Hi all,
I'm looking at getting either a One X or One XL, and one thing I'm not sure about with the latter is if ROMs for the AT&T "X" are usable on the international XL. The difference being the AT&T one has 16 GB and the international version (which AFIK Australia and SE Asia gets) has 32 GB.
I should also mention I'm new to ROMs as well - I never bothered with my previous Android phone, figuring I'd play around with that once I got a new one. Wouldn't want to brick the only phone I had.
Also, are stock ROMs from HTC available? Where would we find them? A local user (Singapore) has gotten his phone, and posted on a local tech forum that there's bloatware from all our local telcos on it, not just the one he was using. Figure I might want to ease myself into this by starting with a stock ROM.
Different phones. Please dont cross flash on your phone or you will have a brick. Choose your phone and look at the appropriate forum
I believe all S4 based One X's are compatible with the development going on in this forum.
The only phones compatible with these forums are the following:
AT&T One X
Rogers One XL
Telstra One XL
International One XL
You will probably see more AT&T RUUs here as that is what the majority of the users are using here.
And the ROMs work on any version, but Radios and APN (access point names) you may have to set up yourself (if the ROM says so)
rohan32 said:
The only phones compatible with these forums are the following:
AT&T One X
Rogers One XL
Telstra One XL
International One XL
You will probably see more AT&T RUUs here as that is what the majority of the users are using here.
And the ROMs work on any version, but Radios and APN (access point names) you may have to set up yourself (if the ROM says so)
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Thanks. Does HTC make the stock RUU(?) available for their phones? I've been looking but haven't found it yet.
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Looking forward to my first Android phone and wondering... Will ROMs developed for the One X also work for the XL?
Not sure if I can give up on my ORD from my Windows Mobile days...
Mark
HTC Tilt 2
Jackos EVO 1.7
mawoods75 said:
Looking forward to my first Android phone and wondering... Will ROMs developed for the One X also work for the XL?
Not sure if I can give up on my ORD from my Windows Mobile days...
Mark
HTC Tilt 2
Jackos EVO 1.7
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I really doubt it since the roms and kernels are made for different cpu/gpu's.
Not to mention that roms will have to take in consideration the different radios such as 4g.
So no
Okay. I have to disagree with the idea that they won't.
They may not work directly, but adding LTE and processor support really isn't that hard of a thing to do ( as far as I am aware ). I'm relatively sure at some point, there will be a firmware cooker that will add those automatically to One X roms to make them compatible.
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Okay. I have to disagree with the idea that they won't.
They may not work directly, but adding LTE and processor support really isn't that hard of a thing to do ( as far as I am aware ). I'm relatively sure at some point, there will be a firmware cooker that will add those automatically to One X roms to make them compatible.
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Different processor. The LTE isnt the issue. Its going from an Nvidia quad core 3 to a Qualcomm S4 Krait dual core. Completely different hardware that will require different drivers and paths.
Perhaps there will be a hellraiser package of some sort that will inject the drivers that we need, and be able to use, but the short answer is probably not at this time.
Hellraiser! That's exactly what I had in mind when I was saying what I did. I just couldn't put my finger on it.
However, I do hope a hellraiser kind of thing will released for the two.
Yep, different chipsets...no way they'll be compatible out of the box.
But it's likely that the people making the roms will make a version for both AT&T and International. As they've done w/ a lots of other phone's w/ different chips.
There's probably be a US team member, and a Intl team member working on those parts.
I can only hope.
Thanks!
Thanks for all the responses... Really looking forward to this phone but may hold off just a tad to see how ROM dev goes. I purposely held off on the vivid waiting for some quad core goodness, so I am disappointed that AT&T is not getting the international version. But, I understand why.
Mark
vectorized said:
But it's likely that the people making the roms will make a version for both AT&T and International. As they've done w/ a lots of other phone's w/ different chips.
There's probably be a US team member, and a Intl team member working on those parts.
I can only hope.
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All our US guys, me included are buying the ONE X from the UK. I don't see the two phones ever being compatible rom wise (one x & one xl). fcc cleared the international version to be shipped to the US and can run fine on AT&T's radios. so It's a no brainer for me to get the quad core model. I can live with out LTE
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All our US guys, me included are buying the ONE X from the UK. I don't see the two phones ever being compatible rom wise (one x & one xl). fcc cleared the international version to be shipped to the US and can run fine on AT&T's radios. so It's a no brainer for me to get the quad core model. I can live with out LTE
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I find it slightly nonsensical that people are buying into the quadcore hype when Krait is faster than Tegra 3, clock for clock, core for core.
