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so i have rooted my evo before but i had to take it in to sprint because i broke the screen. i havent rooted it again since because last time they gave me a huge problem that it was rooted. today, i talked to my friend and he has his rooted with roms and everything. he says that even if rooted, and with a rom it is possible to go back to factory with superuser app gone and everything, if need be. i wanted to know if this is correct, and if so, how?
i am supposed to go to his house tomorrow for him to do it all for me, i want to make sure i really want to do this.
thank you!
mrodriguez091 said:
so i have rooted my evo before but i had to take it in to sprint because i broke the screen. i havent rooted it again since because last time they gave me a huge problem that it was rooted. today, i talked to my friend and he has his rooted with roms and everything. he says that even if rooted, and with a rom it is possible to go back to factory with superuser app gone and everything, if need be. i wanted to know if this is correct, and if so, how?
i am supposed to go to his house tomorrow for him to do it all for me, i want to make sure i really want to do this.
thank you!
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I think it's called a RUU rom. Wipes as if you were never there., back to factory stock.
Cheers!
do you have a rooted phone with roms on it?
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do you have a rooted phone with roms on it?
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Sure do. Running EVO with CyanogenMod 7 nightly build.
is there anyway you could walk me through or if you could show me somewhere that has it?
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is there anyway you could walk me through or if you could show me somewhere that has it?
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First, you need to go to unrevoked and root your phone. There are plenty of step/step guides out there, I'll see if I can find a good one for ya. Recommend doing a bunch of reading before jumping in, or waiting for your friend to do it tomorrow.
Edit: be sure to click on More info link on unrevoked site and read up.
i could do the rooting, but do i need to do the forever root?
mrodriguez091 said:
i could do the rooting, but do i need to do the forever root?
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Oops, sorry. Got busy flashing a new nightly ROM.
Yes, do Forever.
mrodriguez091 said:
is there anyway you could walk me through or if you could show me somewhere that has it?
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Here's a pretty thorough step by step guide for ya. goodandEVO
then just download rom manager?
Okay first off, i know this is the wrong section. I can not post in development because I am new here, but I am in need of help desperately. Okay so I am rooted on 1.85 and the bootloader is NOT unlocked. Well i decided today to take the update to 4.0.4 before I did research. (Stupid me eh?) Well I start the OTA and then do some research. I learn that the update to 4.0.4 might be harmful to rooted users. So I disconnect from WiFi knowing it will pause the download. Well now I have a download that is just paused in the notification bar, and any time i connect to wifi it will continue the download. While the download is paused, can i unroot and take the update safely? I have seriously been searching for hours on end to find someone with a situation that I am in and i can not.
If you do a factory reset the update will go away. But that would also make you loose root. You should unlock the bootloader, then flash the rooted 2.20 update from the dev section.
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Yep, get that bootloader unlocked immediately and flash a rooted stock ROM or a custom ROM. Make sure you backup all your stuff with Titanium because the bootloader unlock will wipe your phone.
Also, just so you know, this thread most definitely did NOT belong in development, which is reserved for ROMs and kernels and root guides and the like ONLY. Threads like this belong in Q+A but nobody is gonna kill you for posting it in General.
After the download, you should get a prompt to either Install, Postpone, or you can press the "back" capacitive button to cancel. Cancel should stop the update notifications. At least this is how its worked on past HTC OTAs. I personally can't verify, as I haven't gotten the notification yet. But others seem to verify this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1817429
But if you want to be safe, you should SuperCID and unlock bootloader first, as others have suggested. Pressing the wrong button for the method I suggested above will be catastrophic otherwise (lose the ability to root and unlock BL).
Thanks for your help guys!
I just did a factory data reset on my phone. Honestly, I've gotten myself into trouble with rooting. I really need to read up before i continue with things of this sort. So since i did a factory data reset, am i 100% unrooted? Will i be safe to take the OTA now? Thanks for your help guys!
If you were stock 1.85, and rooted using the one-click or "manual" method (which you must be, if you you are still BL locked), then you are now unrooted. You are either rooted or not, there is no "percentage" of rooted.
What kind of trouble have you gotten into rooting, and what do you typically use root for?
I've been debating on whether or not to just go ahead and install the OTA to 2.2. The only thing I've used for root was for WiFi-Tether and I don't even use that anymore so I think I don't even necessarily NEED root anymore. I'm just tired of the updater telling me there's a new update to install - frankly very annoying. I've been just using the back capacitive button to cancel it. BUT, the last time I did this when 1.73 went to 1.85, I was just stock rooted, no unlocked BL (just like I am now), when I tried to install the OTA, went to that error with the triangle and exclamation point and wouldn't let me install it. I had to reflash to stock RUU because it was giving me a bootloop. I just don't want that to happen again... What does that triangle and exclamation point even really mean? I can't find a definitive answer on it. Shouldn't the OTA just install as normal, but it'll remove root in the process?
