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I don't own an MT4G or Panache, but I started this thread for the inevitable arrival of Mobilicity & Videotron customers who would like to mod an HTC Panache. Once the MyTouch 4G Gingerbread update came out, it was found that the Fre3vo root exploit (originally found for the Sensation/Evo 3D) will also temp-root this phone. To get S-OFF you have to roll back to an old Froyo MT4G firmware - from there you can roll back forward to anything you want.
Differences between MT4G Gingerbread and Panache for the purpose of this thread:
- Panache requires a gold card because the ROM you roll back to comes from a different carrier.
- Your preferences in terms of what ROM to put on your phone after S-OFF may be different from T-Mobile customers - ergo, discuss here if this is an issue.
Thanks to jgobeil for posting the guide in post #98:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16858971&postcount=98
Jgobeil said:
Hi,
Now that the rooting guide for the Panache is completed and posted, may I suggest that you update the first post of the Panache thread to refer newcomers to this thread to post #98 where the guide is.
This will make it easy for these people and maybe avoid costly mistakes.
Best regards and thanks for your help.
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If Gingerbreak will work on it, that would be the only difference, instead rooting with Visionary+, they'll root with Gingerbreak and proceed with the same S-OFF guide, hopefully flashing engineering bootloader.
Jack_R1 said:
If Gingerbreak will work on it, that would be the only difference, instead rooting with Visionary+, they'll root with Gingerbreak and proceed with the same S-OFF guide, hopefully flashing engineering bootloader.
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What is gingerbreak??? Is there a new rooting method called gingerbreak?
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cmstlist said:
I don't own an MT4G or Panache, but I thought I'd start this thread for the inevitable arrival of Mobilicity & Videotron customers who would like to mod an HTC Panache.
Since it has launched with Gingerbread, I am guessing the initial root steps will be a little different. If any MT4G devs have any idea what Panache users should try differently, post it here.
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Dude then why the hell did you start this if you don't own one? Stick to your own forum!
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mark manning said:
Dude then why the hell did you start this if you don't own one? Stick to your own forum!
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Because I'm Canadian and using one of the new AWS carriers here, so I want to know as much as I can about the devices they release
Jack_R1 said:
If Gingerbreak will work on it, that would be the only difference, instead rooting with Visionary+, they'll root with Gingerbreak and proceed with the same S-OFF guide, hopefully flashing engineering bootloader.
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There is someone else here on the forum who flashed the entire firmware of the Panache onto his MT4G and was unable to re-root with Gingerbreak even for temp root. Fortunately the user in question had Radio S-OFF so was eventually able to fix it. But this hints that Gingerbreak won't work.
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There is someone else here on the forum who flashed the entire firmware of the Panache onto his MT4G and was unable to re-root with Gingerbreak even for temp root. Fortunately the user in question had Radio S-OFF so was eventually able to fix it. But this hints that Gingerbreak won't work.
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That was me. And yes, none of the rooting methods out there will work on panache (including gingerbreak by SOC) firmware. I had to hboot-flash the stock 2.2.1 firmware and then was able to root.
chem.manish said:
That was me. And yes, none of the rooting methods out there will work on panache (including gingerbreak by SOC) firmware. I had to hboot-flash the stock 2.2.1 firmware and then was able to root.
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Thanks for clarifying. Of course you had S-OFF and the Mobi/Vtron Panache comes S-ON. So this leaves an open question of what is the first step to root the Panache.
chem.manish said:
That was me. And yes, none of the rooting methods out there will work on panache (including gingerbreak by SOC) firmware. I had to hboot-flash the stock 2.2.1 firmware and then was able to root.
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I just wanted to ask - you said you tried Gingerbreak and it didn't work. My question is, did you check if it at least provided you with temp root? Or it did nothing at all?
I got rooted. Just installed Rom manager to flash recovery and all is fine.
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atifsh said:
I got rooted. Just installed Rom manager to flash recovery and all is fine.
