Although android is miles ahead of ios hardware wise , its seems that ios is snapier than android
Please post your thought ,and why you think that is or its not
Android has to deal with hundreds of unique hardware configurations, iOS with only a few, and with those few being developed in tandem with iOS itself, by the same team.
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Its true, I has a 3Gs and a 4 (still have), now with the S3 and I feel that android dont work "as fast" as iOS in menus scrolls and all that. For other hand, I feel a good improve about that from ICS and a JB leaks that I'm using, but still, not as fast, but I have to wait for JB final release from Samsung to see how that goes.
Having used jelly bean with project butter for the last few days, I have to say it's incredibly lag free!
ios can be laggy when you try to do anything apple doesn't want you to do like jailbreak it.
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Is not the fact of doing a jailbreak to your device that make your phone laggy, that can happen if you install many cydia tweaks.
How about google now vs siri? has anyone seen this vid?youtube.com/watch?v=RX8LuyR5Kx8 what do you think?
There are bad Android devices, and good ones. That finding a good one requires a little research (Galaxy SII good, Droid/Milestone X2 bad) is like searching for a car, but I suppose if one is entirely uncreative one shall just get an iPhone which is always somewhat high end, but always very high priced.
I like to think most people are more competent than iPhone, because that mentality won't get you through all of life.
I think its optimization for the hardware (look at WP7) and hardware acceleration, which Android did not have until ICS.
When you load a page on iOS, and you drag around while it's still loading, there's no lag because if you look closely loading stops, to focus all power on the finger.
There is also no true multitasking on iOS (and WP7 for that matter!) which probably also speeds up their system.
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Good instincts, but the conversation seems decently productive so I'll let it go for now.
Jellybean on the Galaxy Nexus is incredibly smooth. The gap is definitely getting smaller.
Android used to be laggy.. but 2011 is where android went smoother with the high end phones!
What do you expect from a company that decides to sue other companies because their quarterly profits are down. iOS is basically dumbed-down and very uncustomizable because of all the sheep that follow.
IOS is smooth because as soon as you touch the screen the phone drops all other processes and focuses on rendering the UI on a higher priority.
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And especially iOS can work only in that way, u don't have an homescreen and u can't change nothing except the backgroung image...That phone is studied to be only how they thought it..
Android since Gingerbread is OK. But Jellybean I think is even better than iOS.
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My experience with iOS stems from a 2nd gen iPod touch years ago, but the experience was very smooth. iOS still loads web pages oddly, but I think the comparison to android is more or less equated at this point.
It's much less speedyness of the OS more, especially with ICS and JB, and more preference than ever.
Android is best
You can't tell Android is laggy. There are hundreds of various android devices. As android is designed for various devices & hardwares, there is a tradeoff in performance. But only the iPhone is running IOS and hardware's are fixed, the applications only need to concentrate on certain cretaria.
By the way, the customization is too much restricted in iPhone. I saw iPhone developers have to learn, what they can do & what they can't before start development. Because all iPhone application will be checked by Apple before publishing.
But in android you can do whatever you can. There is the tradeoff.
Whatever is the performance & other issues. I'll always stick to Android.
Jelly Bean is lag free on my Galaxy Tab GT P1000 (release under Froyo!!!), all apps run smoothly and the battery is lasts longer.:cyclops:
I think android is more and more friendly and kernel access fasters as its updates, so you can keep your device more longer than on iOs who makes me think it has easter eggs in it... (got a iphone 3g on 4.2, can't do nothing with it...just have (not) to buy another one)
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So I convince my sisters husband to trade in his iphone 3Gs for an HTC Desire HD. Within a week he is selling it on ebay, siteing very weak battery performance, poor multitouch implementation and general Lag as the main issues. He's actually gone back the 3GS.
I am an android fan an user. But while the poll seems to suggest the Desire HD is the best android phone of the year personally I disagree. The battery life on this device is absolutely appalling. Whats the point in having all those features when you MUST disable pretty much all connectivity/widgets etc to get a days use out of it? Personally I think it's poor engineering on HTC'S part. This in my mind shows a lack of thought as well on HTC's part.
How is it also that a device with the most ram on the market and one of the most capable CPU's is still laggy? I've seen it myself, it does pale in comparison to an iphone 4. And the multitouch implementation is also not as smooth. Now these issues wouldn't bother me as much because I love the android platform but for regular more superficial consumers who aren't looking to hack their device (like my sstsres husband) these are obvious problems and perceived as a direct indication of the superiority of apple devices.
I used to be an HTC fan but I am now becoming skeptical. My next android device will almost certainly not run sense UI as I think it is a contributing LAG factor and provides little actual benefit due to the Weak battery performance on most high end HTC devices.
So can anyone explain to me why all high end android devices are considerably more laggy and the UI's less fluid than the Iphone 4 and even the 3GS? Is it the software coding? Graphics engine? Manufacturer specific optimizations? The platform as a whole? Multi tasking? Hardware/Software integration? The way the transitions are implemented?
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So can anyone explain to me why all high end android devices are considerably more laggy and the UI's less fluid than the Iphone 4 and even the 3GS? Is it the software coding? Graphics engine? Manufacturer specific optimizations? The platform as a whole? Multi tasking? Hardware/Software integration? The way the transitions are implemented?
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I hate I can't be of assistance but I have not experienced lag on my high-end android device.
I see lag and have a HTC Evo. It lags while scrolling through web pages and it lags while scrolling through the apps. This is because of the Android OS. Open up system panel and scroll up and down in the open apps and watch the cpu spike to almost 100%...WTF. This is what causes the stuttery look. It's not smooth at all compared to the Iphone.
So can anyone explain to me why all high end android devices are considerably more laggy and the UI's less fluid than the Iphone 4 and even the 3GS? Is it the software coding? Graphics engine? Manufacturer specific optimizations? The platform as a whole? Multi tasking? Hardware/Software integration? The way the transitions are implemented?
