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do you think the nexus s is a good phone for someone that isn't interested in rooting?
Yes its light weight and no bloat.
now I have a question, we have a Q&A board
BrianDigital said:
Yes its light weight and no bloat.
now I have a question, we have a Q&A board
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You know what is funny? Over time I found some Google apps to become the new "bloatware", I can't imagine me being on any Android driven phone except the NxS atm
Best answer I can give is that it won't likely disappoint you. The only source of disappointment would probably the battery life (which also depends on your expectations).
From what I read in the reviews, HTC *might* be more suitable for you (as long as you don't mind lower camera quality). Sense UI gives more usability out of the box, and their battery life's supposedly longer.
But, like I said, NS's a good phone. Excellent phone, really.
I have the Nexus S, unrooted and all stock, and I love it so much I often pick it up just to play with the UI or admire its curved shape
wow i must be blind :/ didnt see the q&a section.
yea, i really do love htc's phones for their sense ui (especially desire s but it isnt available in canada) but the one i would probably get (incredible s) supposedly has bad battery life :/
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also, can you zoom in the camera app?
No zoom on the camera not like the pictures look good when zoomed up anywhos
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are there any apps that can allow you to zoom??
I believe Vignette or Camera 360 in the market would allow digital zoom.
As for battery life, in reality, all Android phones are usually in the same ballpark for battery life. For whatever reason, the attitude against Android is just it has bad battery life in general (I guess when you compare it to the iPhone 4) so picking and choosing a phone based on battery life is way too subjective.
You could look at screen size (the bigger the screen, the more power needed) but I don't see anyone claiming the 4.3 inch phones are worse in battery life than the 4 inch phones.
Again, you will find "this phone has bad battery life" threads for all phones you research. The Captivate had tons, Nexus S has a bunch and even the SGS II has some. It all depends on what you do with the phone.
rentaric said:
You know what is funny? Over time I found some Google apps to become the new "bloatware", I can't imagine me being on any Android driven phone except the NxS atm
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I'm noticing something amusing. I switched from the stock weather widget to beautiful widgets and noticed my phone is running much smoother overall. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but it certainly feels like it.
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Nope, no can digital zoom But you can always crop and enlarge the pic later. That's all what digital zoom does..
Enhanced said:
As for battery life, in reality, all Android phones are usually in the same ballpark for battery life. For whatever reason, the attitude against Android is just it has bad battery life in general (I guess when you compare it to the iPhone 4) so picking and choosing a phone based on battery life is way too subjective.
You could look at screen size (the bigger the screen, the more power needed) but I don't see anyone claiming the 4.3 inch phones are worse in battery life than the 4 inch phones.
Again, you will find "this phone has bad battery life" threads for all phones you research. The Captivate had tons, Nexus S has a bunch and even the SGS II has some. It all depends on what you do with the phone.
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I agree with your statements, with a few addendums:
After reading several discussions thread about customROM, I get the impression that, well, even the software can affect battery life significantly. Some worse, some better.
And we're still talking about the same phone. Just different ROMs. Different baseband, kernel, and what-have-yous.
When we factor in hardware differences, e.g. the battery (1500mAh battery vs. 1250mAh vs. 1900mAh), GPU (PowerVR vs. Adreno), the type of radio module used, etc. I can confidently say that there *can* be quite significant differences in battery life between models.
But I guess we can still call them as being in the same "ballpark"
And yes, the usage matters, and battery life comparison should be done with the same usage
wait so that means nexus s is NOT capable of digital zoom no matter the camera app? ik you can crop, but it's pretty inconvenient.... no digital zoom + no 720p video may be a deal breaker..
isdfoa said:
wait so that means nexus s is NOT capable of digital zoom no matter the camera app? ik you can crop, but it's pretty inconvenient.... no digital zoom + no 720p video may be a deal breaker..
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a) digital zoom = bull**** on phone cams
b) NxS non-720p vids > most other phone's 720p vids (actually I could only think of 3-4 cams better then the NxS right now)
it'd still be nice to have digital zoom when you need it, even if it lowers quality.
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a) digital zoom = bull**** on phone cams
b) NxS non-720p vids > most other phone's 720p vids (actually I could only think of 3-4 cams better then the NxS right now)
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I remember putting a hd video shot from evo on my big screen.... Yeah not very good
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isdfoa said:
it'd still be nice to have digital zoom when you need it, even if it lowers quality.