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Could you explain all the steps you took to achieve this on the Panache?
I just read your thread and it looks like you actually had a MT4G running the Panache ROM. But was your phone already S-OFF? If so, that'd probably explain why Gingerbreak worked. Not sure that'd fly on a factory Installed Panache.
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Details on post I started, but its glacier used panache RUU.
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Yes it was s-off, but another user who did that could'nt root though he also was s-off
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I see. So it's still not clear what will or won't work with a factory S-ON Panache.
It's reported that Gingerbreak does not work with S-ON Panache, but what's unclear is whether it can still be used to achieve temp root. If it can, this suggests a way to force it to an earlier T-Mo RUU which will permit the use of the S-OFF kernel exploit.
as far i know, both are same hardware and you dont need s-off to use factory RUU. thus if i can use panache RUU regardless of s-off i can flash mytouch 4g RUU on panache.
atifsh said:
as far i know, both are same hardware and you dont need s-off to use factory RUU. thus if i can use panache RUU regardless of s-off i can flash mytouch 4g RUU on panache.
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You need at the very least temproot to edit the "misc" partition before flashing an older version bootloader RUU, otherwise it will reject it. Since it is not yet established that temproot works on factory S-ON Panache, there is no established way to downgrade the RUU. So there is still no clear pathway yet.
If you say so though I still think u dont need any sort of root for official RUU.exe
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An official RUU will fail, even with a gold card, if it's an older version than the current bootloader. All MT4G official firmwares are older than the Panache's. The only way around this is a root hack.
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cmstlist said:
An official RUU will fail, even with a gold card, if it's an older version than the current bootloader. All MT4G official firmwares are older than the Panache's. The only way around this is a root hack.
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ok i didnt know that, i thought its more like flashing a bios where it says u have this ver and willflash this
Okay so I see on the Mobilicity and Videotron Panache that it has peak speeds of 21 Mbps whereas the MT4G is 14.4, did they make a hardware change or is this in the firmware?
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I just wanted to ask - you said you tried Gingerbreak and it didn't work. My question is, did you check if it at least provided you with temp root? Or it did nothing at all?
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No, it didnt even temp root. As i said earlier i did not have a true s-off. I even tried flashing cwm through fastboot but bootloader didnt allow that (it should have if i had a true s-off).
Ok I can't find where anyone has already asked this so here goes:
Is there a way to root the Sensation WITHOUT getting s-off as I don't want s-off
sounds weird but don't bother asking why I don't want s-off
Links would be much appreciated!
Simply... no. When we first got our phones teamwin had a temp root available before AlphaRev x gave us s-off. But HTC corrected the exploit quickly after that and no one really is deving a temp root anymore because s-off is the way to go. To gain root access you need either a security exploit (freevo by team win, which got corrected an no other has been found) or an unlocked boot loader (AlphaRev, s-off).
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The official HTC method will unlock your bootloader without giving you s-off
http://htcdev.com/bootloader
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OK i stand corrected. I have no experience w the HTC unlock method. But if you still want your warranty I advise against the HTC method. I don't know if they have came straight out and said it voids your warranty, but if you have a problem later I'd bet they'll see you used it and try to BS you.
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i am using HTC Sensation. I want to update its ROM, please tell me which ROM should be selected...
I am interested to install icecream sandwich with HTC Sense.....
Also please tell me how to install ROM in HTC Sensation...
Thanks...
oneandonly said:
i am using HTC Sensation. I want to update its ROM, please tell me which ROM should be selected...
I am interested to install icecream sandwich with HTC Sense.....
Also please tell me how to install ROM in HTC Sensation...
Thanks...
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Hi,
Are you s-off?
malybru said:
Hi,
Are you s-off?
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what's this?
i purchased in november 2011...
Read read read read read before u try anything. Just fyi. Learn about what you doing and what it does to your phone. Learn how to recover and backup. Jumping into this game isn't easy. And could brick your phone. But for starters you need to check here revolutionary.io to unlock, root, and install recovery. Also get S-OFF aka security off. Aka locked boot loader.
