Should I sell my TB and get the Bionic when it comes out? - Thunderbolt General

love HTC phone but I been having alot of problems with the thunderbolt...haven't had a moto phone since the V635 been with Htc since 2006..What should I do? how is the hardware on moto phones now?

i would wait till it comes out wait a few weeks see what happens there may be problems or another recall so just wait but i dont know why u want that
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Yes, I'll buy your TB off of you for $5

YES. Or if the Samsung galaxy s2 ends up being 4g.

mohkg said:
i would wait till it comes out wait a few weeks see what happens there may be problems or another recall so just wait but i dont know why u want that
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Thanks I was thinking the same...l like that 4.5 inch screen man

How is MOTO when it comes to updates?

I won't be selling anything, but I will be on the Bionic without a thought.
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Moto is good enough with updates. I had a Droid X and the Froyo and other maintenance updates came out within an acceptable timeframe IMO.
Right now Verizon gives $200 for a Thunderbolt trade in. Hopefully it's still that much when the Bionic comes out. I cant imagine anyone paying much more than 200 for one of these considering all the problems they have.

Moto is pretty bad at updates.
I loved my D1 so I got an X2 as my upgrade and had nothing but problems. Popping in the audio channel when it went on and off (say, to pick up a call, drop a call, start MP3 playback, stop it, etc.). It was basically useless for taking video, as documented in several reviews (horrible distortion). It would often freeze for 1/2 second when doing something. Reboots a couple times a day, etc.
And no unlocked bootloader.
D3 released with Gingerbread. X has Gingerbread (although my stepson has had reboot issues with his). Still no GB on the X2 though. Amazing.
I'd be very careful going with Motorola at this point, and this is from a former advocate. After my experience with the X2, I'd never get a phone I couldn't run a custom ROM on if I had to. It's just not worth it.

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Moto is good enough with updates. I had a Droid X and the Froyo and other maintenance updates came out within an acceptable timeframe IMO.
Right now Verizon gives $200 for a Thunderbolt trade in. Hopefully it's still that much when the Bionic comes out. I cant imagine anyone paying much more than 200 for one of these considering all the problems they have.
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200 that's pretty good and I didn't kno Verizon has a trade in program....I can probably get more on c list...I will wait a few weeks before I dive into the phone

spg900ny said:
Moto is pretty bad at updates.
I loved my D1 so I got an X2 as my upgrade and had nothing but problems. Popping in the audio channel when it went on and off (say, to pick up a call, drop a call, start MP3 playback, stop it, etc.). It was basically useless for taking video, as documented in several reviews (horrible distortion). It would often freeze for 1/2 second when doing something. Reboots a couple times a day, etc.
And no unlocked bootloader.
D3 released with Gingerbread. X has Gingerbread (although my stepson has had reboot issues with his). Still no GB on the X2 though. Amazing.
I'd be very careful going with Motorola at this point, and this is from a former advocate. After my experience with the X2, I'd never get a phone I couldn't run a custom ROM on if I had to. It's just not worth it.
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Thanks for the input man

spg900ny said:
Moto is pretty bad at updates.
I loved my D1 so I got an X2 as my upgrade and had nothing but problems. Popping in the audio channel when it went on and off (say, to pick up a call, drop a call, start MP3 playback, stop it, etc.). It was basically useless for taking video, as documented in several reviews (horrible distortion). It would often freeze for 1/2 second when doing something. Reboots a couple times a day, etc.
And no unlocked bootloader.
D3 released with Gingerbread. X has Gingerbread (although my stepson has had reboot issues with his). Still no GB on the X2 though. Amazing.
I'd be very careful going with Motorola at this point, and this is from a former advocate. After my experience with the X2, I'd never get a phone I couldn't run a custom ROM on if I had to. It's just not worth it.
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So one device means they're bad at updates? I guess you didn't see the articles a few months back that showed the most updated android phones were made by Motorola and the carrier (believe it our not) with the most updates pushed out was Verizon.
Sorry, motorola is a close second.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/01/android-update-study-finds-htc-motorola-have-best-track-record.ars
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g00s3y said:
Yes, I'll buy your TB off of you for $5
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That's a bargain since the plug for the power adapter was placed wrong by the manufacturer.

DroidTh3ory said:
I won't be selling anything, but I will be on the Bionic without a thought.
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Th3ory, you gonna have a custom bionic rom to go with your new bionic?

mbrown3460 said:
200 that's pretty good and I didn't kno Verizon has a trade in program....I can probably get more on c list...I will wait a few weeks before I dive into the phone
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https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/AppraisalPage.aspx
They send you a gift card for your phone. I'll have to call and see if that gift card can be applied to a bill. If that's the case, Ill get a Bionic off contract and have them charge it to my bill (I did this when I got my Droid X). When I get the gift card for the TB, Ill apply that to my bill balance.

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https://www.trade-in.vzw.com/AppraisalPage.aspx
They send you a gift card for your phone. I'll have to call and see if that gift card can be applied to a bill. If that's the case, Ill get a Bionic off contract and have them charge it to my bill (I did this when I got my Droid X). When I get the gift card for the TB, Ill apply that to my bill balance.
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Wow didnt know I could get charge to my bill. Sorry I am new to Verizon! Can the phone be broken down in four payments like how t-mobile do it?

