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Should I sell my TB and get the Bionic when it comes out?

love HTC phone but I been having alot of problems with the thunderbolt...haven't had a moto phone since the V635 been with Htc since 2006..What should I do? how is the hardware on moto phones now?

i would wait till it comes out wait a few weeks see what happens there may be problems or another recall so just wait but i dont know why u want that
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Yes, I'll buy your TB off of you for $5

YES. Or if the Samsung galaxy s2 ends up being 4g.

mohkg said:
i would wait till it comes out wait a few weeks see what happens there may be problems or another recall so just wait but i dont know why u want that
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Thanks I was thinking the same...l like that 4.5 inch screen man

How is MOTO when it comes to updates?

I won't be selling anything, but I will be on the Bionic without a thought.
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Moto is good enough with updates. I had a Droid X and the Froyo and other maintenance updates came out within an acceptable timeframe IMO.
Right now Verizon gives $200 for a Thunderbolt trade in. Hopefully it's still that much when the Bionic comes out. I cant imagine anyone paying much more than 200 for one of these considering all the problems they have.

Moto is pretty bad at updates.
I loved my D1 so I got an X2 as my upgrade and had nothing but problems. Popping in the audio channel when it went on and off (say, to pick up a call, drop a call, start MP3 playback, stop it, etc.). It was basically useless for taking video, as documented in several reviews (horrible distortion). It would often freeze for 1/2 second when doing something. Reboots a couple times a day, etc.
And no unlocked bootloader.
D3 released with Gingerbread. X has Gingerbread (although my stepson has had reboot issues with his). Still no GB on the X2 though. Amazing.
I'd be very careful going with Motorola at this point, and this is from a former advocate. After my experience with the X2, I'd never get a phone I couldn't run a custom ROM on if I had to. It's just not worth it.

crazed_z06 said:
Moto is good enough with updates. I had a Droid X and the Froyo and other maintenance updates came out within an acceptable timeframe IMO.
Right now Verizon gives $200 for a Thunderbolt trade in. Hopefully it's still that much when the Bionic comes out. I cant imagine anyone paying much more than 200 for one of these considering all the problems they have.
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200 that's pretty good and I didn't kno Verizon has a trade in program....I can probably get more on c list...I will wait a few weeks before I dive into the phone

spg900ny said:
Moto is pretty bad at updates.
I loved my D1 so I got an X2 as my upgrade and had nothing but problems. Popping in the audio channel when it went on and off (say, to pick up a call, drop a call, start MP3 playback, stop it, etc.). It was basically useless for taking video, as documented in several reviews (horrible distortion). It would often freeze for 1/2 second when doing something. Reboots a couple times a day, etc.
And no unlocked bootloader.
D3 released with Gingerbread. X has Gingerbread (although my stepson has had reboot issues with his). Still no GB on the X2 though. Amazing.
I'd be very careful going with Motorola at this point, and this is from a former advocate. After my experience with the X2, I'd never get a phone I couldn't run a custom ROM on if I had to. It's just not worth it.
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Thanks for the input man

spg900ny said:
Moto is pretty bad at updates.
I loved my D1 so I got an X2 as my upgrade and had nothing but problems. Popping in the audio channel when it went on and off (say, to pick up a call, drop a call, start MP3 playback, stop it, etc.). It was basically useless for taking video, as documented in several reviews (horrible distortion). It would often freeze for 1/2 second when doing something. Reboots a couple times a day, etc.
And no unlocked bootloader.
D3 released with Gingerbread. X has Gingerbread (although my stepson has had reboot issues with his). Still no GB on the X2 though. Amazing.
I'd be very careful going with Motorola at this point, and this is from a former advocate. After my experience with the X2, I'd never get a phone I couldn't run a custom ROM on if I had to. It's just not worth it.
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So one device means they're bad at updates? I guess you didn't see the articles a few months back that showed the most updated android phones were made by Motorola and the carrier (believe it our not) with the most updates pushed out was Verizon.
Sorry, motorola is a close second.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/01/android-update-study-finds-htc-motorola-have-best-track-record.ars
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g00s3y said:
Yes, I'll buy your TB off of you for $5
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That's a bargain since the plug for the power adapter was placed wrong by the manufacturer.

DroidTh3ory said:
I won't be selling anything, but I will be on the Bionic without a thought.
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Th3ory, you gonna have a custom bionic rom to go with your new bionic?

mbrown3460 said:
200 that's pretty good and I didn't kno Verizon has a trade in program....I can probably get more on c list...I will wait a few weeks before I dive into the phone
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https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/AppraisalPage.aspx
They send you a gift card for your phone. I'll have to call and see if that gift card can be applied to a bill. If that's the case, Ill get a Bionic off contract and have them charge it to my bill (I did this when I got my Droid X). When I get the gift card for the TB, Ill apply that to my bill balance.

crazed_z06 said:
https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/AppraisalPage.aspx
They send you a gift card for your phone. I'll have to call and see if that gift card can be applied to a bill. If that's the case, Ill get a Bionic off contract and have them charge it to my bill (I did this when I got my Droid X). When I get the gift card for the TB, Ill apply that to my bill balance.
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Wow didnt know I could get charge to my bill. Sorry I am new to Verizon! Can the phone be broken down in four payments like how t-mobile do it?

