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[Q] Sleep/black screen of death?

What is it exactly?
I think I may be getting it since sometimes I would leave my phone on the charger (Stock charger and battery) and I would wake up to find my phone blank and none responsive. This occurred back when I used CM7 Nightlies. Now I'm using Weapon G2X and its happened once to me.
Black screen of death?
Sometimes I reboot my phone but it gets stuck at a black screen and the backlight turns off and on. (I would have to remove my battery multiple times to get it to work because this keeps happening)
Is there a fix for this?
Also one more thing, why does it take so long for Weapon G2X 3.0 R1 to boot?

i'm running the same rom and mine doesn't take long at all ... past the initial time .. to boot up sorry know it don't help but maybe it's something else thats causeing it i can't find a kernel that runs stable with it i've tried a couple and still looking ...
edit:did u clear the caches before loading the new roms? i know that can cause problems with the new rom loaded

zhetswai said:
i'm running the same rom and mine doesn't take long at all ... past the initial time .. to boot up sorry know it don't help but maybe it's something else thats causeing it i can't find a kernel that runs stable with it i've tried a couple and still looking ...
edit:did u clear the caches before loading the new roms? i know that can cause problems with the new rom loaded
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I tried technically all ROMs and kernels, SOD issue still happens to me until I started using the charger from a stupid phone Kyocera with output 350 mA, I haven't had issues for a week. Anytime I try back with original charger or a charger with 750 mA then SOD comes back. Charging time is not bad either, try it. Hope it helps

Randomly shutting off

For some reason my sensation appears to have gotten into the habit of randomly turning itself off, and I can't figure out why.
It's rooted, and was using InsertCoin's GB rom for a bit until ICS roms got more stable. I've tried InsertCoin's ICS rom and also Virtuous Inquisition, and had been using the 3.24 firmware. I'm also using an anker battery that's three months old.
I first noticed the random shut downs on the ICS InsertCoin rom, but I'd been using it for a few weeks before it started happening, no apps had been changed or updated at around that time, it simply started shutting off. No menus or dialogs, just an instant loss of power, and could happen at any time, in my pocket when sleeping, in a call, or otherwise active in my hand. Totally random. I could turn it back on, but more often that not it'd just die again within a few seconds of finishing the bootanimation. It appeared to happen most when the battery level was below say 50%. The only thing that seemed to stop it at the time was plugging it into a power source, as then it'd be fine.
Thinking it could have been down to the rom's power management stuff (and me getting sick of the frequent sense reboots anyway), I then tried another rom, Virtuous Inquisition. And as soon as I'd flashed that and set all my apps up again (backups created while using the ICS InsertCoin rom right before flashing the new rom), it ran perfectly for weeks. So that seemed to suggest it was the old rom to blame.
Except recently the random shutdowns have started again, exactly the same behaviour as before. I then thought it could have been the SebastianFM undervolted kernels if my phone didn't like being undervolted, but flashing the regular ones made no difference either. I then found the new 3.30 firmware was available a few days ago, so flashed that. The phone instantly ran a bit quicker and had better mobile and gps reception, and it didn't seem to shut down randomly again. Until today that is.
What the hell could it be? It can't really be software because I've tried different roms, though they're probably based off the same leak. But if it was the rom, why haven't more people reported this issue? I've also tried different kernels and firmware, which haven't helped stop it shutting off either. I've checked the battery terminals and there isn't a loose connection, but could it be the battery itself at fault? Thinking about it, I fitted the anker battery before this started happening, but I'd had it a few weeks before the shutdowns started happening. I've not tried putting the standard battery back in yet as I quite like my battery lasting a day, but I suppose it's worth a shot if for some reason my anker is a dud. Is there any way I could check it?
What are your thoughts? I really want to get to the bottom of it...

