do what I did on my old EVO 3D which was to flash the boot.img separately through fastboot. What am I saying though? It's been a while since I have had a HTC device besides my sister's media-only EVO running CM7.
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My Adaway works again now...when you haven't seen an AD in an app in years they are HUGELY annoying....
and I was able to move my app data from my DNA to the M8 from MyBackup Pro..so there are some huge perks with this root.
And conversely being able to back up APK + DATA and your sense home screen layouts will come in handy when the inevitable S-OFF comes and we need to wipe our devices