Difference between Canadian and AT&T One X - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

So after reading the Engadget review of the One X, I've become intrigued with the differences between the Canadian and AT&T versions of the One X. Searched and didn't see anything referencing this directly. The article says LTE should work fine on both AT&T and Canuck networks.
So, besides saying HTC at the top instead of AT&T and I suppose having Rogers bloatware instead of the usual AT&T crap, is there any other difference?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/01/htc-one-x-for-att-review/

One big difference is the rogers has the ability to toggle lte off which is not the case with the at&t version
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E.Cadro said:
One big difference is the rogers has the ability to toggle lte off which is not the case with the at&t version
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The moment we have a ROM granting that functionality, I am flashing. I do not live in an LTE area
First world problems....
Also, another difference is the ability to tether freely. Not that I use this feature. However, it would be nice.

I believe the AT&T model lacks the ability of a LTE on/off toggle, tethering and a few optings in the camera like time lapse (I think there might be one othere, not sure though).
I think most things we will be able to rip out of the International model or the Rogers model and cram them into the AT&T version. Also, Im sure custom roms will add all of these features back in.

Red5 said:
I believe the AT&T model lacks the ability of a LTE on/off toggle, tethering and a few optings in the camera like time lapse (I think there might be one othere, not sure though).
I think most things we will be able to rip out of the International model or the Rogers model and cram them into the AT&T version. Also, Im sure custom roms will add all of these features back in.
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Sounds good. Well I pre-ordered like most of you and see mine has shipped. Can't wait until tomorrow!

Is there any PHYSICAL difference to the exterior of the AT&T version? Are the phones identical apart from CPU and software?
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nimrod77 said:
Is there any PHYSICAL difference to the exterior of the AT&T version? Are the phones identical apart from CPU and software?
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isnt the hardware identical? just att has locked some features including the bl...
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nimrod77 said:
Is there any PHYSICAL difference to the exterior of the AT&T version? Are the phones identical apart from CPU and software?
Cheers!!
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cpu's are the same, all hardware is the same.. only difference is software...

Will the ATT LTE work if we put the SIM into the Roger version

leletyM3 said:
Will the ATT LTE work if we put the SIM into the Roger version
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Yes, it will, I have a Rogers One X and used the micro sim from the AT&T One X in it. But the trick is getting them to add the LTE data plan to your account. If you already have an AT&T branded LTE device, then you shouldn't have a problem. But good luck getting them to add an LTE data plan to your account if you don't. They insist on using IMEI numbers now to determine which data plans you can add to the account. Your best bet is to borrow or buy a cheap LTE AT&T phone, get your data plan switched to an LTE one, get a micro sim, get them to activate it on your non-micro sim device ,and then switch the micro SIM to your Rogers One X.
It is possible, just a PITA.

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The AT&T version of the One X has a snapdragon dual core processor as opposed to the international version that has the Nvidia Tegra quad core processor. This is due to the Tegra processor not being compatible with LTE .http://www.att.com/onex/
Does anyone know if the external measurements of the two One X's are the same?
Thanks guys

y2jdmbfan said:
Yes, it will, I have a Rogers One X and used the micro sim from the AT&T One X in it. But the trick is getting them to add the LTE data plan to your account. If you already have an AT&T branded LTE device, then you shouldn't have a problem. But good luck getting them to add an LTE data plan to your account if you don't. They insist on using IMEI numbers now to determine which data plans you can add to the account. Your best bet is to borrow or buy a cheap LTE AT&T phone, get your data plan switched to an LTE one, get a micro sim, get them to activate it on your non-micro sim device ,and then switch the micro SIM to your Rogers One X.
It is possible, just a PITA.
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I am currently on the Unlimited iPhone Data plan, and they switched me over to the LTE Unlimited Plan with an LTE IMEI. I might buy the One X from Rogers Unlocked.
Thanks for the above info, all I wanted to know if the LTE was working.

nimrod77 said:
The AT&T version of the One X has a snapdragon dual core processor as opposed to the international version that has the Nvidia Tegra quad core processor. This is due to the Tegra processor not being compatible with LTE .http://www.att.com/onex/
Does anyone know if the external measurements of the two One X's are the same?
Thanks guys
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Between the LTE ones yes. International and LTE ones are different

