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ICS and Transformer?

Is there anything official on whether or not the Transformer will get the 4.0 OS update when/if it is released in the next couple of months?
If not official what is the general consensus?
Thanks!

You sounded so much more "positive" in your other post.

That's because I'm a freaking newbie here! I also read a link since then in the other post where it looks like Google is pretty much requiring 18 months for updates on Android devices so I'll say it here to since no one else will... The answer is YES!

One thing is for sure: if you root your TF, you'll have ICS.

I thought that it was only required to be a part of that new alliance or whatever it's called. Asus isn't part of that alliance is it? However, all that aside, I would be shocked if we didn't get it. Asus has been the best at getting updates out of any manufacturer that I've seen so far.
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kingoanklebreakn said:
Asus isn't part of that alliance is it?
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Asus is a member (handset manufacturers): http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/oha_members.html

Not much is known about ICS, other than that it is a combination of Honeycomb and Gingerbread. The Nexus Prime is coming out soon, which will be the first ICS device, so we can only wait.

i'd be willing to put money on Asus upgrading to ice cream sandwich. They seem pretty committed to the transformer and have been quick to bring out updates. The fact the latest update gave us the choice to change the mouse cursor on the dock (after many complaints) shows they're paying attention to what people are saying.

[Q] Eee Pad Transformer Unsupported ?!

Just wondering since the "New" Eee Pad Transformer was teased...
Will Asus continue to support the old Transformer or not ?
and for how long it will get Updates and stuff ??

Nobody can tell the future, so I hope your question is answered. ASUS will push updates IMO, until they can do it without issues to the Tegra2 SoC.

Sounds like a good question to email Asus... unless of course Asus is here to reply.

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Sounds like a good question to email Asus... unless of course Asus is here to reply.
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Not a chance. Big companies often don't converse with the community.
Look, to answer the OP, Shih (the chairman of asus) has already said the TF1 will be getting ICS update sometime in November. This is a clear indication it will continue be supported.
Tegra 2 won't be obsolete anytime soon.
That said, if you want the latest and greatest, then sell your TF1 right now and wait for the TF2. Or better yet, sell your TF1 and get an ipad 2.

http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/10/20/a...r-prime-tablet-with-quad-core-nvidia-tegra-3/
Quote from debut.....
" He also let the cat out of the bag for the original Transformer and any Ice Cream Sandwich plans, when asked if ASUS would have it by the end of the year he replied "Maybe earlier than that"."
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Agreed it's all but guarantied that the TF will be getting ICS and from there we leave it up to the Dev community and Roms like CM9 and such

xMini said:
Just wondering since the "New" Eee Pad Transformer was teased...
Will Asus continue to support the old Transformer or not ?
and for how long it will get Updates and stuff ??
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It was in the announcement. They are going to continue to support it for 34 days after they release the TF2 except for you, they are going to stop supporting it for you 10 days before they release the TF2. Sorry, I guess they just don't like you.
/sarcasm. Nobody really knows how long they will but since they will be pushing out ICS and the TF shares its guts with the Xoom (google's reference device) Im betting we will be seeing updates as long as the Xoom does, either officially or unofficially.

Asus just tweeted (it's in another thread as well) that ICS is coming to the Transformer. Case closed.
At this point, given that Asus has been absolutely the best at updating its tablet, we have zero reason to doubt them. I think that when a company has demonstrated their commitment to supporting a device, as Asus has, we should give them the proper credit for doing so.

Yes, Asus has been great. But at some point the updates will eventually stop, that just they way it is. Even then The TF with ICS will still be useful. Not to mention most of us will move on the newer devices.
I can see my TF becoming a secondary device and getting a newer one, but that will likely be well into next year or 2013.

RojasTKD said:
Yes, Asus has been great. But at some point the updates will eventually stop, that just they way it is. Even then The TF with ICS will still be useful. Not to mention most of us will move on the newer devices.
I can see my TF becoming a secondary device and getting a newer one, but that will likely be well into next year or 2013.
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That's Exactly why i asked this Question...
I'm Trying keep this device for two years IF it's possible...
IF they didn't support it for long time and Especially "Tegra2" chip then the device will be almost useless...

will asus ever release an official 4.0.4 or beyond for our TF

Seems like ASUS are pushing out updated builds of 4.0.3, which I'm thinking is their plans to stop development work on the TF101 pretty soon.
Other devices have been running 4.0.4 for some time, and there's probably an imminent 4.0.5 release.
4.0.4 had many fixes over 4.0.3, yet we find ourselves having to use ports, whilst good have inherent issues. But Asus don't seem to be embracing 4.0.4 and that probably means builds beyond that?
Just my two cents.... Glad we have some amazing devs, but without asus drivers we may never have a polished ICS product on our devices.

