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Difference between Canadian and AT&T One X

So after reading the Engadget review of the One X, I've become intrigued with the differences between the Canadian and AT&T versions of the One X. Searched and didn't see anything referencing this directly. The article says LTE should work fine on both AT&T and Canuck networks.
So, besides saying HTC at the top instead of AT&T and I suppose having Rogers bloatware instead of the usual AT&T crap, is there any other difference?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/01/htc-one-x-for-att-review/

One big difference is the rogers has the ability to toggle lte off which is not the case with the at&t version
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E.Cadro said:
One big difference is the rogers has the ability to toggle lte off which is not the case with the at&t version
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The moment we have a ROM granting that functionality, I am flashing. I do not live in an LTE area
First world problems....
Also, another difference is the ability to tether freely. Not that I use this feature. However, it would be nice.

I believe the AT&T model lacks the ability of a LTE on/off toggle, tethering and a few optings in the camera like time lapse (I think there might be one othere, not sure though).
I think most things we will be able to rip out of the International model or the Rogers model and cram them into the AT&T version. Also, Im sure custom roms will add all of these features back in.

Red5 said:
I believe the AT&T model lacks the ability of a LTE on/off toggle, tethering and a few optings in the camera like time lapse (I think there might be one othere, not sure though).
I think most things we will be able to rip out of the International model or the Rogers model and cram them into the AT&T version. Also, Im sure custom roms will add all of these features back in.
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Sounds good. Well I pre-ordered like most of you and see mine has shipped. Can't wait until tomorrow!

Is there any PHYSICAL difference to the exterior of the AT&T version? Are the phones identical apart from CPU and software?
Cheers!!

nimrod77 said:
Is there any PHYSICAL difference to the exterior of the AT&T version? Are the phones identical apart from CPU and software?
Cheers!!
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isnt the hardware identical? just att has locked some features including the bl...
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nimrod77 said:
Is there any PHYSICAL difference to the exterior of the AT&T version? Are the phones identical apart from CPU and software?
Cheers!!
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cpu's are the same, all hardware is the same.. only difference is software...

Will the ATT LTE work if we put the SIM into the Roger version

leletyM3 said:
Will the ATT LTE work if we put the SIM into the Roger version
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Yes, it will, I have a Rogers One X and used the micro sim from the AT&T One X in it. But the trick is getting them to add the LTE data plan to your account. If you already have an AT&T branded LTE device, then you shouldn't have a problem. But good luck getting them to add an LTE data plan to your account if you don't. They insist on using IMEI numbers now to determine which data plans you can add to the account. Your best bet is to borrow or buy a cheap LTE AT&T phone, get your data plan switched to an LTE one, get a micro sim, get them to activate it on your non-micro sim device ,and then switch the micro SIM to your Rogers One X.
It is possible, just a PITA.

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isnt the hardware identical? just att has locked some features including the bl...
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The AT&T version of the One X has a snapdragon dual core processor as opposed to the international version that has the Nvidia Tegra quad core processor. This is due to the Tegra processor not being compatible with LTE .http://www.att.com/onex/
Does anyone know if the external measurements of the two One X's are the same?
Thanks guys

y2jdmbfan said:
Yes, it will, I have a Rogers One X and used the micro sim from the AT&T One X in it. But the trick is getting them to add the LTE data plan to your account. If you already have an AT&T branded LTE device, then you shouldn't have a problem. But good luck getting them to add an LTE data plan to your account if you don't. They insist on using IMEI numbers now to determine which data plans you can add to the account. Your best bet is to borrow or buy a cheap LTE AT&T phone, get your data plan switched to an LTE one, get a micro sim, get them to activate it on your non-micro sim device ,and then switch the micro SIM to your Rogers One X.
It is possible, just a PITA.
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I am currently on the Unlimited iPhone Data plan, and they switched me over to the LTE Unlimited Plan with an LTE IMEI. I might buy the One X from Rogers Unlocked.
Thanks for the above info, all I wanted to know if the LTE was working.

nimrod77 said:
The AT&T version of the One X has a snapdragon dual core processor as opposed to the international version that has the Nvidia Tegra quad core processor. This is due to the Tegra processor not being compatible with LTE .http://www.att.com/onex/
Does anyone know if the external measurements of the two One X's are the same?
Thanks guys
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Between the LTE ones yes. International and LTE ones are different