Both the Canadian(Rogers) One X and US(AT&T) One X are the Same Device other than the sofware running on it, and the lithographed branding under the glass at the top (one say's htc, the other AT&T printed backwards on the underside of the glass)
Both are the PJ8310000
If there was a variation in the hardware one would have a different digit in this number
like the Telus DHD and Inspire 4G for example
both same device, different housing (for branding) <- why it got the different number
Telus DHD was PD9814000 and the Inspire 4G was PD9812000 (International was PD9810000)
THE CANADIAN AND U.S. ONE X'S ARE THE EXACT SAME DEVICE.
THEY ARE INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN AS THE 'ONE XL'
THE ONLY THING DIFFERENT IS THE SOFTWARE ON IT.
(that includes software customization, rf channel configs, dz data, etc...)
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E.Cadro said:
One big difference is the rogers has the ability to toggle lte off which is not the case with the at&t version
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when you guy's get root, you'll be able to swap the services.jar, services.apk and get the same thing for yourselves.
ps: other than the boot/down annimations - being pointed to by ../CID/default.xml, the 'scene' addidion/layout in ../MNS/default.xml (both the customize folder), and carrier apps, the rogers rom is vanilla.

I'm not familiar with the Rogers software. I'm in the US and eyeing a Rogers version, if I were to get one from say Negri, does it have FREE wifi hotspot?

Not in an LTE area
mikelebz said:
The moment we have a ROM granting that functionality, I am flashing. I do not live in an LTE area
First world problems....
Also, another difference is the ability to tether freely. Not that I use this feature. However, it would be nice.
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From what I have seen, when you are not in an LTE area the LTE is disabled and doesn't kill your battery. It's still be nice to have a toggle though.
For tether, why not just root and use WiFi Tether?

differences.
Hi XDA members n mods and devs! hehe
so I have a really disturbing question and I want to be very2 careful when I buy The HTC one X
my biggest question is how to know if the HOX is AT&T or International version? does it have some kind of logo or something?
second does the AT&T and International version have differences in terms of internal memory?
thanks and please reply quickly? I'm planning to buy this phone next week.^^

GeekaPhone said:
Hi XDA members n mods and devs! hehe
so I have a really disturbing question and I want to be very2 careful when I buy The HTC one X
my biggest question is how to know if the HOX is AT&T or International version? does it have some kind of logo or something?
second does the AT&T and International version have differences in terms of internal memory?
thanks and please reply quickly? I'm planning to buy this phone next week.^^
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AT&T version is dual core, international is quad core. The AT&T version has 16 gigs of storage whereas the international version has 32.

Do you want a AT&T One X in particular or just a Evita from North America?
Rogers, Telus and such all have the same phone but have less restrictions.
Also you could buy an Evita from many places in the world but you need to take care with what LTE frequencies it supports. If you are in NA you should buy a NA phone.

GeekaPhone said:
Hi XDA members n mods and devs! hehe
so I have a really disturbing question and I want to be very2 careful when I buy The HTC one X
my biggest question is how to know if the HOX is AT&T or International version? does it have some kind of logo or something?
second does the AT&T and International version have differences in terms of internal memory?
thanks and please reply quickly? I'm planning to buy this phone next week.^^
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System Settings > about phone > hardware information
Should say at the top Dual Core or Quad Core. Dual Core is the AT&T, Rogers, Telstra One XL.
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[Q] Will One X ROMS work on the XL?