I think since the 300 and 700 are out/coming soon asus will soon abandon us, but a few more updates should squeeze out.. I hope.

Arobase40 said:
I think Asus worries more about fixing actual 4.0.3 issues before getting into 4.0.4... ^^
If Asus drivers are working with 4.0.3 there is no reason they won't work with custom 4.0.4 ROM...
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That's my point! GPS is awful for me on ICS, yet solid (10+ locks) on HC.

Google has an 18 month support cycle and a 6 month update cycle which asus has agreed to and since the device was released with honeycomb we should see an official jelybean by oct/nov next year. If not we still have CM support now so we will get it that way instead

Arobase40 said:
Well, things were going too fast from Froyo to ICS, so most manufacturers are still not ready with ICS, but hopefully we won't have to wait by oct/nov 2013 for JelyBean...
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Sorry meant to put this year we should have it by october/november 2012 which is about the end of asus's mandatory support cycle

With the TF101 getting incorporated into CM and a variety of AOSP options, do we really need official ASUS support? I mean, EOS 2.0 (among others) is rock solid stable (not reboots/SODs)... which is something that even ASUS couldn't offer to everyone so far!
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Asus (and/or Nvidia) support might be needed for some drivers if the current ones are not compatible with future Android/kernels.

Update 4.2

From what I have read Asus will not update the TF700T to 4.2 until the 2nd quarter of 2013 and I wonder why. I am no developer but isn't it just a kernel flash. I mean why wait so long if its not a complete redo of the android version?
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loner. said:
From what I have read Asus will not update the TF700T to 4.2 until the 2nd quarter of 2013 and I wonder why. I am no developer but isn't it just a kernel flash. I mean why wait so long if its not a complete redo of the android version?
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Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.

king231 said:
Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR LAUGHING!!! Good stuff... can't let infinity users suffer... you are serious?

king231 said:
Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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Dude..... xD
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king231 said:
Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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Awww, F%&#... This made me laugh so hard I think I have ruptured my diaphragm. Might have broken a few ribs as well. If I stop responding for the next five days, I've passed away.
Oh, oh, oh.. the pain...

king231 said:
Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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That's a lot better than Toshiba did with the thrive. Toshiba didn't support it or seem to care.
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It's a bit more than a kernel flash. There are some substantial changes between 4.1 and 4.2

sbdags said:
It's a bit more than a kernel flash. There are some substantial changes between 4.1 and 4.2
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Do you already know if 4.2 is compatible with a 4.1 kernel?

_that said:
Do you already know if 4.2 is compatible with a 4.1 kernel?
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No not yet. Do you want to have a look. I'll set up a link for you.

king231 said:
Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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Hahahahahaha... :laugh: Not letting Infinity users suffer? In which universe?
Anyway, the same thing happened with Jelly Bean. Asus rolled it out to the low and mid-range tablets first as a testrun, and when it worked properly (more or less, I still can't type an é) they send it our way.
I'd rather wait a few more months than get a buggy OS. Besides, I'm already glad Asus decided to incorporate the option to get rid of that horrendous 7"-designed double bar UI.

So it's 6 days in on March, so we expect to see Android 4.2 update for TF700 in 25 days.

the_game_master said:
So it's 6 days in on March, so we expect to see Android 4.2 update for TF700 in 25 days.
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Awesome. Let's just hope asus can get it together and deliver a good update (I know I know... It's not likely). Is sad that many people have had to unlock just to get the value they payed for
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loner. said:
That's a lot better than Toshiba did with the thrive. Toshiba didn't support it or seem to care.
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MartyHulskemper said:
Awww, F%&#... This made me laugh so hard I think I have ruptured my diaphragm. Might have broken a few ribs as well. If I stop responding for the next five days, I've passed away.
Oh, oh, oh.. the pain...
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ray3andrei said:
Dude..... xD
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jordanmw said:
ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR LAUGHING!!! Good stuff... can't let infinity users suffer... you are serious?
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I was talking about any major bugs if they ever existed. When tf300 got jellybean 4.1 the performance went terribly bad and had a hell lot of bugs. But when the update came to infinity some bugs were fixed and the performance was not as bad as it was on tf300. I know that a few ppl are not happy with infinity but the fact is none of the android tablets are totally bug free. If you want something so smooth or something just go with apple. But i bet its not as open as android.

