Hey guys, got a question here. I just got my infinity, so i haven't gone into rooting it yet, and have received the option to upgrade firmware. I'm. A bit scared cause ive read people got theirs bricked following an upgrade. Is this possible?? Or was it happening to rooted users only?? How safe is it to upgrade to JB with a full stock infinity??
Example of what I mean: http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...pdate-brick-anyone-elses-infinity-tablet.html
Seen it somewhere on xda too
Thanks for the help!
Pd: don't have time right now to get into rooting it ( i will later on), so I'd appreciate if we could skip the " just root" suggestion, thanks!
not sure why you think we care if you root or not.
just run the update and be happy.
coldsun15 said:
Hey guys, got a question here. I just got my infinity, so i haven't gone into rooting it yet, and have received the option to upgrade firmware. I'm. A bit scared cause ive read people got theirs bricked following an upgrade. Is this possible?? Or was it happening to rooted users only?? How safe is it to upgrade to JB with a full stock infinity??
Example of what I mean: http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...pdate-brick-anyone-elses-infinity-tablet.html
Seen it somewhere on xda too
Thanks for the help!
Pd: don't have time right now to get into rooting it ( i will later on), so I'd appreciate if we could skip the " just root" suggestion, thanks!
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First, check to see what's the current build version on your tab, if it's .26, then you need to do nvflash backup your bootloader (very important), will get back to this later. If you have version .30 you just go ahead and update to Jelly Bean. Just for your information, once you're on Jelly bean and if you want to root, you need to downgrade back to .30, root it then upgrade back to Jelly bean. OR you could UNLOCK your device (this will void your warantty) while on Jelly Bean, then root it. Read this carefully and make your decision.
lafester said:
not sure why you think we care if you root or not.
just run the update and be happy.
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Exactly.
No problems updating from a rooted device here.
I lost root, but I didn't care.
No reason to fool with all the rooting stuff if you just want to use the tablet.
An easier root solution will come along eventually.
Update and...be happy!
Thats OK said:
Exactly.
No problems updating from a rooted device here.
I lost root, but I didn't care.
No reason to fool with all the rooting stuff if you just want to use the tablet.
An easier root solution will come along eventually.
Update and...be happy!
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Ok, that i didnt know... previous to this tablet, all i've had is my htc phone, which is a pain in the arse to root, unlock, and well, basically, cant update if u have root, since it would brick, so i thought same applied here.
I will root at some point, cause i really like the freedom it gives you (root + unlock bootloader actully)
buhohitr said:
First, check to see what's the current build version on your tab, if it's .26, then you need to do nvflash backup your bootloader (very important), will get back to this later. If you have version .30 you just go ahead and update to Jelly Bean. Just for your information, once you're on Jelly bean and if you want to root, you need to downgrade back to .30, root it then upgrade back to Jelly bean. OR you could UNLOCK your device (this will void your warantty) while on Jelly Bean, then root it. Read this carefully and make your decision.
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i knew that if i updated, id later have to downgrade it back in order to root, but just feel like trying official jb before getting into trying roms.
and btw, even though im .30, whats the problem with updating if in .26??
lafester said:
not sure why you think we care if you root or not.
just run the update and be happy.
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Well, my experience in other forums (desire z), most of the times people suggested to root, so i just wanted to make it clear. Not that i think anyone cares or should care.
coldsun15 said:
Ok, that i didnt know... previous to this tablet, all i've had is my htc phone, which is a pain in the arse to root, unlock, and well, basically, cant update if u have root, since it would brick, so i thought same applied here.
I will root at some point, cause i really like the freedom it gives you (root + unlock bootloader actully)
i knew that if i updated, id later have to downgrade it back in order to root, but just feel like trying official jb before getting into trying roms.
and btw, even though im .30, whats the problem with updating if in .26??
I thought if you do have .26 then you are a very lucky man. You could able to backup your bootloader and make your device brick safe.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901479
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buhohitr said:
coldsun15 said:
I thought if you do have .26 then you are a very lucky man. You could able to backup your bootloader and make your device brick safe.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901479
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well, thats a bummer, lol.
So, in any case, with the .30 version, is it safe to upgrade, or do i have the risk of getting into the same problem i stated in the link at post 1?
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coldsun15 said:
buhohitr said:
well, thats a bummer, lol.