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BUT, the last time I did this when 1.73 went to 1.85, I was just stock rooted, no unlocked BL (just like I am now), when I tried to install the OTA, went to that error with the triangle and exclamation point and wouldn't let me install it. I had to reflash to stock RUU because it was giving me a bootloop. I just don't want that to happen again... What does that triangle and exclamation point even really mean? I can't find a definitive answer on it. Shouldn't the OTA just install as normal, but it'll remove root in the process?
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Red triangle and exclamation point is the stock recovery. This appears if something about the ROM is missing or corrupted. Not sure why this happened to you in that particular case. But installing OTAs on rooted phones is always a crap shoot. Sometimes it works, and you just lose root. Sometimes you boot loop or other things.
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Red triangle and exclamation point is the stock recovery. This appears if something about the ROM is missing or corrupted. Not sure why this happened to you in that particular case. But installing OTAs on rooted phones is always a crap shoot. Sometimes it works, and you just lose root. Sometimes you boot loop or other things.
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That's what I was afraid of. Actually, I remember trying to install the 2.2 OTA a few days ago as well. Same red triangle and exclamation point. This time wasn't a boot loop and I just rebooted again and ever since, just kept canceling the update. Not sure what's going on...
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That's what I was afraid of. Actually, I remember trying to install the 2.2 OTA a few days ago as well. Same red triangle and exclamation point. This time wasn't a boot loop and I just rebooted again and ever since, just kept canceling the update. Not sure what's going on...
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Is the update actually downloaded to your phone? You may need to locate and delete it.
It may be trying to install the OTA from recovery, which makes sense. Don't actually know what happens when an OTA installs.
I've never installed an OTA! I'm always rooted, always will be!!!!
Just to be sure.
I did a factory data reset the night of the problem, been good ever since! I have not done anything to the phone except install a few apps. Should i be okay to take the OTA now? Sorry i just really want to be sure. This is my 3rd phone is 3 months so... no second chances.
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Okay, so i took a chance on the update. It worked! I will not be rooting anymore until i read up. Sorry guys if you feel this thread was unnecessary. Just an FYI to any who are worried about taking the newest update after a factory data reset, don't be! Thank you to all:highfive:
Did everyone got an update ?
I still do not see update notification
From beast called HTC One X
It's a little late for this probably but for future reference if you are rooted and want to stop receiving OTA updates remove/rename/delete HtcOMADM_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik. If you want to remove "AT&T software update" from the "Settings" then remove HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik.
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It's a little late for this probably but for future reference if you are rooted and want to stop receiving OTA updates remove/rename/delete HtcOMADM_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik. If you want to remove "AT&T software update" from the "Settings" then remove HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.apk and HtcOMADM_SettingsPlugin_ATT.odex from system/apps, wipe cache and dalvik.
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Excellent info!
ssteven232 said:
Okay, so i took a chance on the update. It worked! I will not be rooting anymore until i read up. Sorry guys if you feel this thread was unnecessary. Just an FYI to any who are worried about taking the newest update after a factory data reset, don't be! Thank you to all:highfive:
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Looks like you will not be rooting anymore for a while now, since there is no method to root the 2.2 update. AT&T / HTC made sure the current rooting method won't work on it. Hopefully, the devs will eventually crack this one too.
I hope you knew that before making the dive ... I would have just unlocked the bootloader and flashed a ROM with the update baked into it to get the best of both worlds. But that's just me. I can't own an android without root access. To reach his own.
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Looks like you will not be rooting anymore for a while now, since there is no method to root the 2.2 update. AT&T / HTC made sure the current rooting method won't work on it. Hopefully, the devs will eventually crack this one too.
I hope you knew that before making the dive ... I would have just unlocked the bootloader and flashed a ROM with the update baked into it to get the best of both worlds. But that's just me. I can't own an android without root access. To reach his own.