We are all here to get the most from an android tablet, dealing with that stupid fruit company's products is it's own kind of suffering. That said, android could be better on our beloved tabs than Asus has allowed it to be. My father has a 300 and it has gone through growing plains also but I still see them dropping the ball on features on their entire tablet line, I had a 200(but let's not go there). They need to get their act together with this one. I want my HDMI scale and crop options back, and please don't take away my locking task bar again! They should be better at these by now but I disagree that they learned anything from the 300 and took it to the 700. If nothing else, look through the feature changes and issues that people run into on the 200, 300, and 700 updates and you will see that these are completely different development teams. Tien from Asus said it himself, the teams are not working together and some of the changes and features on one model may never get applied to others. That includes fixes.
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king231 said:
I was talking about any major bugs if they ever existed. When tf300 got jellybean 4.1 the performance went terribly bad and had a hell lot of bugs. But when the update came to infinity some bugs were fixed and the performance was not as bad as it was on tf300. I know that a few ppl are not happy with infinity but the fact is none of the android tablets are totally bug free. If you want something so smooth or something just go with apple. But i bet its not as open as android.
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they're also laughing that you implied we tf700 owners get some kind of special treatment and that asus uses tf300 owners as guinea pigs.. that's ridiculous.

dLo GSR said:
they're also laughing that you implied we tf700 owners get some kind of special treatment and that asus uses tf300 owners as guinea pigs.. that's ridiculous.
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Mostly we're laughing because of the I/O issue and the (in the US) poor build quality, and the accents on the keyboard dock that still aren't functioning, and other such issues. Oh, and the WiFi/GPS issue of a certain previous tablet.
Older and lower-range products have always been used as guinea pigs... someone has to be the test group. Makes sense to go with those who paid less for the product.

Yes, I laughed my proverbial ass off at the implication thatwe'll be spared bugs because of 'testing' on the TF300. Firstly, they're different devices, although there are clear parallels. On the TF700 the screen resolution does seem to bring the Tegra3 to its knees far more easily than of the TF300. Furthermore, ASUS has known about the I/O issue for AGES, and athough the TF201 owners were quite vocal about the crappy performance on their devices, ASUS didn't give a **** and put the TF700 out there with identical device genetics and thus the same problems. The only fix they made was the plastic strip that alleviated the WiFi/GPS problems.
So, yes, I found your remark the most entertaining one that day.

MartyHulskemper said:
Yes, I laughed my proverbial ass off at the implication thatwe'll be spared bugs because of 'testing' on the TF300. Firstly, they're different devices, although there are clear parallels. On the TF700 the screen resolution does seem to bring the Tegra3 to its knees far more easily than of the TF300. Furthermore, ASUS has known about the I/O issue for AGES, and athough the TF201 owners were quite vocal about the crappy performance on their devices, ASUS didn't give a **** and put the TF700 out there with identical device genetics and thus the same problems. The only fix they made was the plastic strip that alleviated the WiFi/GPS problems.
So, yes, I found your remark the most entertaining one that day.
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I wonder if this could be cause for class action.
I mean not being able to download a app and browse at the same time for me is a complete disappointment.
I would consider that to be a reasonable expectation of performance, and if this was really a "known" issue with a definitive solution, and was not addressed in a newer model, just seems like we got a lemon and Ausus knew it.
This is my first and only tablet and I don't have a lot of experience with them, but I think the "Browser has stop responding" message all the time when running stock is ridiculous. I know there are workarounds but at $600 dollars for a 3rd Gen tablet we shouldn't need workarounds for basic functionality.
Question: Can the memory be changed by a professional with the proper equipment? or is this a situation where the chips are embedded in the board through a process that can not be undone with out destroying the board?

ASUS support, meh, who needs it.
MartyHulskemper said:
Awww, F%&#... This made me laugh so hard I think I have ruptured my diaphragm. Might have broken a few ribs as well. If I stop responding for the next five days, I've passed away.
Oh, oh, oh.. the pain...
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Agreed, If I'd stayed on stock for the past 8 months my device would be in pieces scattered about my apartment. The rage inducing lag was absurd. Quite happy with the new 10.1 nightlies though. Mmmmm 4.2.
Sometimes I wonder if ASUS realizes that truly interested consumers will just go to places like XDA for support and updates, making them slack at supporting their less ambitious customers. Makes some sense (not cool, but logical)

mc_365 said:
I wonder if this could be cause for class action.
I mean not being able to download a app and browse at the same time for me is a complete disappointment.
I would consider that to be a reasonable expectation of performance......
Question: Can the memory be changed by a professional with the proper equipment? or is this a situation where the chips are embedded in the board through a process that can not be undone with out destroying the board?
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It should be a reasonable expectation with a premium tablet to have a smooth user interface no matter what updates are being downloaded.
And no, a pro that can de-solder a built in nand chip would likely cost you over $600 and probably wouldn't even work.
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Guess: no more updates from Asus?