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oneandonly said:
what's this?
i purchased in november 2011...
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As RANDYRKELLY says: First thing is to read carefully, understand and learn. Search this forum for everything about rooting, s-off and flushing ROMS. There are great step-by-step how-to's in here, so that there's no need to explain it once more in a separate thread.
You should start here for example: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Yes, it is said to read well and understand that you want to do and unlock the boot with better revolutionary than http://htcdev.com/, good luck
kenox7 said:
Yes, it is said to read well and understand that you want to do and unlock the boot with better revolutionary than http://htcdev.com/, good luck
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Do not use the htc unlock. Will not give you read write state. U need to use revolutionary cause it roots, unlock boot loader, and installs recovery. Please don't miss lead him.
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I said that after http://htcdev.com/ will not be able to flash custom kernel, and unlock a better revolutionary
your best bet is to stick to xda it has everything you need to root and flash whatever you want there are alot of threads that will explain what root off is and how to get it. it will aslo explain how to flash roms, and what that is good luck you can always post here in the q&a with any problems you have
thanks randy & kaym....
anyways its S-off...
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Do not use the htc unlock. Will not give you read write state. U need to use revolutionary cause it roots, unlock boot loader, and installs recovery. Please don't miss lead him.
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Actually, your the one misleading people, revolutionary doesnt actually root a phone, it just gives an unlocked bootloader. Installing superuser from market is what gives apps root and a line in the build.prop file gives the user root permissions
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Sorry for asking about this, I've searched around and find there are various posted and not sure which is correct one now.
I just got back a HTC Sensation from repaired that they replaced. IT comes with ICS already installed....so now I want to root it so I can unlock to use with other phone companies. I don't plan on using custom ROMs and would like to be able to receive future updates.
What's the best way to root the phone with this new firmware already installed? Can someone point me to the right guide? I see there's some all in one tool and also about unlocking the bootloader via the DevTool but I prefer not to lose warranty.
Thanks for the help
Well if your hboot is 1.27 you will need to head on over to HTC dev to unlock the boatloader and once you accomplish that install a custom recovery I would recommend 4ext and make sure smart flash is enabled and now you have two options you can root the stock Rom or you can download a custom Rom and if your comfortable with doing the wire trick to s off
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jslim38 said:
Well if your hboot is 1.27 you will need to head on over to HTC dev to unlock the boatloader and once you accomplish that then you need to flash a custom recovery I my self would recommend 4ext and when thats done install super su so you will have root and if your comfortable with doing the wire trick to s off
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So the only way to root is to unlock bootloader from HTC Dev first? All I want to do is get root so I can unlock the phone sim lock right now!
You got it
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newr said:
So the only way to root is to unlock bootloader from HTC Dev first? All I want to do is get root so I can unlock the phone sim lock right now!
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Hi,
Check HERE
Also I notice that you mentioned sim unlock you don't need to be rooted to unlock your sim unlocking your sim is referring to making your device carrier free meaning if in the U S you will have your choice of GSM carriers to choose from depending on how far you go with the sim unlocking process you could free it up from tmo and that will allow you to transition over to AT&T or you could free it up free it up for all gsm carriers like straight talk and your now there's is a script I saw in the dev section to unlock your sim I my self haven't tested it yet I can hunt it down for you if that's what your looking for however to run this script yes you will need to be rooted
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Hi,
For sim unlock,look HERE
and maybe HERE
Malybru as given you two links and those are what your looking for and as I stated in a previous post you will need to have your device unlock and rooted to run that script so your your main focus right now is to unlock your bootloader and install custom recovery and then root your device and you may have to s off your device to run that script as I haven't tryed the script yet so be sure to read up on it more before running the script
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I plan on rooting a friends Inspire 4g and I was wondering which method should I use to root the phone? I understand there are 2 different ways. It's an HTC Inspire 4g 2.3.5 with the build number 3.20.502.52 cl380259. I can't seem to find any recent ways to find out how to do this except this on here:
http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=88
Is that the only way to do it now? I have experience with rooting. I've rooted 2 HTC arias in the past along with a moto back flip and atrix 2, so I do have rooting and flashing experience. Im just trying to get some more info before doing this. Thanks for any and all help.