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The software isn't coded to efficiently offload to the GPU.
Dalvik isn't as great as other VM implementations (like .NET CF, I'm not sure if Apple uses a VM implementation - I have used, but never owned, an iOS device).
Manufacturer additions can clog the device up.
Also, Location services running in the background (even with GPS off) use your Cell Radio - draining battery. C2DM is nice and all, but most applications are coded also to work with 2.1 devices and tend to fail at choosing which one to use exclusively on FroYo devices. This leads to more battery drain.
Widgets use too much battery power. They need something similar to Live Tiles or PUSH-based updating instead of polling for widgets. If Google would develop decent stock Widgets, we'd be less dependent on these battery draining third-party or manufacturer widgets.
Most Android phones poll for Facebook/Twitter/etc. updates at specified intervals, using up battery. In addition, the Official (and third-party) Facebook/Twitter apps poll alongside the Android integrations, using up double the amount of battery power needed to update 2-4+ separate entities with the same data. Manufacturers should just integrate the official apps, instead of making redundant integrations into the base system. Waste of resources and battery power.
The base Android system is simply less efficient than something like Symbian when it comes to conserving data and Android developers generally don't worry about these types of things until after their applications are released, and it can take them months to remedy the issues due to the inefficiencies in the code, etc.
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I hate I can't be of assistance but I have not experienced lag on my high-end android device.
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Thanks N8ter, nice for someone to finally shed some light on the subject. Really think they need to address some of these issues, especially if they are to change the mainstreams perceptions of the OS.
Any chance this little update's gonna help you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx3pdWBlZ34&feature=player_embedded
I've yet to see any great lag on my Desire Z.
Sure, it can lag from times. But usually doesn't. This is probably because of OC and using a non-rosie rom.
Using a non-sense rom would help even more, as Sense itself causes lag.
I don't get lag on my gt540.
And thats a low end phone running 2.1.
Why you getting lag?
Well,it's mostly due to lack of UI hardware acceleration.The iCrap had it first because Apple needs to develop their OS for only one piece of hardware,which means it can be optimized in every possible way.Android and other platforms(although I think WP7 also has hardware acceleration) lack this and all of the UI is for the CPU to handle.Software rendering is zip compared to hardware,as GPUs are far more powerful than CPUs,they just use a limited instruction set,but they need no compiler.
Hope I helped!
It's a serious design flaw the needs to be addressed. Use the GPU, Luke! It feels awful using an Android handset, especially if you come from the perfect (albeit "limited" in some respects) world of another platform (I don't want to mention its name here). This problem completely shatters the user-experience.
If you, like millions of others, want to see this design flaw addressed, then cast your vote here:
(I can't post links, just search for "Android Issue 6914" - should be the first result).
Also, looks like Samsung are doing something about it with their latest Android 2.2.1 update that should be hitting the UK soon:
(again, can't post links, go to YouTube and tack this on the end of the URL: "watch?v=JpH3oX9RhIE").
(Youtube: watch?v=MkZZXeF5uV8)
At the moment, "Android" in synonymous with "lag" and "sluggishness". The above YouTube links of 2.2.1 on the Galaxy S show Android the way nature intended it to run! They show that things can be different, and we don't have to suffer that shame and embarrassment of sub-standard UI performance that's a far second to (you know who)!!
I for one am hoping Samsung's example with 2.2.1 is a sign of things to come (I've been hoping this for over 2 years now - sigh...).
I hope so as well. Lay is a major issue and to me waste battery life.
I get no lag with my vibrant even with little storage left.
I rarely ever get lag, only time I have on my Inc is when I downloaded an app that didn't agree with the phone.
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Had no lag on my Nexus One with Froyo or now with Gingerbread.
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Had no lag on my Nexus One with Froyo or now with Gingerbread.
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Go try the Microbes LWP. You'll soon see it
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Go try the Microbes LWP. You'll soon see it
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HaHa! I'll take your word on that one and stick with my stable rom...for now
Samsung Fascinate. No lag. Battery about the same as an iPhone unless put through rigorous usage. Amazing screen / multitouch.
Screw HTC.
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I guess you guys have less than 50 apps..I understand..really.
On my at this point low powered Eris I'm running with sense and have 60 apps installed with almost no lag
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I have 104 ..
My dad is using a stock Mytouch 4G and I noticed some lag when I was playing around with it, and we've only had our phones for about a month . I am running CM7 RC2 on mine and I think it's safe to say that sense is what causes a good part of the lag. I think GPU acceleration is what is needed to keep android from running dry due to laggy devices. I know a couple of people who immediatly opted to get the iPhone over android because the devices were faster.
Which OS is good, reliable and stable, android or iphone?
Honestly, they are both good, reliable and stable operating systems and each has their own strengths and weakness. Its really a question of personal preference. I prefer android and the open source nature of the system, and am not a fan of the highly proprietary apple brand. Both OS are good, but you have sooooo many more options when it comes to android over iOS, from the phones to apps and more.
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Which OS is good, reliable and stable, android or iphone?
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Compelling question, sir. Let us consult the Magic 8 Ball, for reasoning necessary to arrive at the answer is far too complex for minds of a non-magical nature.
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Which OS is good, reliable and stable, android or iphone?
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Are you trying to start a fight? Lol.
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Iphone to me one phone one operating system easy to make apps and games for compared to androids many operating system and most apps run on certain operating systems like netflix or Verizon with exclusive apps and games. But i love android open platform but for the phones that's locked android sucks stock roms are laggy.
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I have an HD2 running CyanogenMOD 7, an HTC Inspire 4G unrooted running Android 2.2.1 (FroYo) and an iPhone 4. I also have a Samsung Focus running Windows Phone 7.
