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The internal memory - how much is actually available?

I know that they are supposed to come with 4 gigs of memory. My phone its is telling me have have under a gig. Now, I haven't had out long and I only have a few apps. Could myes rooted rom take up all the available space? Or is there's another source? Thanks!
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rubyv said:
I know that they are supposed to come with 4 gigs of memory. My phone its is telling me have have under a gig. Now, I haven't had out long and I only have a few apps. Could myes rooted rom take up all the available space? Or is there's another source? Thanks!
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I think you're confusing internal vs SD card storage. My understanding is it's 1GB internal, and they ship with 8GB SD card (originally they were going to ship with 4GB SD so that's why there are some sites with bad specs out there).
I have a ton of apps installed and I still have half my total internal available.

I was told that the phone had four gbs internal in addition to the eight gig card.
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rubyv said:
I was told that the phone had four gbs internal in addition to the eight gig card.
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I believe you were misinformed. And I stand corrected, it's got 768mb internal, and 8GB flash storage.

Actually it does have 4gb of internal memory, but you can only use slightly over 1gb. This was the same issue with the G2.
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And 768 is the RAM
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droe411 said:
And 768 is the RAM
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I'm not sure this is accurate. What's on the 4gb ROM? Makes no sense to have 4GB of read-only memory on any device.
If the OS\support is generally under 300mb, and is housed within the 768mb, what takes up the 4GB ROM? That wouldn't make any sense. I know there was some bad info that went out when the phone first released.... I think this may have stemmed from that.

I know ot doesnt make sense bit thats what it is. Liok at all stat sheets for.the phone. There is a pile of memory that is rwad only holding a backup of some kind.
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The OS itself is stored in the 4 gig internal SD, and uses RAM out of the 768mb. Even though it has 4 gb of internal storage, the way its formatted only let's us use 2 gigs. its formatted for speed and stability rather than size, therefore we lose half of it, then the OS takes up almost a gig, so now were down to 1 gig of usable storage on the internal card, then we have the 8 gb external.

And I believe the 768 of RAM is for running processes, for multi-tasking.
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di11igaf said:
The OS itself is stored in the 4 gig internal SD, and uses RAM out of the 768mb. Even though it has 4 gb of internal storage, the way its formatted only let's us use 2 gigs. its formatted for speed and stability rather than size, therefore we lose half of it, then the OS takes up almost a gig, so now were down to 1 gig of usable storage on the internal card, then we have the 8 gb external.
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Sounds like the same engineers who designed the AT&T network had their hands involved in this phone's design process.
Let's put a 20 gallon gas tank on a car, but weld a divider down the middle so someone can only put 10 gallons of gas in it. LOL

There was the same issue withe the G2 when it came out. It confused the heck out of a lot of them.
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I'm still noy buyin it that there's a mystery 4GB in the phone.
Looking at the root system it's about 500mb, of which 300mb is free (for tasking), and then I have about 250mb of apps installed, which adds up too close to 768 for coincidence in my mind.
If there were a 4gb ROM floating around in there, it'd be absolutely useless. Obviously the OS isn't installed on it, since It's ROM (read ONLY), and apps don't use it as storage (read ONLY), and it's not used for multitasking space (read ONLY), so there's no logical explanation for it.
MY theory is originally the phone was going to ship with 4GB memory card, and they changed it to 8GB at the last minute.... and that was an artifact that got jumbled with the old specs.... because GSM Arena and AT&T both show 768RAM plus 8GB SD Card only.

bella92108 said:
I'm still noy buyin it that there's a mystery 4GB in the phone.
Looking at the root system it's about 500mb, of which 300mb is free (for tasking), and then I have about 250mb of apps installed, which adds up too close to 768 for coincidence in my mind.
If there were a 4gb ROM floating around in there, it'd be absolutely useless. Obviously the OS isn't installed on it, since It's ROM (read ONLY), and apps don't use it as storage (read ONLY), and it's not used for multitasking space (read ONLY), so there's no logical explanation for it.
MY theory is originally the phone was going to ship with 4GB memory card, and they changed it to 8GB at the last minute.... and that was an artifact that got jumbled with the old specs.... because GSM Arena and AT&T both show 768RAM plus 8GB SD Card only.
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GSMARENA Inspire 4G
gsmarena also states 4GB INTERNAL STORAGE, not ROM specifically.
From their site...
Internal 4 GB storage, 768 MB RAM
Card slot microSD, up to 32GB, 8GB included, buy memory

There is a thread in this forum with this issue questioned, and some guy emailed HTC. The answer we are telling you is the same they tell every one. This is not AT&T HTC phones do this, look at the G2 the Thunderbolt. It isn't a lie they are telling every one. That is what they use the memory for, some sort of back up(I don't know exactly what it is backing up). HTC does this with all the newer phones.....

Here is a good answer for this guys, we lose half the available space for speed and stability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12111805&postcount=11

footbal9584 said:
Here is a good answer for this guys, we lose half the available space for speed and stability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12111805&postcount=11
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I call shenanigans haha

Already many threads on the topic. Yes there is technically 4GB internal but only 1GB is user accessible. The other 3GB is reserved for the OS, ect...

