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Ok to start off, no flaming, respect to game devs for android, but I am asking myself why don't we have decent games? Why? Now I love the games we have, but there's only a 100 or so out of 10000000 games on android market that are worth playing. If you go to 'just in' in the games section then all there is are puzzles and low quality sex games. WTF! Seriously this is getting worse. Android market is growing and growing with apps but they don't really have games that give us the full potential of our high tech devices, they look more like games for the HTC g1, I am very dissapointed with this and my next phone is going to be a iPhone despite the amazing feautures of android just because of the quality of apps. Or shall I say games more because one of the main reasons to get a android was to play some awsome games. Gameloft is doing a amazing job to give good games. Love angry birds, adequate other game dev's, but that's about it. The rest are just low quality rubbish. Not flaming just my point of view. Waiting for iPhone 5 if this doesn't improve. This started when I played COD : Zombies and cut the rope on my friends iPhone 4.
What's your thought please share
one of the main reasons to get a android was to play some awsome games.
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That said, [EPIC FAIL]
It is easier to develop on iPhone because there is a one -fixed- kind of device. I mean, no different resolutions, no different devices, no different hardware on devices like android. Of course it is easier to develop. Nevertheless, still there is better applications for Android. Or am I wrong? iPhone is more like a "showcase" which is useless in real world -in my opinion-. But I would buy iPhone if I want games.
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That said, [EPIC FAIL]
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So ur telling me android can't handle gaming?
And I agree about the resoloution, but now the new android devices are always 400x800 so why not have specific games just for those.
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No, I'm not saying Android is not for games. I'm saying that iPhone is. Android has a different target in mind. Of course there are plenty of games, from sports to FPS, but if you're not ok with them, well, iPhone is the only way.
If you're just complaining why android doesn't have "cool" games, well, do a forum search, you'll find plenty of threads about this. No need to open one more.
elegos said:
No, I'm not saying Android is not for games. I'm saying that iPhone is. Android has a different target in mind. Of course there are plenty of games, from sports to FPS, but if you're not ok with them, well, iPhone is the only way.
If you're just complaining why android doesn't have "cool" games, well, do a forum search, you'll find plenty of threads about this. No need to open one more.
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I was just expressing my opinion, and gaming is one of the things you do on ur phone when u r just bored sometimes on the move. Im not complaining about android, in just thinking what's so hard about making a good game on android. I think android market should have some requirements on devs making games to sell to improve the standard rather than people just publishing basic puzzle games or sex wikis lol.
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So ur telling me android can't handle gaming?
And I agree about the resoloution, but now the new android devices are always 400x800 so why not have specific games just for those.
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Mine is 480x320 and I love it. And I am not going to buy a "huge" device. And I think I am not the only one.
That would mean review over the market, and that may lead to an annual fee to post applications on the Market. I don't personally want to pay a fee for just posting my free apps, nor I'd like if I were selling low-price ones. Applications on the Market are indexed though by the community: if the majority of the population likes a sex game, then it will be in both the main screen and in "most popular" of their category. As of new games and apps, it's up to the developer to publicize it, just like I'm doing.
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Mine is 480x320 and I love it. And I am not going to buy a "huge" device. And I think I am not the only one.
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Well Google, should of had a rule for screen resoloutions to be the same for every android device to get better apps on android. Anyway, its all good, did a mistake once, not again.
All the Gameloft HD games are amazing. EA's got some cool games.
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All the Gameloft HD games are amazing. EA's got some cool games.
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I did say that but I disagree about EA, EA has released dead space 2 and bad company 2 ONLY for IOS
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I would imagine that once the Xperia Play and PlayStation Suite are out there will be a marked increase in the number and quality of games from the big developers.
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If you get a Tegra2 phone, there's also the TegraZone.
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Hello All,
I'm new to your forum but I've been developing software and games for over 25 years. After recently retiring my Zii Egg to a PMD after ZiiLabs failed to release the dev community a bug free version of Android that actually purposefully was left with hardware support disabled. All the hardware features were there running off their crap OS but they left it out for the Android developers.
Basically I got fkd out of $500 or something..Big deal, I moved on with our PC game development and forgot about Android until last Christmas when I was traveling to see my Family in Texas and had a chance to play with my sister's Galaxy running 2.1. There were limitations but the potential amazed me so I went out and grabbed a Droid X and started digging into the device.
My question to anyone who may have insight is: IS it worth my time to develop for Android when so many are becoming unhappy by the device limitations set by the carriers. For instance if I was to develop a multiplayer realtime simulation or game the technologies that are employed by the carriers such as B.O.D. (Bandwidth on Demand) would create insane latency issues.
