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[Q] Android 3.1?

Has the transformer received android 3.1 yet because it has become available for tablets like the motorola xoom
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No, not yet. 3.1 was just announced today and is only rolling out to Verizon Xooms. For the moment, no other tablet, including the Wifi Xoom, is getting the update.

Nope. It ain't that easy, unfortunately. Each hardware manufacturer has to fine tune their device to make it compatible with the upgrade, or better phrased, to take advantage of all new features. It's not all Steve Job's happy Apple world out there where one update is good for all devices, no matter if a small or big phone

funnycreature said:
It's not all Steve Job's happy Apple world out there where one update is good for all devices, no matter if a small or big phone
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Wrong ;P iPad/iPhone GSM/iPhone CDMA/iPod Touch use different firmwares.

We have no idea how long they've had access to the 3.1 code or what their process is for testing updates. If they (ASUS) are really proactive about updating, I would think that it would be at least 30 days until we see or hear about an update for the Transformer. If it's sooner, I'll be thrilled.

I highly doubt we'll be getting it this year even. Asus's main priority is (or should be) getting these devices stocked and sold as soon as possible because they'll be taking a huge hit once the Galaxy Tabs become available. They're not even thinking about fixing/upgrading the software.

Itaintrite said:
Wrong ;P iPad/iPhone GSM/iPhone CDMA/iPod Touch use different firmwares.
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See, not even THAT world is perfect LOL

akarol said:
I highly doubt we'll be getting it this year even. Asus's main priority is (or should be) getting these devices stocked and sold as soon as possible because they'll be taking a huge hit once the Galaxy Tabs become available. They're not even thinking about fixing/upgrading the software.
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I don't think they move the guys from software development to shipping/receiving depending on demand...

akarol said:
I highly doubt we'll be getting it this year even. Asus's main priority is (or should be) getting these devices stocked and sold as soon as possible because they'll be taking a huge hit once the Galaxy Tabs become available. They're not even thinking about fixing/upgrading the software.
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Software developement and production are handled by different groups. One wouldn't impact the other. They can work on getting software ready then deliver it via OTA update.

If Asus doesn't provide the update within a month, or announces soon that that they're working on it and it will be out soon, this will be going up for sale for either the Xoom (again) or the Galaxy Tab 10.1.

Yep, same here. I'll wait for something else...
And they had better be working on updates, at least fixing the 60%+ of people who can't use their dock doorstops...
Bugs are part of computers, and we are early adopters but I am not very pleased about not being able to use it at all right now...

akashhhhh said:
I don't think they move the guys from software development to shipping/receiving depending on demand...
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LMAO, exactly what I was thinking. I don't give a crap what my marketing/production team is doing, I'm still a code-monkey and would want to be proactive to fix all the found bugs in my current software.

I think Asus will release Android 3.1 for the Transformer in the next 2 to 3 weeks. It would make sense that they have the code already as a manufacturer, and they would want to stay ahead of the Galaxy tab 10.1 which seems like will be realease with 3.1 installed.
Just my opinion,
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akashhhhh said:
I don't think they move the guys from software development to shipping/receiving depending on demand...
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Ha! Exactly.
WANTED: Android developer. Must also be able to lift heavy boxes for prolonged periods of time.

Wow. Android 3.1 was just announced this morning and already people are threatening to buy something else if Asus doesn't release the update. Yeesh.
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Let them get the current bugs squashed, especially w/ the keyboard dock, then let's worry about getting 3.1.
Given the demand for the TF, I would think that they would have an interest in keeping it at the top of the heap for as long as possible - i.e. get it updated w/ the latest iteration of HC as quickly as possible.

Of COURSE they'll want to get updated as soon as possible. Why wouldn't they? I swear, people are getting more and more ridiculous every day. In every forum for every product, if a company doesn't announce something within 15 minutes of someone demanding it, people start pulling out the tar and feathers.
I mean, seriously, why WOULDN'T Asus update the Transformer? What reason do we have for believing they won't? The only examples we have of what Asus might do with this product has been provided by the two updates they've issued in about a month, the presence of Asus personnel on this very forum helping people out with an unfortunate glitch with the last update, issuing a fixed update for manual install on their Web site within days of the glitch being identified (which required working on it over the weekend), and in general communicating better than I've seen any other Android manufacturer communicate in recent memory.
I say, if we haven't heard about an update to 3.1 within 30 days of today, then we'd have some reason to complain and wonder when we'll get one. But a few hours after it was announced by Google? Seriously?
Ye gads, people, get lives, will you?
(Rant over.)
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Yes, because the same three guys that developed the Tablet are the same 3 guys that fullfill orders and then package them and ship them!