Looking forward to my first Android phone and wondering... Will ROMs developed for the One X also work for the XL?
Not sure if I can give up on my ORD from my Windows Mobile days...
Mark
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mawoods75 said:
Looking forward to my first Android phone and wondering... Will ROMs developed for the One X also work for the XL?
Not sure if I can give up on my ORD from my Windows Mobile days...
Mark
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I really doubt it since the roms and kernels are made for different cpu/gpu's.
Not to mention that roms will have to take in consideration the different radios such as 4g.
So no
Okay. I have to disagree with the idea that they won't.
They may not work directly, but adding LTE and processor support really isn't that hard of a thing to do ( as far as I am aware ). I'm relatively sure at some point, there will be a firmware cooker that will add those automatically to One X roms to make them compatible.
x3phyr said:
Okay. I have to disagree with the idea that they won't.
They may not work directly, but adding LTE and processor support really isn't that hard of a thing to do ( as far as I am aware ). I'm relatively sure at some point, there will be a firmware cooker that will add those automatically to One X roms to make them compatible.
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Different processor. The LTE isnt the issue. Its going from an Nvidia quad core 3 to a Qualcomm S4 Krait dual core. Completely different hardware that will require different drivers and paths.
Perhaps there will be a hellraiser package of some sort that will inject the drivers that we need, and be able to use, but the short answer is probably not at this time.
Hellraiser! That's exactly what I had in mind when I was saying what I did. I just couldn't put my finger on it.
However, I do hope a hellraiser kind of thing will released for the two.
Yep, different chipsets...no way they'll be compatible out of the box.
But it's likely that the people making the roms will make a version for both AT&T and International. As they've done w/ a lots of other phone's w/ different chips.
There's probably be a US team member, and a Intl team member working on those parts.
I can only hope.
Thanks!
Thanks for all the responses... Really looking forward to this phone but may hold off just a tad to see how ROM dev goes. I purposely held off on the vivid waiting for some quad core goodness, so I am disappointed that AT&T is not getting the international version. But, I understand why.
Mark
vectorized said:
But it's likely that the people making the roms will make a version for both AT&T and International. As they've done w/ a lots of other phone's w/ different chips.
There's probably be a US team member, and a Intl team member working on those parts.
I can only hope.
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All our US guys, me included are buying the ONE X from the UK. I don't see the two phones ever being compatible rom wise (one x & one xl). fcc cleared the international version to be shipped to the US and can run fine on AT&T's radios. so It's a no brainer for me to get the quad core model. I can live with out LTE
rayford85 said:
All our US guys, me included are buying the ONE X from the UK. I don't see the two phones ever being compatible rom wise (one x & one xl). fcc cleared the international version to be shipped to the US and can run fine on AT&T's radios. so It's a no brainer for me to get the quad core model. I can live with out LTE
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I find it slightly nonsensical that people are buying into the quadcore hype when Krait is faster than Tegra 3, clock for clock, core for core.
It bugs the crap out of me... really. That means that just because of that the US is going to lose some major development. and I don't know if that's worth another $300 out of my pocket...
I think people are missing something here, because in actuality development will be split upon two different fronts.
The One X will be an EU/Asia HSPA+ phone, but the One XL will be used internationally, with the only difference between each XL is the radio bands.
It doesn't matter there's still radio differences and processor differences. It's a completely different SoC. That makes it difficult to transpose between devices(I would assume).
I'm thinking the One X will get most of the dev support. One XL has to many strikes out the gate. One XL will probably have a later release date its going to be releaesd to a smaller portion of the world population.
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The problem is that the world is turning LTE into a major clusterfuck of radio bands to support, there's already 4 bands for GSM, 5 bands of WCDMA, and something like 4 bands of LTE in the US alone.
There's definitely a mess of bands in North America.
Verizon: 700 MHz - and their phones are CDMA/LTE dual
AT&T: 700 and AWS - their phones are GSM/HSPA/LTE triple
MetroPCS: 1900 and AWS - their phones are CDMA/LTE dual
Sprint (planned): 1900 including G-Block - their phones will be CDMA/LTE dual, with maybe one CDMA/Wimax/LTE hotspot
Note that the Verizon and AT&T 700 MHz LTE service is on different channels in 700 MHz, so they will not be compatible. Hooray.
Globally, LTE is expected be deployed on 38 different radio bands.
rayford85 said:
All our US guys, me included are buying the ONE X from the UK. I don't see the two phones ever being compatible rom wise (one x & one xl). fcc cleared the international version to be shipped to the US and can run fine on AT&T's radios. so It's a no brainer for me to get the quad core model. I can live with out LTE
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+1
If you're concerned about the lack of development (and dont care about LTE) this is the way to go. The X and XL will both be popular here at XDA, but for those of you that want the most popular/supported device you might want to think about the One X.
And yes, most One X chefs will eventually whip up an XL version of their build but my guess is it wont be right away..
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Are the people who are getting the X instead of the XL buying it unlocked? Because I would get the X and sacrifice LTE if I can get it for the same price. My contract is over in May so I was going to use my upgrade on this.
milkytron said:
Are the people who are getting the X instead of the XL buying it unlocked? Because I would get the X and sacrifice LTE if I can get it for the same price. My contract is over in May so I was going to use my upgrade on this.
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We will be buying them unlocked. It won't be the same price. The AT&T One X will be at least $549.99 off contract. The lowest price I have seen for the International T3 One X is $675.50 from Negri Electronics.
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ZeroRilix said:
We will be buying them unlocked. It won't be the same price. The AT&T One X will be at least $549.99 off contract. The lowest price I have seen for the International T3 One X is $675.50 from Negri Electronics.
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You are right. One XL will be a lot cheaper than the One X. One X want be in the 550.00 range until 3-4 months after release.
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NardVa said:
You are right. One XL will be a lot cheaper than the One X. One X want be in the 550.00 range until 3-4 months after release.
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I'd be willing to bet that the AT&T XL will be at least $650 off contract. That's what the Galaxy Note costs, and the XL is a better device.