So, in any case, with the .30 version, is it safe to upgrade, or do i have the risk of getting into the same problem i stated in the link at post 1?
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It's very safe, piece of cake!! go for it!
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coldsun15 said:
It's very safe, piece of cake!! go for it!
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So, just for my own information (and anyone else who might find it interesting), why have this persons ran into bricks when updating to jb?
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I believe on the TF300 its not possible, but I am curious if it is possible on this device? I would honestly love to install custom ROMs, but after spending an hour on the phone with squaretrade today if I purchased a warranty through them, unlocking would void their warranty as well, so I would really hate to spend $450 and lose all hope of getting it serviced if it breaks a week later.
Thanks for the help guys, currently stuck if I want to spend the extra $150 on this or just keep my TF300. I mainly want to use it as a game machine and sadly need to root to use a controller (I don't have the dock).
Thanks!
Edit: This is guessing that the device will come with JB rom, I see it can be rooted unlocked with ICS.
You can root without having to be unlocked, yes.You need to be sure that you're NOT on JB, though. Firmware .30 or earlier on ICS can be rooted with the debugfs method listed on this forum. You will lose root once you upgrade to JB again, though. Unless you use OTA Rootkeeper to backup the root. There is currently no way to root the tablet on JB without being unlocked or downgrading.
Firebrazer said:
You can root without having to be unlocked, yes.You need to be sure that you're NOT on JB, though. Firmware .30 or earlier on ICS can be rooted with the debugfs method listed on this forum. You will lose root once you upgrade to JB again, though. Unless you use OTA Rootkeeper to backup the root. There is currently no way to root the tablet on JB without being unlocked or downgrading.
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I did read about that and was rather happy to see it. Then its just a matter of hoping mine comes with the right firmware. Just curious as i've never had to do it before. Is it easy to unroot if it is needed to be sent in for repair? I know SuperSU has an option that removes root files to switch superuser apps, just not sure if thats thorough enough.
Thanks!
Yes, unrooting is fairly easy. You can always reset it using the stock recovery. I don't actually think you will have to unroot it, though. You'll lose your warranty if you unlock the bootloader, not if you just root, afaik.
Firebrazer said:
Yes, unrooting is fairly easy. You can always reset it using the stock recovery. I don't actually think you will have to unroot it, though. You'll lose your warranty if you unlock the bootloader, not if you just root, afaik.
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Yeah, thats why I am looking into just rooting for now.
Thank you so much for the help, gonna go snag this up while its on sale for $449. Hopefully I can put up with the stock lag and everything people complain about
I'm on the OTA JB and stock. Is there anyway to gain root without having to go back and then reinstall JB? I had hoped someone would have come up with a straight forward means of rooting this device as with the old one click. I hope it's in the works.
ergon said:
I'm on the OTA JB and stock. Is there anyway to gain root without having to go back and then reinstall JB? I had hoped someone would have come up with a straight forward means of rooting this device as with the old one click. I hope it's in the works.
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Well I guess I should have kept the phone I had. I bought this thing at retail and no help from the home team. What th hell. Either noone knows the answer or gives a ****. If there's no way just say so.
ergon said:
Well I guess I should have kept the phone I had. I bought this thing at retail and no help from the home team. What th hell. Either noone knows the answer or gives a ****. If there's no way just say so.
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sorry that is the only way at the moment
I had tried to "save root" on ICS beforehand but because I flashed JB through an SBF it did not work to retain it. I flashed SuperSu through CWM recovery and got root on stock JB.
My bootloader is unlocked BTW.
So i take it that if i root theres no way of getting my warranty back with this phone.
So once rooted they will forever no that i have rooted my device?
xxaimbkstarxx said:
So i take it that if i root theres no way of getting my warranty back with this phone.
So once rooted they will forever no that i have rooted my device?
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You could unroot the device. What is done can be undone.
KachowPow said:
You could unroot the device. What is done can be undone.
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I think he's saying it because the recovery on this phone actually says if you have rooted the phone or not, if that's the case then yeah you lost your warranty like me
Sent from my unbranded Razr HD =)
xxaimbkstarxx said:
So i take it that if i root theres no way of getting my warranty back with this phone.
So once rooted they will forever no that i have rooted my device?