Why are people do so willing to (threaten to) sell their Transformer if there's no announcement? How long till the other tablets get 3.1. You know, the old Samsung Tab, the G-Slate, the Viewsonic GTablet, etc. Oh that's right... nobody knows.

akashhhhh said:
I don't think they move the guys from software development to shipping/receiving depending on demand...
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LOL, didn't Amazon used to make it's upper level people work in any dept that needed extra manpower?

will asus ever release an official 4.0.4 or beyond for our TF

Seems like ASUS are pushing out updated builds of 4.0.3, which I'm thinking is their plans to stop development work on the TF101 pretty soon.
Other devices have been running 4.0.4 for some time, and there's probably an imminent 4.0.5 release.
4.0.4 had many fixes over 4.0.3, yet we find ourselves having to use ports, whilst good have inherent issues. But Asus don't seem to be embracing 4.0.4 and that probably means builds beyond that?
Just my two cents.... Glad we have some amazing devs, but without asus drivers we may never have a polished ICS product on our devices.

I think since the 300 and 700 are out/coming soon asus will soon abandon us, but a few more updates should squeeze out.. I hope.

Arobase40 said:
I think Asus worries more about fixing actual 4.0.3 issues before getting into 4.0.4... ^^
If Asus drivers are working with 4.0.3 there is no reason they won't work with custom 4.0.4 ROM...
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That's my point! GPS is awful for me on ICS, yet solid (10+ locks) on HC.

Google has an 18 month support cycle and a 6 month update cycle which asus has agreed to and since the device was released with honeycomb we should see an official jelybean by oct/nov next year. If not we still have CM support now so we will get it that way instead

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Well, things were going too fast from Froyo to ICS, so most manufacturers are still not ready with ICS, but hopefully we won't have to wait by oct/nov 2013 for JelyBean...
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Sorry meant to put this year we should have it by october/november 2012 which is about the end of asus's mandatory support cycle

With the TF101 getting incorporated into CM and a variety of AOSP options, do we really need official ASUS support? I mean, EOS 2.0 (among others) is rock solid stable (not reboots/SODs)... which is something that even ASUS couldn't offer to everyone so far!
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Asus (and/or Nvidia) support might be needed for some drivers if the current ones are not compatible with future Android/kernels.

With TFI getting dead last attention from ASUS as of late, they better be optimizing

they better be optimizing the hell out of Jelly Bean in prep for a massive promotion of the TFI's Android 4.1 rollout.
I personally feel ASUS have neglected the Infinity tablet worse than they did when their Transformer Prime was their most newest Transformer.
I've not seen a single update notification from them since I got this tablet on July 30th, and it's now September 8.
Do they still have that facebook page they use to respond to?
There hasn't been any new news from Googling the Transformer Infinity (besides it's launches in Europe and Australia) since it's reviews and launch reports that were made in June and July.
I know Google intentions were to boast it's Nexus 7 tablet, but wouldn't it made since to keep your more premium tablet running your software on the same level of promotion?
Key: TFI = Transformer Infinity

Havent even seen Gary Keys set foot in this forum even to say hi. Prime is discontinued Gary move on to the Infinity forum and save the tablet by giving insights to what is up. The infinity still has bugs that needs terminating and this is suppose to be the high end of transformers. Its suppose to get some high end service... Right? Hehehe..
*End of Rant*

the_game_master said:
they better be optimizing the hell out of Jelly Bean in prep for a massive promotion of the TFI's Android 4.1 rollout.
I personally feel ASUS have neglected the Infinity tablet worse than they did when their Transformer Prime was their most newest Transformer.
I've not seen a single update notification from them since I got this tablet on July 30th, and it's now September 8.
Do they still have that facebook page they use to respond to?
There hasn't been any new news from Googling the Transformer Infinity (besides it's launches in Europe and Australia) since it's reviews and launch reports that were made in June and July.
I know Google intentions were to boast it's Nexus 7 tablet, but wouldn't it made since to keep your more premium tablet running your software on the same level of promotion?
Key: TFI = Transformer Infinity
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You'll get what we send you Mr.!!!
...kidding of course
I'm with you hoping for something really good.
Can't complain much lately...been enjoying the Infinity.
I am very curious about an optimized 4.1 though.
Good luck to us all...

