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I just recently unlocked and flashed my Cingular 8125 to the latest TNT Rom however, I began noticing dropped sms. I just would never receive them!!! and i wouldn't receive any until i started texting again. So then i flashes 2.47 radio rom, however nothing has improved. I still randomly stop receiving sms and can't figure when or why it happens!!
Anyone have this issue? or have a solution?
i flashed the radio rom down 2.25.11 from Cingular however i'm still having issues with not receiving sms. im starting to think that this might a setting or phone/rom issue...
testing 2.19 now...
2.19 uk works excellently, but living in the bay area it eats a lot of battery going through the bart tunnels. and just in idle the phone loses an ungodly amount of battery.
yeah i changed to 2.19 and its great!!! no missed sms at all!!
although I do drop a bar or two or more here and there, and in places where i normally had all bars, but no loss in call quality or dropped calls.
I am running a ROM based on the HTC Official Wm6.1 (5.2.19212, WWE 3.29.707.0). I noticed this behaviour last week but put it down to a random glitch, however today in the same scenario I have hit the same issue.
I have been working in a basement where there is little or no GSM coverage - GSM icon says 'No service' when clicked. I was working there for a few hours so the Kaiser was like this for the whole time. When I eventually finished and got back above ground the GSM icon registered a few bars and I could make a call. There was no audio though - the screen displayed 'Connected' and adjusting the volume did nothing for the audio of the call. The resolution was to soft-reset the Kaiser and then everything was OK.
I had the same behaviour last week when I was working at the same place, but last week I just thought it was a random glitch, todays repeat makes me think it is something more.
Any ideas?
Andy
ADB100 said:
I am running a ROM based on the HTC Official Wm6.1 (5.2.19212, WWE 3.29.707.0). I noticed this behaviour last week but put it down to a random glitch, however today in the same scenario I have hit the same issue.
I have been working in a basement where there is little or no GSM coverage - GSM icon says 'No service' when clicked. I was working there for a few hours so the Kaiser was like this for the whole time. When I eventually finished and got back above ground the GSM icon registered a few bars and I could make a call. There was no audio though - the screen displayed 'Connected' and adjusting the volume did nothing for the audio of the call. The resolution was to soft-reset the Kaiser and then everything was OK.
I had the same behaviour last week when I was working at the same place, but last week I just thought it was a random glitch, todays repeat makes me think it is something more.
Any ideas?
Andy
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Flash a 1.65.xx.xx radio!
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Flash a 1.65.xx.xx radio!
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Radio is 1.65.20.29.....
Plus it is security unlocked and HardSPL'd using HardSPL 3.56 from JockyW
That's a good radio, usually. Maybe reinstall the radio or have you tried other 65 radios?
Maybe this will help, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=no+audio&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images
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That's a good radio, usually. Maybe reinstall the radio or have you tried other 65 radios?
Maybe this will help, http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=no+audio&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=images
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It's going to be a bit difficult to test as I am not likely to be working there again for a while.....
I'll keep an eye on it and see if it occurs again under any different circumstances.
I did search prior to posting......
Andy
Hmm, it's happened again but different circumstances...
This has just happened again however the circumstances were different. There was no loss of GSM signal, however I did have the GPS & WiFi enabled prior to it failing. I made a call but I didn't hear any ringing, it then said connected but there was no audio. I soft-reset and it is now working again.
I have since enabled WiFi and started TomTom and tested it again and it is working so it doesn't seem consistent.
I upgraded the Radio at the weekend to 1.65.24.36 so this has happened on two different radio versions as well.
Has anyone else seen this behaviour? Is it possible the Kaiser is faulty? (I don't think so, but you never know?)
Andy
ADB100 said:
This has just happened again however the circumstances were different. There was no loss of GSM signal, however I did have the GPS & WiFi enabled prior to it failing. I made a call but I didn't hear any ringing, it then said connected but there was no audio. I soft-reset and it is now working again.
I have since enabled WiFi and started TomTom and tested it again and it is working so it doesn't seem consistent.
I upgraded the Radio at the weekend to 1.65.24.36 so this has happened on two different radio versions as well.
Has anyone else seen this behaviour? Is it possible the Kaiser is faulty? (I don't think so, but you never know?)
Andy
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there is anohther thread that seems related.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352906
Might prove to be a good place to see if any of your issues are related. Still no fix, unfortunately . . .
I think its related to 3G
I live in area where there is no 3G coverage(ATT sucks!) so I have to turn off 3G functionality in the phone. If I keep 3G mode on then everything works fine but I get the same problem of no audio.
So I suggest try turning off 3G mode when you get this problem and see if this fixed the issue.