Out of all of those the Androids (HD2 and Inspire) are the most fun to use. They work flawlessly and have more convenience features than my iPhone 4 or Focus. Nevertheless, my iPhone 4 is my main phone and is the primary phone I take with me all the time. The reason being is because it is the most reliable system ever created. The Androids, for me, work flawlessly, but are prone to issues from what I've observed from other people. And my Inspire, in the beginning, almost got me lost because of a screwy compass and non-functioning Google maps app (maybe due to GPS or lack of data signal). Since a subsequent update the Inspire has been flawless.
But I trust my iPhone 4. It may not have the convenience of a free voice guided nav like on the Androids, but I can manage fine with the maps system it does have. Nonetheless, I love Android and feel it is superb and would not be without it.
Decipher through that and see if I declared one over the other.
Both have their strengths although i think at the moment android has more strengths as Apple is playing catchup with the iphone5 and iOS 5. I like androids open source nature and its general layout is just 'cooler.' Most android users go on and on about fanboys but the truth is almost all iphone users are not fanboys, infact i didnt even know ABOUT android until mid 2010! That's how bad their marketing (and how good Apple's) was. Most have been duped by Apple's excellent marketing which they've done fantastically over here in Australia and don't realise there are other options.
Both. The choice between the two is simply personal preference.
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Both have their strengths although i think at the moment android has more strengths as Apple is playing catchup with the iphone5 and iOS 5. I like androids open source nature and its general layout is just 'cooler.' Most android users go on and on about fanboys but the truth is almost all iphone users are not fanboys, infact i didnt even know ABOUT android until mid 2010! That's how bad their marketing (and how good Apple's) was. Most have been duped by Apple's excellent marketing which they've done fantastically over here in Australia and don't realise there are other options.
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Apple is all about brand name, android is about functionality features scailabilty, now Apple has seen what an Android can do they're trying to play catch up with IOS5 see how they treat their developers now. For example a few ebook developers had to go out of business because of all the fees Apple charges
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better overall experience def. android
apps/games are 1-2 yrs ahead in terms of innovation and smoothiness: iphone
Depends on what you like to do with your phone...if you like to explore your phone 360° in complete liberty i'll remand you to an android device...if you like apple style get an iphone
I prefer android devices.
My friends have had nothing but problems with their iPhones.
Buddy had 2 iPhone4's die out on him in a month (speaker, microphone and one just wouldn't hold a charge) and he's since upgraded to an Arc (android).
I believe it's personal preference, but if your buying a new phone then the iPhone just can't compete... Think about it, the iPhone4 is old technology. There are new insanely powerful and innovative Android devices released every other week...
Let me put it this way. Galaxy S vs Iphone4 is/was a toss up. Side by side reviewers often gave them ties or a slight edge one way or the other. The Galaxy S is over a year old and the new Android devices are lightyears ahead of it. If you read a review that DOESN'T say a phone like the Arc destroys, yes, destroys, the iPhone4 in every category then the reviewer is likely a fanboy/on the Apple payroll.
I'm sorry, but it's an old phone. Besides, the o/s are completely different styles. It's a lot like the original windows vs mac vs linux debate. Mac=iPhone, Android=Linux (literally)... Both excel at different tasks and each has a loyal fanbase... It's all preference without question in terms of OS. In terms of hardware I don't think there's a comparison with any new phone.
Neither, my friend. webOS is the better os.
Android......Anyday
I feel the iPhone is outdated with regard to hardware. I mean, the old galaxy s which came out before the iPhone4 is better than the iPhone 4, let alone all these new phones. People say gaming on apple devices is better. Never Understood how. I mean, it's the same games and the same developers and android gets all the more important and good games
I personally prefer Android, because I like the open source nature of the system. I love that there are so many Android device options out there now. However, I do have to admit that iPhone has that extra something that somehow android devices just haven't mastered yet. A touch response is like a .000000098 seconds faster in iPhone vs. Android phones, but I can tell there's that little bit of .000000098 seconds lag....lol. But bottom line--Android for me
As a lead support tech for a large company, I have to answer this question every time I respond to a smartphone issue, because the user always ask, should I have something else or will X product give me less trouble?
Really, it all comes down to personal preference. Some people only use a phone for a very limited set of tasks(email, phone, games), and in those cases it comes down to which hardware/cellular provider the user wants.
I like to use mine for any and everything as it helps me every minute of every day either at work or with personal stuff, and since I am a techie and like to tweak my device to my liking I prefer a rooted Android device.
Rooted HTC Thunderbolt
both os are good.but i prefer Android...iphone is nothing for me
In all seriousness, iPhone. A jailbroken iPhone 4 is really an incredible piece of hardware, and especially with iOS 5 the software is second to none. Compared to any Android phone, it has a more complete feature set and fewer bugs and problems. It's a more mature, more slick overall system.
That said, I use Android. I think Android is really, really awesome and there's some fantastic hardware out for it. And it's overall much cheaper to be an Android user on Sprint than an iOS user on AT&T and Verizon.
I like the Android the best, definitely
But then again i havent really used an iPhone, only my moms, lol.
Before I begin, I am fairly new to posting actively on XDA but I am far from new to XDA and Android. Please also note that I am not a developer or Android coder I am a Grad Student with much interest in technology and of course the Nexus S being it's my baby
So, this is all in reference to two things, one is this artical posted by a ex-Google intern, in reply to a former Google Android engineer. https://plus.google.com/100838276097451809262/posts/VDkV9XaJRGS and two, the latest and greatest Ice Cream Sandwich.
The post is about why Android phones UI is generally more laggy compared to the likes of Windows Phone, and iOS. I am not going to go into details much on this so please read the link, it is really quite interesting.
Here are my two cents on the whole UI Lag discussion that I thought I would bring up here to see what you guys think.