I wouldnt get it unless motorola ships it with an unlocked bootloader.

mbrown3460 said:
Wow didnt know I could get charge to my bill. Sorry I am new to Verizon! Can the phone be broken down in four payments like how t-mobile do it?
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I did not know until I bought the T-bolt and thats what I ended up doing. Its a good thing that they do this now.. Although, when I go the bill for EOM I was like , then remembered the phone was on it..

spyder329 said:
I did not know until I bought the T-bolt and thats what I ended up doing. Its a good thing that they do this now.. Although, when I go the bill for EOM I was like , then remembered the phone was on it..
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going wait it out see what xda has to say about the bionic.

As seeing that the Droid 3 Just came out and the Bootloader is yet again locked, I am pretty sure the Bionic is going to be locked also.

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[Q] RIP HTC Inspire 4G (2/13/11-3/4/11)

So I was forced to execute my Inspire today. It was rooted, I've tried different roms/radios, flashed rooted stock rom/stock rom. It was never reliable: always dropping service, not receiving/making calls at random times, mms unreliable. I took it back to best buy to try to get it exchanged for a new one. Of course the phone was working flawlessly when I got to the store. The good news is that I had purchased the best buy protection plan for it at $10/month. I had enough of the phone not working reliably for its intended purpose and had to smash it in order to get a new unit. I went back to best buy and turned in the broken phone, and after more than a few suspicious looks from workers-got my phone sent in for repair. Of course it's not going to be repairable (I hit it with my baton , which crushed the screen and phone in the middle), so now I wait a few weeks for my new unit.
My question is, should I cancel my ATT contract and go with a different provider. I loved the actual phone, I just think the ATT "4G" service is horribly unreliable in my area. Or, are there any good Android 3G phones for ATT?
BTW, I am coming from an iPhone 4 before i got the HTC Inspire. iPhone worked awesome, I'm just tired of Apple products.
You can exchange/return your phone within 30 days so why the hell did you "smash" it?
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If you were within the 30 days you had every right to just return it just because you wanted to.
I hope you get it all worked out. GL
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(I hit it with my baton , which crushed the screen and phone in the middle)
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I LOL'd when I read that
In my opinion, you have the best android phone AT&T has to offer...and on this thread? I think a lot of people will think the same thing. A lot of us inspire owners are previous captivate owners! That phone REQUIRED tweaking to get it to work smoothly (and for me, to get gps to work)
You could get the atrix, but there's not much tweaking/modding/flashing you can do with it due to a signed bootloader.
yeah, smashing it was a stupid thing to do.
cancelling your at&t contract will cost you a lot of money.
LOL, its crazy that someone has to go to those lenths to return a phone, but its true especially at stores like bestbuy its like ok so u want me to go in parking lot and run over it with my car a few times? then you will exchange it? and if u didnt have a problem with it why would u want a new one? Funny the smashing with baton part though.
^ he said, he was having problems.
i agree with others, you had 30 days to return it, i don't understand why you didn't just do that, and get another phone.
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^ he said, he was having problems.
i agree with others, you had 30 days to return it, i don't understand why you didn't just do that, and get another phone.
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Right on... I also think $10 a month is crazy expensive.
For me, the Inspire has been a dream. Super stable... super fast... and I really haven't felt the need to root it.. yet.
bahairus said:
Right on... I also think $10 a month is crazy expensive.
For me, the Inspire has been a dream. Super stable... super fast... and I really haven't felt the need to root it.. yet.
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yea, $10 a month is nuts, i only paid $50 for the entire phone!
I don't think any of your understood, lol. Best Buy refused to take it back because it was working fine in front of them. And I did literally say to the kid working there, "So if I take it out in the parking lot and run it over with my truck, you guys will take it back?" He replied, "Do what you gotta do, if you come in tomorrow with a broken phone I'll act like I didn't see you come in today."
BTW I paid full price for the phone ($450ish).
You can return it for ANY reason within 30 days. Doesn't have to be broken.
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You can return it for ANY reason within 30 days. Doesn't have to be broken.
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This. Should have asked for a manager. That kid was totally wrong.
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I dont think bestbuy will do a swap without something wrong with it that they can see that isnt walmart. Not all stores are easy to work with. sure he could have returned it but that is a restocking fee
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I dont think bestbuy will do a swap without something wrong with it that they can see that isnt walmart. Not all stores are easy to work with. sure he could have returned it but that is a restocking fee
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That's what I was thinking. I didn't want to push the issue and get the manager involved only to deny me getting a new phone. Then, I show up a few days later with a broken phone anyway. I will most likely be buying my next phone at Costco.
I had the same exact same problem... out the blue signal went to ****.. took it back to the At&t store of course it worked fine..lol .. got a new one hope it don't happen again... the people at the at&t store were like "I never seen the H without a the +"
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I dont think bestbuy will do a swap without something wrong with it that they can see that isnt walmart. Not all stores are easy to work with. sure he could have returned it but that is a restocking fee
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Restocking fees no longer apply at best buy, and their return policy does not say something has to be wrong.
<--- worked there for three years and still has many friends that do.
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ReppinFlorida said:
I had the same exact same problem... out the blue signal went to ****.. took it back to the At&t store of course it worked fine..lol .. got a new one hope it don't happen again... the people at the at&t store were like "I never seen the H without a the +"
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You took it back rooted and s-off ed? Hahaha classic.
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They actually gave me a had time had to go back a couple times... they said I had to unroot it for warranty purposes... I used visionary to unroot and left the s-off and the custom Rom
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ReppinFlorida said:
They actually gave me a had time had to go back a couple times... they said I had to unroot it for warranty purposes... I used visionary to unroot and left the s-off and the custom Rom
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You should post how you un rooted in the Dev or General section. I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate that.
Also, thanks for confirming why we shouldn't buy at 'Beast' Buy
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If you have to take it in just take a nandroid and run the ruu. Then take your SD out. Simple and effective.
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Any DC users think of moving to the Bionic?