It bugs the crap out of me... really. That means that just because of that the US is going to lose some major development. and I don't know if that's worth another $300 out of my pocket...
I think people are missing something here, because in actuality development will be split upon two different fronts.
The One X will be an EU/Asia HSPA+ phone, but the One XL will be used internationally, with the only difference between each XL is the radio bands.
It doesn't matter there's still radio differences and processor differences. It's a completely different SoC. That makes it difficult to transpose between devices(I would assume).
I'm thinking the One X will get most of the dev support. One XL has to many strikes out the gate. One XL will probably have a later release date its going to be releaesd to a smaller portion of the world population.
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The problem is that the world is turning LTE into a major clusterfuck of radio bands to support, there's already 4 bands for GSM, 5 bands of WCDMA, and something like 4 bands of LTE in the US alone.
There's definitely a mess of bands in North America.
Verizon: 700 MHz - and their phones are CDMA/LTE dual
AT&T: 700 and AWS - their phones are GSM/HSPA/LTE triple
MetroPCS: 1900 and AWS - their phones are CDMA/LTE dual
Sprint (planned): 1900 including G-Block - their phones will be CDMA/LTE dual, with maybe one CDMA/Wimax/LTE hotspot
Note that the Verizon and AT&T 700 MHz LTE service is on different channels in 700 MHz, so they will not be compatible. Hooray.
Globally, LTE is expected be deployed on 38 different radio bands.
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All our US guys, me included are buying the ONE X from the UK. I don't see the two phones ever being compatible rom wise (one x & one xl). fcc cleared the international version to be shipped to the US and can run fine on AT&T's radios. so It's a no brainer for me to get the quad core model. I can live with out LTE
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If you're concerned about the lack of development (and dont care about LTE) this is the way to go. The X and XL will both be popular here at XDA, but for those of you that want the most popular/supported device you might want to think about the One X.
And yes, most One X chefs will eventually whip up an XL version of their build but my guess is it wont be right away..
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Are the people who are getting the X instead of the XL buying it unlocked? Because I would get the X and sacrifice LTE if I can get it for the same price. My contract is over in May so I was going to use my upgrade on this.
milkytron said:
Are the people who are getting the X instead of the XL buying it unlocked? Because I would get the X and sacrifice LTE if I can get it for the same price. My contract is over in May so I was going to use my upgrade on this.
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We will be buying them unlocked. It won't be the same price. The AT&T One X will be at least $549.99 off contract. The lowest price I have seen for the International T3 One X is $675.50 from Negri Electronics.
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ZeroRilix said:
We will be buying them unlocked. It won't be the same price. The AT&T One X will be at least $549.99 off contract. The lowest price I have seen for the International T3 One X is $675.50 from Negri Electronics.
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You are right. One XL will be a lot cheaper than the One X. One X want be in the 550.00 range until 3-4 months after release.
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NardVa said:
You are right. One XL will be a lot cheaper than the One X. One X want be in the 550.00 range until 3-4 months after release.
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I'd be willing to bet that the AT&T XL will be at least $650 off contract. That's what the Galaxy Note costs, and the XL is a better device.
Calling it the One XL? Isnt it the One X? Just curious..
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Calling it the One XL? Isnt it the One X? Just curious..
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Because it is the One XL, AT&T renamed it the One X, which is confusing because the int'l One X isn't the same thing, well, mostly is.
To distinguish it from the One X Tegra 3 international version.
Officially I think the One XL stands for the One X LTE, which is the AT&T version.
AT & T didn't rename it; it's only called the One X on Rogers, too.
It's because other countries where the LTE model is available also have have the non-LTE model available, so they need two separate names to differentiate them. In Canada and the USA, only the LTE model is available, so calling it the XL is unnecessary.
I see...dont you hate it when people call "LTE" Lite? I seriously have had people say that. Anyway, glad to sit here and pass the time with you all. I cant wait to get my "HTC One X LITE"....
The S4 One X is technically called the One XL, probably LTE as someone said previously.