junrider said:
Havent even seen Gary Keys set foot in this forum even to say hi. Prime is discontinued Gary move on to the Infinity forum and save the tablet by giving insights to what is up. The infinity still has bugs that needs terminating and this is suppose to be the high end of transformers. Its suppose to get some high end service... Right? Hehehe..
*End of Rant*
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Why would you expect ASUS, a greedy megacorporation, to set foot in some obscure forum on the corner of the internet?
They got your money and that's all they need.
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Keion said:
Why would you expect ASUS, a greedy megacorporation, to set foot in some obscure forum on the corner of the internet?
They got your money and that's all they need.
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Let's be fair, they're not as bad as Shinra

psych2l said:
Let's be fair, they're not as bad as Shinra
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Maybe not as bad, however, everything Shinra built worked as promised.

junrider said:
Havent even seen Gary Keys set foot in this forum even to say hi. Prime is discontinued Gary move on to the Infinity forum and save the tablet by giving insights to what is up. The infinity still has bugs that needs terminating and this is suppose to be the high end of transformers. Its suppose to get some high end service... Right? Hehehe..
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Gary Key was trying to cover and hide the issues with the Prime and save Asus's reputation. He is in marketing, not engineering. That was all a big joke. The Infinity doesn't have near the issues the Prime had so Gary wont come over here unless the media starts reporting negatively on the Infinity. I will still never forget Gary Key saying in that interview that the Serial Number Unknown issues were fixed server side when there were dozens of people on these forums who still had the problem and the only fix was to send in your tablet and get a replacement. He flat out lied and I'm glad he isn't around.

Wtf Asus...Samsung Note 10.1 Was just released, not even available here in Canada yet but there is already a JB leak:
http://www.androidauthority.com/lea...ate-galaxy-tab-2-7-0-galaxy-note-10-1-113354/
Get on with it ASUS!!!!

snyph3r said:
Wtf Asus...Samsung Note 10.1 Was just released, not even available here in Canada yet but there is already a JB leak:
http://www.androidauthority.com/lea...ate-galaxy-tab-2-7-0-galaxy-note-10-1-113354/
Get on with it ASUS!!!!
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We technically have a "leak" too with the guy who got the OTA in that other thread.
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why do people make these threads? If you are not happy with the device, exchange it for something else. Why keep buying from a company, whos reputation you don't like? They didnt force us to buy their products. Yes, there are bugs. Give them time to fix everything. They issue a fix today, and then new bugs show up tomorrow, do you expect them to release another update the next day? I'm sure people are hard at work trying to rectify all of the issues. And yes, they still have the FB page, and announced on there several times that JB would be coming this month. People just need to have patience. Every time some type of update gets announced, people start making threads asking when will we get them. technology is not something that can be created in a matter of minutes.
My Infinity is not perfect. But i can be patient and have confidence that Asus will fix the issues. Why wouldnt they? How can they just leave us with messed up devices, and then come out with new products? Who will buy them, given they got over us on the first time? Contact ASUS and voice your complaints. It really doesnt help posting them here.
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timrock said:
why do people make these threads?
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I dunno...
Why do we keep posting in these threads
We're all gonna be pissed when Toshiba, Slamsung, IBM, etc. finally kick in with entries into HD Android tabs.
I know I'll probably fall for the next best thing...just like everybody else.

Android 4.1 - TF700

Good Day,
Official Press Statement -
Dear Valued ASUS Customers,
We are pleased to announce that we will soon be rolling out a major software update for both the ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity (TF700) and ASUS Transformer Pad Prime (TF201), which will bring Android™ 4.1, Jelly Bean to the devices. We always strive to deliver the latest updates for our customers – we hope you enjoy it.
Thank you for your continued support.
North American Update -
For those users in the US and Canada, the 10.4.4.14.1 Release is held.
North American Update - 9/27/2012
For those users in the US and Canada, the 10.4.4.16 Release should be available early next week. A couple of applications that were recently updated (Facebook 1.9.10 on 9/20 as one example) required a last minute firmware update for the keyboard to operate correctly in the "Comment" area with Android 4.1. Sorry about the delay but this fix needed to be implemented before release.
North American Update -
The JB update will be rolling out today. I highly recommend doing a factory reset on ICS, reboot, load the JB update, shutdown, and then start. It will offer the best performance compared to a straight update to JB, especially if you have a lot of apps or custom software loaded. Yes, it is a pain but it makes a real difference in the operation of the unit. Also, if you have rooted the unit I would recommend going back to a stock ICS load before updating. If you are unlocked, the JB update will not be available OTA.
In regards to applications, we have run through the top 500 apps on Play and there are a few applications that might only run in portrait mode or might white screen (Bike Race Free). Google is working with the developers on JB updates now. Also, several Google Apps will recommend an update (updates post 9/20) and we suggest accepting these for best performance.