I'm thinking about it, is anyone else?
Has anyone of you played with one yet? I hear they have CM7 on it already....
After jumping to several new phones and then being pissed while waiting on a good ROM to come out, I have finally seen the light. I am no longer jumping to a new phone the second it comes out. When I see that there's a good amount of dev being done on a device, then I'll switch. That's right around the time something new comes out... So, I'll still be upgrading every year or so, but about 6 months after the new stuff gets released.
Thankful for the devs that make these phones great!
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And when I do swap, it'll probably be for the Prime...
No, the Charge is a quality device and I will be happy with it until there is a phone launched with ICS on Verizon. The Bionic has no guarantee for timely software updates and comes with too much bloatware for my taste. Honestly, I only bought the Charge to have unlimited 4G data. I would have rather just waited for a device with ICS but Verizon forced my hand.
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The Bionic has way too many disadvantages for me starting with the awful looking washed out/grainy pentile screen, the camera sucks etc etc etc
My boss had one for two days & I played with it constantly before he returned it. Neither of us where impressed with the thing at all.
~John
No way. This phone does everything I need and more. The screen is awesome by the way.
Phil Salm
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I am spoiled rotten by Super AMOLED and + displays. There is no way I would be happy, content, or even mildly okay with a pentile fuzzy screen. If something comes out that is faster, has more memory, AND has an awesome screen then I may consider it. I don't have to have a screen as good at the Super AMOLED or Super AMOLED+, but they sure have set the bar really high for me.
The screen was the deal breaker for me, no point in having a super fast phone if it looks like s*!#
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wait for the prime!! it will b the best phone relesed probably till GS3
tsitalon1 said:
I'm thinking about it, is anyone else?
Has anyone of you played with one yet? I hear they have CM7 on it already....
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I agree with the other posters who say no way, but wanted to add that CM7 is not on the Bionic. It boots but that is about it.
piizzadude said:
I agree with the other posters who say no way, but wanted to add that CM7 is not on the Bionic. It boots but that is about it.
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it boots on the charge as well.. AND JT IS WORKING ON IT!!! why would u want to go to another phone when were getting more and more devs!
Originally got the charge to get unlimited 4g and probably won't replace it until galaxy nexus or droid prime is out. Can't live without an amoled screen now...
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I don't even need to comment. What everyone is saying is right on. Bionic is a bunch of hype.
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bluevolume said:
Is it just me, or is anyone else sick of these threads? Honestly, the Charge has only been out a few months. Anyone who bought it is still well short of their upgrade date, so why would they be thinking about upgrading already?
Too much anxiety over these phones!
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I am a little sick of these threads too. I, and many other Charge users, might sell this phone and buy a full retail device if what they were waiting for originally comes out.
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bluevolume said:
Is it just me, or is anyone else sick of these threads? Honestly, the Charge has only been out a few months. Anyone who bought it is still well short of their upgrade date, so why would they be thinking about upgrading already?
Too much anxiety over these phones!
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Not everyone buys phones on contract, so that's why people would upgrade already.
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Not everyone buys phones on contract, so that's why people would upgrade already.
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AMEN Brother
I've had just about all the smartphones out & only 2 or 3 have been an upgrade
I am on contract but don't mind selling the phone to recoup some of my loss..
Two reasons why I'm thinking of moving away from the DC.
1. Handset speaker volume to low during a call...yes I have it all the way up!
2. No matter what ROM I use, the phone gets laggy after a few days and needs rebooting to clear. Using Zeam as launcher right now too!
Battery life is ok, get about 2 - 2.5 hrs of "screen time" a day
I do love the screen though...except for the over saturated colors....wish there was an app to adjust saturation
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I am on contract but don't mind selling the phone to recoup some of my loss..
Two reasons why I'm thinking of moving away from the DC.
1. Handset speaker volume to low during a call...yes I have it all the way up!
2. No matter what ROM I use, the phone gets laggy after a few days and needs rebooting to clear. Using Zeam as launcher right now too!
Battery life is ok, get about 2 - 2.5 hrs of "screen time" a day
I do love the screen though...except for the over saturated colors....wish there was an app to adjust saturation
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Well, I have to totally agree with you on all of those. #2 is the one that really kills me, especially when you are trying to do something as simple as making a phonecall.
We need a good app like QuickGamma, that would fix the colors with the screen. Red is WAY overblown!
The bionic's screen is horrendous ..
I am selling to get the htc vigor.. thing looks aamazing and I am an htc fanboi after having the incredible.
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bluevolume said:
Is it just me, or is anyone else sick of these threads? Honestly, the Charge has only been out a few months. Anyone who bought it is still well short of their upgrade date, so why would they be thinking about upgrading already?
Too much anxiety over these phones!
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Many Fascinate users were upgraded to the Charge for free during a short period of time. I, myself, was one of those users and I am eligible for an upgrade if I were to see something I really liked.
As was pointed out, many other people buy phones off contract. There is a huge used market. Many folks will buy a like-new used phone and turn around and sell it when something bigger/better comes out to recoup some value from it. There are lots of folks that upgrade their phone several times a year for a number of reasons.
I don't upgrade that often, but I've seen others that do.