StuartTheFish said:
For some reason my sensation appears to have gotten into the habit of randomly turning itself off, and I can't figure out why.
It's rooted, and was using InsertCoin's GB rom for a bit until ICS roms got more stable. I've tried InsertCoin's ICS rom and also Virtuous Inquisition, and had been using the 3.24 firmware. I'm also using an anker battery that's three months old.
I first noticed the random shut downs on the ICS InsertCoin rom, but I'd been using it for a few weeks before it started happening, no apps had been changed or updated at around that time, it simply started shutting off. No menus or dialogs, just an instant loss of power, and could happen at any time, in my pocket when sleeping, in a call, or otherwise active in my hand. Totally random. I could turn it back on, but more often that not it'd just die again within a few seconds of finishing the bootanimation. It appeared to happen most when the battery level was below say 50%. The only thing that seemed to stop it at the time was plugging it into a power source, as then it'd be fine.
Thinking it could have been down to the rom's power management stuff (and me getting sick of the frequent sense reboots anyway), I then tried another rom, Virtuous Inquisition. And as soon as I'd flashed that and set all my apps up again (backups created while using the ICS InsertCoin rom right before flashing the new rom), it ran perfectly for weeks. So that seemed to suggest it was the old rom to blame.
Except recently the random shutdowns have started again, exactly the same behaviour as before. I then thought it could have been the SebastianFM undervolted kernels if my phone didn't like being undervolted, but flashing the regular ones made no difference either. I then found the new 3.30 firmware was available a few days ago, so flashed that. The phone instantly ran a bit quicker and had better mobile and gps reception, and it didn't seem to shut down randomly again. Until today that is.
What the hell could it be? It can't really be software because I've tried different roms, though they're probably based off the same leak. But if it was the rom, why haven't more people reported this issue? I've also tried different kernels and firmware, which haven't helped stop it shutting off either. I've checked the battery terminals and there isn't a loose connection, but could it be the battery itself at fault? Thinking about it, I fitted the anker battery before this started happening, but I'd had it a few weeks before the shutdowns started happening. I've not tried putting the standard battery back in yet as I quite like my battery lasting a day, but I suppose it's worth a shot if for some reason my anker is a dud. Is there any way I could check it?
What are your thoughts? I really want to get to the bottom of it...
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Hi,
Do you have any apps on your sd card?
Apparently,this can cause problems.
Go to settings-->apps-->on sd card and untick anything there...

I do at the moment, but I've tried with all apps on internal memory and it made no difference, the shutdowns still happened. In fact I've found no issues with apps2sd on ICS roms whatsoever.

I had the EXACT same issue with ALL ROMS, GB and ICS. Like you it would begin when the battery was below 50% and everything:/ I just sent it to HTC the other day hopefully it gets fixed. And I doubt it was the battery because i was using the stock battery.
I was thinking about opening a thread about this were everyone would post their setup and every detail possible to get to the bottom of this. But i decided not to since it was most likely a hardware problem and would get flamed since there are already countless threads about someone complaining about this.

Well the stock battery is charging back up now anyway so I'll give it a go. I really don't want to have to send it back though given it's rooted, s-off, etc etc. I don't fancy trying to get it back to stock just to see if they might possibly fix it.

same here
Exactly same problem here with virtuous inquisition 3.5.0 and an banker battery...

A few days on with the standard battery, and no random shut downs yet. It's lasting me a day with moderate use too.

I have the same problem before. Sent back to Bell, and they can't fix it. Then I found this app called Captivate Keep Alive. It take a bit of the battery life and ram, but it solve the problem. The phone never shutdown by itself any more. Hope that helps.

Claimj said:
I have the same problem before. Sent back to Bell, and they can't fix it. Then I found this app called Captivate Keep Alive. It take a bit of the battery life and ram, but it solve the problem. The phone never shutdown by itself any more. Hope that helps.
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damn, this is a good fix but uninstalled because the ongoing notification. I'm not buying the pro version when the developers might come up with a fix in their roms

Same problem here, the problem was more often with the anker battery than with the original battery.
Now i'm back to S-ON and stock roms, it isn't turning off anymore but the problem went over in rebooting...
Only thing i have to do is find an Vodafone RUU for the netherlands , because it was branded and then I will send it back to HTC...
Really annoying... sometimes people ask why they always get your voicemail -> phone turned off in my pocket again...