INTERNATIONAL ONE X ON AT&T dumb phone data?

So i'm intending to buy an htc one X international edition to use on at&t. I was wondering if i could use that phone on the $10 unlimited dumb phone data plan? I have been doing it with various unlocked phones, including tmobile galaxy s 1, and tmobile galaxy s2. I was just wondering if the Htc one x international, and the At&t edition had the same IMEI? Also for anyone who has tried, does it pull hspa+? according to gsmarena it should, but i just want to double check.
hashbrown95 said:
So i'm intending to buy an htc one X international edition to use on at&t. I was wondering if i could use that phone on the $10 unlimited dumb phone data plan? I have been doing it with various unlocked phones, including tmobile galaxy s 1, and tmobile galaxy s2. I was just wondering if the Htc one x international, and the At&t edition had the same IMEI? Also for anyone who has tried, does it pull hspa+? according to gsmarena it should, but i just want to double check.
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First off, this should be in the international forums since you are talking about that device. This isn't a forum devoted to AT&T, its to the AT&T HTC One X, which you are not purchasing.
Secondly, no, they do not have the same IMEI since they are completely different devices.
And thirdly, I would expect it to pull HSPA+ since I believe it is marketed that way.
Thanks a ton. and sorry for posting in the wrong forum.
rohan32 said:
First off, this should be in the international forums since you are talking about that device. This isn't a forum devoted to AT&T, its to the AT&T HTC One X, which you are not purchasing.
Secondly, no, they do not have the same IMEI since they are completely different devices.
And thirdly, I would expect it to pull HSPA+ since I believe it is marketed that way.
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You could have been a bit easier on the guy don't you think? Sure you answered his question but why so harsh? The guy has 2 post for crying out loud and both in this thread!
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HTC One X on T-Mobile

Hi I've got a HTC One X UK Rooted and I want to use this in the USA on the T-Mobile network but the 4G or GPRS will not work, has anybody done the MOD as done on the HTC Sensation.
sack51 said:
Hi I've got a HTC One X UK Rooted and I want to use this in the USA on the T-Mobile network but the 4G or GPRS will not work, has anybody done the MOD as done on the HTC Sensation.
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Just go to AT&T...You will get useless 2G/EDGE on Tmobile(USA). Or you can just sell the HOX and buy a Tmobile phone.
Ace42 said:
Just go to AT&T...You will get useless 2G/EDGE on Tmobile(USA). Or you can just sell the HOX and buy a Tmobile phone.
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I'd rather keep my Quad core HTC One X and get 4G on T-Mobile but thanks
But you won't get 4G/HSPA with a Euro HOAX, you need the US Tmobile 4G device...Your phone can get ATT 4G though, and ATT compatible phones don't get 3G/4G on Tmobile(hence me mentioning AT&T).
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I'd rather keep my Quad core HTC One X and get 4G on T-Mobile but thanks
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The S4 CPU in the AT&T version of the One X is actually faster and more power efficient than the Tegra 3. Heck, Nvidia has gotten lots of criticism for not releasing the source code (or something like that) for their Tegra CPUs, so I think the best thing you can do is trade your European HOX for the AT&T version (and if you decide to switch carriers as well, you'll get LTE too).
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Tips and tricks?