It was renamed by ATT/Rogers.
I'm on Rogers and I rather buy the Telus version of the HTC One X because it comes in a charcoal colour. However, can someone tell me if I can unlock the phone with ease and use it on Rogers? Are there any custom roms available to flash on Telus' HTC One X so that I can get better performance and eliminate the carrier branding on the phone?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=telus+htc+one+x+on+rogers
Beamed from my TN Special Edition powered HOXL on Rogers.
lsquare said:
I'm on Rogers and I rather buy the Telus version of the HTC One X because it comes in a charcoal colour. However, can someone tell me if I can unlock the phone with ease and use it on Rogers? Are there any custom roms available to flash on Telus' HTC One X so that I can get better performance and eliminate the carrier branding on the phone?
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Other than the colour, electronically, the phones are identical.
There are a plethora of threads to read here to get yourself rooted and using custom ROMs. That being said; the TELUS ROM unlike Rogers has no carrier specific branding or software on it except for 1, unobstructed application.
Q&A...Q&A...Q&A (that's where all question threads belong)
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"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice
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WorldIRC said:
Other than the colour, electronically, the phones are identical.
There are a plethora of threads to read here to get yourself rooted and using custom ROMs. That being said; the TELUS ROM unlike Rogers has no carrier specific branding or software on it except for 1, unobstructed application.
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Thanks for the information. Is there a free way to unlock the phone? Do you have any suggestions on what is the best way to unlock the phone?
there are plenty of unlocking services on ebay for less than $10.
I'm not aware of a free way of SIM-unlocking like there was on the Desire Z/G2.
I also have a dedicated guide on the Telus HOX in my signature as well if you want a step-by-step on unlocking the bootloader and getting custom roms on your Telus variant.
Athrun88 said:
there are plenty of unlocking services on ebay for less than $10.
I'm not aware of a free way of SIM-unlocking like there was on the Desire Z/G2.
I also have a dedicated guide on the Telus HOX in my signature as well if you want a step-by-step on unlocking the bootloader and getting custom roms on your Telus variant.
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Thanks for the information.
Can you confirm whether I can just drop by any Telus store and buy the HOX off contract without any hassles? What is the lowest price off contract? Is it better to buy from FS/BB or the Telus store?
Which Tom are you using? Is the Cyanogen 10 Nightly build compatible with this version of the One X? I think it's Te international version of the HOX that is compatible, but I would like to know.
lsquare said:
Thanks for the information.
Can you confirm whether I can just drop by any Telus store and buy the HOX off contract without any hassles? What is the lowest price off contract? Is it better to buy from FS/BB or the Telus store?
Which Tom are you using? Is the Cyanogen 10 Nightly build compatible with this version of the One X? I think it's Te international version of the HOX that is compatible, but I would like to know.
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If it says AT&T Rogers Telstra HTC One X it basicly means our phone. I belive we do have a Cm10 build by h8. Personally I got my One X from Ebay which is a fair bit cheaper and as long as it's a non AT&T you don't need to worry at ALL about rooting the phone
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lsquare said:
Thanks for the information.
Can you confirm whether I can just drop by any Telus store and buy the HOX off contract without any hassles? What is the lowest price off contract? Is it better to buy from FS/BB or the Telus store?
Which Tom are you using? Is the Cyanogen 10 Nightly build compatible with this version of the One X? I think it's Te international version of the HOX that is compatible, but I would like to know.
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If you have the money, going to the Telus store is your best bet. If you go to FS/BB or any other 3rd party, they run heavy on commission so they may pressure you into signing a new contract. Telus stores aren't as heavy and I have bought many phones off contract by simply asking them. It will still be locked, though you can ask them to unlock it for you since you're not getting it subsidized.
I am running CleanROM 4.5 Final and I love it. Very stable and very good on battery. I tried NT and others, but the stock look of Sense 4.0 is very appealing to me. There is a version of CM10 that is available here. I'm not a fan of nightlies so I don't use it personally.
Athrun88 said:
If you have the money, going to the Telus store is your best bet. If you go to FS/BB or any other 3rd party, they run heavy on commission so they may pressure you into signing a new contract. Telus stores aren't as heavy and I have bought many phones off contract by simply asking them. It will still be locked, though you can ask them to unlock it for you since you're not getting it subsidized.