Claimj said:
I have the same problem before. Sent back to Bell, and they can't fix it. Then I found this app called Captivate Keep Alive. It take a bit of the battery life and ram, but it solve the problem. The phone never shutdown by itself any more. Hope that helps.
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Unfortunately my issue was the other way round. Mine used to do it below 50%, not when fully charged. It also never happened when it was plugged in. It isn't down to the CPU going to sleep, as I could be using the phone at the time it happened, literally just as if the battery was pulled. Then if I turned it back on it would repeatedly shut off again, until plugged back in.
It's still fine on my standard battery by the way.

my dad on bell is experiencing this issue with his Sensation "4g" lol, with stock battery stock rom s-off stock stock stock.
constantly turning off in pocket, never heard of it happening while in use. waiting for ICS update, if it doesnt fix going for warranty.

Yup, if it's not the original battery, then that problem can happen quite often. Not just phones, it's other electronics also. I had a MacBook, I bought a battery from a third party and the computer shut off randomly. Same with an Asus laptop I bought afterwards and changed the battery.

Ok so I've been having this same problem myself since Christmas.. it started happening on my original battery and on various firmwares ,kernels and rims.. so I bought an anker battery..
It was fine then for a week or two but started happening again.. I read oh about 10 different threads on this subject and what works for me to stop this is switching 3g gsm mode from auto to 3g only.. haven't had a problem while this is switched.. coverage in my house isn't great so I hope there is a permenant fix for this soon

Exactly the same problem.. Turns off when in pocket, hand and even when kept aside .
And Everything's stock. Battery, version etc etc.
Still can't figure out what the problem is.

It can also happen with a standard battery if it's faulty. Get HTC to send a replacement.

Mine is still having it... really annoying, even with the new ICS. Everything is stock now.
I also want to send it back to HTC, but I think they are going to test it first... chance is high that it wont shut off then -> phone back and the problem is still there..... That would be an endless story

have you guys seen this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1475602
Seems kind of silly to have two parallel conversations on the same topic...

I had this exact problem on a stock battery with any rom. The fix that worked for me was changing the network settings from Auto WCDMA/GSM to WCDMA only. It was something to do with transition between 2g and 3g.
Bizarre problem and I hope there is a better fix available soon!
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using xda premium

Not happy, I thought it was the battery but it's started doing it again, even with the standard battery instead.
Just had a look, and on my ics ROM I can't find the option to change the wcdma settings, so I can't try that. Not sure how that could cause it though, because it can even shut off while showing the boot animation! The only thing that seems to stop it is plugging it in, meaning it was no longer using the battery. Hence my assumption that the battery was at fault, but I've tried three different batteries on it now and it happened with any of them. Not much chance that all of them have exactly the same fault.
It can't be a loose connection since if it was I wouldn't be able to turn the phone back on in the first place, so what the hell could it be? I don't think I ever had the issue until going to ics, but I've tried different ROM's and the issue didn't go away. I've tried different kernels over time, and also upgraded the firmware and radio a couple of times too. None of which cured it, so I can't see how any of them could be the cause since it happens on all of them.
Any ideas?

[Q] random power-offs???

Hey guys, I was using the miui rom but after a month or so it just kept turning off repeatedly and whatever I tried didn't stop it. I tried wiping dalvik cache, wipe data/factory reset, reflashig the entire rom but it didn't work so after a while I got fed up so I switched back to cm7 but the phone keeps restarting. Are there any solutions?

try a different firmware?

I've been on the same firmware for months. I can't Change it because I am hboot 1.23

Are you also having problems with the battery level jumping around by any chance?

musicman374 said:
are you also having problems with the battery level jumping around by any chance?
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yes. Unfortunately ........

Same problems here...
seems that more and more people are getting those problems.

Niekjuh said:
Same problems here...
seems that more and more people are getting those problems.
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I hope that somebody will find a solution.

Well I've gone a while with arhd and it didn't happen but being sense it was laggy so I went back to miui and its rebooted 8 times in one hour.