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Maybe this sounds a bit apologetic, but you can always crop and enlarge it later
Haha? Nexus S is all about rooting! If you dun root your phone, dun get Android, get Nokia phone. Good camera.
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I liked the Charge, but having non stop issues day after day. Extremely poor call quality when the phone gets below 20%, M$ Exchange email doesnt work, calendar wont sync, data always disconnects, etc.
Made about a dozen calls and finally got a hold of a regional manager that is willing to help me out, or so he says. Told me he would be able to get me an early upgrade price so trying to decide what route to go.
Prior to being an android user, I had the iPhone from the first version and dropped the iPhone 4 back in July for the 4G device. Saved me some money from having to buy a 4G hotspot and a phone, plus iPhone was limited and couldn't handle a few things that I needed. Seems to be better, but its still a 3G phone.
New Nexus looks pretty good, but heard some things not so good about them. Is it better to wait as it seems new phones come out every week, or better to pull the trigger on the Nexus now?
bossku69 said:
I liked the Charge, but having non stop issues day after day. Extremely poor call quality when the phone gets below 20%, M$ Exchange email doesnt work, calendar wont sync, data always disconnects, etc.
Made about a dozen calls and finally got a hold of a regional manager that is willing to help me out, or so he says. Told me he would be able to get me an early upgrade price so trying to decide what route to go.
Prior to being an android user, I had the iPhone from the first version and dropped the iPhone 4 back in July for the 4G device. Saved me some money from having to buy a 4G hotspot and a phone, plus iPhone was limited and couldn't handle a few things that I needed. Seems to be better, but its still a 3G phone.
New Nexus looks pretty good, but heard some things not so good about them. Is it better to wait as it seems new phones come out every week, or better to pull the trigger on the Nexus now?
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TBH if it were me I'd just wait for the next big smartphone of Q1/Q2, they'll be as good or better spec-wise than the Nexus however you'll be missing out on the pure AOSP experience and timely updates... its not that important to me so I'll be doing this, I'm gonna probably pick up the next HTC superphone (a little tired of samsung now though I love their hardware)
I have the Galaxy Nexus right now and its the best phone I've ever had. Sure they're some minor problems with it like with any new device. But nothing at all that makes it unusable or annoying.
I wouldn't wait for phones that come out at CES 2012 because they won't be available until Q2 at least. Plus all the Quad Core phones will all have problems working the kinks out since they'll be brand new. Much like the Thunderbolt, Charge, Revolution, and the (first) Bionic.
So my advice is to go with the Nexus. Better experience, faster updates, best phone I ever came across. Makes the iPhone 4S look puny and not fun at all IMO of course
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If you have to change now, go for the Nexus. If you can wait some months, then wait.
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Best phone for flashers = Galaxy Nexus
Best phone for stock users = Droid Razr
its simple really...
blarrick said:
Best phone for flashers = Galaxy Nexus
Best phone for stock users = Droid Razr
its simple really...
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Why do you say the RAZR is better than the Rezound for stock users out of curiosity? I could have had either as my displacement and went with the Rezound because it appeared to be the better phone overall based on what I read.
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The Nexus is still better for stock users because it's the only one with ICS. The OS is far more intuitive and coherent than Gingerbread, and that's exactly what matters the most for those users.
The only pluses in general for the Razr versus the Nexus are its thinness (and it's not even a huge difference compared to the Nexus, it's much more noticeable compared to the chunktastic Rezound) and less-plasticky/more durable build (kevlar back, splash-proof coating, not made by Samsung).
With what I know from reading -- I'd go for the Nexus. ICS cannot be ignored, and couple that with the amazing AMOLED screens Samsung uses and you have a winner.
I believe ALL the phones have some quirks, you just have to make sure you can live with them.
The Charge was not considered a successful phone, it was the baddest mama jama when I bought mine in early June and though its not perfect, it got a breath of life when GB was released for it. Fixed most of my issues!
anoninja118 said:
TBH if it were me I'd just wait for the next big smartphone of Q1/Q2, they'll be as good or better spec-wise than the Nexus however you'll be missing out on the pure AOSP experience and timely updates... its not that important to me so I'll be doing this, I'm gonna probably pick up the next HTC superphone (a little tired of samsung now though I love their hardware)
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Hes actually right. If youre getting a new phone just wait for the next big phone. We have Tegra 3 coming to smartphones in Q1 and just look at the 12mp camera/quad-core phones running ICS coming just in the first 3 months of this year. Wait it out bro.
