http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-office-coming-to-android-and-apple-devices-in-early-2013-7000005563/
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http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-office-coming-to-android-and-apple-devices-in-early-2013-7000005563/
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Not sure what part you think is bad news... we already knew it wouldn't be out until next year. It will just be sometime after march. I expected maybe waiting until Q3 of next year... ya know, to give MS an edge on it's new tabs
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Not sure what part you think is bad news... we already knew it wouldn't be out until next year. It will just be sometime after march. I expected maybe waiting until Q3 of next year... ya know, to give MS an edge on it's new tabs
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I think if you read it carefully, MS is not going to share MS office to third party like Android or IOS, it only makes available to Windows OS for mobile.
buhohitr said:
I think if you read it carefully, MS is not going to share MS office to third party like Android or IOS, it only makes available to Windows OS for mobile.
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I think if you read it carefully, it says exactly the opposite of that. The same as every other story on the topic for months. The only news is the possible delay.
Now, according to the Czech tech news site, IHNED, Microsoft product manager Petr Bobek has said that Microsoft is planning to release native iOS and Android versions of Office 2013 in the first quarter of 2013
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Officially, the only thing Microsoft had to say at first was that "As we shared previously, Office Mobile will work across Windows Phones, Android phones and iOS, and we have nothing additional to announce today about retail availability of the new Office."
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No matter when Microsoft delivers the Android and iOS goods, Microsoft's support of any version of Office on a non-Windows smartphone or tablet strikes me as an odd move. In a shareholder letter, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer said that Microsoft is shifting its model to focus on devices and services. This is a radical and dangerous shift for a company that's always made it money from software licensing. And, now, instead of using Office as a crowbar to pry users from iPads and Android tablets to its Surface tablets, Microsoft is going to offer Office 2013 on its device rivals? Odd. Very odd.
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I wish they'd done it in time to give us office 2010. I fear mobile 2013 won't play nice with desktop 2010, and I suspect I won't want desktop 2013.
Oh well, what's another new year without getting screwed by MS?
I can wait!
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I think if you read it carefully, it says exactly the opposite of that. The same as every other story on the topic for months. The only news is the possible delay.
I wish they'd done it in time to give us office 2010. I fear mobile 2013 won't play nice with desktop 2010, and I suspect I won't want desktop 2013.
Oh well, what's another new year without getting screwed by MS?
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Oh well, I think I would fail if I'm an English teacher :crying:
dgjl said:
http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-office-coming-to-android-and-apple-devices-in-early-2013-7000005563/
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Any Microsoft app on an Android tablet will just hog up all the resources and drag the heck out of it. Why does anyone even need another document app anyway? Excel and Word. Plenty of programs can deal.
Kingsoft Office is pretty much MS Office by another company, anyway.
fortunz said:
I wish they'd done it in time to give us office 2010. I fear mobile 2013 won't play nice with desktop 2010, and I suspect I won't want desktop 2013.
Oh well, what's another new year without getting screwed by MS?
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I'm already sure I don't want desktop 2013. It'll probably be designed for W8, on which you can't play any pre-8 games. Since I won't be taking W8 because of that, 2013 will be useless.
And knowing Micro$oft, they'll make another new 'standard' extension that only works in their newest product. (.docx is still driving me insane...) Combine that with the majority of people who are too stupid to select .doc in the save menu and you're pretty much forced to buy the new M$ Office, because loading it in ex. Openoffice doesn't work because the layout is scrambled.
jordanmw said:
Not sure what part you think is bad news... we already knew it wouldn't be out until next year. It will just be sometime after march. I expected maybe waiting until Q3 of next year... ya know, to give MS an edge on it's new tabs
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What I thought was bad was 1) the delay; 2) the strong complications from the article that it's not sound business for MS to release an app that would kill at a stroke the reason for most people and businesses to buy a Surface - at least not until that product had established itself or failed.
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What I thought was bad was 1) the delay; 2) the strong complications from the article that it's not sound business for MS to release an app that would kill at a stroke the reason for most people and businesses to buy a Surface - at least not until that product had established itself or failed.