Oh my goddddd I so happy !!! Got an A on my calc exam b on my physics exam and now this omgggggggggggg!!!! Yesss!!!!
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Good Day,
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Dear Valued ASUS Customers,
We are pleased to announce that we will soon be rolling out a major software update for both the ASUS Transformer Pad Infinity (TF700) and ASUS Transformer Pad Prime (TF201), which will bring Android™ 4.1, Jelly Bean to the devices. We always strive to deliver the latest updates for our customers – we hope you enjoy it.
Thank you for your continued support.
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For those users in the US and Canada, the 10.4.4.14.1 Release should be available within the next 72 hours.
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Best news ever to us devs. Finally!
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lesonal said:
Oh my goddddd I so happy !!! Got an A on my calc exam b on my physics exam and now this omgggggggggggg!!!! Yesss!!!!
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Wow, that really is good day!

Hope sooner than 72h can't freaking wait yay
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Uhhuh, and the time-estimate for the rest of the world? Y'know, the 750 million inhabitants of Europe, for instance?

If this is an official press release from ASUS for an android tablet, why is there a link to apple forums in the sig?
At any rate, I hope that this update fixes the problem with Netflix I have.

Since the 9.4.5.30 update it's never a good day anymore for me. Why the #@$! did you have to add signature checks to the bootloader, even on unlocked devices, locking us out from flashing any bootloader we want, and therefore also locking us out from getting nvflash.
Why? Can you answer this question, Gary Key?
You yourself have posted in another thread that you want to give us nvflash access ("but it wasn't ASUS's decision"), why then lock us out when someone do provide a way?

This news kinda makes me wish I hadn't brought my Tf700 back to best buy.
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Gary is from asus. I don't why apple reference but its been in his stuff for a long time
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Good news. Can't wait!
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adamhlj said:
If this is an official press release from ASUS for an android tablet, why is there a link to apple forums in the sig?
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DUDE: Gary works for ASUS and represents them in an official capacity here. If he posts it, it is guaranteed legit.

adamhlj said:
If this is an official press release from ASUS for an android tablet, why is there a link to apple forums in the sig
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Because he's rolling his eyes at Apple mucking up Wifi on the iPad, something Asus had and fixed? Because I remember Applefans yapping away about how great the iPad was and how the Transformer sucked for the WiFi issues.. which the iPad has, now...
Come on people, do you seriously not see the rolling eyes emoticon?

adamhlj said:
If this is an official press release from ASUS for an android tablet, why is there a link to apple forums in the sig?
At any rate, I hope that this update fixes the problem with Netflix I have.
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GARY IS THE MAN. When the TF201 came out he was the one choosing users to test beta drivers from asus before been release to the public. He help us in the TF201 and now he is here with us. Thanx Gary looking forward for the update. The countdown begins.

Great. I am backing up my apps and gonna to a factory reset before update to jb:laugh::laugh:

~~ GOOD NEWS ~~~ but ,,,,this comment ??
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Because he's rolling his eyes at Apple mucking up Wifi on the iPad, something Asus had and fixed? Because I remember Applefans yapping away about how great the iPad was and how the Transformer sucked for the WiFi issues.. which the iPad has, now...
Come on people, do you seriously not see the rolling eyes emoticon?
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something Asus had and - fixed >??? did ASUS add another Antenna wire >> so BT and Wifi is no longer sharing the SAME ONE WIRE ?
OR did ASus actually fixed something in EUROPE and not in USA ?? DONT THINK SO !!!
maybe I bought too early thats why got this 'single wire' PLUS a tf201 dock (keyboard labeled as tf201) ......
humnnn .... :crying:

WARNING: READ THIS NOW:
When Asus released their official Jelly Bean 4.1 update for the TF300, recoveries and ROMs based on ICS kernels were unable to boot. (I believe that this may be due to Trusted Platform). Most likely we'll see a repeat of this problem on the TF700 and TF201. Do not panic. I'll update TWRP as soon as possible to use updated kernels. Most likely we won't get kernel source right away so that means that JB users will not be able to back up and restore boot until we get the new kernel source. If you mess around with your recovery on your TF700 after installing JB you may end up soft-bricking your tablet. If you have nvflash access you will be able to fix it, but without nvflash you may end up with a brick that can only be fixed by Asus. You have been warned.
P.S. Might be a good idea to add this to the original post.