[Q] Warranty hard bricked AT&T A2 ?

Hello all guys here,
Me and some man here just hard bricked our A2 due to come back GB from ICS leak, which is forbidden !
Mine was from AT&T and still in warranty when I checked here, but it is unlocked grey item, not from any contract.
alteredlikeness finished his warranty, had a new phone and answered my question :
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Yes, they ask for your personal information so that they can confirm that you are a customer. They won't give non-customers replacements.. And, Motorola only tells you to send it in for repair...
Let's put it this way, I was on the phone with Moto for almost 2 hours and they only offered me to send it in for repair (or, call my carrier and see what they can do). And, I was on the phone with AT&T for 5 minutes total, and they offered me a replacement within 3 minutes, before I could even ask for one...
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But I wonder, if I send it directly to Motorola for Service and Repair, do they accept it as "In warranty" as their site checked ?
If the answer is YES, they will exchange for free
If NO, maybe we have to pay "$109 plus applicable taxes" for "Out-of-Warranty" option - that is acceptable price for a new mainboard - IMO.
Any idea ?
Thanks ! :victory:
vinamilk said:
Hello all guys here,
Me and some man here just hard bricked our A2 due to come back GB from ICS leak, which is forbidden !
Mine was from AT&T and still in warranty when I checked here, but it is unlocked grey item, not from any contract.
alteredlikeness finished his warranty, had a new phone and answered my question :
But I wonder, if I send it directly to Motorola for Service and Repair, do they accept it as "In warranty" as their site checked ?
If the answer is YES, they will exchange for free
If NO, maybe we have to pay "$109 plus applicable taxes" for "Out-of-Warranty" option - that is acceptable price for a new mainboard - IMO.
Any idea ?
Thanks ! :victory:
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Just go to the Motorola mobility site for the atrix 2 and either chat with a support rep through the website, or there is a number to call them at the bottom of the page. There was someone else already who contacted them and was told that they do not support the A2 in that persons country, and they would not even allow him to send the phone in for repairs, even for a price. The only way you can know for sure, is to contact Motorola directly.
Thanks Jim,
I think I will send it to my brother who living in Boston - USA first, then he will take it to Motorola. Just want to know how Moto's behavior is before I do it.
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Thanks Jim,
I think I will send it for my brother who living in Boston - USA first, then he will take it to Motorola. Just want to know Moto's behavior before I do it.
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That right there will probably save you some huge headaches, since the AT&T version is a US phone... just realize they might be able to JTAG the device and see that the ICS leak was applied, and give you no support. Just want to let you know that, just so you get prepared. You might think about finding someplace that can JTAG it for you, that is in your half of the world. I am guessing there are places on the web that do that service, which you can send it to.
Oh so I save money and maybe my next phone will be Sammy S3 like you ...
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Oh so I save money and maybe my next phone will be Sammy S3 like you ...
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Dude, I can not say enough great things about the SGS 3 and I have never liked the sammy phones until this one. I had a captivate, and I vowed after that to never have another samsung galaxy phone, until this one. I am switching between CM9 and CM10 right now every other day just to see all the progress we are making with the Jelly bean and project butter coding in the CM10 dailies.
The Atrix2 is my last Motorola phone. I also have a Xoom, and that is why I go this phone, hoping it would be like the xoom, but the A2 is too locked down for any real good mods.
Yeah I would save up for the SGS 3 it is a monster piece of hardware just don't buy a verizon version as they locked the bootloader on that one only.
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Dude, I can not say enough great things about the SGS 3 and I have never liked the sammy phones until this one. I had a captivate, and I vowed after that to never have another samsung galaxy phone, until this one. I am switching between CM9 and CM10 right now every other day just to see all the progress we are making with the Jelly bean and project butter coding in the CM10 dailies.
The Atrix2 is my last Motorola phone. I also have a Xoom, and that is why I go this phone, hoping it would be like the xoom, but the A2 is too locked down for any real good mods.
Yeah I would save up for the SGS 3 it is a monster piece of hardware just don't buy a verizon version as they locked the bootloader on that one only.
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Jim,
I was this close (touching thumb and forefinger together) to early upgrading to the SGS3 yesterday. Next week, I think I'm going to pull the trigger on it. Had it not been for your rave reviews on the SGS3 I'd likely not be considering it at all. So, I will shall see you in the SG3 forums soon...
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Off topic but
I followed the sg3 train too. Thought it would be delivered yesterday. Going to have to what til Monday. Should have gone to best buy and just upgraded there.
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Mine says I still have warranty, so it is a really good news for me.