Both the Canadian(Rogers) One X and US(AT&T) One X are the Same Device other than the sofware running on it, and the lithographed branding under the glass at the top (one say's htc, the other AT&T printed backwards on the underside of the glass)
Both are the PJ8310000
If there was a variation in the hardware one would have a different digit in this number
like the Telus DHD and Inspire 4G for example
both same device, different housing (for branding) <- why it got the different number
Telus DHD was PD9814000 and the Inspire 4G was PD9812000 (International was PD9810000)
THE CANADIAN AND U.S. ONE X'S ARE THE EXACT SAME DEVICE.
THEY ARE INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN AS THE 'ONE XL'
THE ONLY THING DIFFERENT IS THE SOFTWARE ON IT.
(that includes software customization, rf channel configs, dz data, etc...)
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E.Cadro said:
One big difference is the rogers has the ability to toggle lte off which is not the case with the at&t version
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when you guy's get root, you'll be able to swap the services.jar, services.apk and get the same thing for yourselves.
ps: other than the boot/down annimations - being pointed to by ../CID/default.xml, the 'scene' addidion/layout in ../MNS/default.xml (both the customize folder), and carrier apps, the rogers rom is vanilla.

I'm not familiar with the Rogers software. I'm in the US and eyeing a Rogers version, if I were to get one from say Negri, does it have FREE wifi hotspot?

Not in an LTE area
mikelebz said:
The moment we have a ROM granting that functionality, I am flashing. I do not live in an LTE area
First world problems....
Also, another difference is the ability to tether freely. Not that I use this feature. However, it would be nice.
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From what I have seen, when you are not in an LTE area the LTE is disabled and doesn't kill your battery. It's still be nice to have a toggle though.
For tether, why not just root and use WiFi Tether?

differences.
Hi XDA members n mods and devs! hehe
so I have a really disturbing question and I want to be very2 careful when I buy The HTC one X
my biggest question is how to know if the HOX is AT&T or International version? does it have some kind of logo or something?
second does the AT&T and International version have differences in terms of internal memory?
thanks and please reply quickly? I'm planning to buy this phone next week.^^

GeekaPhone said:
Hi XDA members n mods and devs! hehe
so I have a really disturbing question and I want to be very2 careful when I buy The HTC one X
my biggest question is how to know if the HOX is AT&T or International version? does it have some kind of logo or something?
second does the AT&T and International version have differences in terms of internal memory?
thanks and please reply quickly? I'm planning to buy this phone next week.^^
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AT&T version is dual core, international is quad core. The AT&T version has 16 gigs of storage whereas the international version has 32.

Do you want a AT&T One X in particular or just a Evita from North America?
Rogers, Telus and such all have the same phone but have less restrictions.
Also you could buy an Evita from many places in the world but you need to take care with what LTE frequencies it supports. If you are in NA you should buy a NA phone.

GeekaPhone said:
Hi XDA members n mods and devs! hehe
so I have a really disturbing question and I want to be very2 careful when I buy The HTC one X
my biggest question is how to know if the HOX is AT&T or International version? does it have some kind of logo or something?
second does the AT&T and International version have differences in terms of internal memory?
thanks and please reply quickly? I'm planning to buy this phone next week.^^
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System Settings > about phone > hardware information
Should say at the top Dual Core or Quad Core. Dual Core is the AT&T, Rogers, Telstra One XL.
This post was created and transmitted completely in analog.

[Q] ROMs for the international XL?

Hi all,
I'm looking at getting either a One X or One XL, and one thing I'm not sure about with the latter is if ROMs for the AT&T "X" are usable on the international XL. The difference being the AT&T one has 16 GB and the international version (which AFIK Australia and SE Asia gets) has 32 GB.
I should also mention I'm new to ROMs as well - I never bothered with my previous Android phone, figuring I'd play around with that once I got a new one. Wouldn't want to brick the only phone I had.
Also, are stock ROMs from HTC available? Where would we find them? A local user (Singapore) has gotten his phone, and posted on a local tech forum that there's bloatware from all our local telcos on it, not just the one he was using. Figure I might want to ease myself into this by starting with a stock ROM.

Different phones. Please dont cross flash on your phone or you will have a brick. Choose your phone and look at the appropriate forum

I believe all S4 based One X's are compatible with the development going on in this forum.

The only phones compatible with these forums are the following:
AT&T One X
Rogers One XL
Telstra One XL
International One XL
You will probably see more AT&T RUUs here as that is what the majority of the users are using here.
And the ROMs work on any version, but Radios and APN (access point names) you may have to set up yourself (if the ROM says so)

rohan32 said:
The only phones compatible with these forums are the following:
AT&T One X
Rogers One XL
Telstra One XL
International One XL
You will probably see more AT&T RUUs here as that is what the majority of the users are using here.
And the ROMs work on any version, but Radios and APN (access point names) you may have to set up yourself (if the ROM says so)
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Thanks. Does HTC make the stock RUU(?) available for their phones? I've been looking but haven't found it yet.