I am running CleanROM 4.5 Final and I love it. Very stable and very good on battery. I tried NT and others, but the stock look of Sense 4.0 is very appealing to me. There is a version of CM10 that is available here. I'm not a fan of nightlies so I don't use it personally.
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What's wrong with the nightlies? Is it not stable? If I go with CM10, then I'll lose Sense right? If so, it's not a big deal for me. I want as close to ICS/Jelly Bean as possible. I'd go with the Galaxy Nexus if it wasn't for the fact that it doesn't have LTE.
Are you sure Telus will even consider unlocking the phone for me if I buy it off contract? I have a feeling they won't.
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What's wrong with the nightlies? Is it not stable? If I go with CM10, then I'll lose Sense right? If so, it's not a big deal for me. I want as close to ICS/Jelly Bean as possible. I'd go with the Galaxy Nexus if it wasn't for the fact that it doesn't have LTE.
Are you sure Telus will even consider unlocking the phone for me if I buy it off contract? I have a feeling they won't.
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You can always ask. Some of the associates there are not so bright. Example, the guy who gave me my HOX didn't know a single thing about it. Pretty sure I heard his manager fire him on my way out.
The nightlies is just a personal opinion. Never used them so I can't comment on them, but there's something about nightly releases that doesnt sit well with me.
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HI all,
I am currently using a one x and just discover my phone plan does support 4G and looking to buy a one xl to fully utilise that.
I am going to buy a 16GB version one XL in Hong Kong and it should be snapdragon S4 one. Just got a few questions.
1. Can I simply unlock the bootloader from HTCdev then flash a custom recovery, and get everything I want? Like custom roms, and of coz root. I know there's a sticky thread in development and it is somehow messed up with AT&T version and thus looks more complicated. (That's not anyone's fault but HTC and the carriers, I understand) Just want to have a quick check on this.
2. Did someone try to bring one XL to Japan? Did it work with b-mobile (ntt docomo?)? I brought my one x to Japan in May unfortunately b-mobile didn't like my phone
Obviously one xl has a different radio and chip to handle phone signal, this gives me a hope.
Cheers for any advice
kahei036 said:
HI all,
I am currently using a one x and just discover my phone plan does support 4G and looking to buy a one xl to fully utilise that.
I am going to buy a 16GB version one XL in Hong Kong and it should be snapdragon S4 one. Just got a few questions.
1. Can I simply unlock the bootloader from HTCdev then flash a custom recovery, and get everything I want? Like custom roms, and of coz root. I know there's a sticky thread in development and it is somehow messed up with AT&T version and thus looks more complicated. (That's not anyone's fault but HTC and the carriers, I understand) Just want to have a quick check on this.
2. Did someone try to bring one XL to Japan? Did it work with b-mobile (ntt docomo?)? I brought my one x to Japan in May unfortunately b-mobile didn't like my phone
Obviously one xl has a different radio and chip to handle phone signal, this gives me a hope.
Cheers for any advice
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1. Check which version of the One XL you will be getting. If it's similar to the AT&T version, you may have a hard time unlocking the bootloader. To my knowledge, it's only the North American AT&T version that is not able to be unlocked though HTCDev. The North American Rogers and Telus versions are able to be unlocked as is the Australian Telsra. I can only assume that the One XL's from Hong Kong are the same as the rest.
2. Look up the specs and make sure the 4G/LTE radio is compatible with NTT DoCoMo's bands. I think the One XL (all variants) have quad band GSM but not sure about the LTE bands. Japan is a sort of outcast when it comes to mobile bands as they use different bands that are usually not compatible with non-domestic phones.
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1. Check which version of the One XL you will be getting. If it's similar to the AT&T version, you may have a hard time unlocking the bootloader. To my knowledge, it's only the North American AT&T version that is not able to be unlocked though HTCDev. The North American Rogers and Telus versions are able to be unlocked as is the Australian Telsra. I can only assume that the One XL's from Hong Kong are the same as the rest.
2. Look up the specs and make sure the 4G/LTE radio is compatible with NTT DoCoMo's bands. I think the One XL (all variants) have quad band GSM but not sure about the LTE bands. Japan is a sort of outcast when it comes to mobile bands as they use different bands that are usually not compatible with non-domestic phones.
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Thanks for the reply.