But I live in Aruba I don't know how to send it to them.
Apex_Strider said:
Jim,
I was this close (touching thumb and forefinger together) to early upgrading to the SGS3 yesterday. Next week, I think I'm going to pull the trigger on it. Had it not been for your rave reviews on the SGS3 I'd likely not be considering it at all. So, I will shall see you in the SG3 forums soon...
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The s3 is a truly wicked piece of hardware. Gonna steal the wifes for awhile when i get home.
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
Guys, the SGS 3 with CM9 and even the CM10 builds have been AMAZING!!!! I am getting 48 hours with decent use on a charge with CM9 and CM10, and with the stock I was getting about 20+ hours with the same amount of use.
With CM9 and CM10, there is no way any other phone even comes close in terms of performance, battery, useability and fun. With CM10 and project butter, it is just fantastic performance and smooth as butter.... LOL.
See all you guys over there... and the forum over there is handeled much better no one puts up with crap over there, and bad posts get removed so fast it is not even funny.
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Guys, the SGS 3 with CM9 and even the CM10 builds have been AMAZING!!!! I am getting 48 hours with decent use on a charge with CM9 and CM10, and with the stock I was getting about 20+ hours with the same amount of use.
With CM9 and CM10, there is no way any other phone even comes close in terms of performance, battery, useability and fun. With CM10 and project butter, it is just fantastic performance and smooth as butter.... LOL.
See all you guys over there... and the forum over there is handeled much better no one puts up with crap over there, and bad posts get removed so fast it is not even funny.
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Everything you just mentioned has me now on my way to the closest Best Buy for a 'buy back' on my A2! Was going to do so yesterday, but decided to wait. Now I'm sold...
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Man... Still stuck with A2. I need to gather up $500 somehow!!!
Apex_Strider said:
Everything you just mentioned has me now on my way to the closest Best Buy for a 'buy back' on my A2! Was going to do so yesterday, but decided to wait. Now I'm sold...
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Good luck, I hope you get it, it is a bad A$$ phone, and so easy to do anything to and you have CWM working by default on this phone.. just flash the rooted image with ODIN and then install ROM Manager, and have it flash the latest version of recovery and touch recovery works so nice.....
All I can say is you will love this beast.
I am torn between the s3 and the one x.
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I also hard bricked my phone, but I'm kinda glad I did. I went to AT&T and told them it bricked from an OTA update, so they told me they'll send out a new one and I'll have to ship the bricked one to them. Then I was going to exchange the new one along with my Samsung Captivate for the Galaxy S III (in total I'll get $120 off ). My question is, is there a chance that AT&T will figure out I bricked it from the leaked update?
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I also hard bricked my phone, but I'm kinda glad I did. I went to AT&T and told them it bricked from an OTA update, so they told me they'll send out a new one and I'll have to ship the bricked one to them. Then I was going to exchange the new one along with my Samsung Captivate for the Galaxy S III (in total I'll get $120 off ). My question is, is there a chance that AT&T will figure out I bricked it from the leaked update?
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Nope.
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Clericgram said:
I am torn between the s3 and the one x.
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The SGS 3 all the way... the one x does not have an SDcard slot, so you HAVE to have unlimited data, and if you don't then you are going to be screwed if you like to have music and pics and stuff at your fingertips, because you will have to use cloud services for all that. Oh and the one x does not have a replaceable battery. Oh and AOSP and AOKP have official builds for the SGS 3, good luck with that on the one X.
Good! I was afraid that they would of asked for the replacement back after I traded it for a GSIII. Thanks for the quick reply by the way.
sjc807 said:
Good! I was afraid that they would of asked for the replacement back after I traded it for a GSIII. Thanks for the quick reply by the way.
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They will ask for it back possibly, but don't worry, I have done this with phones I have totally hacked, and I always play very dumb and act like it is AT&T's fault my phone broke... they really do not care, becuase they will have already given you your upgrade... just say that you did a factory rest and had to redo the OTA and it will not even turn on now... they will pretty much tell you NP, just don't say the words ICS or leak...
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They will ask for it back possibly, but don't worry, I have done this with phones I have totally hacked, and I always play very dumb and act like it is AT&T's fault my phone broke... they really do not care, becuase they will have already given you your upgrade... just say that you did a factory rest and had to redo the OTA and it will not even turn on now... they will pretty much tell you NP, just don't say the words ICS or leak...
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That's pretty much what I told them lol. As long as they don't realize that I updated to the leak I'll be fine. Thanks again, I feel better now.