International buyers beware!!!

Hi,
Now, if you are an international buyer and you thinking of getting the AT&T HOX, here is some information you should be aware of:
1. Do not buy manufacturer refurbished. Apparently AT&T are relocking those phones and you cannot get the unlock codes anywhere. Period! I have the HOX and all I can do is stare at it since an unlock code is not available.
I had started another thread on the same here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1841609
2. Devs are working on a method here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694553
If you are interested, you could act as a tester. Better yet, we should start a bounty for this...
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!l

You could of turned your old thread into this one
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Didnt think of that. Sorry.
Let me add a link to the previous thread

Good Info. Should be stickied

I'm using a unlocked att HTC one x ..in India. M I in Trouble too ??
Sent from my One X using xda premium

Thanks for the heads up!

I dont get what this thread is even really about.
AT&T One X is locked. That is well known.
Why would international buyers be interested in refurbed AT&T stock versus refurb other stock?
The exact same applies for importing brand new stock.
I doubt the typical international user is at all interested in buying AT&T stock new or old. They would be typically buying local stock or from markets known to be open, eg everything else.
AT&T new = locked
AT&T old = locked
That is well known through the other million threads and blogs about it, how is this thread news to anyone? If they didnt find the other million posts and blogs, they wont find this one either...
This thread offers no new info its just a rehash on the fact AT&T One X is locked.

I think he is trying to say that there is no IMEI unlock for AT&T refurbished One X?
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why an international user would buy a US branded phone and want to unlock it rather than buying an unlocked model is what I'm struggling with.

Hmmm comparing with international One X, the ATT branded One X is cheaper I guess..
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda app-developers app

Yeah the at&t is a lot cheaper. Plus for me, benches matter a lot. The quad international version is on the same level as the dual s4 version. And the s4 actually beats the quad in some benches....

briankariu said:
Yeah the at&t is a lot cheaper. Plus for me, benches matter a lot. The quad international version is on the same level as the dual s4 version. And the s4 actually beats the quad in some benches....
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The phone known as the AT&T One X is sold international as the HTC One XL in Germany, Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia, Canada and possibly other markets. In Germany and Australia it actually has 32gb internal storage instead of 16gb.
All of this is already in many reviews, blogs, XDA threads and plastered all over the net.
Users would just buy the phone from those markets if they want an unlocked phone.
The AT&T version being locked and only having 16gb internal storage makes sense to why you might find it cheaper.
It is not news that AT&T One X is locked, it has been very widely reported.
If a user confuses what an International One X, AT&T One X or a HTC One XL is they have not done anywhere near enough research to be importing or unlocking phones.
One more thread in XDA is not going to help those foolish enough to have clearly not done their homework on what they are buying.
It's like the users that come in weekly crying because they tried to flash ROM's for the international One X on to their One XL after the huge amounts of warnings not to do that. It's sad that people have destroyed their expensive phone but they are doing it to themselves by being lazy and not reading first.

Does 3G work fine?
sanchitgrover said:
I'm using a unlocked att HTC one x ..in India. M I in Trouble too ??
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i am thinking of getting unlocked AT&T version of HTC One X to India...
Arey you facing any problem with the phone...especially Android updates and 3G connectivity?? Please let me know...it will of gr8 help..Thank You..

I do a lot of research before purchasing anything....
@chaitanya if you get it unlocked, no problem. And if your carrier supports the at&t bands for 3g, you will get 3g

briankariu said:
I do a lot of research before purchasing anything....
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Aren't you stuck with a locked AT&T One X that you cant use?

twistedddx said:
Aren't you stuck with a locked AT&T One X that you cant use?
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Touché...i thought unlocking it would be a breeze

briankariu said:
I do a lot of research before purchasing anything....
@chaitanya if you get it unlocked, no problem. And if your carrier supports the at&t bands for 3g, you will get 3g
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Seller confirmed that it is fully unlocked ...have to check once i get it..
i think it supports... a friend of mine is using at&t captivate glide (unlocked version) and it is working fine..so hope this also works fine..
one more question...can i update the OS in unlocked phone..? i heard some one saying that the phone gets bricked if you update unlocked phones...is it so??

Shoooot! I just bought an AT&T HTC phone!!!

oh **** man
you scared the crap out of me :\
i bought att one x because it was 200$ cheaper then the quad core version
and i didn't care for the quad.
and it supposed to be here today, bought it from some one hope it's not refurbished
else my dad gonna kill me.

briankariu said:
Didnt think of that. Sorry.
Let me add a link to the previous thread
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Let me know which thread you want to keep, and I'll close the other one.
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Tips and tricks?