I just received the HOX as a Christmas gift coming from the HTC sensation I know my way around the phone, I'm just curious if their are any specific things about this phone that are different and new in terms of functionality and hidden surprises? Happy holidays my fellow one x users!
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ThizizKenny said:
I just received the HOX as a Christmas gift coming from the HTC sensation I know my way around the phone, I'm just curious if their are any specific things about this phone that are different and new in terms of functionality and hidden surprises? Happy holidays my fellow one x users!
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One very important thing first. Please make sure you are aware if your phone is S4 (dual core, aka one xl) or Tegra 3 (quad core) before flashing anything. S4 is att/rogers/telstra (basically the forum you are in). Tegra 3 is the international version.
In the past, Canadians had what were referred to as international phones (gsm), but not with the one xl.
If you look around you will see that flashing the wrong firmware has been a serious problem.
Enjoy!
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One very important thing first. Please make sure you are aware if your phone is S4 (dual core, aka one xl) or Tegra 3 (quad core) before flashing anything. S4 is att/rogers/telstra (basically the forum you are in). Tegra 3 is the international version.
In the past, Canadians had what were referred to as international phones (gsm), but not with the one xl.
If you look around you will see that flashing the wrong firmware has been a serious problem.
Enjoy!
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Att is gsm
I like the idea of a sim card. Down with Verizon! Lol
Kenny, if you flash anything for the other phone, there is a chance yours will never work again. Don't be a victim
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Att is gsm
I like the idea of a sim card. Down with Verizon! Lol
Kenny, if you flash anything for the other phone, there is a chance yours will never work again. Don't be a victim
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Yes, I know. I was just saying that a with a lot of other phones gsm is considered an international phone.
For example, TMo had the G2, which was cdma, and the Desire Z was the "international" (gsm) model. So in the past, HTC has a history of just the two variants being categorized that way.
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Hmm... As for hidden suprises, not knowing if your phone is the dual or quad core will really mess you up (as said above) lol.
The keyboard is kinda cool since you can swipe with it. That was new to me. It's also suprising how fast the phone is once you put jellybean sense on it.
Gotta use twrp instead of cwm.
Screen is kinda easy to break so don't drop your phone.
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Concidering quad cores aren't supported on Canadas network, I know I have the duel core model, plus it says it on the box , as for the screen break, I really gotta go get me a case soon lol
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Happy holidays.
As far as tips and tricks.
If you love Sense try VenomXL
If you love AOSP try JellyBam.
Those are the best tricked out roms with awesome performance.
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Yes, I know. I was just saying that a with a lot of other phones gsm is considered an international phone.
For example, TMo had the G2, which was cdma, and the Desire Z was the "international" (gsm) model. So in the past, HTC has a history of just the two variants being categorized that way.
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I think you are getting some things mixed up. Tmobile's network has never, ever been CDMA. The major CDMA carriers in the US are Verizon and Sprint.
The G2 had WCDMA, which is in reference to it's data and not the voice network. WCDMA is also known as UMTS and is found on many GSM phones.
Point being, GSM does not suggest that the phone is international by any means. Also, the TMo G2 had a SIM card (of course, this was because it was a GSM phone).
G2 = GSM phone = US Version
Desire Z = GSM phone = International Version
Oh, also to clear up any other confusion, the HTC One XL on ATT/Rogers/Telstra as well as the international One X are all also GSM and all have SIM cards.
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I think you are getting some things mixed up. Tmobile's network has never, ever been CDMA. The major CDMA carriers in the US are Verizon and Sprint.
The G2 had WCDMA, which is in reference to it's data and not the voice network. WCDMA is also known as UMTS and is found on many GSM phones.
Point being, GSM does not suggest that the phone is international by any means. Also, the TMo G2 had a SIM card (of course, this was because it was a GSM phone).
G2 = GSM phone = US Version
Desire Z = GSM phone = International Version
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Ah, you are right. Thanks for clarifying. Sorry for the misinformation. My bad.
Edit: just deleted all that because I can summarize it in one or two sentences.
Some people have the misconception that gsm and international are interchangeable. I was only trying to address that, esp. Because its been a blurry issue for some Canadian users.
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If his phone says "AT&T" at the top of the screen... It's the HTC One XL. Dual core is At&T us version. Quad-core is international...
If he got an HTC one x plus.... Then I'm jelly lmao
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Megadoug13 said:
If his phone says "AT&T" at the top of the screen... It's the HTC One XL. Dual core is At&T us version. Quad-core is international...
If he got an HTC one x plus.... Then I'm jelly lmao
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There's not much to be jelly about except the storage amount
More storage would be awesome though... I can only keep two or three backups with 16gb, because they're like 1-2 gb themselves... Anyway, to the OP, Otterbox is a great case, and CM10 is an awesome ROM.
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More storage would be awesome though... I can only keep two or three backups with 16gb, because they're like 1-2 gb themselves... Anyway, to the OP, Otterbox is a great case, and CM10 is an awesome ROM.
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But really, how many backups do you need on your device at any given time. 1, 2 maybe.
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Mine poops all over my bro in law's X+.
Just sayin....
But his isnt rooted lol.. but shhh.. let me enjoy my throne
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one piece of advice, flash a jellybean rom as soon as possible, it kicks ICS's butt.
Do not upgrade to software 2.20. If you have AT&T and your software number is 1.85, stay there! This was my first mistake and now I have to flash boot.imgs manually.