The hard "lessons learned" from buying the Droid Charge

Let's see:
Lack of run time memory - check
Bloatware from Samsung and Verizon - check, check
Not able to buy many apps due to lack of memory unless you root the phone - check
Phone that should be recalled because of poorly built charge port - check
Verizon telling Google not to sell tethering software, FCC lawsuit, Verizon pays 1.5 million - check while we can't buy the software until a couple of months ago (legally) - check
Charging $299 and no ICS or JB plus we almost didn't get an upgrade period. Buy the OS that's on the phone and don't believe their promises - check, check, check, and check
Loss of unlimited plan for next phone - check
That's enough checks...I''ve learned my lesson many times over, how about you?
The reason for this is...?
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The reason for this is...?
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PSA... don't buy cheap android phones. Infact, don't buy phones from VZW unless you shop at Costco.
dbaps said:
Let's see:
Lack of run time memory - check
Bloatware from Samsung and Verizon - check, check
Not able to buy many apps due to lack of memory unless you root the phone - check
Phone that should be recalled because of poorly built charge port - check
Verizon telling Google not to sell tethering software, FCC lawsuit, Verizon pays 1.5 million - check while we can't buy the software until a couple of months ago (legally) - check
Charging $299 and no ICS or JB plus we almost didn't get an upgrade period. Buy the OS that's on the phone and don't believe their promises - check, check, check, and check
Loss of unlimited plan for next phone - check
That's enough checks...I''ve learned my lesson many times over, how about you?
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I like my Charge now that I'm able to run Tweaked 3 on it. It was the first 4g smart phone that Samsung put out. It's not perfect but at the time it was better than both the Thunderbolt and the Revolution. Of course all the later phones are better. What do you expect?
Of course it was overpriced. It's an early model. Look at the number of smart phones that have been sold since. A Commodore 64 computer was over $2,000. Look at what you get now for about $500. That's the way of electronics. It's the price we pay for being early adopters.
The only problem I have is terrible data signals at work. But that's a network problem. Verizon is having some trouble trying to implement 4g signal nationwide. That's to be expected. You didn't get ripped off. You just paid the price for being an early adopter.
All I hear is b*tching and moaning. When I bought this phone, it was the best one out. If I had to go back and buy again, I'd still pick this phone.
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dbaps said:
Bloatware from Samsung and Verizon - check, check
Not able to buy many apps due to lack of memory unless you root the phone - check
Phone that should be recalled because of poorly built charge port - check
Verizon telling Google not to sell tethering software, FCC lawsuit, Verizon pays 1.5 million - check while we can't buy the software until a couple of months ago (legally) - check
Charging $299 and no ICS or JB plus we almost didn't get an upgrade period. Buy the OS that's on the phone and don't believe their promises - check, check, check, and check
Loss of unlimited plan for next phone - check
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1. This is on EVERY phone. Have you even been to a Verizon store lately and played with a new one? IT STILL HAS BLOATWARE.
2. This is because most apps are now geared towards much more powerful devices. It's not the end of the world. And if you know about XDA, this shouldn't be a problem.
3. I've seriously never had a problem with this, and even very few on this forum have had an issue. Maybe it's operator error!
4. If this actually affected you, maybe you shouldn't have an android phone. Tethering apps were still very readily available.
5. Again, this was the best device out when it was new. You can't predict the future, so you're taking a gamble when you buy it. Most phones of this era are stuck on GB too. They never made ANY promises.
6. Okay, I have no response to this. It seriously sucks. But that's with EVERY phone, and your thread implies that it's the Charge's fault.
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I feel wronged by Verizon because of losing unlimited data too. I was told when I shelled out the $299 for the phone that I would have unlimited data as long as I kept a smart phone on my account. I guess I understand why they've backed out of it. Too many 4g phones using unlimited data plus subsidizing all the new phones would be expensive. But still, they promised me I'd always have unlimited data. If I could get decent signal where I work I could listen to Pandora or stream an occasional Netflix movie and I could use up 2 GB data pretty easy. But as it is I don't use a lot of data. I would if I could. Believe me.
I was checking out the data coverage of the major cellular networks earlier today and it still looks like Verizon is the top dog. The others have quite a bit of catching up to do. I can upgrade on 1/22/12 with the discount. My contract ends in May. We'll see what develops. Since my Charge has become such a cool phone I don't mind using it for a while at all. It's getting a little beat up looking but that awesome Gorilla Glass screen is still in good shape.
It was the best phone at the time
I will say this, even though I listed all of those "issues," unlimited (grand-fathered) LTE made it all worthwhile. I don't regret getting the phone either.
When LTE first came out, it was faster than my home Fios connection. To be able to watch podcasts at work and not worry about the amount of data being used has been awesome. My neighbor cut our Fios line outside and we used the LTE connection as a hotspot for five devices in my house until it was fixed.
But I must admit that until buying this phone, I never would of thought to check the amount of memory utilization on a phone.
I also agree it was the best phone at the time on Verizon.
I can't wait for March and my next phone.