Nexus is the best phone out there right now. As for the issues you're having, if you want full Exchange support, get a Windows Phone, otherwise get Touchdown as that is the only way to have reliable Exchange support on Android. Really though, I think you'll find problems with your next phone too just based on the OP.
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I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).
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I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).
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beats audio is garbage unless you like rap/hip-hop (thankfully the beats 'technology' doesn't kick in unless you plug in those craptastic beats headphones), the Rezound *might* have the Nexus beat in processor and camera but Nexus wins IMO screen-wise, its also unbloated/unskinned, will have first dibs on updates and with the zero lag shutter... meh its a toss-up I think, both are solid phones but I'd kinda lean toward the Nexus
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I completely disagree with the majority here. The HTC Rezound is by far the superior phone. Its 720p IPS LCD screen is *true* HD, not Pentile, and current OLED tech suffers from color inaccuracy and oversaturation. The subpixel count on the GNex is about equal to most 800x480 phones.
The Rezound's Adreno 220 GPU is also superior. The Gnex's GPU is just the Charge's PowerVR SGX 540 with 50% overclock. A nice comparison here: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...htc-flyer-htc-desire-hd-and-samsung-galaxy-s/
The Rezound's camera is also better, and it has "Beats Audio" (not sure if that's any good though).
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This post sounds like a complete HTC fanboy post. Some of those tests with the GPU were barely better than the original SGX540 GPU. It's also closer to a 100% overclock (200MHz in the Charge v. 384MHz in the Nexus), so I would think those tests would turn out vastly different if run with the Nexus GPU at the same resolutions.
Screen is debatable, and if you looked at the Nexus screen, you couldn't tell if it was pentile or not. Outdoor visibility has ALWAYS been the best on the SAMOLED screens though, and power consumption can be better with them as well.
Camera, I'd have to see to believe as I have NEVER heard of HTC using good quality image sensors. Just because it's 8MP compared to the Nexus's 5MP doesn't mean it's better. That's like saying a 16MP point-and-shoot takes better pictures than a 10MP DSLR. It can if the conditions are right, but usually, it won't.
Beats audio is also a complete sham as the audio processor in the Charge is better. You'll likely get worse audio from Beats than you would from the Nexus. Then lets not forget software upgrades and the lack of add-on apps, can you guess which one wins here? And you can probably forget about AOSP on the Rezound anytime soon as it took several months for Layher to get it on the TB, and I don't see anyone having the dedication to do that again.
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This post sounds like a complete HTC fanboy post. Some of those tests with the GPU were barely better than the original SGX540 GPU. It's also closer to a 100% overclock (200MHz in the Charge v. 384MHz in the Nexus), so I would think those tests would turn out vastly different if run with the Nexus GPU at the same resolutions.
Screen is debatable, and if you looked at the Nexus screen, you couldn't tell if it was pentile or not. Outdoor visibility has ALWAYS been the best on the SAMOLED screens though, and power consumption can be better with them as well.
Camera, I'd have to see to believe as I have NEVER heard of HTC using good quality image sensors. Just because it's 8MP compared to the Nexus's 5MP doesn't mean it's better. That's like saying a 16MP point-and-shoot takes better pictures than a 10MP DSLR. It can if the conditions are right, but usually, it won't.
Beats audio is also a complete sham as the audio processor in the Charge is better. You'll likely get worse audio from Beats than you would from the Nexus. Then lets not forget software upgrades and the lack of add-on apps, can you guess which one wins here? And you can probably forget about AOSP on the Rezound anytime soon as it took several months for Layher to get it on the TB, and I don't see anyone having the dedication to do that again.
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Also it took the rezound like 2 months just to receive root so their Dev community is probably pretty bare
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Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.
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Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.
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Hooray for an ICS ROM that is very buggy, I know I'll use that all the time Can't wait to get a Sense'd version with as many useless apps as Verizon and jam into it. Glad to see you ignored the AOSP comment completely as well.