I just received the HOX as a Christmas gift coming from the HTC sensation I know my way around the phone, I'm just curious if their are any specific things about this phone that are different and new in terms of functionality and hidden surprises? Happy holidays my fellow one x users!
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

ThizizKenny said:
I just received the HOX as a Christmas gift coming from the HTC sensation I know my way around the phone, I'm just curious if their are any specific things about this phone that are different and new in terms of functionality and hidden surprises? Happy holidays my fellow one x users!
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One very important thing first. Please make sure you are aware if your phone is S4 (dual core, aka one xl) or Tegra 3 (quad core) before flashing anything. S4 is att/rogers/telstra (basically the forum you are in). Tegra 3 is the international version.
In the past, Canadians had what were referred to as international phones (gsm), but not with the one xl.
If you look around you will see that flashing the wrong firmware has been a serious problem.
Enjoy!
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda app-developers app

=JKT= said:
One very important thing first. Please make sure you are aware if your phone is S4 (dual core, aka one xl) or Tegra 3 (quad core) before flashing anything. S4 is att/rogers/telstra (basically the forum you are in). Tegra 3 is the international version.
In the past, Canadians had what were referred to as international phones (gsm), but not with the one xl.
If you look around you will see that flashing the wrong firmware has been a serious problem.
Enjoy!
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda app-developers app
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Att is gsm
I like the idea of a sim card. Down with Verizon! Lol
Kenny, if you flash anything for the other phone, there is a chance yours will never work again. Don't be a victim

absolutelygrim said:
Att is gsm
I like the idea of a sim card. Down with Verizon! Lol
Kenny, if you flash anything for the other phone, there is a chance yours will never work again. Don't be a victim
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Yes, I know. I was just saying that a with a lot of other phones gsm is considered an international phone.
For example, TMo had the G2, which was cdma, and the Desire Z was the "international" (gsm) model. So in the past, HTC has a history of just the two variants being categorized that way.
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Hmm... As for hidden suprises, not knowing if your phone is the dual or quad core will really mess you up (as said above) lol.
The keyboard is kinda cool since you can swipe with it. That was new to me. It's also suprising how fast the phone is once you put jellybean sense on it.
Gotta use twrp instead of cwm.
Screen is kinda easy to break so don't drop your phone.
Sent from my HTC One XL

Concidering quad cores aren't supported on Canadas network, I know I have the duel core model, plus it says it on the box , as for the screen break, I really gotta go get me a case soon lol
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Happy holidays.
As far as tips and tricks.
If you love Sense try VenomXL
If you love AOSP try JellyBam.
Those are the best tricked out roms with awesome performance.
Sent from my HTC One XL

=JKT= said:
Yes, I know. I was just saying that a with a lot of other phones gsm is considered an international phone.
For example, TMo had the G2, which was cdma, and the Desire Z was the "international" (gsm) model. So in the past, HTC has a history of just the two variants being categorized that way.
Sent from my HTC One XL using xda app-developers app
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I think you are getting some things mixed up. Tmobile's network has never, ever been CDMA. The major CDMA carriers in the US are Verizon and Sprint.
The G2 had WCDMA, which is in reference to it's data and not the voice network. WCDMA is also known as UMTS and is found on many GSM phones.
Point being, GSM does not suggest that the phone is international by any means. Also, the TMo G2 had a SIM card (of course, this was because it was a GSM phone).
G2 = GSM phone = US Version
Desire Z = GSM phone = International Version
Oh, also to clear up any other confusion, the HTC One XL on ATT/Rogers/Telstra as well as the international One X are all also GSM and all have SIM cards.

tekkneke said:
I think you are getting some things mixed up. Tmobile's network has never, ever been CDMA. The major CDMA carriers in the US are Verizon and Sprint.
The G2 had WCDMA, which is in reference to it's data and not the voice network. WCDMA is also known as UMTS and is found on many GSM phones.
Point being, GSM does not suggest that the phone is international by any means. Also, the TMo G2 had a SIM card (of course, this was because it was a GSM phone).
G2 = GSM phone = US Version
Desire Z = GSM phone = International Version
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Ah, you are right. Thanks for clarifying. Sorry for the misinformation. My bad.
Edit: just deleted all that because I can summarize it in one or two sentences.
Some people have the misconception that gsm and international are interchangeable. I was only trying to address that, esp. Because its been a blurry issue for some Canadian users.
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If his phone says "AT&T" at the top of the screen... It's the HTC One XL. Dual core is At&T us version. Quad-core is international...
If he got an HTC one x plus.... Then I'm jelly lmao
Sent from my Calkulins HTC One XL using xda-developers app

Megadoug13 said:
If his phone says "AT&T" at the top of the screen... It's the HTC One XL. Dual core is At&T us version. Quad-core is international...
If he got an HTC one x plus.... Then I'm jelly lmao
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There's not much to be jelly about except the storage amount

More storage would be awesome though... I can only keep two or three backups with 16gb, because they're like 1-2 gb themselves... Anyway, to the OP, Otterbox is a great case, and CM10 is an awesome ROM.

