how long before someone figures out how to root this phone? I can't buy it unless it's rooted. thanks!
youphone said:
how long before someone figures out how to root this phone? I can't buy it unless it's rooted. thanks!
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I think the real question is how long before someone finds a software exploit that allows S-Off.
I honestly think we have a long, long wait, if we ever see it.
Just my opinion.
Mike02z said:
I think the real question is how long before someone finds a software exploit that allows S-Off.
I honestly think we have a long, long wait, if we ever see it.
Just my opinion.
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I think I read somewhere that it will be nearly impossible to root this phone....
GPE or developer's edition isn't for Verizon, so I guess this means no HTC One M8 for me.
It's never nearly impossible to root
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Who knows. Silly question.
Hopefully someone will
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Im pretty content with stock ATM. Actually enjoying blinkfeed now and sense 6 ain't too shabby. That being said I'd love a good rom like viper.
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Im pretty content with stock ATM. Actually enjoying blinkfeed now and sense 6 ain't too shabby. That being said I'd love a good rom like viper.
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I sent the Viper team a System dump the day of release. Once we have a method of unlock, I doubt Verizon support will be far behind. (And I'll be beta testing it...)
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I'm kind of wondering how long it will take and if it will get done? I'm coming from the Note3, which had terrible developer support because of the boot loader, and I don't want the same thing to happen here. I paid full retail, but I'm thinking of returning;
I feel like two days in if we don't have root yet, this thing is going to be tough to crack.
Every other phone I had, had root pretty much in the first day.
I'm not sure what to do.
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PhilPan said:
I'm kind of wondering how long it will take and if it will get done? I'm coming from the Note3, which had terrible developer support because of the boot loader, and I don't want the same thing to happen here. I paid full retail, but I'm thinking of returning;
I feel like two days in if we don't have root yet, this thing is going to be tough to crack.
Every other phone I had, had root pretty much in the first day.
I'm not sure what to do.
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Are you kidding? Two days for a phone chipset that had like 10 iterations of security? I will bet that no one will get a root exploit unless it comes in the form of s-off because its silly to have root without s-off on HTC phones. Beups,jcase or whoever is working on the phone likely have root exploits already (and they always save one or two for a rainy day) and are not going to release it on it's own. Be patient, stop asking for ETAs.
How is root only different on HTC devices vs other OEMs?
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Crooke356 said:
How is root only different on HTC devices vs other OEMs?
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I'd like to be know too. Coming from Samsung Note2
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Androider4Life said:
I'd like to be know too. Coming from Samsung Note2
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Well for one root only won't allow us an insecure kernel to be flashed. That means /system write protection will still be in place.
Unlock allows you to flash custom recovery and kernels.
S-off let's you do all (even firmware downgrades)
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dottat said:
Well for one root only won't allow us an insecure kernel to be flashed. That means /system write protection will still be in place.
Unlock allows you to flash custom recovery and kernels.
S-off let's you do all (even firmware downgrades)
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So then what is "root only" able to do? Especially the type we know have available that only roots after a minute after a reboot so that first minute on reboot you are not rooted. Makes me think rooted apps/tweaks won't work right since after boot they can't go into effect since root hasn't kicked in yet???
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So then what is "root only" able to do? Especially the type we know have available that only roots after a minute after a reboot so that first minute on reboot you are not rooted. Makes me think rooted apps/tweaks won't work right since after boot they can't go into effect since root hasn't kicked in yet???
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A lot won't work right. Write protection will revert most changes back after a reboot. Root can be effective for some changes that don't need to persist a reboot. Just all depends on what you use root for. Non-system app data back-up/restore is a good example.
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A lot won't work right. Write protection will revert most changes back after a reboot. Root can be effective for some changes that don't need to persist a reboot. Just all depends on what you use root for. Non-system app data back-up/restore is a good example.
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So basically anything that needs root at startup won't work. So basically this method of root is only good to maybe copy internal files to external sd card bypassing that kit Kat crap?
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So basically anything that needs root at startup won't work. So basically this method of root is only good to maybe copy internal files to external sd card bypassing that kit Kat crap?
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Until we figure out a method to disable write protection that's pretty much gonna be it. Write protection on this phone is just as much a pain in the ass as it was on the one and one max.
It will happen though. That's the only thing we know for certain.
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Until we figure out a method to disable write protection that's pretty much gonna be it. Write protection on this phone is just as much a pain in the ass as it was on the one and one max.
It will happen though. That's the only thing we know for certain.
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Ok. Thank you for explaining. I was always spoiled before and HTC devices I had were simple s-Off or everything but s-Off so could still do just about anything. Just gotta be patient but honestly surprised how fast we got this temp root only already! In sure the development will start kicking in.