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I wouldn't take that last part too seriously. MS has already lost a particular percentage of the tablet market and they know it. Over years of not acknowledging that, AND of even viewing their own mobile unit as competition for their desktop unit (which is the reason that, for example, MS OneNote on winmo 6.x SUCKED so epically -- it was intentional), they've lost serious mobile branding ground that could have been theirs if MS Office was ubiquitous. Indeed, if MS Office had been everywhere while their mobile division burned, their climb back to mobile relevance wouldn't be as steep.
People would still associate them with quality at that level and they could build on that. Instead, recent customers of MS Mobile, like myself, view them as hacks and wouldn't buy their crap now even if it were undeniably the best stuff ever because of the long-standing negative association. The cost of not having MS Office Mobile on major platforms is not just lost license fees, it's billions in brand equity that they're having to spend in ad dollars without much to show for it so far.
The guy at zdnet is still stuck in the paradigm that got MS mobile where it is now.
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2007 is at an end. WM7 will be upon us soon. Which handsets seem most likely to be able to run the OS? Id hate to but a brand new PDA now and be green with envy a few months later,hoping the PPC will be popular enough for somebody to cook a WM7 ROM for it. The Imate Ultimate range looks promising,but Im an HTC enthusiast.
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2007 is at an end. WM7 will be upon us soon.
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Where the hell did you get that info from? WM6 has just been released... I hope for an wm7, but to be realistic: I don't think a new ppc os will be introduced until 2009 or later...
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Where the hell did you get that info from? WM6 has just been released... I hope for an wm7, but to be realistic: I don't think a new ppc os will be introduced until 2009 or later...
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Codenamed 'Photon'. Here you go, get you some knowledge:
www.engadget.com/2005/12/08/photon-the-next-version-of-windows-mobile/
www.mobilegadgetnews.com/index.php?showtopic=11890
www.microsoft-watch.com/content/desktop_mobile/microsoft_shares_updated_windows_mobile_timeline.html
Envisaged for H2 2008, a new handset now means youre only up to date for eight months.Or not?
Vukile said:
Codenamed 'Photon'. Here you go, get you some knowledge:
www.engadget.com/2005/12/08/photon-the-next-version-of-windows-mobile/
www.mobilegadgetnews.com/index.php?showtopic=11890
www.microsoft-watch.com/content/desktop_mobile/microsoft_shares_updated_windows_mobile_timeline.html
Envisaged for H2 2008, a new handset now means youre only up to date for eight months.Or not?
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Did you even care to look at the dates on the link you posted???
Dec 2005, APR 2006, And APR 2006
you seem to have been hiding under a rock so here is the latest news.
photon has been delayed, Q1/Q2 2008 expect to see microsoft launch WM 6.1
with photon launch supposedly somewhere in 2009
fallenczar said:
Did you even care to look at the dates on the link you posted???
Dec 2005, APR 2006, And APR 2006
you seem to have been hiding under a rock so here is the latest news.
photon has been delayed, Q1/Q2 2008 expect to see microsoft launch WM 6.1
with photon launch supposedly somewhere in 2009
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Ha ha. It must have been a big rock.Doesnt sound too encouraging to know that the only thing to look forward to is a glorified service pack.But like they said in those posts, in order not to curb sales theyd rather keep quiet.Graphics havent been exploited by MS as much as they should have,probably the next PDAs will be handheld XBoxes,like the PSP. It makes business sense.
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Ha ha. It must have been a big rock.Doesnt sound too encouraging to know that the only thing to look forward to is a glorified service pack.But like they said in those posts, in order not to curb sales theyd rather keep quiet.Graphics havent been exploited by MS as much as they should have,probably the next PDAs will be handheld XBoxes,like the PSP. It makes business sense.
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...that's not the point of a WM PDA. WM's main market has always been business communications, and that's probably where it'll remain.
Not to say that you might not see a graphics-oriented PDA anytime in the future; take a look at the O2 XDA Flame for example- but the mainstream bunch of devices will probably remain business-oriented.