The screen statement is somewhat untrue as well. The issue with battery life comes when you're using bright colors or video. If you use black, you get excellent battery life as black pixels use 0 power for AMOLED screens, how much power does a black pixel use on an LCD panel? Inaccurate colors are one thing, as that depends on several factors, but it can be corrected, as can the over-saturation. Are there issues with the technology? Sure, but I'll take a SAMOLED screen over an LCD panel every day. Oh, and how about contrast ratio comparison between the two? How about comparing the thickness of a full screen assembly (touch sensor, backlight, and display) between AMOLED and tradition LCD? There are reasons that it's being used, despite how bad you think the technology is.
No MicroSD slot, now we're just nit-picking. Is it a bad thing? Kinda. However, how often do people change them? I only ever changed it out to get a faster card. The only thing I miss about having one is that I could just copy over my backed up data easily to the Nexus. Other than that, it's pointless and I don't see anyone having issues with the lack of a microSD card.
Oh, you also forgot to comment about the GPU tests and the camera. Is the Rezound a bad phone? No, but if you want long term support, I don't think you're going to beat the Nexus as it will see several updates in the future, and even if Google stops updating it, the community will keep it going. Plus, any issues you see can be fixed by the community before Google gets around to it, so you can see fixes faster if there are problems. The Rezound? It will probably see an OTA to ICS, then probably two more OTAs for bug fixes, after that, probably not much. Good luck getting AOSP on it, as that will take a long time, if ever; just see the Thunderbolt as an example. Community driven fixes? When's the last time HTC took bug fix advice from the public if it wasn't a security issue?
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Just checked the Rezound forum. Apparently they already have an ICS ROM thanks to an ICS leak for the "Sensation XL", whatever that is.
As for AMOLED, unfortunately it's not mature enough yet and drains more battery than LCD as well as having inaccurate colors and oversaturation. And with a 720p pentile you won't notice the pixels but I don't think the sharpness would be as good as a true 720p RGB screen (I could be wrong, but I personally wouldn't bother taking the chance).
As for Beats Audio, I kinda figured you wouldn't be able to get hi-fi music quality without a proprietary port.
Also one other thing that (for me) is a real deal-breaker is lack of microSD slot on the GNexus. I have no idea what Google was thinking there.
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Haha Rezound. You can keep that fat, whored-out (Beats scam, bloated up, Sense..), cheesy red colored locked-down brick. HTC is really becoming like Motorola by locking down their devices which creates delays and frustration for people like us. It will receive an update sure.. once. Until they release their new Super Amazing Incredible Orgasmic Deluxe 4G.
Also I hate the volume and power buttons on that phone, they are pretty much flush and have no tactile feel (mushy), don't even start on the horrendous battery life of HTC phones.
Sure the GNEX might not be ideal in every way, but neither is the Rezound. Just because you prefer it doesn't mean everyone else does too
I'd take SAMOLED Plus over LCD, but my personal experience with Pentile (browsing at Verizon store) has been pretty negative.
My point with the SD card was for the sake of extra storage. This is one of the most irritating aspects of the iPhone. These days there are 64 GB microSDXC cards out. The 32 GB card price keeps falling.
I'd wait too. I would want something with dev support like the Galaxy Nexus, but at least 8 MP rear-facing camera and hopefully >2 MP front-facing.
Go with the Nexus if you need a phone now....I have it and I love it. There are almost too many developers on that phone, which is a nice change coming from the charge.
The thing that annoys me most about the Rezound is the power button is on the wrong side of the phone. I use either my thumb or pointer finger of my right hand to push the power button. It's pretty awkward doing that on the rezound. Maybe it's just me lol
As title, the specs are quite good and the handset looks pretty nice at least to me. Gonna definitely try to sell my O3D this month and pony up for SIII. How about you guys?
Android 4.0
TouchWiz
4.8-inch
720 x 1280
Gorilla Glass 2
1.4GHz Quad-Core
HD Super AMOLED
1GB RAM
16/32/64GB + microSD
1.9-megapixel
8-megapixel AF + HDR
HSPA+21 / LTE (Regions)
802.11 b/g/n with Channel Bonding, HT40
4.0 Low-energy
GPS, GLONASS, Accelerometer, RGB Light, Digital Compass, Proximity Sensor, Gyroscope, Barometer
Additional specs include NFC, wireless charging capability.