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Correct, but I believe they would actually NEED the phone to tell this. So if you are rooted, the best thing to do would be to "lose" your phone....
christian5916 said:
I think he's saying it because the recovery on this phone actually says if you have rooted the phone or not, if that's the case then yeah you lost your warranty like me
Sent from my unbranded Razr HD =)
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Technically correct.
But Motorola / Verizon will never go through the trouble of proving an unroot for purposes of denying warranty.
The reason is because it is cheaper and faster to just process a warranty request, than to spend the time investigating reasons why they should deny a warranty.
kent1146 said:
Technically correct.
But Motorola / Verizon will never go through the trouble of proving an unroot for purposes of denying warranty.
The reason is because it is cheaper and faster to just process a warranty request, than to spend the time investigating reasons why they should deny a warranty.
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That's true, ClaroPR just send the phone to the technicians and if they don't find anything funny they exchange it
Sent from my unbranded Razr HD =)
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thanks, it was really helpful
xxaimbkstarxx said:
So i take it that if i root theres no way of getting my warranty back with this phone.
So once rooted they will forever no that i have rooted my device?
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There actually are two bits that gets set in the rom when you root the device that is displayed when you go into recovery. If the phone is currently rooted both bits show as true. Even if you unroot, one bit acts as a history bit so you get a 0 for current root and a 1 for previously rooted. The only way to clear the history bit is to reflash the stock rom with RSDLite. If you do this everything goes back to original state. I've personally done this and it works.
When to root...
I've been considering updating to JB but it is when to root is the question. Right now I'm rooted on stock ICS and it was a really simple process. However, I've read that after JB, in order to root you need to unlock the bootloader and install CWM. It is the bootloader unlocking that will void your warranty since you have to basically ask Motorola permission to do it.
I'm hoping that somehow someone will find a method of upgrading to JB and keeping root, or upgrading and getting root again without unlocking the bootloader. I've only had my XT925 for less than a week, so I'm not ready to void my warranty.
biKF said:
I've been considering updating to JB but it is when to root is the question. Right now I'm rooted on stock ICS and it was a really simple process. However, I've read that after JB, in order to root you need to unlock the bootloader and install CWM. It is the bootloader unlocking that will void your warranty since you have to basically ask Motorola permission to do it.
I'm hoping that somehow someone will find a method of upgrading to JB and keeping root, or upgrading and getting root again without unlocking the bootloader. I've only had my XT925 for less than a week, so I'm not ready to void my warranty.
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Woah woah, all you need it the OTA RootKeeper, and then you should be able to OTA to JB and keep root. You shouldn't have to mess with the bootloader at all, unless the 925 is significantly different from the 926, but I don't think it is.
extide said:
Woah woah, all you need it the OTA RootKeeper, and then you should be able to OTA to JB and keep root. You shouldn't have to mess with the bootloader at all, unless the 925 is significantly different from the 926, but I don't think it is.
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Unfortunately, OTA Root Keeper did not keep the root after my JB upgrade.
So I'm running into difficulties updating to jellybean.
I'm rooted on stock 4.04,with the bootloader unlocked, and have vodoo ota installed.
When installing the update, it prompts me in cwm to install the untrusted package. So I click ok to continue.
A quarter way through it fails and reboots, then continues to reboot continously after it powers up to the home screen.
What am I doing wrong, what should I disable to install this ota update.
Thanks in advance
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What haven't I done?
I have a developer xt926 razr hd that is unlocked at the bootloader. What do I need to complete a root?
Got it with running layers of exploits alternating them. Lost it upgrading a few times. Its fairly easy once you get use to the operating system.
JAB©
I haven't been on XDA in an incredible amount of time and want to get back into the swing of things. Currently I can only find root guides for phones that are on a different android version than my GS3. It's been awhile, so forgive me if I have said anything that doesn't make sense.
philski421 said:
I haven't been on XDA in an incredible amount of time and want to get back into the swing of things. Currently I can only find root guides for phones that are on a different android version than my GS3. It's been awhile, so forgive me if I have said anything that doesn't make sense.