The Kaiser has the potential to do all that I would like to see already.Since Tomb Raider was released,I thought PDAs were off to the next level of gaming. I think business functionality has been laid to rest to a large extent,with a few networking bugs to be sorted. If MS had to build up that side of things they would massacre the competition.
I saw a news item and screenshot of Windows Mobile 7 UI somewhere recently as Microsoft execs are now testing it on there mobile phones. I cannot remember where though....will need to see if I saved the articles photos to my PC at home...hmmm. Anyhow the UI is white grey with a Vista style button in the top centre and photographic icons for the today task buttons. It did not much appeal to me over Windows Mobile 5 / 6 - although 5 seems to be the fastest for me even with customisations. Its slated for release next year.
I also saw it somewhere but I forgot the most recent posting. All Im saying is if somebody signs a gag-order the must be some serious money on the line.Maybe they can run the Vista on the Shift on a PDA?
could we up the screenshots here as still cannot find them on my PC.
Source: msmobiles.com
In February 2008, during Mobile World Congress 2008 (a global event for professionals, not consumers), Microsoft will unveil publicly Windows Mobile 6.1 that is a minor upgrade to current Windows Mobile 6.
However the really big deal will be Windows Mobile 7. The first phones with Windows Mobile 7 will go on sale in 2009 but already now you can learn (almost) everything about it (including hint that it will support multi-touch!)
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http://microsoft.blognewschannel.co...bile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/
Nice find dude
edit: multi-touch confirmed!
Thanx! The Battle goes on for Microsoft and Apple. In 2009 Multitouch is a "Must"
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Source: msmobiles.com
In February 2008, during Mobile World Congress 2008 (a global event for professionals, not consumers), Microsoft will unveil publicly Windows Mobile 6.1 that is a minor upgrade to current Windows Mobile 6.
However the really big deal will be Windows Mobile 7. The first phones with Windows Mobile 7 will go on sale in 2009 but already now you can learn (almost) everything about it (including hint that it will support multi-touch!)
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http://microsoft.blognewschannel.co...bile-7-to-focus-on-touch-and-motion-gestures/
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1st..Link is not working, can't connect to the link.
2nd..Support multi-touch. ipod/iphone(Apple) registered the multi-touch trademark,therefore, impossible for anyone to use this technology.
Link is working, but it's slow now..
Taninpv said:
1st..Link is not working, can't connect to the link.
2nd..Support multi-touch. ipod/iphone(Apple) registered the multi-touch trademark,therefore, impossible for anyone to use this technology.
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Microsoft was investing in multitouch technology since years ago
Taninpv said:
1st..Link is not working, can't connect to the link.
2nd..Support multi-touch. ipod/iphone(Apple) registered the multi-touch trademark,therefore, impossible for anyone to use this technology.
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Multi-touch is just a name. The technology has been around a long time, and MS even has an implementation in Microsoft Surface.
http://www.microsoft.com/surface/
Surur
http://www.sendspace.com/file/imgb4m
http://download.yousendit.com/FC5662C918CDB87E
Link to mht file from above
I heard rumours(read some article on the net) about multitouch technology that it was a company in Finland who first came up with it, but after 6 months it just was developing "dead spots" on the screen, so they dropped the project. And now Apple "bought" it from them... I say once again Rumours.?
Thats it. Im keeping my WM5 device until further notice. I can survive off extracted WM6 apps until then....
this is from Apple insider about "dead spots" http://www.appleinsider.com/article...essing_dead_spots_on_iphone_touchscreens.html
!!!!
Wonder what it'll run on. Oh well, my Wizard probably won't run it (but here's to hoping it will)
How nice of the blog to spill Microsoft's new and secret ideas for all the competitors out there
Anyone want to bet that NONE of our devices will support it? I mean, if our devices supported it, we wouldn't have to go out and buy all new ones, and MS wouldn't make any money off the licensing fees from OEMs like HTC. No, making Windows Mobile 7 backwards compatible with phones like the Tilt would just make too much sense and be far too consumer friendly.