I'm having the same problems, and while watching my battery voltage graph, it spikes down a lot, which indicates a bad battery, but it might be kernel. I'm downloading the update for virtuous now and seeing if its fixed. You should flash the update as well. In any case, it'll stop those web browser lockups. Looks like a lot of people are in the same boat here, which is why I'm hesitant to instantly assume its our batteries frying themselves.

I'm not sure about this but I just switched back to my stock battery and it stopped randomly turning off. I went about 3 hours use with no turn offs but I switched back to the banker battery and so far no restarts but I will need to see fully tomorrow. I don't think that it is due to overheating,I was in my garage and its ****ing freezing in there. I went to check the time on my phone and it was off but cold and hadn't been used.
Will just have to see what tomorrow brings.

Random Shutdown..slightly different view on this problem

Update 14/09/2012
Ok, I don't think what I had in mind helped. On 13th, I had multiple shutdown while trying to use cameras and today had multiple shutdown while on the phone to someone.
Think I will try doing something with Firmware next, now have a feel it might be the cause. I have no idea what is wrong, so just going to give with anything really. Will report back soon.
Update: 13/09/2012
After a complete drain the first time, by booting into recovery and bootloader (just want to remind everyone that this is because I can't make my phone boot). Then I left it on charging for the whole night, and I did this through wall charger NOT USB. I think I read it somewhere that they recommended this when calibrating your battery. Then the next day got 1 random shutdown, then I used it until it is completed drain again. Then followed by another full charge using wall charger. Today I have been using it for 6 hours and 21 minutes, haven't had a single problem. I don't know how not doing this would cause the phone to shutdown, but doing what I did seems to be working so far. I can actually rely on it for something now, say important phone calls.
Here was my reply to elvisypi:
Just to answer your question, it would random shutdown (not so much reboot) at anytime, at any battery percentage. I could do be doing anything, using any app, sometimes when I am not even using the phone.
I don't think it's a hardware/battery/ROM/kernel problem, I tried to say that it is a combined problem caused by flashing a phone too many times maybe or too often in a period of time. Also I was just about to update saying that calibrate battery does help. I had no reboot so far and this is only the second full charge and full drain I did.
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Original post 11/09/2012
After reading kushXmaster's post (click here) about how to add an object to help the battery stay in position (or get better connection), I found evidence that my issue was different. Before anyone ask, yes I have tried kushXmaster's idea, and no it did not work for me.
Ok, this is what I found. I had this problem not only with my current phone (htc sensation) but also with my previous phone (htc desire). So now thinking about it, it can't be the hardware problem. Cos the same problem happening to 2 different phones is pretty unlikely, not impossible, but very unlikely. The other thing was that my phones (both) didn't do this at the start when it was new, and it has only been like this a few months later (since I rooted it). For those who already guessed, yes I believe it's the flashing phones which is messing it up. However I don't know the reason or understand what is wrong with the phone. I have tried wipe battery stats and calibration, nothing worked, the only thing I found was when I go back to Sense 4 roms the problem seems better, but it is still there.
The last and most important reason why I am don't think this is a battery or hardware problem, is that my phone boots into bootloader or recovery with no problem (no reboot or shutdown). But when i tell it to boot normally it decides it hates me and turns it self off.
I am currently experiencing this problem, my phone is in recovery and I am waiting for battery to drain completely. Then gonna do calibration from there, hopefully this will work. I will keep you guys updated. Also if anyone has suggestions please leave a comment, and also let me know if anyone else is in the same position, good luck!

If you want to drain your device battery faster or more nicer way put screen timeout to never and like this you can still use your phone normal and drain the battery aswell just a little tip
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.

shahkam said:
If you want to drain your device battery faster or more nicer way put screen timeout to never and like this you can still use your phone normal and drain the battery aswell just a little tip
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
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If I could get it to turn on then I have a lot of ways to drain it quickly, but like I said it won't boot without shutting down before I could do anything. I turn it on, and I see the lock screen then bam it is shut down again.

lavafire said:
If I could get it to turn on then I have a lot of ways to drain it quickly, but like I said it won't boot without shutting down before I could do anything. I turn it on, and I see the lock screen then bam it is shut down again.
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Ohhh sorry didn't get that
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.