I am currently using a normal Nexus S rooted and running the Crossbones ICS ROM, and I have used many other ICS ROMs as well. Before I rooted my phone and tried out some custom ROMs, I was using stock Android 2.3.X for several months, and I was satisfied... but not impressed with the visuals Android had to offer. True I knew all about Android before buying the phone but I was expecting a little more from Google' flagship device (At the time) and was wanting a little more eye candy: Thus leading to me rooting the phone after much debate of waiting for ICS to officially come out or skipping into the joys of early betas and amazing 2.3.X ROMs. Now, being a person who likes a good looking ROM and all the smooth eye candy I went over to MIUI for quite some time (BrainMasters 2.3.7 version) and I stuck to it for a fair time. MIUI was a vast improvement in the browser, UI and everything in general which is why I liked it so much, yet it was still totally stable and very fast.
Moving on to ICS, now in fairness I am not using a official ICS ROM but all the ones I have tried were identical in overall differences that I may mention.
With Android 4.0 I noticed that there was a IMMEDIATELY noticeable difference in the design (I really love a good looking ROM) and more importantly the smooth performance of... EVERYTHING! To more clearly state my point here is what I mean mostly...
Android 2.3.X
Load up desktop version of YouTube and I scroll around finding...
-Delay in response time
-Drop in FPS
-Video and flash content is very choppy and doesn't hold to frame well
-Pinch to zoom works smooth but initial response is delayed
etc.
Android 4.0.3
Load up desktop version of YouTube (Or ANY webpage I have tried on it) and see...
-Response is immediate and very smooth on scroll
-DOES NOT JITTER WHEN FULLY ZOOMED OUT
-Pinch to zoom works 100%
-Maintains high FPS no noticed drops
-(Amazingly...) Flash content on all sites tried stays not only in frame and in tact with the page but video plays at a CONSISTENT FPS (Something Dual-Core 2.3 phones suffer on!)
-Sometimes has to reload certain areas once panned and or zoomed.
I encourage you to test this yourself if you can on both versions
The battle claimed in link I posted is that you can have a smooth UI but background processes suffer, well on Android 4.0.3 it seems they have both, because it is smooth (As your eyes will tell you) and it loads say for example images on a website AS you scroll and zoom where as in iOS sometimes pinch to zoom or scroll will stop all loading. Websites with timers are a good example...
iPhone/iOS
Zooming/Panning with a timer on the webpage FREEZES the timer.
Android 2.3.X
Zooming/Panning with a timer may stop the timer, but when fingers are released countdown continues depending on how many seconds you held your finger down.
Android 4.0.3
Zooming/Panning with a timer keeps timer going and displays it accurately.
Basically what the engineer claims is that iOS prioritizes the look, and animation rendering thread, over anything else, and Android runs it along with everything else, and if Android chose to change this, then they would need a total framework re-write (Almost out of the question considering the consequences of such) Yet to me it seems like those Google engineers have worked out both?...
I am again not a coding person so if you are I would love to hear why this is?
Any input on this from your perspectives?
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Zooming/Panning with a timer on the webpage FREEZES the timer.
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It think it's kinda normal. The iPhone is not multi-task at all, when you do something, everything is paused and the processor is only working on what you're doing.
It's designed so.
Interesting though, thanks for the share.
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It think it's kinda normal. The iPhone is not multi-task at all, when you do something, everything is paused and the processor is only working on what you're doing.
It's designed so.
Interesting though, thanks for the share.
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So its a bfs kernel?
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If this Knowledge is key.
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Android chose to change this, then they would need a total framework re-write
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That's basically the TLDR.
Now, what will Google do? Probably nothing, quad cores are around the corner and rumors of today are, they'll start with their own HW.
They need to focus really fast, if they don't want to become the next Microsoft. Android has a large user base by now, but in this year, WP will come closer and closer. More and more larger apps from iOS & Android are now ported on this platform, which doesn't have UI framework issues and is quite well polished to run on older HW (comparison: HTC Desire vs HTC Trophy).
I was saddened to realize that Apple did the multitasking right. Why ?
Well, multitasking on the PC is not the same as on the phone. You don't have apps side by side.
So when I'm interacting with an app, I want full UI response and don't care what's running in the background or what system is doing. It should listen to ME and STOP anything else. That's why the iOS is so fluid.
Androids Intent system is brilliant, also the notification stuff. But as in UX, Apple (and MS - they went more Apple style here) knows what they're doing.
The older Androids suffered from the effects of a true multitasking system, though even the now dating single core Nexus S can easily and happily runs the latest and greatest practically lag free. The biggest factor in all of this is the kernel - the only one which i find noticeable lag in is the stock kernel. This should be the first place google looks at in upcoming devices, even though such enhancements aren't even needed anymore (all SGS2s i've used are comparable to the iphones fluidity).
In the coming years apple will likely fall behind. Phones are becoming like computers, and hell so many people are using phone OSs as a computer replacement (i'm looking at you, tablets).
A couple of rough years with weaker-than-preferred hardware are, in my opinion, worth it for getting a several year headstart. I'm normally not for an OS requiring lots of hardware to keep up, but the damn thing has more pretty effects than my windows desktop. Try running windows xp with 512mb of ram and a 1.4ghz celeron processor and let us remember what progress requires.
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The older Androids suffered from the effects of a true multitasking system, though even the now dating single core Nexus S can easily and happily runs the latest and greatest practically lag free.
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Sorry, but anyone saying any Android is lag free, compared to 60fps iOS fluidity - needs to get an eye surgery.
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Sorry, but anyone saying any Android is lag free, compared to 60fps iOS fluidity - needs to get an eye surgery.
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Lags in certain apps. Like twitter. However general UI is lag free. Lag comes here and there however.