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Anyone want to bet that NONE of our devices will support it? I mean, if our devices supported it, we wouldn't have to go out and buy all new ones, and MS wouldn't make any money off the licensing fees from OEMs like HTC. No, making Windows Mobile 7 backwards compatible with phones like the Tilt would just make too much sense and be far too consumer friendly.
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Now.. to be realistic, out of all the phones that are being sold with windows mobile how many do you think end up reflashed? I am willing to bet that it is quite a small percentage in the end. Most people don't want to get down and dirty with their phones, especially when they've already paid £400-£500 for it.
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Anyone want to bet that NONE of our devices will support it? I mean, if our devices supported it, we wouldn't have to go out and buy all new ones, and MS wouldn't make any money off the licensing fees from OEMs like HTC. No, making Windows Mobile 7 backwards compatible with phones like the Tilt would just make too much sense and be far too consumer friendly.
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WM is one of the few platforms where they would even consider giving updates. Even Symbian and Palm don't. Even on a computer they don't give Vista because we have XP.
As long as it runs compatible hardware, I wouldn't be surprised if develops here find a way to get it working. There's also always test builds on older devices. And it's still a long time before this is going to be released. It doesn't exactly make sense to purposely produce versions for hardware that could be old.
In short, we'll just have to see. There's no point making that speculation.
From the look of it (especially the fonts that have too much quality), the images are just mockups.
And given the Vista example, I bet it will look a lot worse when shipped than what we are seeing in these concepts.
Still, it's nice to see them and them evaluate how much work it takes to implement something that takes just a few days to design in Photoshop.
Can the Betas be far behind ?
Yeah, let's bring the battle to the fruitsuckers!
Some of the stuff looks similar to Pointui.
http://vhxn.wordpress.com/2008/12/14/microsoft-releases-seadragon-for-iphone-before-windows-mobile/
Microsoft.
With that we can get an idea of how much microsoft cares about it`s platform
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With that we can get an idea of how much microsoft cares about it`s platform
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Yep, it's something we've all sort of known for a long time though, windows mobile development is being left almost entirely in the hands of third parties.
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Yep, it's something we've all sort of known for a long time though, windows mobile development is being left almost entirely in the hands of third parties.
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Which is a good thing!
Imagine for a second that Microsoft would deal with its own platform as Apple does with theirs! I appreciate that 3rd party developers can freely program and develop and offer their software without having to wait until the os developer or manufacturer decides to make it available to their users through their store platform.
Nether-the-less, you guys really get the wrong ideas about Microsoft and their marketing strategies. MS releasing something for Apple devices before even released for Windows devices does not mean that they don't care about their own platform but rather that they are quite business smart! Apple might not have had interest in this if it would have been released already for WM; in addition, MS gets a food in the door step of Apple ... just widen your imagination and you will realize that the reasons for this are obviously not the one's suggested in the above posts!
the iphone is eating into the marketshare of everybody, not only WM... probably WM is hurth the least, look at nokia's differences since the release of the iphone.
i think posting this is a bit counter productive
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i think posting this is a bit counter productive
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I'm not sure how productive your post was.
But it's a simple fact and it's worth discussing I think.
Ok guys i think i will sell my hermes then im not staying with ms no more if he is going to give iphone apps before his own platform whats up with this ****hole of a company.
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I'm not sure how productive your post was.
But it's a simple fact and it's worth discussing I think.
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it wasnt productive but i think posting it in that manner is like wearing the end is nigh sandwich boards
im pee'd off too but i think we should always se ms winmo as the best
jayjay8585 said:
it wasnt productive but i think posting it in that manner is like wearing the end is nigh sandwich boards
im pee'd off too but i think we should always se ms winmo as the best
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that's just being a fanboy. if they can't be bothered making a respectable product why should we not move to apple, android, symbian or whatever? These are just tools and MS has counted on it's market share carrying it for too long, not just with mobile os's.
im not saying we cant move i just think posting threads sataing winmo is dying is bit of a drag on a forum that do a lot for this os
but still i reckon it is a good talking point titles daunting thats all
its seems a bit more impartial now
did you see the article on apple being ahead in sales of all winmo phones that mega insane thats not long after i heard iphone users are a niche market
Topic modified to be less daunting.