Twenty4 said:
Already many threads on the topic. Yes there is technically 4GB internal but only 1GB is user accessible. The other 3GB is reserved for the OS, ect...
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If I can't use it or see it, it doesn't exist. ;-)

bella92108 said:
If I can't use it or see it, it doesn't exist. ;-)
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I agree, I just pretend it only came with one gig and honestly, with 93 apps (50 on Sdcard), I still have 650 mb left so it doesn't bother me too much.

[Q] SD card boundary alignment of partitions?

When I installed and partitioned an SSD on my PC I needed to make some calculations to make sure the participation fell on "boundaries" to get the highest level of performance from my SSD. Do I need to do the same with a microSD card?
I guess my question might really be "how much like a SSD is an external SD card?"
I have a 32 GB (actually 29.8 GiB) external micro SD that I want to partition and format. I am considering following sizes and formats: Ext4 4GiB; FAT32 25.5 GiB; SWAP remaining (about .3) GiB.
I know in the past it was felt that the EXT partition need to be only 1 or 2 GiB in size, but with a more powerful device and larger apps appearing, I would rather have an extra couple of GiBs than have to repartition in the near future.
Are the partition sizes I am allocating reasonable?

Joe-retired said:
When I installed and partitioned an SSD on my PC I needed to make some calculations to make sure the participation fell on "boundaries" to get the highest level of performance from my SSD. Do I need to do the same with a microSD card?
I guess my question might really be "how much like a SSD is an external SD card?"
I have a 32 GB (actually 29.8 GiB) external micro SD that I want to partition and format. I am considering following sizes and formats: Ext4 4GiB; FAT32 25.5 GiB; SWAP remaining (about .3) GiB.
I know in the past it was felt that the EXT partition need to be only 1 or 2 GiB in size, but with a more powerful device and larger apps appearing, I would rather have an extra couple of GiBs than have to repartition in the near future.
Are the partition sizes I am allocating reasonable?
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No need to partition the card for use in the g2x. 1 we have no rom's that even support apps to ext/sd. 2 it has 1.5 gig for apps, 5.5 gig internal sd..
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squish099 said:
No need to partition the card for use in the g2x. 1 we have no rom's that even support apps to ext/sd. 2 it has 1.5 gig for apps, 5.5 gig internal sd..
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Thank you for the information.
So my "google" phone does not support an official google app (i.e. Apps2SD) which is supported by froyo. Also, I thought Cyanogen supported Apps2sd, I have not flashed a CM rom so I have no first hand experience.
Is this lack of support just another "bug" awaiting a fix? I would think that a phone whose design begs to have gaming apps running, would have had this feature working.

It supports the official apps to SD.. the ext partition method came from g1 development because of lack of app space.. basically its not required with the g2x w/1.5 gigs of app storage and the official apps to SD method, but I'm pretty sure on the stock rom it will put your apps on the internal SD as opposed to your micro SD card (I hope this is understandable)
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Internal memory 9gb

Hey guys, my brand new out of the box htc one x shows 9gb free storage.., do you guys have the same?
i understand with the software comes out to be about 13gb but 9gb? is there something wrong with mine?

dorksturhh said:
Hey guys, my brand new out of the box htc one x shows 9gb free storage.., do you guys have the same?
i understand with the software comes out to be about 13gb but 9gb? is there something wrong with mine?
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Normal.

stnguyen09 said:
Normal.
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thanks, but now i feel ripped off!
first i saw 32gb ads, then expects atleast 16gb, found out to be 9gb..

dorksturhh said:
thanks, but now i feel ripped off!
first i saw 32gb ads, then expects atleast 16gb, found out to be 9gb..
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It's 16gb total on the att version, international is 32. I believe it's about 2gb for apps and 5 for os and system junk that is allocated.

dorksturhh said:
thanks, but now i feel ripped off!
first i saw 32gb ads, then expects atleast 16gb, found out to be 9gb..
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32 is for the international HOX. You still have 16gb of internal memory, but obviously that's not all accessible, which should've been obvious from the get-go. The system takes up space and I believe 2gb is reserved for apps and there are other partitions too that take up space.

The One X does seem to allocate a lot more storage to the OS, Apps, and System than previous HTC Android phones.
My HOX shows 2.21 GB total internal storage and 9.93 GB phone storage. That adds up to 12.14 GB. That means the OS, Apps, and System take up almost 4 GB. My older HTC Inspire 4G used about half of that.
A 16 GB iPhone or iPad has about 14 GB useable. It really sounds like they have allocated some extra storage for future expansion on some of the partitions.

Titanium Backup shows:
System ROM: 1.05
Internal: 2.37
SD Card: 10.6
I'm not sure where the remaining 2GB are. Does Android have a swap partition?

The system ROM is in EEPROM storage and doesn't use the flash memory.