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In general comparisons to an iphone 4 it really is not far off. Browsing around home screens and app menu and working with them is on par. Switching back and forth in the settings menu takes its time in comparison, which is definitely a pain, as well as lag when doing something that hasn't been done in a while. Some apps tend to fail with scrolling lists for reasons i do not know; not caching images maybe?
The iPhone definitely is better with the UI, there are no doubts here. But in a couple of days of switching back and forth it is starting to seem more fluid because of how iOS reacts with scrolling and the likes - it's very sensitive and flings around for a long time. I noticed this when playing with a 3gs and 4 next to each other, the 3gs was lagging but still felt very fluid - somehow.
Multi core cpus are the cure to this lag. Simple. I experience this lag on minor occasions with my nexus. I'm sure if I had a gnex I'd never notice it at all. Android does so much more than ios. As so, its not gonna run as smooth no matter what. I'd take a slightly laggy, fully functional ui over a closed in, non multitasking, uncustomizable heap of hipster trash anyday.
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That's basically the TLDR.
Now, what will Google do? Probably nothing, quad cores are around the corner and rumors of today are, they'll start with their own HW.
They need to focus really fast, if they don't want to become the next Microsoft. Android has a large user base by now, but in this year, WP will come closer and closer. More and more larger apps from iOS & Android are now ported on this platform, which doesn't have UI framework issues and is quite well polished to run on older HW (comparison: HTC Desire vs HTC Trophy).
I was saddened to realize that Apple did the multitasking right. Why ?
Well, multitasking on the PC is not the same as on the phone. You don't have apps side by side.
So when I'm interacting with an app, I want full UI response and don't care what's running in the background or what system is doing. It should listen to ME and STOP anything else. That's why the iOS is so fluid.
Androids Intent system is brilliant, also the notification stuff. But as in UX, Apple (and MS - they went more Apple style here) knows what they're doing.
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Sorry but none the Apps I use are on Windows Phone. I've even ask developers to port some apps over, and their answers were all the, "its not worth it".
Yeah its smooth, but that's it. I'll buy a iPhone if I want looks over function.
Fyi, everything is not 60 fps on IOS, just like Android.
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Multi core cpus are the cure to this lag.
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That's just a poor excuse for bad OS architecture planning and inefficient coding. A perfect proof for that is the above stated comparison of HTC Desire & HTC Trophy. Same hardware, totally different UI response.
And HW ain't the solution, unless they suddenly make a magical battery that lasts longer. You can't just stuff hardware and hope for the best. That's why proper coding on embedded devices is so important.
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Sorry but none the Apps I use are on Windows Phone. I've even ask developers to port some apps over, and their answers were all the, "its not worth it".
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True, at this point. But I see more and more apps that were ported first from iOS to Android, now being ported to WP and the number of major apps IS rising, even faster then it was for Android in 2009/2010.
Google can't sleep now, when he's still on the top.
Another point: they have more and more inconsistency issues then ever, just see the Nexus line. New device is on an older 4.0.2 , old dev phone is on 4.0.3, but not the 4G version. Hilarious. They managed to get their own phone line fragmented.
They start many different new services, then they get behind with trying to fit them all together, UI wise or function wise. Then in the middle they change the UI look. Like chasing their own tail.
We could go on and on, but if they want to make drastic changes for anything on the OS, now it's still the time. Specially since now there's an opportunity when they develop the next Android version.
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That's just a poor excuse for bad OS architecture planning and inefficient coding. A perfect proof for that is the above stated comparison of HTC Desire & HTC Trophy. Same hardware, totally different UI response.
And HW ain't the solution, unless they suddenly make a magical battery that lasts longer. You can't just stuff hardware and hope for the best. That's why proper coding on embedded devices is so important.
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You do understand how hardware grows? Smaller chips equal less power consumption. Like how the gs2 has better battery life than my nexus.. hardware IS the cure. This is why quad cores are being brought in so early. Do you not think Google knows this? Besides is this "lag" that big a deal to you folks?? Its barely noticeable on my nexus. My buddy just switched over from an iPhone 4 to an epic touch 4g and he wont stop talking about it. He's owned it for a month now and he always rubs in my face how fast it is and how lag free it is compared to his iPhone 4.
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You do understand how hardware grows? Smaller chips equal less power consumption. Like how the gs2 has better battery life than my nexus.. hardware IS the cure. This is why quad cores are being brought in so early. Do you not think Google knows this? Besides is this "lag" that big a deal to you folks??
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Yeah, it grows slowly, because the makers of HW want to collect $ from each iteration. HW is not the cure, it's one part of the equation. Power is nothing without control.
Yes, I think any micro lag is a BIG thing. Have you ever worked behind the PC with a ****ty/old mouse with the ball + a worn out mouse pad ? It stuck, skipped etc. Or consider moving your mouse around in on the desktop and the cursor stutters from the time to time. It's like someone slapping you in the face every single time. And that not what I expect from a couple hundred dollar device.
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That's just a poor excuse for bad OS architecture planning and inefficient coding. A perfect proof for that is the above stated comparison of HTC Desire & HTC Trophy. Same hardware, totally different UI response.
And HW ain't the solution, unless they suddenly make a magical battery that lasts longer. You can't just stuff hardware and hope for the best. That's why proper coding on embedded devices is so important.
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True, at this point. But I see more and more apps that were ported first from iOS to Android, now being ported to WP and the number of major apps IS rising, even faster then it was for Android in 2009/2010.
Google can't sleep now, when he's still on the top.
Another point: they have more and more inconsistency issues then ever, just see the Nexus line. New device is on an older 4.0.2 , old dev phone is on 4.0.3, but not the 4G version. Hilarious. They managed to get their own phone line fragmented.
They start many different new services, then they get behind with trying to fit them all together, UI wise or function wise. Then in the middle they change the UI look. Like chasing their own tail.
We could go on and on, but if they want to make drastic changes for anything on the OS, now it's still the time. Specially since now there's an opportunity when they develop the next Android version.