I wouldnt get it unless motorola ships it with an unlocked bootloader.

mbrown3460 said:
Wow didnt know I could get charge to my bill. Sorry I am new to Verizon! Can the phone be broken down in four payments like how t-mobile do it?
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I did not know until I bought the T-bolt and thats what I ended up doing. Its a good thing that they do this now.. Although, when I go the bill for EOM I was like , then remembered the phone was on it..

spyder329 said:
I did not know until I bought the T-bolt and thats what I ended up doing. Its a good thing that they do this now.. Although, when I go the bill for EOM I was like , then remembered the phone was on it..
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going wait it out see what xda has to say about the bionic.

As seeing that the Droid 3 Just came out and the Bootloader is yet again locked, I am pretty sure the Bionic is going to be locked also.

Just got mine

Just got mine in today. It's the S4 version as I live in Florida. I got it from a friend of a friend that works at HTC
I'm just now firing it up. I'm a lifelong Iphone user and I can't wait to get this thing charged and get my sim in.
Picture taken with an Iphone 4s that will be on craigslist shortly.
Anyone got any questions?
I'm an IT guy but I'm fairly to Android.

Just picked up mine as well! It's absolutely beautiful!

~~mitch~~ said:
Just picked up mine as well! It's absolutely beautiful!
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She is a thing of beauty but man alive, feels like I could scratch the camera lens setting it on a silk cloth..
Might hold off on actually using it until I can get a case. Then again..might not.

you say it's the s4 version yet the picture says it's the quad-core version?
tegra 3 by mistake?

pangjeff said:
you say it's the s4 version yet the picture says it's the quad-core version?
tegra 3 by mistake?
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Annddddd you are right...Oh Lawd Noes!! I thought I made out like a bandit. You're right LOL. I guess when I looked at it I just wanted it to say duel core.
Might be putting this on craigslist..yuck..

Lucky! Can anybody who has one tell me if it has led notification blinker in the front. Thanks

zecstone said:
Lucky! Can anybody who has one tell me if it has led notification blinker in the front. Thanks
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Yup, it has notification under the speaker grill.

Getting mine at the Rogers store at Scarborough Town Centre as we speak.
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gordongartrell said:
Getting mine at the Rogers store at Scarborough Town Centre as we speak.
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Let me know if it's busy there. Every store I called to and asked about their stock said I was the first and only person to call asking about this phone.
Maybe it'll take a while to build some momentum q:

brashebb said:
Annddddd you are right...Oh Lawd Noes!! I thought I made out like a bandit. You're right LOL. I guess when I looked at it I just wanted it to say duel core.
Might be putting this on craigslist..yuck..
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you actually want the lte one? i would gladly trade you my lte for the gsm one, if mine was not going to be locked to rogers.
I just think there will be a lot more dev support for the gsm over lte, the only reason i am getting through rogers is the price because i am upgrading.

grinmaul said:
you actually want the lte one? i would gladly trade you my lte for the gsm one
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Whaaaaaaattt??
Dev support will be slow at first, but HTC devices always have good dev support especially once it reaches the US in May 22, and outside North America shortly after.
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cue_32 said:
Whaaaaaaattt??
Dev support will be slow at first, but HTC devices always have good dev support especially once it reaches the US in May 22, and outside North America shortly after.
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haha, you think i am nuts but i really could care less about network speed, i am so afraid to use data on rogers that i am almost religious in my use of wi-fi where ever possible.
i used a US nexus one for 2 years at edge speed and never bothered me a bit.
i would prefer the 32gig of storage.

grinmaul said:
haha, you think i am nuts but i really could care less about network speed, i am so afraid to use data on rogers that i am almost religious in my use of wi-fi where ever possible.
i used a US nexus one for 2 years at edge speed and never bothered me a bit.
i would prefer the 32gig of storage.
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I thought the exact same thing at first. We don't even have LTE here and I've heard horror stories of not being able to turn off the LTE antenna with various skinned versions of android. The reason I didn't want the quad core variant is because I really just want the superior processor.

cue_32 said:
Whaaaaaaattt??
Dev support will be slow at first, but HTC devices always have good dev support especially once it reaches the US in May 22, and outside North America shortly after.
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May 6
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Well since this is the wrong phone for this thread.....