Hope that helps,
Regards,
Hardik
I've had this happen twice on AT&T in the last two weeks with official released ROM 1.62.502.0, 1.27.14.09 radio. Both times it happened after I was in an area with sketchy coverage, then returned to good coverage. It was also in a 3G coverage area that would go back and forth between 3G and 2G.
I have a friend who has the same stock ROM and radio, AT&T Tilt phone, who this happens to all the time. He believes it happens when his phone goes to G, and then back to E. Typically that happens if you are close to losing a signal, the phone reverts to GPRS, then bounces back up to EDGE.
I just tried an experiment with some aluminum foil wrapped around the phone to attenuate the signal and bring it back, and couldn't reproduce it. But I don't have 3G here today, so no idea if this is some kind of interaction with 3G.
I don't see any correlation between this and the other thread where the phone ringer is going to zero volume. For me this is complete silence on the call in both directions, even though the phone says connected. When you dial a number, you don't even hear the ringback tone while the phone is ringing on the other end. The other person cannot here you.
One odd thing - I tried to play an MP3 file when the phone was in this state, and heard nothing. I toggled the system volume up and down, to mute, to vibrate, back to full, it didn't make any difference -- still no sound.
thedogger said:
I've had this happen twice on AT&T in the last two weeks with official released ROM 1.62.502.0, 1.27.14.09 radio. Both times it happened after I was in an area with sketchy coverage, then returned to good coverage. It was also in a 3G coverage area that would go back and forth between 3G and 2G.
I have a friend who has the same stock ROM and radio, AT&T Tilt phone, who this happens to all the time. He believes it happens when his phone goes to G, and then back to E. Typically that happens if you are close to losing a signal, the phone reverts to GPRS, then bounces back up to EDGE.
I just tried an experiment with some aluminum foil wrapped around the phone to attenuate the signal and bring it back, and couldn't reproduce it. But I don't have 3G here today, so no idea if this is some kind of interaction with 3G.
I don't see any correlation between this and the other thread where the phone ringer is going to zero volume. For me this is complete silence on the call in both directions, even though the phone says connected. When you dial a number, you don't even hear the ringback tone while the phone is ringing on the other end. The other person cannot here you.
One odd thing - I tried to play an MP3 file when the phone was in this state, and heard nothing. I toggled the system volume up and down, to mute, to vibrate, back to full, it didn't make any difference -- still no sound.
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Yes, this sounds like exactly the same issue I am seeing. The volume drop to zero is something different - I can move the volume slider up and down when this happens and there is no audio in or out, the only resolution is to soft-reset.
At least it sounds like it isn't a faulty Kaiser
How do you go about raising this as an issue with HTC in an attempt to get them to fix it?
Cheers
Andy
I am also having this loss of sound issue. In a very unscientific test, I seem to have narrowed it down to my use of voice command. By any chance are you using voice command? I turned completely off via the settings and have not had the issue in almost a week. Prior to that it was almost a daily occurrence.
Yes, I have been using MS Voicecommand. Maybe there is a particular build at fault. Last time I had this problem was earlier today, with MS voicecommand 1.6.19209.Bengalih.
I'll try running without Microsoft Voicecommand at all in a fresh ROM for a while, see if that changes anything.
This sounds like the issue discussed here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=392606 - and here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390977 - discussion in both threads have died for there was no solution found yet... I had to switch back to Hermes but still keeping the Tilt in the hope that there will be a solution that will bring it back into the usable state.
I've found the latest JB radio update to be far worse than the original radio that came with the phone in terms of texting and calling in medium/low signal situations. In fact, most calls disconnect after a few seconds and most texts fail to send while other phones have no problems.
How have you guys found the latest radio update (K3) to be?
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I've found the latest JB radio update to be far worse than the original radio that came with the phone in terms of texting and calling in medium/low signal situations. In fact, most calls disconnect after a few seconds and most texts fail to send while other phones have no problems.
How have you guys found the latest radio update (K3) to be?
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I think there is a thread about this already, but I'm with you. I had 6 dropped calls in one day after the update in an area I used to be able to use my phone no problem. Verizon told Mr I had to turn on GPS and Verizon location services for there network to "find me" to use there network. When that obviously didn't work they are sending me a replacement phone.
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Hmmm...I'm actually getting more bars in my room now than I had when I was on the original radio, that I had from my pre-ordered phone. I also haven't had any dropped calls either.
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Hmmm...I'm actually getting more bars in my room now than I had when I was on the original radio, that I had from my pre-ordered phone. I also haven't had any dropped calls either.
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I've realized that bars mean absolutely nothing with this phone - I mean, sure, number of bars usually don't reflect the real signal meter but with this phone, but on this phone, it really means NOTHING. It will give me 3 bars while if you go to the status of the phone, it says No service and a call cannot be made. Might have a few bars but texts immediately fail repeatedly....