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Nah, windows phone isn't targeted at the Android market. Windows Phone is clearly after the iPhone market, however it fails big time. Its 2012 and still requires the use of cords. The major apps are pathetic, ever tried WhatsApp? Tango really sucks, angry birds doesn't even have all the levels, I could go on and on. Those are just the major apps, the other apps are even worse.
But yeah, its smooth. The UI gets beyond boring after a couple of weeks. I actually missed my static icons on Android. Hell the iPhone started looking good to me after dealing with my hd7.
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All of you are saying that Windows Phone and iOS have different priorities over Android and this is true. Apple believes in making everything look and function nicely with out actually adding anything new. Android is more like the true computer if anything. I think that in coming years with quad core phones Android will soon be able to dedicate a whole core at 1000mghz to the UI if they wanted to opposed to the current 100ish it has.
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All of you are saying that Windows Phone and iOS have different priorities over Android and this is true. Apple believes in making everything look and function nicely with out actually adding anything new. Android is more like the true computer if anything. I think that in coming years with quad core phones Android will soon be able to dedicate a whole core at 1000mghz to the UI if they wanted to opposed to the current 100ish it has.
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Heh. A laymans solution without thinking constructively.
You can throw 100 cores in if you want, but then what happens. On current dual core phones, the 2nd core is active only when needed. Battery life would be hammered down if it wasn't. Now imagine the same scenario for a quad. 1 core for UI animation ? Yeah, right for 4h of battery life perhaps.
This is from Cayniarb (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=2634309), question was if you can enable the 2nd core to be on all the time instead of just when needed :
"People forcing cpu1 (the second core) to be online all the time will destroy your battery life and very possibly cause permanent damage to the chip in your device. The second core comes online under load. It is supposed to work that way. The architecture here is multi-processor - not the same as the multi-core architecture people are more familiar with in desk/laptops. This means that it is 2 pretty much entirely independent CPUs cast on one piece of silicon (as opposed to 1 CPU with multiple processing cores). This architecture allows the second core to be 'hotplugged' offline. It saves on power consumption, reduces heat output, and increases the longterm stability of the chip. Additionally, the Snapdragon S3 is the only aSynchronous Multi-Processor (aSMP) available. The critical difference there is that when cpu1 comes online it operates fully independently of cpu0.
The problem that aSMP and SMP chips have in android is that the core operating system is not designed to distribute processes across multiple cores/processors. Effectively, what you get here is a single core phone clocked at 1.2Ghz except when you really push it, there is an extra 1.2Ghz available on top. It's still only working one thread at a time, so it is not multiprocessing.
In order for anyone to experience the real power and benefit of dual-core phones, the core operating system needs to be completely reworked to include multiprocessing support natively... Oh wait. Isn't that happening like next week or something?""
Not many apps are coded right now to properly use 2 cores and they exist almost for 1 year now. How long would it take to redone this for quads? Again, HW is nothing without coding it right.
Is this not just history repeating itself? Patience, the future will answer our concerns.
Hi all, I've had about 5 different Android powered phones beginning with the og Droid, to my current DroidX and Motorola Xoom. The screen kind of lags for both devices and it is kind of annoying. I use my wives iPad and iPhone every now and then, but I really prefer Android. There is no screen lag on either of her devices. Is there any new phone available that doesn't have this issue? I'm interested in the galaxy nexus, but the one I tested in the store had the same kind if lag... Although everything was running at one time, so I don't know if it was for that reason or what. I'm on Verizon if that helps. Thanks for any info!
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There's no perfect device with zero lag.
The way iOS and Android function is just different, there's a thread detailing how this works, don't have it on hand.
In Android land, the closest you will get to a totally lag free experience is the Galaxy S2. Too bad Verizon doesnt carry it...
.....you're talking a dx here. Terrible software.
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I agree that no phone is completely lag free, but custom roms/kernels make a huge difference, which is why we all post/lurk here For me, changing the rom and kernel on my Galaxy Nexus makes it into a totally different phone with significantly less lag. I think if you upgraded to a GN and tricked it out, you'd be much happier than you are with your DX.
The gs2 makes a valiant attempt. If you're stuck with android, that's your best option.
The galaxy s2 has less lag than the iphone 4s. You need to get the one x or SGS3 and I am sure they will not lag.( Ok not 100% true, becuase I can make any thing lag, iphone 4 and 4s, i7 PC with GTX 580 6GB of DRR3 1600mhz ram, PS3, Droid razr, SGS2 and my laptop.)
I have made them all lag by runing bone crushing app or content that made them yell nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I can tell you how I made the iphones lag, but really they are over rated.
Make a Lumia lag, try it. Android lags worse than any other OS regardless of hardware, you trade that level of user experience for infinite customization. For most, that's a fair trade-off.
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Make a Lumia lag, try it. Android lags worse than any other OS regardless of hardware, you trade that level of user experience for infinite customization. For most, that's a fair trade-off.
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Lumia lag....see later part of following review
http://thenokiablog.com/2011/11/09/nokia-lumia-800-review/
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Hmmm, lag? I thought that has to do with phone overloaded or using a poorly designed rom? I use the htc inc S, lags a little now, but not when it was stock, lag free. Thats y i await the official ics, htc says april
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SGS2 is still the most lag free android out there
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Like others said all devices lag but rare you see it in iOS or a windows phone. Its just Android lags the most and it doesn't matter how powerful the hardware gets it's still gonna lag until the OS is completely rewritten.
there cant be no lag, and dont compare android to iphone, iphone os is specificly built for the iphone, only 1 device. but android is just built for hundreds of devices, it would be just extremly time consuming and costly for each company to develop their own android for every phone they release. and thats why android lags.