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Ok. Thank you for explaining. I was always spoiled before and HTC devices I had were simple s-Off or everything but s-Off so could still do just about anything. Just gotta be patient but honestly surprised how fast we got this temp root only already! In sure the development will start kicking in.
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The biggest hurdle for us is the fact we cannot even use HTC dev to boot loader unlock. That's why we now have to wait to get a working s-off method. Its only a matter of time.
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I'd think you should be able to HTCdev unlock the bootloader and do what I did on my old EVO 3D which was to flash the boot.img separately through fastboot. What am I saying though? It's been a while since I have had a HTC device besides my sister's media-only EVO running CM7.
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I'd think you should be able to HTCdev unlock the bootloader and do what I did on my old EVO 3D which was to flash the boot.img separately through fastboot. What am I saying though? It's been a while since I have had a HTC device besides my sister's media-only EVO running CM7.
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My Adaway works again now...when you haven't seen an AD in an app in years they are HUGELY annoying....
and I was able to move my app data from my DNA to the M8 from MyBackup Pro..so there are some huge perks with this root.
And conversely being able to back up APK + DATA and your sense home screen layouts will come in handy when the inevitable S-OFF comes and we need to wipe our devices
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Hello friends.
I just bought this phone about 10 minutes ago, coming over from Evo 4G. I understand why everyone would want to root that phone (bloatware), but since there isn't bloatware on this phone, should I root it?
Basically, do the negatives outweigh the positives of rooting. If not, I'll do it.
Thanks!
No.
This phone has no bloat and you have access to all hardware. Stock firmware does have issues but it is overall a good experience and will give you access to your apps/phone/text which is the purpose of the device.
Gain root access to other phones like Evo 4G for purpose of removing bloat or the Nexus One to be able to utilize the trackball to wake.
I would just root it now, pretty sure all the rooting methods wipe your phone so if you change your mind you will lose everything. Actually voodoo color is a good reason to root
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Unlocking the bootloader is what wipes all user data so you should do that now.
Of course once bootloader is unlocked then rooting is just a couple if command lines away....
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I just got one myself. Reading up now on how to get root.
So if I root now, I will lose all my game saves for the games I've been playing? Anyway of backing those up? And some of the Apps will get redownloaded after I sign into my Google account right?
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The apps yes the saved data no. Not sure of anyother way to root less backup. Maybe coping your android folder to your desktop
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SComp23 said:
Hello friends.
I just bought this phone about 10 minutes ago, coming over from Evo 4G. I understand why everyone would want to root that phone (bloatware), but since there isn't bloatware on this phone, should I root it?
Basically, do the negatives outweigh the positives of rooting. If not, I'll do it.
Thanks!
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Root for overclock, voodoo sound and color, backup and most important, smoothness!
But you will lost your warranty
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window7 said:
But you will lost your warranty
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But you can re-lock the boot loader on the nexus S so it's relatively simple to unroot/return it to stock if you need a warranty repair or want to return it.
Backup is the best reason to root, though if I didn't **** with my phone so much I probably wouldn't need a backup.
what's voodoo??
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But you can re-lock the boot loader on the nexus S so it's relatively simple to unroot/return it to stock if you need a warranty repair or want to return it.
Backup is the best reason to root, though if I didn't **** with my phone so much I probably wouldn't need a backup.
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If Samsung wants to be picky on you they can read out files showing how many times teh bootloader was locked/unlocked.
I'm bored, so I'm going to root it. What is the best, most user friendly (bug free) ROM for a first time rooter?
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I'm bored, so I'm going to root it. What is the best, most user friendly (bug free) ROM for a first time rooter?
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Stock Android ROM, as rooting is not related to flashing ROMs.
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Stock Android ROM, as rooting is not related to flashing ROMs.
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My fault. I want to unlock the bootloader and flash a ROM.
It seems AT&T is pushing out an OTA version 2.20 that is rumored to close all the loopholes we've used to unlock and root the One X.
If you have NOT rooted and unlocked your bootloader and you want to do so don't accept the update.
Wait until someone has gotten a hold of this version and picked it apart before installing it.
Keep Calm and Carry On.
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If you have NOT rooted and unlocked your bootloader and you want to do so don't accept the update.
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Even if you are rooted and unlocked BL, don't accept the OTA, unless you are brave and feel like being the guinea pig (I guess somebody has to be). The install may not work, or it may wipe out root, and the existing root methods may have been plugged up. OTA Rootkeeper might work. It did for the last OTA, but there is no guarantee that it will work this time. Somebody will probably post this as a recovery flashable zip in pre-rooted form. So be patient, unless you feel like experimenting, and living with the consequences.