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Yeah, I hear what you're saying and you are right. The current rooting method does not work with the new hboot. But.... If you have your bootloader unlocked beforehand you can still still get root after taking the OTA... And you can still flash a custom rom afterwards, from what I understand you would just need to fastboot flash the boot.img. I haven't personally tried it because I like staying fairly stock, just seriously cleaned up with some mods (init.d support, wifi/usb tethering, missing apps replaced). One thing I am curious about and to be honest I haven't spent any time researching the answer, what kernel are the roms using that are based on the 2.23 (4.0.4) Asian RUU? I wonder because I know the combination of the AT&T 2.20 (4.0.4) update with the new kernel and radio is working very, very well on my phone! My quadrant went up 800 points and battery life is still ridiculously good! I also have to agree with "I can't own an android without root access" especially on AT&T. Personally I'm good to go until the Jelly Bean update! Decisions, decisions! :laugh:
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Yeah, I hear what you're saying and you are right. The current rooting method does not work with the new hboot. But.... If you have your bootloader unlocked beforehand you can still still get root after taking the OTA... And you can still flash a custom rom afterwards, from what I understand you would just need to fastboot flash the boot.img. I haven't personally tried it because I like staying fairly stock, just seriously cleaned up with some mods (init.d support, wifi/usb tethering, missing apps replaced).
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I've never installed an OTA, so I wouldn't know either. Honestly, I don't know why one would do that, when the awesome devs here post ROMs with the latest OTAs and root prebaked into them. There are "modded" ROMs and "stock" (or close to stock) ROMs available to everyone's taste.
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One thing I am curious about and to be honest I haven't spent any time researching the answer, what kernel are the roms using that are based on the 2.23 (4.0.4) Asian RUU? I wonder because I know the combination of the AT&T 2.20 (4.0.4) update with the new kernel and radio is working very, very well on my phone!
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Right now, I'm running CleanROM 4.5, which is based on the 2.23 RUU. I did install the 2.20 radio, thinking it would work better, since I'm on AT&T. I took a screenshot of the kernel screen for you.
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My quadrant went up 800 points and battery life is still ridiculously good!
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Where was your improvement? Did the increase happen in the aspect/area that directly affects your daily use, or in some esoteric algorithm that the phone all of a sudden processes faster? I used to go crazy on quadrant scores, but now I don't really understand their value/accuracy. As long as the phone feels buttery smooth while lasting 5+ hours of screen time, I'm happy!
Since you're interested in the scores, I installed quadrant and ran it, so you can compare.
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in admiration, totally confused!
borets.boris said:
Right now, I'm running CleanROM 4.5, which is based on the 2.23 RUU. I did install the 2.20 radio, thinking it would work better, since I'm on AT&T. I took a screenshot of the kernel screen for you.
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Hi, do you think you could point me in the right direction for this? I found the general thread on radios, but am at a total loss about what it means or what to do with it!
You knew this was the wrong section but posted here anyway? Not a good way to start your membership on XDA. First rule of thumb is to search before creating a thread. Google is a great source for information. For future reference, all questions belong in the Q&A section, where coincidentally, this is being moved to.
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My wife recently updated her phone via wifi to JB from ICS and her phone is damn near unusable. She wants to throw it out on the freeway. Her phone since the update is sluggish, and a constant headache for her. Her phone is stock, and unrooted. Do I need to root it in order to go back to ICS? Sorry in advance if this has been asked before.
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My wife recently updated her phone via wifi to JB from ICS and her phone is damn near unusable. She wants to throw it out on the freeway. Her phone since the update is sluggish, and a constant headache for her. Her phone is stock, and unrooted. Do I need to root it in order to go back to ICS? Sorry in advance if this has been asked before.
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You could flash in an ICS factory image using the built-in recovery (or at least I seem to remember doing something like it). But before anything, you need to know which variant of the phone you're dealing with (i9020a/i9020t/i9023/etc.) Just turn off the phone and check below the battery for the exact model. Once you have that, I (or somebody else around here) can link you to the right image for the device. :laugh:
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You could flash in an ICS factory image using the built-in recovery (or at least I seem to remember doing something like it). But before anything, you need to know which variant of the phone you're dealing with (i9020a/i9020t/i9023/etc.) Just turn off the phone and check below the battery for the exact model. Once you have that, I (or somebody else around here) can link you to the right image for the device. :laugh:
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Sorry about the missing info. Her phone is the NS4G model SPH-D720. Hope that may help.. Thanks for the reply Night.
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Sorry about the missing info. Her phone is the NS4G model SPH-D720. Hope that may help.. Thanks for the reply Night.
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Oh, there seem to be no full recovery-flashable images for the NS4G. You could install a full image using fastboot but that would require unlocking your phone's bootloader (which more or less voids any warranty) and would also wipe all the data. If you're not particularly attached to all the data in the phone, you could try a factory reset to see if JB problems get resolved. Otherwise, maybe some other forum member might have a better idea.