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there cant be no lag, and dont compare android to iphone, iphone os is specificly built for the iphone, only 1 device. but android is just built for hundreds of devices, it would be just extremly time consuming and costly for each company to develop their own android for every phone they release. and thats why android lags.
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Also it is purely due to the fact that you can multi task with Android. The iPhone doesnt do true multitasking... The only time my GS2 lags is when I have multiple downloads in progress, streaming movies to my tv/xbox and playing games.
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What do you mean by screen lag exactly? Are you talking about touchscreen response time? If so, then there's still a while before we get to near 0ms delay on commercially available phones, although Microsoft have made a touchscreen display with a 1ms delay.
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What do you mean by screen lag exactly? Are you talking about touchscreen response time? If so, then there's still a while before we get to near 0ms delay on commercially available phones, although Microsoft have made a touchscreen display with a 1ms delay.
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No, I believe they are refering to when you scroll through things sometimes it lags. Like say sometimed you scroll between homescreens, sometimes it wont go smoothy like it is meant too.
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Still not possible even today. The lag on newer phones is worse than ancient phones like the S2. Unoptimised OS can't handle the higher resolution.
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Hi all, I've had about 5 different Android powered phones beginning with the og Droid, to my current DroidX and Motorola Xoom. The screen kind of lags for both devices and it is kind of annoying. I use my wives iPad and iPhone every now and then, but I really prefer Android. There is no screen lag on either of her devices. Is there any new phone available that doesn't have this issue? I'm interested in the galaxy nexus, but the one I tested in the store had the same kind if lag... Although everything was running at one time, so I don't know if it was for that reason or what. I'm on Verizon if that helps. Thanks for any info!
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I am talking about two thing: OS smoothness and OS input lag.
For years Android just hasn't come close to the smooth, and lag free feel of iOS. This video shows exactly what I mean about android input lag. iOS is far ahead.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOvQCPLkPt4
iPhone 5 : 55 ms
S4: 114 ms
HTC One: 121 ms
The iPhone 5 is over twice as responsive as the fastest android!
That video just shows the input lag difference. iOS is very noticably lower input lag than Android. Thats why i hate playing games on Android. Its a pain in the ass. Some of you might say you dont notice the lag, but its there, and i notice it.
Same thing happens with HDTVs. Casual gamers say their hdtvs dont have lag. But they really do, its just casuals dont notice it. Hardcore gamers easily can notice.
Now onto OS smoothness. For years Android has had laggy scrolling or jerky movement. iOS is smooth as butter, so smoooooth. I love it. Android was awful scrolling webpages. Project butter MUCH improved Android. But still, iOS is far smoother. Will Android ever be smooth as butter like iOS or is it impossible without a closed, optimized OS?
i believe when android 5.0 comes it will be equal but you have to remember that android has alot more customizable features wgen ios doesnt, those features like widgets and animations cause lag, thats just my thoughts about that
Honestly what I have found is that it depends on the quality of the app you are using and how quickly you move your fingers. If I am slowly scrolling through xda there is a ton of lag but it is a poorly written app and I'm moving slow. However scrolling on the home screen in Nova I notice no lag. I have used my note 2 next to the newest ipad as well as my note 10.1 and there are different situations that each has an advantage over all though I would give the edge to my note 2 over the two tablets.
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I've made sure it was same apps etc and moving as close to the same speed on each hand with each device as I could. Still the note 2 trumped the iPhone 5s in every scenario...camera, browsing, YouTube, Facebook, etc... IPhone lagged at least 3-5 second behind the note 2.
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To the OP, I don't think android will ever catch up because of the denial. See from the replies that some don't even believe there's a problem.
Any android first day out of the box will always be more problematic than an iPhone even after its a year old.
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I have never had an issue with a stock android out the box bought one apple product and had issues with it before iTunes could even update it. Will never go to apple. And there's no denial I've seen it first hand. Kinda hard to deny visual proof...duh.
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I've used an iPhone before I got my nexus 4. Definitely a bit more responsive and less lag. But then iPhones don't require as many resources to run its OS, because its much simpler
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I've used an iPhone before I got my nexus 4. Definitely a bit more responsive and less lag. But then iPhones don't require as many resources to run its OS, because its much simpler
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True, I just wonder if Google can match iOS in the near future, and what their solutions could be? Fragmentation is a major problem.
I tried out the Lumia 900 Windows phone for a week and even though I hated it and would rather have any android over it, the Windows os was much smoother in terms of lag.
Think about this, when iPhone users jailbreak, it's so they customize. It's not about performance.
Android users root so they can customize but also to a large degree make the thing run smoother. That in and of itself says something..
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And another curious matter, I got my iPhone from at&t and there was not nearly as much bloatware as the note 2 (also at&t,) had before I rooted and rommed. Why?
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Terms between apple & Verizon and android and Verizon
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vegetaflash said:
...I am talking about two thing: OS smoothness and OS input lag.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOvQCPLkPt4
iPhone 5 : 55 ms
S4: 114 ms
HTC One: 121 ms
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I saw the video posted on your link. There was no mention of the performance for the phones you mentioned. I am interested to know where did you get the performance figures mentioned.
To the OP:
This is a difficult location to get an unbiased answer. You're basically walking into Toyota and asking if Chevrolet vehicles are better. Of course you are going to find fanboys who defend their devices to the byte. That's a given.
But now, on to business. As someone mentioned earlier, Android uses way more resources than iOS. Ever noticed how smooth a rom moves after a fresh flash with nothing installed? There's a lot less "lag." I think that Android will continue he getting closer to the bar that has been set by Apple products. Am I saying that Apple is better? No. You're question has nothing to do with preference, and I shall not share mine. I am just sharing my unbiased opinion.
Also, I think that "lag" is the wrong word to use for your description in the first post. Delay is a much more appropriate and concise word in my opinion. I define lag as excessive delay. Stutters I consider to be lag, but 55ms vs 114ms is definitely delay, not lag. I'm just saying...lag tends to have a terrible meaning behind it, and much worse than the example that you provided.