Thanks for the public service announcement, as I'm sure people will start asking whether its safe to install the OTA.
I figured people who rooted would know this but thank you for adding it.
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I figured people who rooted would know this but thank you for adding it.
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It never fails to surprise me how may people who are rooted try to install an OTA.
Bu-bu-but I want the update NOW. Can I plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz install it? I know you said its not safe, but is it safe?
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It never fails to surprise me how may people who are rooted try to install an OTA.
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Or how many people unroot just so they can get an OTA that will provide very little added performance if any. People are sooooo quick to accept OTAs when they have no clue what they are for. I can understand wanting to accept an OTA for a major OS update like ICS to JB (ok that was a lie, I still have no clue why people would rather accept an OTA than just flash a rooted ROM) but to give up root for a simple MR is just asinine.
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Metalhead it's part of the changing face of XDA I'm afraid. the D is secondary in a lot of members minds.
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Metalhead it's part of the changing face of XDA I'm afraid. the D is secondary in a lot of members minds.
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Yep. This place is turning into a general Android forum. All the "I'm not really into rooting" posts crack me up.
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It needs to be taught that people need to wait for the devs to take the ota's and root them
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It needs to be taught that people need to wait for the devs to take the ota's
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Yup.
I'm actually excited about the OTA, looking forward to another challenge
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I'm actually excited about the OTA, looking forward to another challenge
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yeah but you're old school.
(and a little weird)
got replacement, has 1.85 firm, but everytime i run the root script, it says new at&t software update??? im assuming its not gonna let me root!!!
Something like this should go without saying. Any xda member that's foolhardy enough to download an ota without knowing the consequences, probably doesn't belong here in the first place.
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got replacement, has 1.85 firm, but everytime i run the root script, it says new at&t software update??? im assuming its not gonna let me root!!!
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Oooh maybe not.
Pull the sim and disconnect WiFi, might work /shrug
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Oooh maybe not.
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Now that I'm thinking about it, this is a pretty effective method to block and patch our root exploit
And I'm glad I did it last night
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Interesting that this wasn't leaked, and this is the first news we got of this new version. AT&T must be upgrading its internal security.
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Interesting that this wasn't leaked, and this is the first news we got of this new version. AT&T must be upgrading its internal security.
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yeah there's NOTHING anywhere else about this.
I'm glad I'm rooted
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Pull the sim and disconnect WiFi, might work /shrug
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If I'm not mistaken, the exploit uses the AT&T update server to trick the phone into download mode, so I don't think this could work.
Hi guys! I am switching from a GSIII to this on Tuesday and I know a bit about rooting but I wanted to know what is the main differences between being rooted and having a unlocked bootloader?
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Hi guys! I am switching from a GSIII to this on Tuesday and I know a bit about rooting but I wanted to know what is the main differences between being rooted and having a unlocked bootloader?
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Being rooted allows you to unlock the bootloader which allows all the magic that happens here. If you are getting a hox now make sure it does not come with 4.0.4 installed as there is no root for that yet.
I don't think you have to be rooted to flash a recovery. You just have to unlock your bootloader and flash a recovery via adb command.
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I don't think you have to be rooted to flash a recovery. You just have to unlock your bootloader and flash a recovery via adb command.
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On AT&T you need to be rooted to unlock the bootloader, as the bootloader unlock is not officially available. But on Rogers, you can unlock the bootloader and install a custom recovery, AFAIK.
In short, root just gives superuser privileges. So you have access to system files, can apply mods and apps that require root (but not flashed in recovery) etc.
Bootloader unlock is required if you want to flash custom ROMs, radios, kernels, custom recovery, etc.
So I am on ATT and I got the one x shipped to me and it will be here tomorrow so there will be no rooting for me until someone finds an exploit I am thinking
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So I am on ATT and I got the one x shipped to me and it will be here tomorrow so there will be no rooting for me until someone finds an exploit I am thinking
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I'm afraid so.
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I'm afraid so.
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Is there a root method or a way of at least removing bloat to where maybe I can't have a unlocked bootloader but I would at least like it debloated... has anyone found a way for that yet? lol
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Is there a root method or a way of at least removing bloat to where maybe I can't have a unlocked bootloader but I would at least like it debloated... has anyone found a way for that yet? lol
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That's a negative grasshopper.
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That's a negative grasshopper.
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Well, I am willing to donate to whoever finds one!
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Well, I am willing to donate to whoever finds one!
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You should politely ask Gunny to make a bounty thread. He absolutely loves them.