Drives me nuts.
I thought it had gotten worse, but I tried the HE and the K1 and they equally were sucking for me now too. I'm not actually losing connection to the network but it continously drops from 3 bars to 1 or 3G just sitting or in my pocket.
I love this phone, but am hating the data reception that seems to be getting worse for me.
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I've realized that bars mean absolutely nothing with this phone - I mean, sure, number of bars usually don't reflect the real signal meter but with this phone, it really means NOTHING. It will give me 3 bars while if you go to the status of the phone, it says No service and a call cannot be made. Might have a few bars but texts immediately fail repeatedly....
Drives me nuts.
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The Verizon rep told me the same thing that the bars mean nothing. I don't pay attention to the bars or the dbm, I just load a webpage and see how it crawls suddenly. If I feel like I'm back on my Droid Incredible, I notice there must be an issue.
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I thought it had gotten worse, but I tried the HE and the K1 and they equally were sucking for me now too. I'm not actually losing connection to the network but it continously drops from 3 bars to 1 or 3G just sitting or in my pocket.
I love this phone, but am hating the data reception that seems to be getting worse for me.
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The Verizon rep told me the same thing that the bars mean nothing. I don't pay attention to the bars or the dbm, I just load a webpage and see how it crawls suddenly. If I feel like I'm back on my Droid Incredible, I notice there must be an issue.
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I find the best radio for voice to be I5 - the first JB leak. I find the difference to be extremely noticeable. HOWEVER, on the downside - I feel the 4G isn't as strong/drops to 3g/1x more often? Not sure.
Nightwind Hawk said:
I've realized that bars mean absolutely nothing with this phone - I mean, sure, number of bars usually don't reflect the real signal meter but with this phone, it really means NOTHING. It will give me 3 bars while if you go to the status of the phone, it says No service and a call cannot be made. Might have a few bars but texts immediately fail repeatedly....
Drives me nuts.
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Yeah, you're right that bars really mean nothing, but I was just saying that it shows more after my update. But like I said, I haven't had dropped calls yet. I will find out more as I travel in the next few days.
I haven't had any dropped calls on the new radio.
The new radio actually works a lot better than many of the old ones. I concluded that HE was the best radio for my device, however upon flashing K3, I stopped experiencing 4G data drops and the 4G/3G handoff has gotten significantly better..so for me, its been pretty good
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Hi guys
I've tried researching this issue from time to time but have never been able to find any definitive information. A couple of threads around the traps detailing similar problems, but that's it. Anyway, what happens is this: the phone will be showing a couple of bars or whatever, but there actually isn't any signal at all. Calls can be initiated, but wont actually connect, and then can't be ended either. The only way to resolve the issue is to reboot the phone, or activate airplane mode and then deactivate it again (which tends to take considerably longer than a simple reboot). I'm calling it a radio crash because that's what it seems to be, but I could of course be wrong about what is actually going on under the hood.
This post is basically part of an effort to diagnose the problem before I decide what this phone's future will be (have a new, different model on the way now).
Thanks for reading, and any advice/information will be much appreciated
It sounds as if you have a defective phone, or it could be you carrier.
Have you tried a different phone.
Do other people have the same problem with that carrier
You could also think of it like this, carrier problem, you can connect to wifi if it doesnt have internet connection, it still can show full bars but nothing will load
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I have an SGS3 now, with the same SIM in it (cut down to micro of course). Average signal strength (as reported by third party apps that don't pad) is about the same, but no dropouts at all (as monitored and reported by the No Signal Alert app). However the SGS3 supports both my carrier frequencies, and the Atrix 2 doesn't. Having said that, the SGS3 seems to stay on 2100MHz all the time anyway where I am.
I've also put a different SIM in my Atrix 2, from a network that is more compatible (850/2100), and although the dropouts are less frequent, they are still occurring. However, I haven't had a "radio driver crash" in over a week. The dropouts have only been momentary too, lasting no more than a few seconds, 1-3 times per day (mostly in the afternoon).
I'm also planning to charge the phone up and leave it at a couple of other locations for a day or two while continuing to monitor signal interruptions. Should be interesting.
Thanks for the reply
Just a quick update: left the phone at another location for a few days where the average signal strength is stronger, and not a single dropout was logged during that time. In certain areas this phone is obviously not as good as some others at maintaining a signal, but I don't think the dropouts themselves are indicative of a fault given this new information.
The previous instances of radio lockups/crashes are still haunting me a little, but this strange phenomenon is still yet to occur again. I also forgot to mention that I'd previously done a full restoration of the official 4.0.4 ICS release in order to return to the phone completely to stock, which might have something to do with that. Previously it was rooted, with only some minor modifications, but I guess it's not beyond the realm of possibility.