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This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046439
buhohitr said:
This one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046439
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Thanks! Just what I was looking for
philski421 said:
Thanks! Just what I was looking for
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There's nothing in this procedure about wiping and that may be what went wrong when I used it? Please comment those who know...Also to let you know; I updated to 4.1.2 and got soft bricked. I tried the guide again and couldn't find enough information on how to make the recovery work, where to place the recovery, etc. Couldn't get a reply to pleas for help.. ended up doing a factory reset from the dead recovery image and am now in 4.1.1. Maybe I can root from here. But since my only rooting experience before this was Droid and easy I'd like some help. Not sure where to get it.If my postings are a pain its because I'm a bit freaked by the difficulty of rooting this device.
You can try this. If you want to take a ota after flashing install ota rootkeeper...read all the directions to temp unroot and regain root after update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1984436
The posted 4.1.2 file is not a stock file it was a leak. Use 4.1.1 K3.....follow the directions in the thread.
i updated my verizon Galaxy S3 (I535) today, and forgot to unroot it so expectedly i go the "unsuccessful" update, but it did update, i have the changes. but i cannot get into supersu so i cannot unroot my phone (never really used the rooting anyways)
is there anyway to unroot my phone atm? and/or to make sure i have the entire update?
(wasnt really expecting to get the update at all with a rooted phone)
also i cannot get into supersu cause my phone is still recongnized as 4.3 instead of 4.1.2
...not really sure what to do
Hmm, well you can root using SafeRoot according to multiple users in our general TW 4.3 thread.
Maybe you can unroot after you root using that but there's no way to downgrade or Odin flash a ML1 tar unless we see one published in the near future. If you unroot after rooting then you could probably try installing the TW 4.3 update.zip in recovery but there's no guarantees it'll work and if it messes up, you're SOL until further notice.
Edit: so its clear, you can ONLY root. Flashing roms is not possible or recommended as of this moment if on TW 4.3
SlimSnoopOS said:
Hmm, well you can root using SafeRoot according to multiple users in our general TW 4.3 thread.
Maybe you can unroot after you root using that but there's no way to downgrade or Odin flash a ML1 tar unless we see one published in the near future. If you unroot after rooting then you could probably try installing the TW 4.3 update.zip in recovery but there's no guarantees it'll work and if it messes up, you're SOL until further notice.
Edit: so its clear, you can ONLY root. Flashing roms is not possible or recommended as of this moment if on TW 4.3
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ok thanks,
ill keep watch, i mean everything seems fine on my phone its just the "unsucessful update" is a bit foreboding given that i obviously have the update o.o
no way to downgrade either atm i take it?
if i could down grade i could unroot easily and then update
KabuTheFox said:
ok thanks,
ill keep watch, i mean everything seems fine on my phone its just the "unsucessful update" is a bit foreboding given that i obviously have the update o.o
no way to downgrade either atm i take it?
if i could down grade i could unroot easily and then update
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Nah, you'll have a hardbricked phone with seemingly no way to fix it if you attempt to downgrade. If/when VRUCML1 stock tar file is posted then you could flash that in Odin. What you'll need is something specifically for TW 4.3 whether that's root, root/unlock, or Odin. Nothing older is compatible.
KabuTheFox said:
i updated my verizon Galaxy S3 (I535) today, and forgot to unroot it so expectedly i go the "unsuccessful" update, but it did update, i have the changes. but i cannot get into supersu so i cannot unroot my phone (never really used the rooting anyways)
is there anyway to unroot my phone atm? and/or to make sure i have the entire update?
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I believe that by going to the OTA 4.3, you are no longer rooted. The update "unrooted" you.
Thanks Slim !!
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SlimSnoopOS said:
Hmm, well you can root using SafeRoot according to multiple users in our general TW 4.3 thread.
Maybe you can unroot after you root using that but there's no way to downgrade or Odin flash a ML1 tar unless we see one published in the near future. If you unroot after rooting then you could probably try installing the TW 4.3 update.zip in recovery but there's no guarantees it'll work and if it messes up, you're SOL until further notice.
Edit: so its clear, you can ONLY root. Flashing roms is not possible or recommended as of this moment if on TW 4.3
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SafeRoot was a success and I now have a rooted device. I just purchased this used and it did an automatic update when i turned it on. Pretty bummed about now being able to switch out the ROM, but at least I've got root now! saferoot is awesome!
aarontsuru said:
I believe that by going to the OTA 4.3, you are no longer rooted. The update "unrooted" you.
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the update database doesnt recongize my phone tho, and thats why it couldnt complete the update.
but according to my phone im still on 4.3 technically
it has been some time, there might already be something out for all i know by now