danada said:
Let me know if it's busy there. Every store I called to and asked about their stock said I was the first and only person to call asking about this phone.
Maybe it'll take a while to build some momentum q:
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It wasn't busy at all. The funny part was that the first customer service agent I asked about the One X didn't even know what a One X was or if they had any in stock. She then goes on to the back room and was absolutely fascinated by the phone. She was actually playing with the phone more than I was. They're getting a much bigger shipment when the phone actually has its coming out launch. Today was pretty much a cold launch.
Absolutely beautiful phone though. I had to goto work, so I didn't get a chance to play with it. I play with it when I get home.
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Im getting mine in thursday , cant wait any longer. Its best of the best atleast here in europe

Quick question, are there headphones in the box?

brash...PM Me..also in SoFla....how much ?
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Maedhros said:
Quick question, are there headphones in the box?
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Absolutely no headphones in the box (strange), but I assume most people buy 3rd party headphones anyway.
It's also another way to push Beats headphone sales.

Those cancelling HOX preorders, what makes you think the S3 BL won't be locked?

I've seen a few people say they are cancelling their HOX preorders and getting the S3 over this whole BL issue. I am just curious if people think it will be a different story with the S3. To me, it seems that AT&T is behind the lock and I assume they would just as quickly lock down the S3. What do you guys think?

I think it'll be just like vivid..it will be unlockable in around month..I hope lol either way I'm keeping mine it's beautiful!
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mzimmer88 said:
I've seen a few people say they are cancelling their HOX preorders and getting the S3 over this whole BL issue. I am just curious if people think it will be a different story with the S3. To me, it seems that AT&T is behind the lock and I assume they would just as quickly lock down the S3. What do you guys think?
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Samsung dosent lock their bootloaders.

Samsung has generally been rather good at unlocking... Or just not properly.securing BL.
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jeremyshaw said:
Samsung has generally been rather good at unlocking... Or just not properly.securing BL.
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Ahh, thanks for the clarification. I have been using my Samsung Captivate which was always easy to do whatever with. I just thought that it came from a different point in Android BL openness history

Would just like to add that the BL lock does suck, but this is by far the best stock experience I have ever had on any mobile device. That also includes iOS.

americasteam said:
Would just like to add that the BL lock does suck, but this is by far the best stock experience I have ever had on any mobile device. That also includes iOS.
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I agree. HTC has done a bang up job, but dammit I want Stock ICS

I think Samsung has a lot more pull with the carriers too. The Galaxy SIII was the most hyped phone in a long time... I don't think AT&T would just turn down the Galaxy SIII cause Samsung wants the boot loader unlocked.

I doubt SGS3 will be locked. But still Im not mad about HTC's Bootloader lock since it works so well out the box (like the Vivid after ICS) as long as it works well, im happy. Honestly im not in a hurry to root since i wouldnt know what to do except mess around since i dont think i need anything improved as of today (except wifi bug, but htc should fix soon)
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mike21pr said:
I doubt SGS3 will be locked. But still Im not mad about HTC's Bootloader lock since it works so well out the box (like the Vivid after ICS) as long as it works well, im happy. Honestly im not in a hurry to root since i wouldnt know what to do except mess around since i dont think i need anything improved as of today (except wifi bug, but htc should fix soon)
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My biggest thing is tethering, since I would have to give up my grandfathered unlimited data plan to get it with root.

The only thing I would be looking forward to would be a debloated stock ROM. I am loving this stock experience. Oh and also for occasional wifi tethering.

I actually just bought this phone from the AT&T store today.. switched from a Galaxy S2, rooted with CM7.2.
The stock experience on this phone is.. amazing, to say the least. The display alone is just crazy. It feels like I'm looking at a photo, or one of those stickers on the phones you can't actually mess with in stores.
While it sucks not being able to root + drop a custom ROM on here.. I'm willing to wait until it eventually happens. The out of box experience is head and shoulders above any other Android phone I've used (Nexus One, Galaxy S2, Droid Incredible). If it never gets unlocked.. well, I'll still be happy with my purchase.

mzimmer88 said:
My biggest thing is tethering, since I would have to give up my grandfathered unlimited data plan to get it with root.
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There are alot of non-root tethering apps. Koush's works great.
Disclaimer: I have not tried it with the One X yet, but it worked on my old Droid X fine.

So I need to replace my phone...

Sadly I shattered my X's screen :crying: and I'm going to get it replaced with my insurance, they send me the new phone and I send them the broken one back. As far as I can tell there's no way I can check or have them check that the phone's still on 1.85 and I absolutely can't live without root. Any ideas to help me out? (AT&T One X)

you may be able to this.. idk it was sure if you need root but maybe something along this line. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671135
beamed from the XL

If it comes with 2.20 you are toast. There is no known root or BL unlock for phones that come with 2.20. Its hit or miss what you will get.
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quarlow said:
If it comes with 2.20 you are toast. There is no known root or BL unlock for phones that come with 2.20. Its hit or miss what you will get.
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Yeah I think I'm going to call AT&T today and see if there's any way we could work something out. Hopefully since one of the reps at my local store is actually knowledgeable when it comes to rooting and modding etc. he can help me out.