Tons of software features/enhancements/innovations.
Some new innovations and one copy of siri
One: Smart Stay. It takes advantage of the phone's front-facing camera to recognize when you're looking at the screen. Even if you don't touch the display for an extended period of time, the GS3 won't go into standby so long as it senses you're still looking at it.
Two: S Voice sounds like Samsung's answer to Siri, and while it's hard to deny the inspiration from Cupertino, Samsung's working to make S Voice its own. Some of the features the company demonstrated today include bringing up the phone's camera and waking the GS3 from standby with your voice. The software will allow you to define five custom voice-actuated commands.
Three: Samsung's Direct Call is a smart use of your phone's sensors to offer some context-sensitive gesture control. If you're reading a message from someone and raise the phone up to your ear, software will make the connection that you're trying to call this person, and automatically pull up their contact info and start dialing.
Four: Samsung mentioned an interesting multi-tasking system that will be present on the GS3. Called PopUp Play, you'll be able to collapse a video you're watching down into a floating window, which you can continue to view in the foreground as you pull up new apps to work with beneath it.
Five: Finally, the Galaxy S III will introduce some enhanced camera functionality to Samsung smartphones. Zero shutter lag should mean fewer missed shots, and a burst mode captures up to twenty sequential images; the phone will even attempt to automatically pick the best pic for you. The new Social Tag feature will let the camera tag faces of people pictured in a shot, while sending them all their own copies.
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As title, the specs are quite good and the handset looks pretty nice at least to me. Gonna definitely try to sell my O3D this month and pony up for SIII. How about you guys?
Android 4.0
TouchWiz
4.8-inch
720 x 1280
Gorilla Glass 2
1.4GHz Quad-Core
HD Super AMOLED
1GB RAM
16/32/64GB + microSD
1.9-megapixel
8-megapixel AF + HDR
HSPA+21 / LTE (Regions)
802.11 b/g/n with Channel Bonding, HT40
4.0 Low-energy
GPS, GLONASS, Accelerometer, RGB Light, Digital Compass, Proximity Sensor, Gyroscope, Barometer
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just waiting for the quad exynos' benchmarks !
sak500 said:
As title, the specs are quite good and the handset looks pretty nice at least to me. Gonna definitely try to sell my O3D this month and pony up for SIII. How about you guys?
Android 4.0
TouchWiz
4.8-inch
720 x 1280
Gorilla Glass 2
1.4GHz Quad-Core
HD Super AMOLED
1GB RAM
16/32/64GB + microSD
1.9-megapixel
8-megapixel AF + HDR
HSPA+21 / LTE (Regions)
802.11 b/g/n with Channel Bonding, HT40
4.0 Low-energy
GPS, GLONASS, Accelerometer, RGB Light, Digital Compass, Proximity Sensor, Gyroscope, Barometer
Additional specs include NFC, wireless charging capability.
Tons of software features/enhancements/innovations.
Some new innovations and one copy of siri
One: Smart Stay. It takes advantage of the phone's front-facing camera to recognize when you're looking at the screen. Even if you don't touch the display for an extended period of time, the GS3 won't go into standby so long as it senses you're still looking at it.
Two: S Voice sounds like Samsung's answer to Siri, and while it's hard to deny the inspiration from Cupertino, Samsung's working to make S Voice its own. Some of the features the company demonstrated today include bringing up the phone's camera and waking the GS3 from standby with your voice. The software will allow you to define five custom voice-actuated commands.
Three: Samsung's Direct Call is a smart use of your phone's sensors to offer some context-sensitive gesture control. If you're reading a message from someone and raise the phone up to your ear, software will make the connection that you're trying to call this person, and automatically pull up their contact info and start dialing.
Four: Samsung mentioned an interesting multi-tasking system that will be present on the GS3. Called PopUp Play, you'll be able to collapse a video you're watching down into a floating window, which you can continue to view in the foreground as you pull up new apps to work with beneath it.
Five: Finally, the Galaxy S III will introduce some enhanced camera functionality to Samsung smartphones. Zero shutter lag should mean fewer missed shots, and a burst mode captures up to twenty sequential images; the phone will even attempt to automatically pick the best pic for you. The new Social Tag feature will let the camera tag faces of people pictured in a shot, while sending them all their own copies.