Mark Twain said "The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated". The lesson was success at the top can be isolating. MS was the only game in town for a long time, they are a huge company, and they seem to have a difficult time reacting swiftly. With that being said, I wouldn't count them out just yet. They've had Office for Mac for ages, but nobody said it must mean they're abandoning the Windows platform. They've created an app (and probably more to come) for the iPhone because it makes good business sense. The iPhone is a hot product -- why not jump on? With that being said, both my wife and son have iPhones and I think it's just a toy -- aimed at the masses who want to play rather than work.
I've had a Fuze since November 10 (moved from a Moto Q), added a significant number of tweaks (most from here) and am absolutely satisfied with this device. It does exactly what I want it to do and allows me to travel without lugging a laptop. So the bottom line, at least for me, is that I wouldn't start stocking up on beer for WinMo's wake just yet -- or at any time in the future.
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Mark Twain said "The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated". The lesson was success at the top can be isolating. MS was the only game in town for a long time, they are a huge company, and they seem to have a difficult time reacting swiftly. With that being said, I wouldn't count them out just yet. They've had Office for Mac for ages, but nobody said it must mean they're abandoning the Windows platform. They've created an app (and probably more to come) for the iPhone because it makes good business sense. The iPhone is a hot product -- why not jump on? With that being said, both my wife and son have iPhones and I think it's just a toy -- aimed at the masses who want to play rather than work.
I've had a Fuze since November 10 (moved from a Moto Q), added a significant number of tweaks (most from here) and am absolutely satisfied with this device. It does exactly what I want it to do and allows me to travel without lugging a laptop. So the bottom line, at least for me, is that I wouldn't start stocking up on beer for WinMo's wake just yet -- or at any time in the future.
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well said i also believe that the iphone is a toy and not for professional use
emesbe said:
Mark Twain said "The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated". The lesson was success at the top can be isolating. MS was the only game in town for a long time, they are a huge company, and they seem to have a difficult time reacting swiftly. With that being said, I wouldn't count them out just yet. They've had Office for Mac for ages, but nobody said it must mean they're abandoning the Windows platform. They've created an app (and probably more to come) for the iPhone because it makes good business sense. The iPhone is a hot product -- why not jump on? With that being said, both my wife and son have iPhones and I think it's just a toy -- aimed at the masses who want to play rather than work.
I've had a Fuze since November 10 (moved from a Moto Q), added a significant number of tweaks (most from here) and am absolutely satisfied with this device. It does exactly what I want it to do and allows me to travel without lugging a laptop. So the bottom line, at least for me, is that I wouldn't start stocking up on beer for WinMo's wake just yet -- or at any time in the future.
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Microsoft had Office for Mac before they had Office for Windows..
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Microsoft had Office for Mac before they had Office for Windows..
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I think they do this to prove they're not an evil empire hellbent at becoming a monopoly. But all us MS users hate it...and should.
For the hell of it, that Seadragon app is some cool stuff. Can't wait to see how it looks on my Tilt.
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I think they do this to prove they're not an evil empire hellbent at becoming a monopoly. But all us MS users hate it...and should.
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So when the hell do we get the Apple goodies for WM?
According to it seems, certain to char them with some sponsors of Microsoft like HTC or NVIDIA are developing that is not expected any greater update of the Windows Mobile system until the Movable World-wide Congress of next year...
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http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translat...hasta-el-ano-2011&lp=es_en&btnTrUrl=Translate
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Delete if already posted please
Well it's been delayed so many times...who knows
I've read today that it would be available for hd2 in November 2010
Yeah, I read that and as you say who knows
Anyway, here´s the info I got today, let´s see what really happens...
Cheers galaxys
My thoughts to this are that Microsoft knows that this is there last chance so if everything isn't up to speed, they will keep delaying. However this strategy will eventually back fire as avid WM fans are becoming impatience.
Absolutely disgraceful if true. There's no reason why a massive company like Microsoft should not be able to put out a high quality mobile OS platform by 2010 considering all the time they have had and the reported size of the development team.