Holy crap, Gary is still alive...

This is better then Coffee in the Morning!!
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ShadowLea said:
Uhhuh, and the time-estimate for the rest of the world? Y'know, the 750 million inhabitants of Europe, for instance?
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Here in France Asus has indicated in facebook that JB should arrive for Europe next saturday

Update 4.2

From what I have read Asus will not update the TF700T to 4.2 until the 2nd quarter of 2013 and I wonder why. I am no developer but isn't it just a kernel flash. I mean why wait so long if its not a complete redo of the android version?
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loner. said:
From what I have read Asus will not update the TF700T to 4.2 until the 2nd quarter of 2013 and I wonder why. I am no developer but isn't it just a kernel flash. I mean why wait so long if its not a complete redo of the android version?
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Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.

king231 said:
Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR LAUGHING!!! Good stuff... can't let infinity users suffer... you are serious?

king231 said:
Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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Dude..... xD
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king231 said:
Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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Awww, F%&#... This made me laugh so hard I think I have ruptured my diaphragm. Might have broken a few ribs as well. If I stop responding for the next five days, I've passed away.
Oh, oh, oh.. the pain...

king231 said:
Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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That's a lot better than Toshiba did with the thrive. Toshiba didn't support it or seem to care.
Sent from my Thrive

It's a bit more than a kernel flash. There are some substantial changes between 4.1 and 4.2

sbdags said:
It's a bit more than a kernel flash. There are some substantial changes between 4.1 and 4.2
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Do you already know if 4.2 is compatible with a 4.1 kernel?

_that said:
Do you already know if 4.2 is compatible with a 4.1 kernel?
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No not yet. Do you want to have a look. I'll set up a link for you.

king231 said:
Right asus is kinda testing android 4.2 with tf300t users for any major bugs because tf300 and tf700 are almost the same hardware(chipset, ram, etc.). Transformer infinity is their flagship and they can't let infinity users suffer with any major bugs.
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Hahahahahaha... :laugh: Not letting Infinity users suffer? In which universe?
Anyway, the same thing happened with Jelly Bean. Asus rolled it out to the low and mid-range tablets first as a testrun, and when it worked properly (more or less, I still can't type an é) they send it our way.
I'd rather wait a few more months than get a buggy OS. Besides, I'm already glad Asus decided to incorporate the option to get rid of that horrendous 7"-designed double bar UI.

So it's 6 days in on March, so we expect to see Android 4.2 update for TF700 in 25 days.

the_game_master said:
So it's 6 days in on March, so we expect to see Android 4.2 update for TF700 in 25 days.
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Awesome. Let's just hope asus can get it together and deliver a good update (I know I know... It's not likely). Is sad that many people have had to unlock just to get the value they payed for
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loner. said:
That's a lot better than Toshiba did with the thrive. Toshiba didn't support it or seem to care.
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MartyHulskemper said:
Awww, F%&#... This made me laugh so hard I think I have ruptured my diaphragm. Might have broken a few ribs as well. If I stop responding for the next five days, I've passed away.
Oh, oh, oh.. the pain...
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Dude..... xD
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ALMOST FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR LAUGHING!!! Good stuff... can't let infinity users suffer... you are serious?
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I was talking about any major bugs if they ever existed. When tf300 got jellybean 4.1 the performance went terribly bad and had a hell lot of bugs. But when the update came to infinity some bugs were fixed and the performance was not as bad as it was on tf300. I know that a few ppl are not happy with infinity but the fact is none of the android tablets are totally bug free. If you want something so smooth or something just go with apple. But i bet its not as open as android.