Unlocked One A9 on Verizon--CDMA support coming soon?

So the unlocked One A9 has me intrigued, as it seems like the right device to replace my aging One M8 while waiting for my 2 year upgrade in April. I'm hoping we'll see some decent carrier subsidized Snapdragon 820 devices by mid 2016, but if I need to wait longer the A9 can tide me over. I like that for $399, I get 32GB plus expandable storage, something that I can't get for that price with either the Nexus 5X or Moto X Pure Edition.
My dilemma is trying to figure out if Verizon support "coming December" means we'll actually get CDMA in addition to LTE bands with the software update. The preorder price of $399 only goes to November 7, so it's a bit of a gamble for Verizon customers. Based on the spec sheet, I'm assuming there are 2 different SKUs when it comes to radio/antenna support: the Unlocked/AT&T/T-Mobile/Verizon version, and the Sprint version. Only the Sprint version lists support for CDMA, but notice they reference 3 bands: BC0, BC1, and BC10. My understanding is that Sprint supports BC1 and BC10, while Verizon supports BC0 and BC1.
So did HTC just leave off the CDMA support from the Unlocked/ATT/TMo/Verizon spec sheet pending the software update? Are the 2 SKUs actually physically distinct (I know Qualcomm uses soft radios now but antennas may still need to be configured differently?) There are 2 other possibilities--Verizon could be getting a unique SKU of their own in December (with LTE + CDMA) or you may be left with VoLTE only. Since this isn't a "branded" phone and requirements have changed, VoLTE only is possible but I can't imagine consumers would be happy with it. And it doesn't make sense that Sprint would get their own SKU when a bigger market like Verizon doesn't?
Samsies
jakesteed said:
So the unlocked One A9 has me intrigued, as it seems like the right device to replace my aging One M8 while waiting for my 2 year upgrade in April. I'm hoping we'll see some decent carrier subsidized Snapdragon 820 devices by mid 2016, but if I need to wait longer the A9 can tide me over. I like that for $399, I get 32GB plus expandable storage, something that I can't get for that price with either the Nexus 5X or Moto X Pure Edition.
My dilemma is trying to figure out if Verizon support "coming December" means we'll actually get CDMA in addition to LTE bands with the software update. The preorder price of $399 only goes to November 7, so it's a bit of a gamble for Verizon customers. Based on the spec sheet, I'm assuming there are 2 different SKUs when it comes to radio/antenna support: the Unlocked/AT&T/T-Mobile/Verizon version, and the Sprint version. Only the Sprint version lists support for CDMA, but notice they reference 3 bands: BC0, BC1, and BC10. My understanding is that Sprint supports BC1 and BC10, while Verizon supports BC0 and BC1.
So did HTC just leave off the CDMA support from the Unlocked/ATT/TMo/Verizon spec sheet pending the software update? Are the 2 SKUs actually physically distinct (I know Qualcomm uses soft radios now but antennas may still need to be configured differently?) There are 2 other possibilities--Verizon could be getting a unique SKU of their own in December (with LTE + CDMA) or you may be left with VoLTE only. Since this isn't a "branded" phone and requirements have changed, VoLTE only is possible but I can't imagine consumers would be happy with it. And it doesn't make sense that Sprint would get their own SKU when a bigger market like Verizon doesn't?
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Im in the exact same boat. I am still not getting straight answers from anybody I'm asking. If you run an unlocked version on Verizon and be forced to LTE usage only, that isn't gonna cut it. I drop to 3g all the time. Would they say hunt for WiFi? I have spoke with a rep from HTC and she told me Verizon is going to release their own version. And that she did NOT recommend to purchase the unlocked a9 and expect to get full features from the network. Ive heard people asking Verizon reps and they are saying the phone will work with the CDMA span. I'm not sure who knows what
Im copying this from HTCs page .
Network1
Unlocked, AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; 4G LTE:<:strong> FDD 2,3,4,5,7,12,13,17,29
Sprint: 2G GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900; 3G UMTS 850/AWS(1700)/1900/2100; 4G LTE: FDD 2,4,5,12,25,26 TDD: 41
Some info here:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-One-A9-will-be-available-on-Verizon-in-December_id75199
Aloha,
I have decided to bring this back to the forefront as the month of December is here. I purchased the a9 and yes I'm on the Vzw network. I have called HTC and asked when the compatibility software release for vzw be available. It's funny because HTC tells me vzw will release it and to check with them. I called vzw and the tell me they know nothing about software to be release for a non vzw phone. Can I get a straight answer from HTC? What's the deal??! Has anyone else contacted HTC ?? Would you care to share their response to you.
devilman30 said:
Aloha,