Any thoughts or feedback would be appreciated.
Ty and Peace!
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Right now I feel the market for android is... Well stupid. Most people that have android phones aren't especially tech savvy and really don't know what kind of potential there phone has right at this moment.
Unlike IOS which is one form of hardware that anyone can jump on and play a game, regardless of it's release date and the current technology in their slightly newer Ipod Touch or Ipad.
But, I think that's going to change. Tablets are coming out from all kinds of manufactures and a lot of people are looking to jump in on the excitement. Nvidia is making a quad core processor and gpu (Kal-El) that is really showing a lot of performance benchmarks.
So I do think the market is going to get bigger, better and more lucrative as the serious gamers starting switching to tablets for their gaming needs.
But again... Do remember that it's going to take awhile as tablets still aren't a replacement for a computer and they still don't trump little johnny and susie's want of the PS Vita or 3DS.
Thank you for your very comprehensive answer! Sounds like I'll stick to PC and console game dev a bit longer before dipping into the Android zone. I really love the potential of the device but I concur that the demand won't exceed other platform's that are already very lucrative.
Thank you again for your response
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I think 3D cell phone gaming is a hugely untapped market that will see some hugely major growth in the next few years. I myself just purchased a Sony Xperia Play. I don't think the Play will be a massive hit, but I think it will set the stage to get people seriously thinking about 3D gaming on their phones. By the time the Play 2 comes around, I think we are going to start seeing a lot more interest in 3d gaming on people's cellular devices.
we're seeing official apps for everything else, but what about a playstation network app? theres apps to support googles gtalk and google's youtube why not a playstation network app? i really dont care the xbox integration since i have a ps3
That would depend on if MS wants to support a rival gaming platform. Possibly, if they wanted to draw more people into the phone and thus the ecosystem, picking up new xboxers along the way.
Possibly not if the benefits/profit/new users versus the detriments are not heavily weighted toward the beneficial side. But many who own the PS3 also have an Xbox. I, personally, have neither. But, if I ever bought one, it'd be an Xbox. I'm just not gonna pay $500-$600 for a video game console (PS3).
I don't think there is anything stopping someone from creating an app but as far as native support I believe there is no chance in hell it's going to happen. This is about ecosystems and Microsoft has their own.
Eventually as WP7 gains traction Sony will have to address it with some type of App. I wouldn't expect gaming integration with PS3 because XBL is deeply rooted in.
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That would depend on if MS wants to support a rival gaming platform. Possibly, if they wanted to draw more people into the phone and thus the ecosystem, picking up new xboxers along the way.
Possibly not if the benefits/profit/new users versus the detriments are not heavily weighted toward the beneficial side. But many who own the PS3 also have an Xbox. I, personally, have neither. But, if I ever bought one, it'd be an Xbox. I'm just not gonna pay $500-$600 for a video game console (PS3).
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ps3 is $299 now
I think he meant the PlayStation Suite App, just like the one for iPhone/iPod Touch and Android. The only thing the app does is let you see who's online and what are they playing, some news, blogs, and media stuff.
It depends on either Sony and Microsoft whether they should build an app for WP7, but the PS Suite app you see on iPod/iPhones doesn't let you play PS games, its rather like a social app, so Sony might develop one for WP7 and Microsoft might approve it as well since it will less likely/have no affect on gaming on WP7.
Just think of it as the IGN app on WP7.
http://anewdomain.net/2012/04/26/ap...-wozniak-why-i-love-my-windows-phone-7-5-fan/
He loves everything. Even getting in line to buy a iphone.
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Obviously, he is the 1%
He still uses a iPhone. It's his choice, he lives a free and easy life now.
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That is a completely false statement. The thing that Woz loves more is barbecue restaurants. If you follow him, almost 100% of his foursquare checks come from these places.
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Woz is a great man. He truly was the genius behind Apple. I can't stand Jobs but I totally admire Woz.
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Woz is a great man. He truly was the genius behind Apple. I can't stand Jobs but I totally admire Woz.
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Without Woz (and after him, PARC, Jonathan Ive, Scott Forstall, etc), there would be no Apple, true. Without Jobs, Apple wouldn't be Apple, though. We saw how the company foundered, marginalized and distracted, when not under his leadership. (Fifteen hundred different models of indistinguishable Performa/LC/PowerMac models; overpriced underperforming Newtons; rebadged Canon printers; OpenDoc; Taligent/Pink/Copland ...)