Jonathan_A said:
More storage would be awesome though... I can only keep two or three backups with 16gb, because they're like 1-2 gb themselves... Anyway, to the OP, Otterbox is a great case, and CM10 is an awesome ROM.
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But really, how many backups do you need on your device at any given time. 1, 2 maybe.
Sent from my HTC One XL

Mine poops all over my bro in law's X+.
Just sayin....
But his isnt rooted lol.. but shhh.. let me enjoy my throne
Sent from my HTC One XL using Tapatalk 2

one piece of advice, flash a jellybean rom as soon as possible, it kicks ICS's butt.

Do not upgrade to software 2.20. If you have AT&T and your software number is 1.85, stay there! This was my first mistake and now I have to flash boot.imgs manually.

[Q] I want to know to root/unlock htc one xl ?

i have htc one xl and want to use custom rom. How to root/unlock? It same htc one x?

Need more information. For any variant of the XL besides the US AT&T version, then yes its pretty similar to the quad core "international" One X: Unlock bootloader via HTCDev.com, install custom recovery, and flash ROMs.
Things to keep in mind: One big difference from the quad core One is that Clockworkmod is not recommended as a custom recovery for the dual core XL. Its just a hacked port, and has some serious issues. TWRP is the recommended recovery.
Also keep in mind the the dual core/LTE enabled XL is completely different hardware from the quad core One X. Only flash ROMs explicitly intended for the dual core version.
Everything you need is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
If you have the AT&T version (which I'm guessing you don't since you refer to the XL, not One X), its a whole different ballgame. So let us know if you have the AT&T version.
Also, if you currently have Jelly Bean on the phone, and was updated via OTA, then you may have problems with custom recovery and/or flashing ROMs (getting the touch screen to work). So again, we really need more info on your current device to answer your question properly.

redpoint73 said:
If you have the AT&T version (which I'm guessing you don't since you refer to the XL, not One X), its a whole different ballgame. So let us know if you have the AT&T version.
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Forgive me, but my research has led me to believe that the One XL IS the AT&T version, with the L standing for LTE, though AT&T call's it the "One X" because that is the only variant that they sell. The Tegra 3 processor in the international version of the One X is not compatible with LTE, so the AT&T version uses the dual-core Qualcom MSM8960 CPU.
Please please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that this info is correct.

foolhardy said:
Forgive me, but my research has led me to believe that the One XL IS the AT&T version, with the L standing for LTE, though AT&T call's it the "One X" because that is the only variant that they sell. The Tegra 3 processor in the international version of the One X is not compatible with LTE, so the AT&T version uses the dual-core Qualcom MSM8960 CPU.
Please please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that this info is correct.
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The AT&T One X is the One XL. AT&T just wanted to take advantage of the unified branding, since the One X had already been released to much fanfare. What he means is that there are other carriers outside the US using the same phone but calling it (correctly) the One XL.

thankyou every body i read from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 now i can use custom rom already

foolhardy said:
Forgive me, but my research has led me to believe that the One XL IS the AT&T version, with the L standing for LTE, though AT&T call's it the "One X" because that is the only variant that they sell. The Tegra 3 processor in the international version of the One X is not compatible with LTE, so the AT&T version uses the dual-core Qualcom MSM8960 CPU.
Please please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that this info is correct.
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Yes, the AT&T One X is the same hardware as what other carriers are calling the One XL. Meaning dual core Snapdragon with LTE support.
That wasn't what I was talking about. I never said the hardware was different.
What is different is the root/bootloader unlock process for the AT&T version. Its not hardware driven, its carrier (AT&T specifically) driven. AT&T has instructed HTC to prohibit the bootloader unlock within HTCDev.com for the AT&T carrier ID (CID). Therefore, the bootloader unlock process for AT&T (and AT&T only) is:
Temp root or perm root (depending on firmware version)>spoof CID>unlock bootloader via HTCDev.com>install custom recovery>perm root (if needed)
AT&T is the only carrier in the world to do this on this device. Again, since you referred to the One XL, I assume you don't have the AT&T version, so I didn't bother to go into the level of detail. But you still haven't said what carrier version you have, so we really don't know for certain.