Yeah this is getting crazy. Hurry up MWC...
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I'm beyond impatience went to the Nexus Android last week man is that thing fast
i expect to see it next month at mwc, but if for some reason it doesn't show up this year..i'd say goodbye to windows mobile as a viable mobile os
yea its time to switch to android . win mobile is taking WAYYYY to long.
been running android on my vogue since june i find it blows win mo away! @galaxies: i will be getting mine when it comes to verizon this spring!
jamezelle said:
yea its time to switch to android . win mobile is taking WAYYYY to long.
been running android on my vogue since june i find it blows win mo away! @galaxies: i will be getting mine when it comes to verizon this spring!
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Yeah, I feel you. I've been running Android on my Rhodium for a few weeks, and although it's a pretty early port and many features don't work properly yet, I still prefer it to Windows Mobile's slow release schedule and sub-par performance. I used to be a die-hard WM fan, but M$ has really let their users down, and let their phone empire collapse around them. I'll highly consider buying an Android handset when my contract expires ~2 years
interesting article about WM 7....
http://www.cio.com/article/516563/W...ent_the_Mobile_Market_?page=1&taxonomyId=3061
Don't know if anyone's heard but apparently Microsoft is taking full advantage of webOS's fall. They are offer development free tools, phones and etc. Wow they waste no time.
Here's a link to the article.
http://www.gsmarena.com/microsoft_o...nd_training_to_webos_developers-news-3026.php
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Don't know if anyone's heard but apparently Microsoft is taking full advantage of webOS's fall. They are offer development free tools, phones and etc. Wow they waste no time.
Here's a link to the article.
http://www.gsmarena.com/microsoft_o...nd_training_to_webos_developers-news-3026.php
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Tell me about it. I do respect them on what their doing. Great devs lose their jobs, so they're up for grabs.
Microsofts making all the right moves.
Exactly, playing it smart.
Agree, smart move, but Android won't lose market share easily..
Only a plus to Microsoft.
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Agree, smart move, but Android won't lose market share easily..
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Oh not at all. Microsoft has a long way to go to catch up with the Android and Apple.
Honestly I feel the only reason Microsoft is down in the smartphone game is because
1- They don't advertise as much
2- They don't have a radically new WP7 that draws users to the phone
3- If they bundled their phones with computer sales, it would allow customers to easily jump into the os.
If they saw those three points and worked on them, it would send them up there with the big boys.
Problem is every court hates ms for integrating software into windows; you think giving away a basic phone with every dell will ease those tensions? Unfortunately, ms can't get away with the crap apple does with every pc, ipod, iphone and ipad.
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Problem is every court hates ms for integrating software into windows; you think giving away a basic phone with every dell will ease those tensions? Unfortunately, ms can't get away with the crap apple does with every pc, ipod, iphone and ipad.
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That's understandable. Still, it then goes back to advertising. It seems as if MS wants people to magically know about their devices.
I've only seen a commercial for the Surround about 5 times and that was it.
I'd be so pissed if I was a webOS developer. Excited to see more/better apps for Windows Phone.
but with this microsoft did a step forward, it could help to get some DEVs but i dont think that it will get better then GOOGLE OS
I had a palm treo as my first smart phone and it ran windows. it was terrible.. I'm sure they have gotten better, but that phone gave me a sour opinion on windows phones.. not so good then probably not so good now.. but it does make me curious to playing with a windows phone next time im at a best buy or other retail store with one on display..
Windows phones, just like android, are at their full potential when custom roms are created. I think if they were more devs into the os it could compete.
Why get off one sinking ship to get on another sinking ship?
"Why get off one sinking ship to get on another sinking ship?" vetvito
you think Mango will sink?
No money to be made there, just like WebOS. You get customers first, the devs will follow.
Microsoft should come back. Competition keeps the others sharp.
I kind of pity all of those developers who spent months developing for WebOS only to have it be trashed.
1.2 billion down the drain....
...wow just read up on all the money hp used to buy and develop webOS that number was just for the purchase of Palm inc.