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I will pre order it as soon as it arrives on my fav website phones4u lol...
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I will pre order it as soon as it arrives on my fav website phones4u lol...
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Already there http://www.phones4u.co.uk/shop/shop_contract_details.asp?ItemKey=609243
Given the huge expectations, I'm not impressed.
Hardware button? Cheap plastic? Pentile matrix screen? Really Samsung?
I much prefer the One X instead of this.
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Already there http://www.phones4u.co.uk/shop/shop_contract_details.asp?ItemKey=609243
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But But i like the sense UI..
botson71 said:
Given the huge expectations, I'm not impressed.
Hardware button? Cheap plastic? Pentile matrix screen? Really Samsung?
I much prefer the One X instead of this.
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Check some of the threads on HTC One X board.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1534#
Seems we are lucky to have only software issues with LG O3D. They seem to have tons of hardware / build quality issues going on with HTC's flagship phone.
One of the ugliest designs I've ever seen on the phone. But awesome specs. And you know damn well that this phone will have huge support.
Eh I'm a bit disappointed, plastic again ? Just swapped my SGS for O3D few days ago just because SGS was to plastic for me, same as Xperia Arc. Lets just wait and see what hardware/software issue will it have hehe
Screen looks nice ! all the rest of new features are pretty useless for me and SGS, O3D or even iPhone4 is good enough. I would like to se a business edition of some android phone with the same abilities that Sony P1i had with its software ( best smart phone ever, and believe me I had many )
Seems it's now the fastest phone beating Htc's One X
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_unpacked_2012-review-756p3.php
WOW Who cares of course except the producers, pr, mobile networks, and others who sell sell sell
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WOW Who cares of course except the producers, pr, mobile networks, and others who sell sell sell
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Clearly you care to come to this thread to post "who cares" reply.
edit: @minedsafe GOT your point now
You must have misunderstood me. Every time the new phone comes out they advertise it as the best, the only, and all that crap. What I have meant is that they are all sellers and will make you buy one, even if you don't want to. Its nice to see that this phone is SO fast, but most people will use it to watch movies, make appointments and send emails
the specs are quite impressive, but the problem is (at least for me) the size, come on 4.8 inches???
I prefer teh xperia s, even though it has no quad core processor
I'm torn between getting the Galaxy Note or waiting for the Galaxy SIII....
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1.4ghz....i was hoping 1.6+ghz but the resolution is amazing im gonna w8 and se i only got my O3D 3 months ago
EDIT:some dude on youtube with alot of expierence reckons it should be able to get overclocked at a possible 1.9ghz and tge battery it come with is 2100 mah battery but its like $800 for 16gb so its bloody expensive
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SGSIII is a great phone. I was thinking to have it but I have no budget for this expensive phone.
When I bought my O3D and O2X last month, the store have discount almost 60%, I have it both only with 500$.
superage said:
SGSIII is a great phone. I was thinking to have it but I have no budget for this expensive phone.
When I bought my O3D and O2X last month, the store have discount almost 60%, I have it both only with 500$.
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Dont worry, wait 6 months and u be able to get this quite cheap Especialy when or if they present the iphone 5 We are not to far away from that.
I like the LG because it feels like a proper phone not something you are affraid to put in to your pocket. I just had a SGS was looking at SGII and decided to go for LG.
Well i know alot of people hate LG now but i dont as i dont get lots of the bugs people complain about but i just looked up the lg optimus 4x and honestly i want it more than the sIII take a look:
http://m.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_4x_hd_p880-4563.php
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MANBEARPIG69 said:
Well i know alot of people hate LG now but i dont as i dont get lots of the bugs people complain about but i just looked up the lg optimus 4x and honestly i want it more than the sIII take a look:
http://m.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_4x_hd_p880-4563.php
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Go ahead m8, i' wouldn't touch an LG phone with a 100 foot pole after i get rid of O3D.
Hi all.
This looks like a great community and I wanted to look for your advice.
I'm a longtime iPhone user looking for a way into Android.
I wanted a cost effective, smallish, good battery, dual sim of decent quality. The 4C looks like a good choice.