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Yet an iPhone 4S with IOS7 seemed to lag more than my "budget" Optimus L9. Now call me a "fandroid". Now how about we ask if IOS will ever catch up to Android in features/options/freedom, then compare to see if Android lags more.
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It will be faster and responsive after installing a custom rom and kernel. That's why we are here. I'm not hating on iOS. I love it but I like the customizibility more on Android.
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Yet an iPhone 4S with IOS7 seemed to lag more than my "budget" Optimus L9. Now call me a "fandroid". Now how about we ask if IOS will ever catch up to Android in features/options/freedom, then compare to see if Android lags more.
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Exactly, my friend Dave has an iPhone 5s with iOS7 and I am running a samsung note II w/ cm 10.2 nightly 10/19 with plasma kernel running at 2.1GHz. For one show me an iPhone that can perform that fast and even running that fast my "stock" battery lasts me almost a fully 24 hrs and I'm a heavy user of games, web browsing, and media streaming. I tested my note side by side and the only thing it performed better was it booted up a second or two quicker. My opinions and facts have nothing to do with which I like better cause if it did I could go on and on, on the iOS's lack of customizability.
So yes like you just asked, when will iOS catch up to android?
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Exactly, my friend Dave has an iPhone 5s with iOS7 and I am running a samsung note II w/ cm 10.2 nightly 10/19 with plasma kernel running at 2.1GHz. For one show me an iPhone that can perform that fast and even running that fast my "stock" battery lasts me almost a fully 24 hrs and I'm a heavy user of games, web browsing, and media streaming. I tested my note side by side and the only thing it performed better was it booted up a second or two quicker. My opinions and facts have nothing to do with which I like better cause if it did I could go on and on, on the iOS's lack of customizability.
So yes like you just asked, when will iOS catch up to android?
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Edit: the iPhone performed better by a second or two with booting up.
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I am talking about two thing: OS smoothness and OS input lag.
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thats an exvellent question, one thats been asked a ton of times but left unanswered for yrs. i've asked that same question myself many a time on various forums only to be met with fanboy hate.
android possesses this innate lag and jitteriness that should have been resolved a long time ago. i read somewhere that its poss to make it lag free and smooth like it should. but to so would mean to dismantle the framework altogethe. and build it up from scratch. i dont kno if this is accurate or not. but i'd love to see android lag free finally.
one way that android is making the OS smooth is thru hardware, not software. wat i mean is, phone co.s like samsung are making faster processors amd packing more ram into phones, thus, making it appear smooth when in fact the OS is still latently snail slow. on a one to one ratio, iOS is FARRRR smoother and probly faster than android even with slower hardware cuz of its faster iOS.
i personally like android (not love it yet cuz of this issue) and prefer it to iOS. but if it werent for iphone's small screen and other bothersome kinks, i'd get one.
android has done a very poor job of making its OS smoother and faster. if it takes revamping the entire OS and starting it from the ground up, i think it'd be worth it. i really get disappointed when i slide my finger across the screen and still see lags, esp given the fact that its 2013 and the 1st gen iphone that debuted in 2007 is smoother and faster than android on any phone today.
Doesn't screen resolution matter when measuring lag/delay?
Cause no iPhone has had even a full 720p resolution screen to date.
I could honestly care less about lag/delay, for me choosing android was all about the customization.
Eg.
I've got no static,always present, status bar or virtual on screen navigation buttons or even any icons on my home screen, just widgets, not even an apps drawer icon, thanks to nova and pie pro everything is done via swipes or touching the left/right ends of screen to bring up pie(which also displays time/date/battery info) and thanks to PGM i don't even need to use any buttons to turn on the screen, just swipe up like BB10 or double tap like the LG G2.
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To the OP:
The first post seem to imply that the "lag" mentioned in the first post due to the OS alone. Now we all know that the OS alone is not the single factor in the overall performance of a computer. There are so many other factors to consider - CPU, GPU, RAM (and the type of memory chip), hardware bus size & speed, I/O and interfaces speed, screen display response and so many others.
The iPhone 5 has a 64-bit A7 CPU (first 64-bit chip for cellphones) as compared with all other cellphones with 32-bit CPUs, so there is no basis for your comparison 1st Post.
Was it the iPhone 5 that got the 64 bit? I was under the impression that it were the 5c/5s that were the first to get the 64.
Either way, Apple was the first.
I had the iPhone 4s. If it would have had a larger screen, I would still own it. Ironically I swapped for a note2 which has a.monster screen. Only problem is, IT'S NOT VISIBLE OUTDOOR EVEN ON A CLOUDY DAY.
iPhone 6, when it arrives...4.5 inch screen, retina display, super smooth performance. Sure it won't have all the customization that the latest android gadgets have. But I'm able to live without a phone that is not capable of doing the chicken dance with the swipe of three fingers.
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Seriously,i dont want to waste money on crap hardware(iphone).Android rules the smartphone world.
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if the iphone is such crap hardware, explain why the 1st gen iphone is smoother than today's android?
chan.sk said:
The first post seem to imply that the "lag" mentioned in the first post due to the OS alone. Now we all know that the OS alone is not the single factor in the overall performance of a computer. There are so many other factors to consider - CPU, GPU, RAM (and the type of memory chip), hardware bus size & speed, I/O and interfaces speed, screen display response and so many others.
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but it is due to the OS alone. if its due to hardware also like u said, then given todays hardware on android it should be superior to iphone. so wat are u talking abt? for ex, u got the note 3 with 3gb of ram and 2.3 ghz processor. its hardware beats the iphone big time. but the iphone is still faster and smoother that the note 3. so it MUST BE the OS.again, wat are u talking abt?