OK, thank you. I'm about to go to sleep, and I'll ask her in the morning how she feels about the phone being wiped. In the meantime, maybe others can shed some info also. Again, thanks for the replies.
My wife and I both have the NS4g from Sprint, but our approach as to how we use the device is very different. She doesn't like change, simply wants the parts of the system that she uses, to work ... mainly tethering, mms, camera, phone. If your wife is anything like mine ... make your life a little easier, and just root the phone. It will give you so much more flexibility and choices. About a week ago, OMJ posted a stock, rooted rom in the NS4g development thread that would be perfect for her. It's all there ... smooth ... quick ... everything works.
i think before trying anything that could avoid your warranty you should do a factory reset ... it probably could solve all your wife issues ... it will just delete all your app but not photo or documents ( unless you select that option ) and you could after reinstall just the really needed apps your wife need ...
@wmdunn - She mainly uses her camera as well.
@kriout - doing a factory reset will still give her back JB tho wouldn't it? I'll ask her just to try it, and if it still runs slow, I guess root it?
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@wmdunn - She mainly uses her camera as well.
@kriout - doing a factory reset will still give her back JB tho wouldn't it? I'll ask her just to try it, and if it still runs slow, I guess root it?
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The camera software in JB is really nice. As for rooting ... I have rooted every phone we've owned, and never had any problem with warranty issues. The rooted versions of the stock JB rom are smoother and quicker than the ota.
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The camera software in JB is really nice. As for rooting ... I have rooted every phone we've owned, and never had any problem with warranty issues. The rooted versions of the stock JB rom are smoother and quicker than the ota.
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reinstall the stock image via fastboot, u will get a buttery smooth experience
Unfortunately, she is going to just deal with it and doesn't want to redo all the game play she has worked for for the last year. Thank you for all your input, I'll be sure to recheck this thread should she change her mind and re-read your help.
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reinstall the stock image via fastboot, u will get a buttery smooth experience
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To do that via fastboot, Would I have to root?
/thread
No just an unlocked bootloader (wont void your warranty)
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Hey guys, got a question here. I just got my infinity, so i haven't gone into rooting it yet, and have received the option to upgrade firmware. I'm. A bit scared cause ive read people got theirs bricked following an upgrade. Is this possible?? Or was it happening to rooted users only?? How safe is it to upgrade to JB with a full stock infinity??
Example of what I mean: http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...pdate-brick-anyone-elses-infinity-tablet.html
Seen it somewhere on xda too
Thanks for the help!
Pd: don't have time right now to get into rooting it ( i will later on), so I'd appreciate if we could skip the " just root" suggestion, thanks!
not sure why you think we care if you root or not.
just run the update and be happy.
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Hey guys, got a question here. I just got my infinity, so i haven't gone into rooting it yet, and have received the option to upgrade firmware. I'm. A bit scared cause ive read people got theirs bricked following an upgrade. Is this possible?? Or was it happening to rooted users only?? How safe is it to upgrade to JB with a full stock infinity??
Example of what I mean: http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...pdate-brick-anyone-elses-infinity-tablet.html
Seen it somewhere on xda too
Thanks for the help!
Pd: don't have time right now to get into rooting it ( i will later on), so I'd appreciate if we could skip the " just root" suggestion, thanks!
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First, check to see what's the current build version on your tab, if it's .26, then you need to do nvflash backup your bootloader (very important), will get back to this later. If you have version .30 you just go ahead and update to Jelly Bean. Just for your information, once you're on Jelly bean and if you want to root, you need to downgrade back to .30, root it then upgrade back to Jelly bean. OR you could UNLOCK your device (this will void your warantty) while on Jelly Bean, then root it. Read this carefully and make your decision.
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not sure why you think we care if you root or not.
just run the update and be happy.
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Exactly.
No problems updating from a rooted device here.
I lost root, but I didn't care.
No reason to fool with all the rooting stuff if you just want to use the tablet.
An easier root solution will come along eventually.
Update and...be happy!
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Exactly.
No problems updating from a rooted device here.
I lost root, but I didn't care.
No reason to fool with all the rooting stuff if you just want to use the tablet.
An easier root solution will come along eventually.
Update and...be happy!
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Ok, that i didnt know... previous to this tablet, all i've had is my htc phone, which is a pain in the arse to root, unlock, and well, basically, cant update if u have root, since it would brick, so i thought same applied here.