16GB or 32 GB

In two minds whether to buy the 16 or 32 GB version. I know I can add a big SD card to the 16GB but how much space does the stock rom take up?
And where in the UK can I get the 32 GB?
Thanks

Obviously you should get the largest capacity you can afford /find. I got mine From best buy 16 DB is all they had in stock
wish it were 64 DB.or had apps to SD will have to use directly bind im guessing. not understanding those scripts in dev area some things need to be on main storage.
Would like a method of being able to select what to move

erica_renee said:
Obviously you should get the largest capacity you can afford /find. I got mine From best buy 16 DB is all they had in stock
wish it were 64 DB.or had apps to SD will have to use directly bind im guessing. not understanding those scripts in dev area some things need to be on main storage.
Would like a method of being able to select what to move
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Get the 32 GB if you can afford it. Otherwise, the 16GB is adequate with an external SD.
Of course this varies for user to user.

blud7 said:
Get the 32 GB if you can afford it. Otherwise, the 16GB is adequate with an external SD.
Of course this varies for user to user.
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I'd do what he suggested
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[Q)] About Swap on Class10 card

Hello my question is simple, everybody knows about fits low ram issue.
If i buy class 10 sd card (ex: 16gb), can i give 1 gb ram to phone with swap ?
Will it effect to performance ? System cpu speed enough but ram really low
Thx for answers...

amedra said:
Hello my question is simple, everybody knows about fits low ram issue.
If i buy class 10 sd card (ex: 16gb), can i give 1 gb ram to phone with swap ?
Will it effect to performance ? System cpu speed enough but ram really low
Thx for answers...
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You could use SD card with swap to extend the ram but it going to be dead within 2 weeks because of the exessive Reads/Writes
I did used for a couple of days a 10 class Sandisk of 8GB with swap enabled and did not impact so much on performance.

Today bought http://www.digitalversus.com/memory-card/lexar-micro-sdhc-32-gb-class-10-uhs-1-600x-p16172/test.html (not from amazon but same card), 512mb ext4 and 256mb for swap with CWM use... (I will use high values later )
Results are okay, everything faster than i imagine. A lot of cards have 2 year guarantee, like this one. If your card dead in 2 week like k3eNaNz said, you can change easily in my opinion ( so use local market). And developer said 7 years usage time...
However i'm so happy , i'll add more virtual ram to my fit without speed loss
1gb ram on galaxy fit not bad

amedra said:
Today bought http://www.digitalversus.com/memory-card/lexar-micro-sdhc-32-gb-class-10-uhs-1-600x-p16172/test.html (not from amazon but same card), 512mb ext4 and 256mb for swap with CWM use... (I will use high values later )
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However i'm so happy , i'll add more virtual ram to my fit without speed loss
1gb ram on galaxy fit not bad
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Can I do that with an 8gb SD!?
Aaaand, where's a noob guide on how to do it!?
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johnny208 said:
Can I do that with an 8gb SD!?
Aaaand, where's a noob guide on how to do it!?
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Yes a lot of class10 - 8gb microsd card around. Search in xda " clockworkmode swap" you can find many topic about this.
But remember, you should need class 10 or above sd card, ext4 and swap supported kernel too. ( so a lot of kernel and rom support these functions)

amedra said:
Yes a lot of class10 - 8gb microsd card around. Search in xda " clockworkmode swap" you can find many topic about this.
But remember, you should need class 10 or above sd card, ext4 and swap supported kernel too. ( so a lot of kernel and rom support these functions)
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Just checked my SD... It's class 6
Time for a new one...
Thanks!
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I also use 32GB class 10 sdcard. But I'll never try swapping. Coz even if I do have backup on my laptop but windows 7 disonnects the sdcard during copy/paste via card reader. So in case my sdcard is dead by applying swap & I buy new one...windows wont allow me copy files back... & using FTP to transfer files is very tiring process with possibility of errors...But it's my opinion guys.

Swapping not like real ram, like i said virtual ram. But All of you be can sure, virtual ram really boost the (our) phones x10 times.
Example: closed ext swap last night (from clock work mode) and installed "ram manager pro." And added 1gb (1024mb) (also will add 2048mb) swap ram to my fit. I did because of clcokworkmode give only 256mb swap ram.
Result: All apk's first open really open like vanilla (default). But after second one, you can see improvement. Speed comes with smile. And best thing for you, ram optimitizion scripts and task killers not necessary. Because swap file directly answer your response with 30mb/ps(+) read rate.
Recommend: Try with 8gb class 10 sd cards, they're cheap nowadays, you won't regret
Tip: Galaxy fit support only (maximum) 32gb sd cards.

I have micro sd card Lexar class 10 it support or not
if you know Can I do ram swap for my galaxy fit?

ahmetakin said:
I have micro sd card Lexar class 10 it support or not
if you know Can I do ram swap for my galaxy fit?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smartprojects.RAMOptimization
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=lv.n3o.swapper2
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.azasoft.free.swapper
These programs enough for you, pick one.