It's starting to look like there will be no more updates form Asus. I previously had a TF101 and it got updates for about 18 months (as required by Google), then silence from Asus. Feels like that again with TF700. Agree?

hardy81 said:
It's starting to look like there will be no more updates form Asus. I previously had a TF101 and it got updates for about 18 months (as required by Google), then silence from Asus. Feels like that again with TF700. Agree?
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They did an update last month ...... They've done 3 since April. I'll give them to the new year to do one more and then I think it'll be over

Root, custom recovery, custom roms. All the updates you could ever want.
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arclight25 said:
Root, custom recovery, custom roms. All the updates you could ever want.
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Maybe, yes. I'd just like to see the stock updates through. Custom roms are more hassle generally, for one because they constantly update (too often...), and each time something changes. I'd like to minimize the updates, because my life seems to be all about updating some $€r?! device all the time: 2 computers, 2 tablets, 2 phones, router, 2 tv's, music amplifier, the nas... everything wants to get updated.

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Maybe, yes. I'd just like to see the stock updates through. Custom roms are more hassle generally, for one because they constantly update (too often...), and each time something changes. I'd like to minimize the updates, because my life seems to be all about updating some $€r(! device all the time: 2 computers, 2 tablets, 2 phones, router, 2 tv's, music amplifier, the nas... everything wants to get updated.
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But you started the thread to complain Asus are stopping updates..... Lol... Make up her mind!

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But you started the thread to complain Asus are stopping updates..... Lol... Make up her mind!
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No no, I didn't complain, just put the nets to the water to get a feel if there will be stock updates or not. If consensus is not -> custom rom time.

I truly hope that ASUS will bring 4.4 to our tf700, especially because of the low memory footprint that 4.4 introduces. It would be quite ironic to see Android 4.4 reaching the next billion budget devices while our former flagship device does not get it.

I'm pretty sure we'll see kit kat officially, even if it's just so Asus can keep up the reputation of fast updates to help sell 701s
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ishamm said:
I'm pretty sure we'll see kit kat officially, even if it's just so Asus can keep up the reputation of fast updates to help sell 701s
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"We ported KitKat to your old device, now go and buy our new device"
IMHO Asus will port KitKat to the TF701 to help sell 701s.

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"We ported KitKat to your old device, now go and buy our new device"
IMHO Asus will port KitKat to the TF701 to help sell 701s.
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+1 on this, not to mention that we are still waiting for a 4.3 release, Asus said it will come but there's no sign of it.

I'm sure Asus will support the TF300 and TF700 for as long they did the Prime.

htcplussony said:
I'm sure Asus will support the TF300 and TF700 for as long they did the Prime.
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You are aware that the prime never got any updates to JB4.2.1 so that was until JB4.1.1 which was what 18 months max.....
Infinity came out in July 2012.... So we have 2 months left

Check when the Prime and Jellybean 4.2 came out and see if that's 18 months of support.

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Check when the Prime and Jellybean 4.2 came out and see if that's 18 months of support.
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Prime was released in Dec 2011 in the US? Maybe Feb 2012 here in the UK... The last official release from Asus is 10.4.2.18 which was built on Dec 20 2012.
So there you go you get get 12 months or less..... Don't get your hopes up.

Do you people not know that Google itself only supports a device for 18 months?

Some go longer. My S2 using Hong Kong firmware got a update last month. The fruit company supports devices years longer.
But some as giving by the Prime example are way shorter than 18 months.

Since the new TF701T is shipping with 4.2, I wouldn't be holding my breath for 4.4 (or even 4.3) on the TF700T.

I'm certainly not holding my breath for a new TF700 build of anything, but didn't the Tegra 3 Memopad launch six months ago or so? Is that device as similar to the TF700 as the TF300 is?

Again, you only need to look at the Prime and how similar it is to the TF300/700.

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Again, you only need to look at the Prime and how similar it is to the TF300/700.
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Right, but in the early days you could flash TF300 firmware on both devices. I'm saying that if Memopad drivers are similar we might be able to squeeze out OEM driver-level optimizations even after Asus stops officially supporting the TF700.