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I will say this, even though I listed all of those "issues," unlimited (grand-fathered) LTE made it all worthwhile. I don't regret getting the phone either.
When LTE first came out, it was faster than my home Fios connection. To be able to watch podcasts at work and not worry about the amount of data being used has been awesome. My neighbor cut our Fios line outside and we used the LTE connection as a hotspot for five devices in my house until it was fixed.
But I must admit that until buying this phone, I never would of thought to check the amount of memory utilization on a phone.
I also agree it was the best phone at the time on Verizon.
I can't wait for March and my next phone.
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I must admit, your original post was kinda funny...
however, I challenge you to find me one person that has had their smartphone for more than 2 years and is not considering getting a different phone....
I still have my DC. I heard there a was an ICS ROM out for it somewhere. But besides that I've had my USCC Mesmerize for over a year now. We got all kinds of ICS and JB ROMs from the Fascinate on VZW. Being development is good there's been no need to upgrade. Really wish the DC would get more love.
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jco23 said:
I must admit, your original post was kinda funny...
however, I challenge you to find me one person that has had their smartphone for more than 2 years and is not considering getting a different phone....
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Yeah it's pretty much impossible to look at the new phones without wanting one when the one you have is so seriously under powered. If we weren't able to run a good debloated rom like Tweaked we'd be screwed. The Charge seriously doesn't have enough ram.
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Loss of unlimited plan for next phone - check
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hmm, i can upgrade right now, upgrade again tomorrow, upgrade again in a few months and keep my unlimited data. it's your choice if you have to have a new phone and start up a new 2yr contract. i don't have any reason to and will just pick up phones off contract. wait a year or a few months less and they generally drop for $300 or less.
stueycaster said:
Yeah it's pretty much impossible to look at the new phones without wanting one when the one you have is so seriously under powered. If we weren't able to run a good debloated rom like Tweaked we'd be screwed. The Charge seriously doesn't have enough ram.
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At the time I bought this phone, there were two 4G phones choices, and you had the option of a little more power under the hood with the Thunderbolt, or much better battery life (Like. 3X better. The battery life on the Thunderbolt was HORRID) and a better screen with the Droid Charge.
I wish there were more options with ROMs for this phone, but that's literally my only disappointment with it.
That said, my upgrade isn't far off, and I certainly look forward to a new phone, but c'est la vie. It's served me well for almost two years, now.
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I wish there were more options with ROMs for this phone, but that's literally my only disappointment with it.
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Yeah there are only a few roms available but Tweaked is awesome. No others are needed.
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stueycaster said:
Yeah it's pretty much impossible to look at the new phones without wanting one when the one you have is so seriously under powered. If we weren't able to run a good debloated rom like Tweaked we'd be screwed. The Charge seriously doesn't have enough ram.
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Yeah there are only a few roms available but Tweaked is awesome. No others are needed.
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Oh, I agree that it's darn good (And is what I'm running).
But I'd love for AOSP to be available on the phone, so we could move to ICS (And JB, and beyond) instead of being stuck with the whims of Samsung who decided to not upgrade the Charge to ICS because they couldn't also port TouchWiz...
I still miss my charge..Verizon has tried sending nexus and s3 and neither has been as stable as my droid charge was..mind you they send refurbished phones so I understand why I can't get a perfect phone..Verizon insurance is good in the aspect of getting unlimited replacements but almost 95% of what they send is ****..at least I still have my unlimited and on a sketchy ass s3..I will prob be selling this phone in the next month or 2 so I can upgrade
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Wanna trade?
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I would probably trade
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jager420 said:
I still miss my charge..Verizon has tried sending nexus and s3 and neither has been as stable as my droid charge was..mind you they send refurbished phones so I understand why I can't get a perfect phone..Verizon insurance is good in the aspect of getting unlimited replacements but almost 95% of what they send is ****..at least I still have my unlimited and on a sketchy ass s3..I will prob be selling this phone in the next month or 2 so I can upgrade
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That's a bash of the Verizon CLNR program more than it is the phones. When I had to send my Rezound back, it took 3 tries to get a "like new" replacement that was actually like new. The first replacement had a screen that was lifting completely off the phone. The second replacement's USB port died within 2 weeks. Their "100-point check" is a complete joke.
It took me three Charges to get a working one. First one had a software meltdown, and the second one wouldn't accept a charge. Now this one is having issues with data when on Tweaked (I'm running CM 10 so obviously i don't have data now, but the problems started earlier). Got another year before my upgrade...
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I bought my charge as CLNR back in 9/2011 ($100 at the time, I think). still running great, thanks to this community.