Wait i have an idea
Send me your apn data.
Motorola doesnt have the best antennas either.
Also does it crash at a certain time after it is turned on or is it random?
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I have read through the FAQs and seen several posts from users of other phones and other networks with the same issue, but there has not been an answer to be found.
I've experienced this issue with 4 different ROMs now, so it's not ROM-based. I've tried 3 different radios, so it's not likely modem-based.
The issue is that I will get voicemail notifications for calls I miss, but I'm sitting at my desk with my phone and it didn't ring, nor is there a missed call indication. 5 minutes later, someone else might call me and the call comes through fine. It appears to be purely random. People who call me sometimes get through, sometimes not. It's not the same person who can't get through, or the same network.
Does anyone have an idea what is happening?
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I have read through the FAQs and seen several posts from users of other phones and other networks with the same issue, but there has not been an answer to be found.
I've experienced this issue with 4 different ROMs now, so it's not ROM-based. I've tried 3 different radios, so it's not likely modem-based.
The issue is that I will get voicemail notifications for calls I miss, but I'm sitting at my desk with my phone and it didn't ring, nor is there a missed call indication. 5 minutes later, someone else might call me and the call comes through fine. It appears to be purely random. People who call me sometimes get through, sometimes not. It's not the same person who can't get through, or the same network.
Does anyone have an idea what is happening?
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Your description definitely sounds familiar. There are times when the phone was under clothing or left on vibrate, then there are those back to back instances where you notice because the first call went straight to voicemail and the next one gets through.
Ideas? Maybe not, but there may be some clues worth considering. Every wireless carrier I've used suffers dead spots where you are 99% guaranteed to have your call drop in progress driving by.
Locally (NJ) AT&T has 2 on the westbound "covered roadway" leading to the skyway. My point is I've observed where they won't affect my passenger's TMobile calls. Oddly, when I experience this there, the call has usually gone on uninterrupted through the Holland Tunnel. Must be an infrastructure quirk.
The drive by carrier dead zone is a fixed location call deterrent. An expert could probably say how much each example is based on tower locations versus radio interference. I guess a similar scenario might be possible wherein the call recipient is stationary, like at your desk, and some moving interference breaks a fragile tower connection. I have to say it seems a lot less prevalent with SR vs. previous smartphones and with my current ROM / Modem vs. former ones.
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Your description definitely sounds familiar. There are times when the phone was under clothing or left on vibrate, then there are those back to back instances where you notice because the first call went straight to voicemail and the next one gets through.
Ideas? Maybe not, but there may be some clues worth considering. Every wireless carrier I've used suffers dead spots where you are 99% guaranteed to have your call drop in progress driving by.
Locally (NJ) AT&T has 2 on the westbound "covered roadway" leading to the skyway. My point is I've observed where they won't affect my passenger's TMobile calls. Oddly, when I experience this there, the call has usually gone on uninterrupted through the Holland Tunnel. Must be an infrastructure quirk.
The drive by carrier dead zone is a fixed location call deterrent. An expert could probably say how much each example is based on tower locations versus radio interference. I guess a similar scenario might be possible wherein the call recipient is stationary, like at your desk, and some moving interference breaks a fragile tower connection. I have to say it seems a lot less prevalent with SR vs. previous smartphones and with my current ROM / Modem vs. former ones.
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Thanks. No, this is definitely chronic and not related to dead spots. I have my phone with me at my desk, 3 or 4 bars, no issues. Just doesn't come in. It's been really bad since moving to the JB ROMs. It pretty much never happened without explanation (dead zone, etc.) when I was on ICS and earlier. :/
One other performance problem that my Captivate had resembled this.
When I complained to Customer Service, they did some kind of remote (non-destructive) "reset" of my account. That corrected the random call drops I had reported then.
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pc103 said:
One other performance problem that my Captivate had resembled this.
When I complained to Customer Service, they did some kind of remote (non-destructive) "reset" of my account. That corrected the random call drops I had reported then.
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Were you dropping calls midstream, or not receiving calls? My problem is with not receiving calls when I'm somewhere I usually do and at times when my cell service looks fine (adequate bars).
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Were you dropping calls midstream, or not receiving calls? My problem is with not receiving calls when I'm somewhere I usually do and at times when my cell service looks fine (adequate bars).
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Now that you mention, I recall it was a mix. Bars were good, some calls were silently missed, others FCd the phone app while ringing in, forcing reboot. Good, stable calls surrounded the (<5%) failed ones. AT&T's account reset corrected both issues. Stock ROM back then was Éclair or Froyo.