Regarding the use in Japan, I checked the carrier does provide 2100 band and one x supported that as well, but for some reasons I was not able to register the network at that time, was using ARHD at that time not sure if that's anything wrong to do with that. One XL support 1800/2600 LTE looks like it does work with Japan band but it may just my "hope".
Anyway thanks for the reply again, appreciated.
I also bought my One XL from Hong Kong and mine is definitely not like the AT&T version. It's standard HTC issue
I used the One Click Root method to gain root, spoof cid to get unlocked bootloader through HTCdev, installed TWRP recovery and am now using ViperXL ROM.
Unless you're buying the phone from AT&T I don't think you'll get their version, you should be ok
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kahei036, you said you were using ARHD, that rom does not work on the phone this forum is intended for. you have the other htc one x which doesn't support lte.
i would call the carrier to make sure the htc one xl you want to get will work on their network. also ask them why your tegra one x doesn't work. are your apns correct? maybe your using a radio that doesn't work well with your carrier?
i have htc one xl and want to use custom rom. How to root/unlock? It same htc one x?
Need more information. For any variant of the XL besides the US AT&T version, then yes its pretty similar to the quad core "international" One X: Unlock bootloader via HTCDev.com, install custom recovery, and flash ROMs.
Things to keep in mind: One big difference from the quad core One is that Clockworkmod is not recommended as a custom recovery for the dual core XL. Its just a hacked port, and has some serious issues. TWRP is the recommended recovery.
Also keep in mind the the dual core/LTE enabled XL is completely different hardware from the quad core One X. Only flash ROMs explicitly intended for the dual core version.
Everything you need is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
If you have the AT&T version (which I'm guessing you don't since you refer to the XL, not One X), its a whole different ballgame. So let us know if you have the AT&T version.
Also, if you currently have Jelly Bean on the phone, and was updated via OTA, then you may have problems with custom recovery and/or flashing ROMs (getting the touch screen to work). So again, we really need more info on your current device to answer your question properly.
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If you have the AT&T version (which I'm guessing you don't since you refer to the XL, not One X), its a whole different ballgame. So let us know if you have the AT&T version.
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Forgive me, but my research has led me to believe that the One XL IS the AT&T version, with the L standing for LTE, though AT&T call's it the "One X" because that is the only variant that they sell. The Tegra 3 processor in the international version of the One X is not compatible with LTE, so the AT&T version uses the dual-core Qualcom MSM8960 CPU.
Please please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that this info is correct.
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Forgive me, but my research has led me to believe that the One XL IS the AT&T version, with the L standing for LTE, though AT&T call's it the "One X" because that is the only variant that they sell. The Tegra 3 processor in the international version of the One X is not compatible with LTE, so the AT&T version uses the dual-core Qualcom MSM8960 CPU.
Please please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that this info is correct.
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The AT&T One X is the One XL. AT&T just wanted to take advantage of the unified branding, since the One X had already been released to much fanfare. What he means is that there are other carriers outside the US using the same phone but calling it (correctly) the One XL.
thankyou every body i read from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 now i can use custom rom already
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Forgive me, but my research has led me to believe that the One XL IS the AT&T version, with the L standing for LTE, though AT&T call's it the "One X" because that is the only variant that they sell. The Tegra 3 processor in the international version of the One X is not compatible with LTE, so the AT&T version uses the dual-core Qualcom MSM8960 CPU.
Please please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that this info is correct.
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Yes, the AT&T One X is the same hardware as what other carriers are calling the One XL. Meaning dual core Snapdragon with LTE support.
That wasn't what I was talking about. I never said the hardware was different.
What is different is the root/bootloader unlock process for the AT&T version. Its not hardware driven, its carrier (AT&T specifically) driven. AT&T has instructed HTC to prohibit the bootloader unlock within HTCDev.com for the AT&T carrier ID (CID). Therefore, the bootloader unlock process for AT&T (and AT&T only) is:
Temp root or perm root (depending on firmware version)>spoof CID>unlock bootloader via HTCDev.com>install custom recovery>perm root (if needed)
AT&T is the only carrier in the world to do this on this device. Again, since you referred to the One XL, I assume you don't have the AT&T version, so I didn't bother to go into the level of detail. But you still haven't said what carrier version you have, so we really don't know for certain.