We are all here to get the most from an android tablet, dealing with that stupid fruit company's products is it's own kind of suffering. That said, android could be better on our beloved tabs than Asus has allowed it to be. My father has a 300 and it has gone through growing plains also but I still see them dropping the ball on features on their entire tablet line, I had a 200(but let's not go there). They need to get their act together with this one. I want my HDMI scale and crop options back, and please don't take away my locking task bar again! They should be better at these by now but I disagree that they learned anything from the 300 and took it to the 700. If nothing else, look through the feature changes and issues that people run into on the 200, 300, and 700 updates and you will see that these are completely different development teams. Tien from Asus said it himself, the teams are not working together and some of the changes and features on one model may never get applied to others. That includes fixes.
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king231 said:
I was talking about any major bugs if they ever existed. When tf300 got jellybean 4.1 the performance went terribly bad and had a hell lot of bugs. But when the update came to infinity some bugs were fixed and the performance was not as bad as it was on tf300. I know that a few ppl are not happy with infinity but the fact is none of the android tablets are totally bug free. If you want something so smooth or something just go with apple. But i bet its not as open as android.
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they're also laughing that you implied we tf700 owners get some kind of special treatment and that asus uses tf300 owners as guinea pigs.. that's ridiculous.

dLo GSR said:
they're also laughing that you implied we tf700 owners get some kind of special treatment and that asus uses tf300 owners as guinea pigs.. that's ridiculous.
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Mostly we're laughing because of the I/O issue and the (in the US) poor build quality, and the accents on the keyboard dock that still aren't functioning, and other such issues. Oh, and the WiFi/GPS issue of a certain previous tablet.
Older and lower-range products have always been used as guinea pigs... someone has to be the test group. Makes sense to go with those who paid less for the product.

Yes, I laughed my proverbial ass off at the implication thatwe'll be spared bugs because of 'testing' on the TF300. Firstly, they're different devices, although there are clear parallels. On the TF700 the screen resolution does seem to bring the Tegra3 to its knees far more easily than of the TF300. Furthermore, ASUS has known about the I/O issue for AGES, and athough the TF201 owners were quite vocal about the crappy performance on their devices, ASUS didn't give a **** and put the TF700 out there with identical device genetics and thus the same problems. The only fix they made was the plastic strip that alleviated the WiFi/GPS problems.
So, yes, I found your remark the most entertaining one that day.

MartyHulskemper said:
Yes, I laughed my proverbial ass off at the implication thatwe'll be spared bugs because of 'testing' on the TF300. Firstly, they're different devices, although there are clear parallels. On the TF700 the screen resolution does seem to bring the Tegra3 to its knees far more easily than of the TF300. Furthermore, ASUS has known about the I/O issue for AGES, and athough the TF201 owners were quite vocal about the crappy performance on their devices, ASUS didn't give a **** and put the TF700 out there with identical device genetics and thus the same problems. The only fix they made was the plastic strip that alleviated the WiFi/GPS problems.
So, yes, I found your remark the most entertaining one that day.
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I wonder if this could be cause for class action.
I mean not being able to download a app and browse at the same time for me is a complete disappointment.
I would consider that to be a reasonable expectation of performance, and if this was really a "known" issue with a definitive solution, and was not addressed in a newer model, just seems like we got a lemon and Ausus knew it.
This is my first and only tablet and I don't have a lot of experience with them, but I think the "Browser has stop responding" message all the time when running stock is ridiculous. I know there are workarounds but at $600 dollars for a 3rd Gen tablet we shouldn't need workarounds for basic functionality.
Question: Can the memory be changed by a professional with the proper equipment? or is this a situation where the chips are embedded in the board through a process that can not be undone with out destroying the board?

ASUS support, meh, who needs it.
MartyHulskemper said:
Awww, F%&#... This made me laugh so hard I think I have ruptured my diaphragm. Might have broken a few ribs as well. If I stop responding for the next five days, I've passed away.
Oh, oh, oh.. the pain...
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Agreed, If I'd stayed on stock for the past 8 months my device would be in pieces scattered about my apartment. The rage inducing lag was absurd. Quite happy with the new 10.1 nightlies though. Mmmmm 4.2.
Sometimes I wonder if ASUS realizes that truly interested consumers will just go to places like XDA for support and updates, making them slack at supporting their less ambitious customers. Makes some sense (not cool, but logical)

mc_365 said:
I wonder if this could be cause for class action.
I mean not being able to download a app and browse at the same time for me is a complete disappointment.
I would consider that to be a reasonable expectation of performance......
Question: Can the memory be changed by a professional with the proper equipment? or is this a situation where the chips are embedded in the board through a process that can not be undone with out destroying the board?
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It should be a reasonable expectation with a premium tablet to have a smooth user interface no matter what updates are being downloaded.
And no, a pro that can de-solder a built in nand chip would likely cost you over $600 and probably wouldn't even work.
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