SU1CiDE said:
Yeah I think I'm going to call AT&T today and see if there's any way we could work something out. Hopefully since one of the reps at my local store is actually knowledgeable when it comes to rooting and modding etc. he can help me out.
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Your replacement will come from asurian. If you get a refurb find a flaw with it and they will send you a brand new one which will likely not have 2.20.
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U should claim it as lost u pay the same price and u would have a spare phone to fiddle with
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joshua54 said:
U should claim it as lost u pay the same price and u would have a spare phone to fiddle with
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Do that ^^^:silly:

joshua54 said:
U should claim it as lost u pay the same price and u would have a spare phone to fiddle with
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I was thinking of doing that haha. I might just for fun, I've taken apart all my old phones so far so maybe I'll add this beauty to the collection of dismembered phones

SU1CiDE said:
I was thinking of doing that haha. I might just for fun, I've taken apart all my old phones so far so maybe I'll add this beauty to the collection of dismembered phones
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Maybe you could swap screens then if you get a replacement that you can't root.

jordant2 said:
Maybe you could swap screens then if you get a replacement that you can't root.
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I dropped my current phone a few days before the screen shattered and it's just been buggy as hell, it's barely been usable since. Plus I got a defective model in the first place with the WiFi issue which at this point is getting to be the most annoying thing ever. I guess I shouldn't have waited to get a replacement, I was too afraid I'd get a new one with the update but now it seems like it's going to be a very slim chance of getting one without the update

I just got a refurb from AT&T today with 2.20 on it already.
Sending it back. Guess I'll live with some stuck pixels and root, I have 90 days to decide how much it bothers me.
Unless an exploit is found for 2.20...
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quarlow said:
I just got a refurb from AT&T today with 2.20 on it already.
Sending it back. Guess I'll live with some stuck pixels and root, I have 90 days to decide how much it bothers me.
Unless an exploit is found for 2.20...
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I wish I could live with this :/ my screen is pretty much cracked everywhere and it's too buggy since I dropped it

SU1CiDE said:
I wish I could live with this :/ my screen is pretty much cracked everywhere and it's too buggy since I dropped it
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Just realized how lucky I am... My phone dropped from 3 stories into wood... Amazingly I have no issues, just a slightly blue tint on a pinkie sized part of the screen only visible when there's a Grey background and a scratch on the top corner of the chassis. Of course it probably helped I had a zagg screen protector which is scratched slightly at the top.
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TheNightHawk223 said:
Just realized how lucky I am... My phone dropped from 3 stories into wood... Amazingly I have no issues, just a slightly blue tint on a pinkie sized part of the screen only visible when there's a Grey background and a scratch on the top corner of the chassis. Of course it probably helped I had a zagg screen protector which is scratched slightly at the top.
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Yeah you got extremely lucky man! I'm sure as hell going to take as much care as possible with this new phone. Still can't believe I ruined the one I have :/
I filed the claim tonight and should get the NEW phone, not a refurb, tomorrow or Wednesday. Praying it'll come with 1.85...

[Q] Warranty Replacement--got an upgrade??

I recently bought a new RAZR MAXX HD cash to replace my OG RAZR MAXX. I called verizon to get a warranty replacement for the OG MAXX and I recieved a RAZR MAXX HD certified replacement...WTF...will they be expecting a RAZR MAXX HD back from me ??? or did i get lucky and have something I can sell for more than the OG....

Idk I would think that would be on them. But best thing to do is let them know and if the person says its ok get their name and tell them if something comes up say he said if was fine. But Idk I wouldent want to take chances and get in trouble for some weird rule that you don't know of
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Idk I would think that would be on them. But best thing to do is let them know and if the person says its ok get their name and tell them if something comes up say he said if was fine. But Idk I wouldent want to take chances and get in trouble for some weird rule that you don't know of
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i just asked a friend of mine who got a replacement two weeks ago and they sent him a maxx hd . he sent them back an OG maxx, this may be the new norm....

DVDDave said:
i just asked a friend of mine who got a replacement two weeks ago and they sent him a maxx hd . he sent them back an OG maxx, this may be the new norm....
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They reserve the right to replace a device with a "like" device.
What they expect back is the phone on your contract. No more no less.
They know the phone that you filed a claim on.
They might be out of inventory of OG Maxx. The next best thing to send is a Maxx HD.

Sounds like you got a nice little free upgrade there mister!

Does the replacement paperwork reference the device it's replacing? You might want to verify Verizon is not trying to swap your HD.