I have decided to bring this back to the forefront as the month of December is here. I purchased the a9 and yes I'm on the Vzw network. I have called HTC and asked when the compatibility software release for vzw be available. It's funny because HTC tells me vzw will release it and to check with them. I called vzw and the tell me they know nothing about software to be release for a non vzw phone. Can I get a straight answer from HTC? What's the deal?! Has anyone else contacted HTC ?? Would you care to share their response to you.
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I'm in the same boat here. I purchased my phone to use on the VZ network. Im using my M7 to hold me over. Hoping i didnt purchase i paper weight
jbea007 said:
I'm in the same boat here. I purchased my phone to use on the VZ network. Im using my M7 to hold me over. Hoping i didnt purchase i paper weight
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Mahalo for your input. I hope this thread gets enough attention to where HTC will either honor the returns from VZW customers or provide the update soon. We need to continue to push HTC for a quick resolution!
They sent an email a few weeks ago saying support for Verizon was going to be delayed, with no ETA...so it's a no-go for December...lucky if we see it by January/February.
Shoot, let me have the update so I can test it for goodness sakes!!! VZW sucks...I'm bailing on them in 12 months...done with it.
Called HTC today to find out what the latest news for the VZW software compatible release is at. They told me that it will be sometime in the first quarter of 2016?. They couldn't give an exact date just first quarter. I told the rep that I would like to see if they can start the refund process. The rep told me that since I bought the phone in November that the time elapsed to start a refund. REALLY... I told the rep I haven't been able to use the phone and for HTC now saying first quarter... this means that it might be up to 6 months after purchase before I could even use the phone. I'm taking it to the next level and plan to call a higher up in the food chain. I have been using HTC phones for years, and don't understand how you can say that the phone is VZW compatible and continue to delay. This should have all been worked out prior to launch. They would have been better off saying that this phone is not for VZW. If this is the stance HTC is going to take with VZW customers they just lost my business!
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Called HTC today to find out what the latest news for the VZW software compatible release is at. They told me that it will be sometime in the first quarter of 2016. They couldn't give an exact date just first quarter. I told the rep that I would like to see if they can start the refund process. The rep told me that since I bought the phone in November that the time elapsed to start a refund. REALLY... I told the rep I haven't been able to use the phone and for HTC now saying first quarter... this means that it might be up to 6 months after purchase before I could even use the phone. I'm taking it to the next level and plan to call a higher up in the food chain. I have been using HTC phones for years, and don't understand how you can say that the phone is VZW compatible and continue to delay. This should have all been worked out prior to launch. They would have been better off saying that this phone is not for VZW. If this is the stance HTC is going to take with VZW customers they just lost my business!
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Good point. It should have been worked out prior to launch. But check this out. I put my VZW sim in today and I get 4g LTE BUT I can not make phone calls .Only surf the net. I never noticed that before.
jbea007 said:
Good point. It should have been worked out prior to launch. But check this out. I put my VZW sim in today and I get 4g LTE BUT I can not make phone calls .Only surf the net. I never noticed that before.
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That was my exact fear...I ended up getting a Moto X Pure instead for the CDMA support. The issue is that VoLTE (what Verizon calls "Advanced Calling 1.0") isn't supported on unlocked (non-Verizon) devices yet. Case in point...my Moto X Pure won't support VoLTE even though its fully capable of it. Why Verizon doesn't support yet...I'm not sure. I think eventually they *have* to allow VoLTE on unlocked devices to comply with FCC conditions on the 700mhz spectrum. I'm guessing that's what is delaying HTC's support--probably has nothing to do with HTC, but they're waiting for Verizon to expand support.
Glad when I switched over to VZW 12 months ago, I took advantage of the discounts for switching, got wife/kids new iPhones on payment plan, just buy my phones outright, but I'm in a no-comitment contract for them. Only thing is the iPhones we owe 12 months of payments on. So really, I can just pay the difference/payoff of the iPhone, and walk away from Verizon.
Right now, I put a cricket plan/sim on my A9 just to use it and have an operational phone. At this rate from what you guys have said/HTC is saying, VZW is a black hole and useless carrier.