Yes, you would need to do it that way for S-Off. You could also unlock the boot loader with HTCDEV only, but you will be S-On and get fewer options that way.
bananagranola said:
Yes, you would need to do it that way for S-Off. You could also unlock the boot loader with HTCDEV only, but you will be S-On and get fewer options that way.
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Well I plan to only flash one rom on this device and never mess with it again. Preferably CM9/10. I don't plan on messing with different roms after that. So if I root using HTCDEV, will I be able to flash one of those ROMS?
Yes. You will need to fastboot flash boot.img separately after the ROM.
Banana gave me a link for AAHK and its better, I have s off and unlocked bootloader.....I've never used HTC dev unlock
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Jrhodes85 said:
Banana gave me a link for AAHK and its better, I have s off and unlocked bootloader.....I've never used HTC dev unlock
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Then you don't have an unlocked bootloader. You are S-OFF, which means that the nand partition security is off now. That allows you to flash anything you want...much better than an unlock bootloader only.
Help please
I am on the same build.succed in unlocking boot loader by HTCDEV.But cant flash the boot image as mension here http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=88.
What to do ?
thank in advance.
alfi07 said:
I am on the same build.succed in unlocking boot loader by HTCDEV.But cant flash the boot image as mension here http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=88.
What to do ?
thank in advance.
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Why not? what is the problem you are having to flash the boot image?
Jrhodes85 said:
Banana gave me a link for AAHK and its better, I have s off and unlocked bootloader.....I've never used HTC dev unlock
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glevitan said:
Then you don't have an unlocked bootloader. You are S-OFF, which means that the nand partition security is off now. That allows you to flash anything you want...much better than an unlock bootloader only.
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So if I just root and have S-OFF without having an unlocked bootloader, I can flash any ROM of my choosing? That seems like it's the best way to go or the easiest at least. Could you give me or mind PM'ing me the AAHK that you used Jrhodes?
Check the thread linked in my signature.
HELP with the rom
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I am on the same build.succed in unlocking boot loader by HTCDEV.But cant flash the boot image as mension here http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=88.
What to do ?
thank in advance.
Why not? what is the problem you are having to flash the boot image?
I am not able to flash the boot.img in any way.Before trying the hack kit.
Thanks
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baySF said:
So if I just root and have S-OFF without having an unlocked bootloader, I can flash any ROM of my choosing? That seems like it's the best way to go or the easiest at least. Could you give me or mind PM'ing me the AAHK that you used Jrhodes?
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I used the link glev gave me. On a side note I'm trying to understand radios and how to flash em...i haven't changed the radio yet but I'm using T-Mobile and I don't get signal..I'm probably just going to switch to at&t next month.
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Is it possible to root an AT&T Inspire 4G? My friend has one and I was gonna try and help him.. is it anything like unlocking and rooting the Galaxy S3? I cant find much on the process..
droidxxxxx said:
Is it possible to root an AT&T Inspire 4G? My friend has one and I was gonna try and help him.. is it anything like unlocking and rooting the Galaxy S3? I cant find much on the process..
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Yes. If http://tau.shadowchild.nl/attn1/?p=88 applies read it. If not just use AAHK from the same site. I don't know anything about how the GS3 is unlocked. The link in my signature (to the thread in the DHD forums, which is the international variant of the same phone) will help.
Google play store has this one app for an easy root Samsung ordeal, I've seen it and was going to try and use it when I was thinking about getting a Samsung galaxy S
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Jrhodes85 said:
Google play store has this one app for an easy root Samsung ordeal, I've seen it and was going to try and use it when I was thinking about getting a Samsung galaxy S
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Wrong forum.