Smh
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Is there a root method or a way of at least removing bloat to where maybe I can't have a unlocked bootloader but I would at least like it debloated... has anyone found a way for that yet? lol
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You can reduce the majority of the bloat in an unrooted stock phone running an ICS firmware by "disabling" the unneeded bloatware system apps by going into the stock app manager, then selecting to view all apps, then pressing on each system bloat app you don't need, and hitting "disable" in the app info dialog that opens up. Disabling the system apps makes them invisible to the system and the app drawer. Thus, they can't be run by you or the system until you enable them again. Thus, they don't bog down your phone and trash up your app drawer.
This works for the majority of the bloat that comes with AT&T. I did this while I was waiting for the famous 1.85 root method. It made my wait considerably more bearable!
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Is there software out there that companies can run and audit there phones to tell if users have rooted their phones?
Run synergy and not sweat it. TrevE **** blocked all that ****.
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Is there software out there that companies can run and audit there phones to tell if users have rooted their phones?
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Actually no, HTC will know if you unlock by unlocking your bootloader on their site
I think Verizon knows what firmware your running when you update but I don't think it should even be a problem.
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Actually no, HTC will know if you unlock by unlocking your bootloader on their site
I think Verizon knows what firmware your running when you update but I don't think it should even be a problem.
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HTC don't know that you are unlocked. Only that you requested the unlock token. Verizon does check the software but whether they know you are rooted I don't know. There is root detect in the software itself that is why Trev disabled it. What happens I don't know. Have never done an OTA on any device since I got my first Tbolt and rooted it right away. No need to take OTA. We usually get the RUU before it is ever released and the devs deem it safe or make it safe within 24 hours.
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HTC don't know that you are unlocked. Only that you requested the unlock token. Verizon does check the software but whether they know you are rooted I don't know. There is root detect in the software itself that is why Trev disabled it. What happens I don't know. Have never done an OTA on any device since I got my first Tbolt and rooted it right away. No need to take OTA. We usually get the RUU before it is ever released and the devs deem it safe or make it safe within 24 hours.
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That's what I meant by unlocking using the site
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Just curious as I don't want to root if they have a way of knowing you compromised the phone.
On the razr there is a boot menu they can go into to see if the device has ever been rooted, is currently rooted, or has been rooted but not at the moment. Ive never heard of anything on the GS3 like this
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So what is the Site? Thanks for the help
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I honestly dont think the carriers go through evey phone like some people would think they do. Well idk about vzw but when i was with tmobile for 6 years ive sent back about 10 phones some i left rooted and nevwr got hit with a out of warranty charge.
But you never know better safe then sorry i guess
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Hey guys, I just rooted my HTC one m8 on 4.4.4 and I cannot get the supersu binaries to update. Am I still able to unlock with sunshine without updating the binaries? I do have root, root checker verifies that I do.
kench33 said:
Hey guys, I just rooted my HTC one m8 on 4.4.4 and I cannot get the supersu binaries to update. Am I still able to unlock with sunshine without updating the binaries? I do have root, root checker verifies that I do.
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@jcase actually states this very thing in his post. Run sunshine already and get it over with!
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dottat said:
@jcase actually states this very thing in his post. Run sunshine already and get it over with!
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Ah, that makes sense. I guess I didn't see that part. I saw that droidmodderx was able to update his binaries. I am just hesitant to purchase sunshine because I was planning on getting the note 4 soon, but seeing as how expensive it is I will probably wait.
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Ah, that makes sense. I guess I didn't see that part. I saw that droidmodderx was able to update his binaries. I am just hesitant to purchase sunshine because I was planning on getting the note 4 soon, but seeing as how expensive it is I will probably wait.
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If you are on the fence consider this to be an investment. Sell your phone s-off and on a stock Rom on swappa.com. most people will consider that $25 you paid in their price. Most people meaning XdA users.
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If you are on the fence consider this to be an investment. Sell your phone s-off and on a stock Rom on swappa.com. most people will consider that $25 you paid in their price. Most people meaning XdA users.
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I didn't even consider that, thanks! I will do it once I get the chance after I am done with finals lol. Any rom you recommend?
kench33 said:
I didn't even consider that, thanks! I will do it once I get the chance after I am done with finals lol. Any rom you recommend?
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Personally I run stock with xposed framework + modules.
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Personally I run stock with xposed framework + modules.
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Are you able to use regular battery saver, and not extreme?
kench33 said:
Are you able to use regular battery saver, and not extreme?
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Once rooted, regular power saver mode Is easily unlocked on stock Rom with sqlite editor and a very simple database edit.