I want to know how difficult it would be to flash it to run native android the same way the Nexus phones do. I don't want all the bloatware, and since I'm buying online I want a clean install. (No malware)
Is there anything you like about MIUI that I should consider keeping it?
What results should I expect? Will everything work? No dead camera or weird glitches?
Can I do the flash on my Mac?
Any recommendations on where to source my tools?
Sorry for such a basic Q, but I haven't seen it asked in this detail.
I'd like to know what I'm getting into, but definitely want to get off iOS. It's been good but I don't want to carry two phones anymore.
brndnryn said:
Hi all.
This looks like a great community and I wanted to look for your advice.
I'm a longtime iPhone user looking for a way into Android.
I wanted a cost effective, smallish, good battery, dual sim of decent quality. The 4C looks like a good choice.
I want to know how difficult it would be to flash it to run native android the same way the Nexus phones do. I don't want all the bloatware, and since I'm buying online I want a clean install. (No malware)
Is there anything you like about MIUI that I should consider keeping it?
What results should I expect? Will everything work? No dead camera or weird glitches?
Can I do the flash on my Mac?
Any recommendations on where to source my tools?
Sorry for such a basic Q, but I haven't seen it asked in this detail.
I'd like to know what I'm getting into, but definitely want to get off iOS. It's been good but I don't want to carry two phones anymore.
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The Xioami MI 4c seems like a good fit for you. My iPhone-centric friend said that my phone (the Mi4c) is the Android phone he hates the least
It is very easy to flash an AOSP based ROM (what you called "Native Android") such as CyanogenMod 13 on the Mi 4c. However, it might not be necessary as there are good debloated ROMs available based on MIUI and MIUI has a lot of nice unique features. There are instructions on how to do this on each thread, but message me if you have problems.
MIUI (and ROMs based on it) has far superior camera quality than anything else available for this phone. It also has a lot of manual features (manual focus, exposure, sharpening, saturation, focus tacking, numerous filters), though its long exposure is limited to 2 seconds and focus bracketing can't be manually adjusted. However, audio performance out of the auxiliary port is much better in AOSP based ROMs (MIUI has some audio processing that messes up the audio). Keep in mind that in general the phone feels more snappy on AOSP based ROMs, but in both cases there are very little to complain about.
My recommendation is that you try the MIUI ROM from this site (it is clean, debloated, and properly translated) for a week:
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-9-8-9.34062/
then switch to CM13 (the nexus-fy version on this site) and decide for yourself which you like better.
I didn't find any bugs in these ROMs, but you'll have to read the respective threads to see if there are problems and if they have been fixed (and how to fix them if it isn't already). Luckily it's very easy to switch ROMs if you encounter problems.
All the tools necessary can be found on this site, but you might need to install "Flashify" from the play store in order to get a custom recovery on your phone if the conventional methods fail (ADB tools).
Things to keep in mind:
- The back cover is nice to touch but scratches easily, so either get a cover or keep in mind you can replace it if you have to.
- The front glass may be vulnerable (no official protected glass is disclaimed), get a tempered glass screen protector.
- The volume and power buttons are plastic
- Battery life is decent but not great (about a days usage, 5h screen on time)
- Camera is great in medium to good light, average in low light - feel free to ask samples
- Audio is great out of the port, and good from the speaker
- Display has stellar contrast, good colour, average brightness and is a bit difficult to read under direct sunlight
- Performance is generally good (there are some hiccups), but by far the best for the price
- The 16GB model is half the price of the 32GB model($110 vs $220 ), check Kimovil to get the best deal (I've used Geekbuying reliably through the years)
- Build quality is good otherwise (barring the above issues). I've used this phone brutally without a cover and it never gave me any problems.
- If size doesn't bother you too much, the Redmi Note 3 Pro is a great alternative. It costs $150, has better performance, awesome battery life, 3GB RAM, 32GB storage and a micro-SD slots. Its cons are you lose out on the camera and audio quality, and the display's contrast isn't as good (1000:1 vs 1600:1). It also gets lots more love from Xda and already have an Android 7.0 Nougat ROM.