To drain battery.. switch on wifi and bluetooth.. thn use 3g for 20 mins.. u will drain compltly
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium

lavafire said:
After reading kushXmaster's post (click here) about how to add an object to help the battery stay in position (or get better connection), I found evidence that my issue was different. Before anyone ask, yes I have tried kushXmaster's idea, and no it did not work for me.
Ok, this is what I found. I had this problem not only with my current phone (htc sensation) but also with my previous phone (htc desire). So now thinking about it, it can't be the hardware problem. Cos the same problem happening to 2 different phones is pretty unlikely, not impossible, but very unlikely. The other thing was that my phones (both) didn't do this at the start when it was new, and it has only been like this a few months later (since I rooted it). For those who already guessed, yes I believe it's the flashing phones which is messing it up. However I don't know the reason or understand what is wrong with the phone. I have tried wipe battery stats and calibration, nothing worked, the only thing I found was when I go back to Sense 4 roms the problem seems better, but it is still there.
The last and most important reason why I am don't think this is a battery or hardware problem, is that my phone boots into bootloader or recovery with no problem (no reboot or shutdown). But when i tell it to boot normally it decides it hates me and turns it self off.
I am currently experiencing this problem, my phone is in recovery and I am waiting for battery to drain completely. Then gonna do calibration from there, hopefully this will work. I will keep you guys updated. Also if anyone has suggestions please leave a comment, and also let me know if anyone else is in the same position, good luck!
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If you get random reboots, shutdowns, than don't even bother to calibrate the battery. It has nothing to do with the calibration. Tell us more info, how do the reboots happen, how often, what are you doing when it happens, etc. It could be a kernel/ROM problem, charger, battery, hardware. Pls give us more detailed info

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Ohhh sorry didn't get that
Sent From My Sexy Sensation.
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No problem, appreciate the help :good:

elvisypi said:
If you get random reboots, shutdowns, than don't even bother to calibrate the battery. It has nothing to do with the calibration. Tell us more info, how do the reboots happen, how often, what are you doing when it happens, etc. It could be a kernel/ROM problem, charger, battery, hardware. Pls give us more detailed info
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Thanks for the tip, but tbh if i know all that I don't really need to be asking anyone. For example, if it is a ROM problem, i just change ROM. The problem is that I don't know the cause and it seems to be everything and anything, it will shut down at different length of time, sometimes when it just starts, others 30 seconds after boot has completed. I am not looking for a solution, I am more wondering what everyone else has experienced when they say they have random reboots or shutdown, because after tones of research no one has provided anything that fixes my problem.
Just to answer your question, it would random shutdown (not so much reboot) at anytime, at any battery percentage. I could do be doing anything, using any app, sometimes when I am not even using the phone.
I don't think it's a hardware/battery/ROM/kernel problem, I tried to say that it is a combined problem caused by flashing a phone too many times maybe or too often in a period of time. Also I was just about to update saying that calibrate battery does help. I had no reboot so far and this is only the second full charge and full drain I did.

I had a same reboot problem and tried the kushXmaster's trick with the business card and did not worked for me either, at the beginning…
There was no reboot or shutdown in bootloader mode in my device either. When I flashed new firmware and ROM the problem was gone, but only for few weeks. I tried multiple ROMs also, but always with the same result. This is why I was skeptic with the business card battery fix also.
But then I read kushXmaster's thread again and put an alu foil as shown by Shreyas Jani and pulled the ground pin as described by StuartTheFish. I still do not understand what happened, but my phone is working perfectly more than a month now, without restarts and shut downs. I do not know which solution helped (not sure if I placed a business card correctly before). But I do not want to experiment with this anymore. I did not even removed a battery cover since that time and I'm glad it is all working now.
Hope this helps.