I know Woz (not well, but I have met him in person (through John "Cap'n Crunch" Draper, back when The Cap'n was flinging 3.5" disks of PGP around raves). I love Woz. I was an Apple IIe/IIgs user back in the day. But Woz' contributions were of a day. All too quickly, the bare-metal hacks of elegance Woz excelled at -- nybble disk reading routines with 1:1 interleave; tricky hi-res NTSC video output -- they just weren't necessary anymore.
I think it's telling that Jobs went on to usher into the world standard-setting new gadgets until his dying days, whereas Woz tried to launch a universal remote control, put together some jam sessions, and then basically retired to teach middle school kids and play around on his Segway and other new gadgets -- all of them engineered by other people.
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I think it's telling that Jobs went on to usher into the world standard-setting new gadgets until his dying days, whereas Woz tried to launch a universal remote control, put together some jam sessions, and then basically retired to teach middle school kids and play around on his Segway and other new gadgets -- all of them engineered by other people.
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Jobs was a charismatic mascot who used his companies perceived underdog status, marketing acumen and relationship with mass media providers to generate massive amounts of undeserved hype for his average at best products.
The biggest standards set by apple while Jobs was in charge was patent trolling and
frivolous lawsuits.
Good on Woz for not being a fanboi.
Any comments? I personally have been a Microsoft fan all my life, but after hearing what they're planning to implement on the Xbox One, I'm definitely going with the PS4. The DRM practices and always-online policies are a huge turn-off for me, and always having the Kinect microphone and camera plugged in is also a bit worrisome. Might just have to switch to Linux as well if this is the direction in which Microsoft is planning on going.
I was a huge fan of the Playstation 1 and 2, but then the 360 came along and I loved it; mainly because of the controller. And to be honest, that was a good enough reason to pass on the PS3. With the Xbox One however, the controller is just not a good enough reason to upgrade. I mean, I've liked the direction Microsoft went in in the last few years with the kinect and all but this "always connected" bull and the lack of focus towards gaming and becoming more of a media entertainment center really grinds my gears. Not to mention xbox live being the biggest ripoff ever.
At this point in time I would rather go for the PS4, despite the controller. Sigh, I wish my hands were smaller.
I'm with you on the drm issue they are trying to do. If you lose internet connection for more than 24hrs you will not be able to play your game offline. If you have time Warner you know this is possible.
I loved how Sony punched Xbox in the no no area with the video "how to share ps4 games" lol
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My internet doesn't always work (whose does?) So I'm going with
Ps4!!!
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Be sure to watch the E3 press conference. The Microsoft side that is. It reveals a lot more about the Xbox One. Don't drop your opinion of Microsoft until you've watched it and clear up all of your wariness.
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PS4 hands down. If it comes in at the rumored sub400 price tag I'll be getting it for sure.
Yeah, price tag is a big issue for me. At this point, I'm unlikely to get either straight out of the gate, because the new features aren't important enough for me to shift off my 360 and PS3.
If they were sub-300 or offered backwards compatibility, I'd be tempted. As it stands... meh. Maybe after the price drops. And I figure out 3 or 4 games that won't come out with my current consoles that fall into the "will definitely buy" category, rather than just the "that'd be nice... someday" group.
I'm saving up my money for nexus 5 and ps4
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The executive from Microsoft said on camera....if you don't have an internet connection they have a product that will play offline games ...the 360 lol
One note is that the PSN will be a subscription fee now if you want to have access to online content of the game.
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The executive from Microsoft said on camera....if you don't have an internet connection they have a product that will play offline games ...the 360 lol
One note is that the PSN will be a subscription fee now if you want to have access to online content of the game.
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I think you got the story wrong (Or I wasn't updated) but PSN will be free. The way you or other users pay for PSN is by taxes (if you haven't noticed there are some content that are charged with tax) and the PSN Plus subscription.
The PSN Plus Subscription gives you access to exclusive content, if you are not a member you cannot get exclusive discounts or exclusive demos. PSN plus in no way will affect any DLC or content from third party companies.
http://spong.com/article/29781/E3-2013-PS4-Multiplayer-Apparently-Locked-Behind-PlayStation-Plus
PS3 multiplayer still free, PS4 multiplayer for PS+ members.
Playstation v xbox =Ps wins every time. Had both,now have two xboxs that don't work and a ps3 nearly two years old and works like the day it come out the box. Microsoft are to cheap to make a reliable games con and they no it. Love the xbox but was so cheaply made its not worth wasting money on the new one. :thumbdown:
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i still got my ps3 phat 80 gigs got it for 500 preordered that was when 2009? and it still works fine unlicke my xbox had to replace every 6 moths good thing i bought extended warranty right now got a summer job at taco bell saving up for the ps4 and the next nexus rocking my nexus 4
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