Probably jumping ship, going back to ATT...with the offers to leave carriers/promos...no reason to stay with VZW. We are stuck with the 10GB share plan from 12 months ago they ran to attract people from other carriers. Now, TMo and a few are offering even more data, and just need to leave your carrier.
Every month we are busting through it and getting additional charges. Just need to run away from VZW. Nothing really wrong with the service/performance, but it is nothing but problems for their phones/devices like Android. This entire HTC One A9 is a classic VZW problem for Android users. Phones/devices have support for their network (the A9 supposedly soon), but the carrier/VZW is the problem. Not to mention all the other issues with VZW, updates blah blah and their control freak nature.
No contract = bye-bye VZW for me soon. Shoot, I can likely just switch to another carrier, get a $1/month iPhone for wife/kids each, pay off their phones, and put them up for sales and walk away from VZW for basically a break-even, BUT, have three new iPhone 6s for them. At this rate, maybe I will go back to the iPhone...the v3 was the last one I owned...rofl.
Yeah...Anyway....first quarter...pfffft. Done with your Verizon..and HTC is about to chase me away as well at this rate.
Rant over!!!!
jakesteed said:
That was my exact fear...I ended up getting a Moto X Pure instead for the CDMA support. The issue is that VoLTE (what Verizon calls "Advanced Calling 1.0") isn't supported on unlocked (non-Verizon) devices yet. Case in point...my Moto X Pure won't support VoLTE even though its fully capable of it.
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The Moto X Pure does support Verizon VoLTE. I've been using it since launch.
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jbea007 said:
Good point. It should have been worked out prior to launch. But check this out. I put my VZW sim in today and I get 4g LTE BUT I can not make phone calls .Only surf the net. I never noticed that before.
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Do you have advanced calling enabled on your account? Make sure it is then check in the phone settings to see if VoLTE or enhanced 4glte mode is on
sprke said:
The Moto X Pure does support Verizon VoLTE. I've been using it since launch.
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Do you have advanced calling enabled on your account? Make sure it is then check in the phone settings to see if VoLTE or enhanced 4glte mode is on
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Well I'll be a monkey's uncle... Sure enough just had to add the feature to my account and power cycle...VoLTE is now on!
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jakesteed said:
Well I'll be a monkey's uncle... Sure enough just had to add the feature to my account and power cycle...VoLTE is now on!
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Aloha jakesteed,
So let me get this straight your VZW and your running A9 on vollte? No software update required?
Mahalo
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devilman30 said:
Aloha jakesteed,
So let me get this straight your VZW and your running A9 on vollte? No software update required?
Mahalo
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Sorry, not an A9 but a Moto X Pure Edition. I passed on the A9.
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Has anyone been successful at activating the A9 on Verizon yet?
HungrryEzhik said:
Has anyone been successful at activating the A9 on Verizon yet?
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Still waiting for HTC to release software update to VZW.
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Still waiting for HTC to release software update to VZW.
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Why wait? Just put your sim in and enable VoLTE/"Advanced Calling 1.0" on my.verizon.com as sprke suggested.
^There's no option for 1.0 VoLTE calling on their site. They call it HD Voice, which is the VoLTE, and it doesn't work even enabled on my phone.
techlogik said:
^There's no option for 1.0 VoLTE calling on their site. They call it HD Voice, which is the VoLTE, and it doesn't work even enabled on my phone.
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Yes, it's seems they renamed "Advanced Calling 1.0" to "HD Voice", but it doesn't matter, both are just how they call VoLTE.
What do you mean it doesn't work? What happens if you make a call?
Did you enable Enhanced 4G LTE Mode in Cellular network settings? Also try to reboot the phone.
EDIT: Correction, it's Mobile Data -> Voice over LTE, not Cellular network settings -> Enhanced 4G LTE Mode.
Another thing to try:
1. Enter the hidden menu using *#*#4636#*#*
2. Go in to Phone information
3. Click the TURN ON VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG button (wont change)
4. Click the TURN OFF RADIO button
5. Wait a few seconds (for radio to turn off) and then click the TURN ON RADIO button
6. Observe that the TURN ON VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG button has changed to TURN OFF
7. Make sure VoLTE is turned on in the menu

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