Probably the wrong time to buy mi4c as there are better budget phones such as the Lenovo Zuk Z2, great specs for the price. Rom development is another matter though
I got the Mi4s and I'm quite impressed of it. as Mi4s and mi4c is basically the same phone (without fingerprint, mi4s case is in higher quality) I'd recommend you the smiui rom, there you can choose what bloatware/mods you want/don't want and with viper4android the sound is very nice (like on a computer or even better). Also the camera is like in original miui (for me). I get about 1.5 days of normal usage (network always on, 2 sims, whatsapp, y music, telegram, browser, google books...) with smiui rom.
Hey guys, I just want to know your experience after using Xiaomi Poco f1 for months.... Are you guys satisfied with your phone or do you guys regret buying it?
And please rate the phone.
Yes, I'm very satisfied with the device, it surely is an upgrade from my Lenovo P2. The device is very responsive. It was the transition to Miui that kept me deciding wether I wanted it. After using Miui for 2 months now.. I definitely recommend a Xiaomi device to all my friends.
Upgraded from Galaxy S5 two months ago. Thought that the screen downgrade would bother me but it really doesn't - it's a decent screen for an LCD (and I love a very low minimal backlight level for night reading, usually for me a most useful feature of an amoled screen). Of course, it's extremely snappy and I find even the camera excellent (gcam is a big help here but even a built in app is decent). While I really like the photos, I don't care much for the video. It's detailed enough, with a good dynamic range and the EIS on 1080p is excellent but it's aggressive 'local' HDR is very apparent. It really looks bad when only a certain part of the image keeps changing in brightness while panning. The video is much better if you don't pan around. I rarely take videos so it's not much of a downside for me and maybe a gcam video has a different HDR algorithm (forgot to try it). I am not a gamer (bought a high-performance phone mostly for future-proofing and to run a Linux desktop on) so haven't really been hit that hard with a often mentioned touch responsiveness (seems perfectly OK to me). I have a custom built widget for always on homescreen notifications that I vastly prefer to tiny notification icons so the lack of the latter doesn't bother me. I actually hate notification icons as I am usually running 4-5 background services with permanent active notifications that eat up all the available space. This way I only get dismissable notifications that are actually notifications.
I can't comment on the cell signal quality as I haven't got out of a city lately and here the signal is decent everywhere. Band coverage shouldn't be a problem in Europe, I think. All in all, I haven't regretted the purchase and don't underestimate the 'smug factor' of owning a phone that's a much smarter purchase than all the fancy branded ones.
My dream came true with this legendary phone.... I used to think that when I will use flagship processor.... But my budget not that much high to purchase flagship mobiles ... But after seeing this mobile with high end processor .. I felt that I too have a legendary mobile in my hands... I don't see any brand before purchase ... Just I saw the snapdragon 845 processor and I bought this phone and I felt happy ... This phone is awesome and Google camera is working like a charm ... And I am using pixel experience ROM ... I love that ROM ....
POCO (LOVE )
srabon debnath said:
Hey guys, I just want to know your experience after using Xiaomi Poco f1 for months.... Are you guys satisfied with your phone or do you guys regret buying it?
And please rate the phone.
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the camera warps when you try to stabilize a video because no ois, further note all phone cameras suck at low light video. Google camera by far enhances this phones zoom and low light capabilities greatly.
Remember guys this phone is full of compromises
Of course there are better phones with better screens if your expecting a phone with an amazing Samsung display or flashy looks then best to buy a samsung phone. The only positive side the phone is the copper heatsink and 845 processor. The screens display is praised as not complete garbage.
If your a casual phone user it's better to go with a used s8 because this phone is only for pubg
Pros
Xiaomis support of modding is insane even providing warranty when rooting.
Lenovo and Huawei are terrible in comparison you would be lucky to even have 1 custom kernel or rom on those phones.
I was iphone user ever since 3gs, switched from iphone 7 to pocof1 last year and fell in love immediately. First vacation with my wife took maaaany pics, incomparable to her s7 edge or my iphone 7, so much better. Paid 300€ for 128gb version, unbeatable. Countless custom roms, updates coming fast, of course there r better phones, but they cost 700€ or more, so no, thank you, no more "flagships" for me. Been using poco for 4 months now, no regrets not for a second. AND...i dont need a f..... screenprotector or cover or any other protecting sht like before, not scared of getting scratches, and i dont have any yet, still as new. By far the best phone i ever had
Thanks for the replies guys.