prgab said:
I had a same reboot problem and tried the kushXmaster's trick with the business card and did not worked for me either, at the beginning…
There was no reboot or shutdown in bootloader mode in my device either. When I flashed new firmware and ROM the problem was gone, but only for few weeks. I tried multiple ROMs also, but always with the same result. This is why I was skeptic with the business card battery fix also.
But then I read kushXmaster's thread again and put an alu foil as shown by Shreyas Jani and pulled the ground pin as described by StuartTheFish. I still do not understand what happened, but my phone is working perfectly more than a month now, without restarts and shut downs. I do not know which solution helped (not sure if I placed a business card correctly before). But I do not want to experiment with this anymore. I did not even removed a battery cover since that time and I'm glad it is all working now.
Hope this helps.
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I experienced exactly what you experienced, when i flash a new ROM it is ok for a while. Then just gets to the stage where it happens again. I also tried almost every single ROM I could find, only sense 4 seemed to help but still didn't solve this problem completely.
Thanks for the help, really useful. If what I am trying now doesn't work then what you suggested will definably be my next hope. Cheers!
Edit: I know what you mean, if it works that back cover is not coming off.

same as you
I experience now typically the same problem as yours.
Did changing firmware helped? And how to do this?

[Q] Sensation not working

Hello,
I am an owner of HTC Sensation, rooted with Android Revolution 7.3.
My phone has ~1,5 years, since its first days i was using Android Revolution ROM, never had any problem.
Today, my phone first lost signal. Itcould not connect to any mobile network so I tried to restart it, when i got back to it after 5 minutes, the phone was stuck on beats audio logo and when i touched it, it felt very hot, it was never that hot even I used it for hours playing some games or browsing internet. (I think it was processor, down side of the phone, below battery, but because of that battery got a bit hotter too) I had to pull off the battery, I've waited till it got cold and tried to run again but rom was not working so i reflashed it from my sd card, after the next restart (phone did not get hot) when phone was checking installed apps, it simply turned itself off. Before battery showed around 80% charged, after reinstall 30% and it happened in max 10 minutes ,but after that shut down I could not turn it on. LED was not working, I tried pulling off battery, charging it, charging without abttery then connecting it, trying to reboot with abs but PC could not see the device.
The only thing I noticed, when i was trying tocharge it for the first time, processor was getting hotter but LED was not working, but then, it simply went cold.
I have no idea what I could do more here, it looks like hardware problem but te only thing i could not check was putting a new battery and try it then. Is there anything I can do more about it?
For any help, thank you.
PS: When the phone 'died' it was using faux123's 1,5 GHz kernel which came with the ROM. AsI said, before this event, everything was working perfectly, no sign of this incoming event. No restarts, freezes or crashes.
*If it matters, i was charging phone every 4-5 days, never let it go below 10%, bettery is from HTC EVO 1730mAh (original).

can you boot to the bootloader?
if yes do it and select from there reboot
see how it goes

rzr86 said:
can you boot to the bootloader?
if yes do it and select from there reboot
see how it goes
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I can do nothing. No reaction.

MarcBliz said:
I can do nothing. No reaction.
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try this
remove battery,sim and sdcard and charge as it is for 4-5 hours
put them back and switht it on
see how it goes
also give it a try with a different battery
if everything fails then try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1522351
i am not sure if you will have much hope but try it anyways

rzr86 said:
try this
remove battery,sim and sdcard and charge as it is for 4-5 hours
put them back and switht it on
see how it goes
also give it a try with a different battery
if everything fails then try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1522351
i am not sure if you will have much hope but try it anyways
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Re-tried these methods, hoped I had done soemthing wrong before. I saw the artice before, was hoping there are different ways to revive the phone. Tried this, says device not found. Looks like the only method would be this JTAG box but it's a bit expensive or try to send it to repair.
Anyway thank you for your time, I appreciate it.
-And if I might ask, any idea why the phone heated up itself on nearly last startup as I mentioned in my thread? It would be allright if the phone just died before this event, now it just makes me think there might be bigger hardware problem which just caused the death and it's not worth repair.