I will root at some point, cause i really like the freedom it gives you (root + unlock bootloader actully)
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First, check to see what's the current build version on your tab, if it's .26, then you need to do nvflash backup your bootloader (very important), will get back to this later. If you have version .30 you just go ahead and update to Jelly Bean. Just for your information, once you're on Jelly bean and if you want to root, you need to downgrade back to .30, root it then upgrade back to Jelly bean. OR you could UNLOCK your device (this will void your warantty) while on Jelly Bean, then root it. Read this carefully and make your decision.
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i knew that if i updated, id later have to downgrade it back in order to root, but just feel like trying official jb before getting into trying roms.
and btw, even though im .30, whats the problem with updating if in .26??
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not sure why you think we care if you root or not.
just run the update and be happy.
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Well, my experience in other forums (desire z), most of the times people suggested to root, so i just wanted to make it clear. Not that i think anyone cares or should care.
coldsun15 said:
Ok, that i didnt know... previous to this tablet, all i've had is my htc phone, which is a pain in the arse to root, unlock, and well, basically, cant update if u have root, since it would brick, so i thought same applied here.
I will root at some point, cause i really like the freedom it gives you (root + unlock bootloader actully)
i knew that if i updated, id later have to downgrade it back in order to root, but just feel like trying official jb before getting into trying roms.
and btw, even though im .30, whats the problem with updating if in .26??
I thought if you do have .26 then you are a very lucky man. You could able to backup your bootloader and make your device brick safe.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901479
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coldsun15 said:
I thought if you do have .26 then you are a very lucky man. You could able to backup your bootloader and make your device brick safe.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1901479
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well, thats a bummer, lol.
So, in any case, with the .30 version, is it safe to upgrade, or do i have the risk of getting into the same problem i stated in the link at post 1?
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well, thats a bummer, lol.
So, in any case, with the .30 version, is it safe to upgrade, or do i have the risk of getting into the same problem i stated in the link at post 1?
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It's very safe, piece of cake!! go for it!
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It's very safe, piece of cake!! go for it!
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So, just for my own information (and anyone else who might find it interesting), why have this persons ran into bricks when updating to jb?
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The ICS OTA update keeps failing on my A2. I rooted it quite some time ago, and I don't really remember what method I used. As I recall, I initially used super one click, but it became un-rooted some months ago when they the OTA update was released that added emergency updates and a few other tweaks. I then used the first exploit available to root the phone.
I imagine that root access is the most likely culprit, so I did a factory reset; and put in blank microSD card just for good measure, but somehow, it was STILL rooted. I tried unrooting with super one click, and during the process it says
Shell rooted...false
su rooted...True
and continues to say that no matter how many times I try to unroot it. I seem to be stuck. The only other possibility is that it won't update because I'm visiting my wife's family in Canada; but it ALERTED me to the update, and it DOWNLOADS it just fine, so I would imagine that is should install it regardless. Someone help me out?
yes im a noob...please help me not to be
I tried updating and ended up haveing to wipe to the original 2.3.5 install...then update all the way back...unfortunently I think that will kill your root.....
I was having your issue now I am not and am on 4.5.1 but un-rooted till I can find a way to root it again...
hope that helps
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I tried updating and ended up haveing to wipe to the original 2.3.5 install...then update all the way back...unfortunently I think that will kill your root.....
I was having your issue now I am not and am on 4.5.1 but un-rooted till I can find a way to root it again...
hope that helps
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I was able to un-root it, from what I can tell. I found the exploit I used and there was an un-root option. Root check says it's lokced down, so does super one click, but it still won't update; so I suppose it's probably just more of AT&T's crap. I guess I'll know when I get back to the states next week; I'm just impatient.
Then again, I waited this long for the official OTA, fighting back the urge to just install the leak, so I guess I'm not TOO impatient.
I just want my freaking update!
Having root will not affect being able to OTA update.
What else have you done to your phone?
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Having root will not affect being able to OTA update.
What else have you done to your phone?
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Nothing. I've even un-rooted it. My next step is to try to locate a stock ROM and flashing instructions, roll it back and see if that helps. Can anyone point me in the direction for that.
Aaaaand now I've screwed myself up even further. Tried to flash back to 2.3.5 and it's failing at step 6/20. Guess I'll have to go dig up the 2.3.6 stock, which will put me all the way back at square 1.
Sounds like you are trying to use the unmodifed 2.3.5 FXZ. Read this. It has everything you will need to recover.
Good luck!
Yup. That was the problem with that step. I'm not sure WHAT was going on when I was on 2.3.6, but that thing did NOT want to take the update. Going down to 2.3.5, then OTA to 2.3.6 FINALLY allowed me to OTA to ICS. Thanks everyone!