For Those Upgrading To The HTC DNA

I've been searching for the lowest prices for the HTC DNA and stumbled upon this deal and figured I'd share it with you guys.
The HTC DNA for only $119.99... probably the best deal out there right now.
If you use coupon code TALK4TEN it MIGHT lower the price to $99.99, but it didn't work for me. Anyways, I figured it would maybe be worth a shot for you since it has worked for many other people... but it MAY have expired.
Enjoy guys.
http://www.justmywireless.com/DROID-DNA-by-HTC--4G-LTE-Verizon-Wireless_p_124.html
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That price is so low, it's like a trick you play on old people!
I just posted this.
Why would anyone buy another HTC phone after this? Maybe you'll get Android 5 in 2015.
lukesed said:
Why would anyone buy another HTC phone after this? Maybe you'll get Android 5 in 2015.
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More like the latest jelly bean a year after it's released, then an announced update to key lime pie that never arrives.
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I recently decided I'd just wait for the M7 in February.
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The thunderbolt is horrible I can't believe I'm stuck with this cricket like phone!
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My Thunderbolt is not horrible. I am a power user and while I have had problems with mine, the worst issues were with custom roms. Data drops were fixed with a new SIM card. I do have an extended battery that lasts all day. I was ready to throw this phone against a wall when I kept having issues with different roms. I had to remove root because the company I work for requires MobileIron to connect to our exchange server. Since I have been back to factory condition the phone actually works pretty well!
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braxtoq said:
My Thunderbolt is not horrible. I am a power user and while I have had problems with mine, the worst issues were with custom roms. Data drops were fixed with a new SIM card. I do have an extended battery that lasts all day. I was ready to throw this phone against a wall when I kept having issues with different roms. I had to remove root because the company I work for requires MobileIron to connect to our exchange server. Since I have been back to factory condition the phone actually works pretty well!
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Agreed! I love my TB. I have flashed so many ROMS i can not even keep them all straight. I have been stuck with Liquid ICS for a few months and it has been FANTASTIC! I flashed the most recent dual radio last night and hope it clears up the data in/out issues i have had. I would love them to fix the video camara and netflix at some point but from what i read Liquid isn't working on the project anymore. Is that true?
I have an extended battery and with Liquid i get at the very least 16 hours of use including some standby time. Liquid's rom made a world of difference on battery life.
In any case i am fairly new to this forum. Played over at CM with their rom for a while and still have it on my Touchpad. Love that rom!
Anybody know of a good rom for Droid X by Motorola? I rooted and installed one on my wifes a few months back but know it isnt perfect. I cant recall what it is at the moment but if anyone has had a good experience with a Droid X rom please share.
joelfranke said:
Agreed! I love my TB. I have flashed so many ROMS i can not even keep them all straight. I have been stuck with Liquid ICS for a few months and it has been FANTASTIC! I flashed the most recent dual radio last night and hope it clears up the data in/out issues i have had. I would love them to fix the video camara and netflix at some point but from what i read Liquid isn't working on the project anymore. Is that true?
I have an extended battery and with Liquid i get at the very least 16 hours of use including some standby time. Liquid's rom made a world of difference on battery life.
In any case i am fairly new to this forum. Played over at CM with their rom for a while and still have it on my Touchpad. Love that rom!
Anybody know of a good rom for Droid X by Motorola? I rooted and installed one on my wifes a few months back but know it isnt perfect. I cant recall what it is at the moment but if anyone has had a good experience with a Droid X rom please share.
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Off rootz wiki .. they have many good ones. From vortex remix to wizard's miui gb. Those are great for battery and being a daily driver. I have miui on mine still...
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Droid DNA , GalaxyIII and Galaxy Note 2
It looks like that same website (justmywireless.com) is having a one day only sale on the 18th.
They do not show the promotional prices yet
Judging by the reply in the blog, I am assuming it's going to be a big sale
I've been wanting to get the DNA, I guess I will wait until the 18th
Thanks for the link
up2nuttn said:
It looks like that same website (justmywireless.com) is having a one day only sale on the 18th.
They do not show the promotional prices yet
Judging by the reply in the blog, I am assuming it's going to be a big sale
I've been wanting to get the DNA, I guess I will wait until the 18th
Thanks for the link
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As a DNA user who loves his phone, it's arty if you're going to wait till the 18th I'd wait till the m7 odds announced on the 19th just to see if and when it's coming to Verizon. That's just me, but unless you're hellbent on the DNA, ous wait to see if the DNA+ it's right around the corner.
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vdChild said:
As a DNA user who loves his phone, it's arty if you're going to wait till the 18th I'd wait till the m7 odds announced on the 19th just to see if and when it's coming to Verizon. That's just me, but unless you're hellbent on the DNA, ous wait to see if the DNA+ it's right around the corner.
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I went back to the site (justmywireless.com) to see if there were any hints as to the sale price. They have it in sneak peek mode...I picked up the DNA for me and Galaxy 3's for my wife and son.....I paid $160 for all 3!!
They even have Galaxy 3 (white and brown) renewed units for free with upgrade....I was seriosuly thinking of going that route for my son, but in the end paid 44.99 for his new one.
The m7 is going to be priced too high I'm sure, that's why I didn't wait.
What is the catch here?
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What is the catch here?
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hopefully none! I should be getting my order on tuesday, so I will let you know
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hopefully none! I should be getting my order on tuesday, so I will let you know
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I remember hearing that the deals on wirefly and amazon were so good because their penalties were so high and because they technically count as a premium reseller, and thus you have to go to then with warranty issues and whatnot instead of going to Verizon. I wonder if this reseller is the same.
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