What is the perfect infinity? - Asus Transformer TF700

I feel as though there have been alot of subjective viewpoints on what is the perfect infinity. Alot of us have been returning our infinities because of raised screens, dust, light bleed, pixels etc...but the severity of these issues are subjective at best unless we all can see each others infinities.
So if you have a imperfect infinity post a PICTURES including tablet edges, back plate, screen on and off, boot screen ( to show light bleed), docking ports on tablet and any other areas of concern...
If you have a so called perfect tablet post PICTURES of these same areas so we can compare and see if these issues are as widespread and sever as we think.
I think this will help us all better understand what to look for if indeed we do end up having to exchange our infinities for a new one.
Thanks guys!
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pierrekid said:
I feel as though there have been alot of subjective viewpoints on what is the perfect infinity. Alot of us have been returning our infinities because of raised screens, dust, light bleed, pixels etc...but the severity of these issues are subjective at best unless we all can see each others infinities.
So if you have a imperfect infinity post a PICTURES including tablet edges, back plate, screen on and off, boot screen ( to show light bleed), docking ports on tablet and any other areas of concern...
If you have a so called perfect tablet post PICTURES of these same areas so we can compare and see if these issues are as widespread and sever as we think.
I think this will help us all better understand what to look for if indeed we do end up having to exchange our infinities for a new one.
Thanks guys!
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T
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A perfect Infinity is the one in my hand typing to you.

pierrekid said:
I feel as though there have been alot of subjective viewpoints on what is the perfect infinity. Alot of us have been returning our infinities because of raised screens, dust, light bleed, pixels etc...but the severity of these issues are subjective at best unless we all can see each others infinities.
So if you have a imperfect infinity post a PICTURES including tablet edges, back plate, screen on and off, boot screen ( to show light bleed), docking ports on tablet and any other areas of concern...
If you have a so called perfect tablet post PICTURES of these same areas so we can compare and see if these issues are as widespread and sever as we think.
I think this will help us all better understand what to look for if indeed we do end up having to exchange our infinities for a new one.
Thanks guys!
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I don't know if I call PERFECT as nothing is really perfect but after going through 3 units of Infinity, I can tell there are indeed difference in units built quality.
Personally, I had screen loosening for the first unit which I could definitely feel clicking everytime I held the device. The light bleed was there but really did not care much as I've never noticed it during daily use. The volume button seemed difficult to press felt as if it was a bit misaligned and I had to intentionally push slightly back and down.
Second unit had not screen lifting. The lightbleed were more evident. Now power button was like volume button on my previous unit.
I ended up returning infinity at this point because of not above issues but too many ANR/FC and wanted to give a try to Galaxy Note 10.1. As I missed so much about FHD, I decided to give one last shot on infinity.
This unit has NO light bleed, no screen lifting, all buttons are good. As for performance, I had rooted previous two units and applied d's build prop tweaks but did not use browser2ram or turned off bloatware. So this time, I did not do build prop but turned off bloatware and installed browser2ram. Also, I gave a try to boat browser for the first time. So far 1 week into this unit, I encountered only a handful of ANR and probably 1 or 2 of FC. These may even have been application dependent.
So yes. exterior QC issue really exist and from that regard I finally saw what's called perfect unit. But as far as the system performance goes, if I have had turned of bloatware and installed browser2ram on my previous unit probably would have been identical.

pierrekid said:
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So if you have a imperfect infinity post a PICTURES including tablet edges, back plate, screen on and off, boot screen ( to show light bleed), docking ports on tablet and any other areas of concern...
If you have a so called perfect tablet post PICTURES of these same areas so we can compare and see if these issues are as widespread and sever as we think.
I think this will help us all better understand what to look for if indeed we do end up having to exchange our infinities for a new one. (...)
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Excelent idea Pierrekid ... :good:
Im waiting my tablet from Adorama ...
Actually it would be very helpful for some of us.
Come on guys, please ... send the pics and comments of the hardware problems with your TF700t.

I'm interested too. About to buy one, and want to know what to look for - distinguishing marks, serial numbers, etc...

tuctuc said:
Excelent idea Pierrekid ... :good:
Im waiting my tablet from Adorama ...
Actually it would be very helpful for some of us.
Come on guys, please ... send the pics and comments of the hardware problems with your TF700t.
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Exactly, this will help people who are both getting the tablet for the first and for those who think they might have an "issue" with their current infinity
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For instance as you can see in the first couple picture i seem to have a slightly "raised" screen on the right side near the 'ASUS" logo, but its not very noticeable. Also my tablet came with two VERY minor scratches (pics 2 and 3) but i dont think they are significant enough to get a return, especially with some of the issues i have been hearing on the forum. The first is to the left of the upside down triangle and the second is near the power button. Besides this my tablet works fine. Now i would like to compare this to everyone else's tablet.
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I guess this is the "go to" thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811538

danger-rat said:
I guess this is the "go to" thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1811538
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would be... if they posted more pics about the issues. Only a couple people have.
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Related

So, who has -not- had problems with their Transformer?

I bought a Transformer yesterday, and I have some pretty severe backlight bleed. I'm either going to exchange or return it tonight.
I understand that people with problems with their device will be much more vocal than people who haven't run into any issues, but the number of posts I've seen talking about display or speaker issues is kind of worrying me, especially when I can go to the Thrive forum and see zero or near zero topics about hardware issues. Does anyone here have a Transformer with no problems? Or do they all have some issue and should I look at a different tablet?
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No issues whatsoever with mine, although I haven't actually went looking for light bleed. Certainly, I've not noticed it in normal use, which is the only place it would bother me.
raptir said:
I bought a Transformer yesterday, and I have some pretty severe backlight bleed. I'm either going to exchange or return it tonight.
I understand that people with problems with their device will be much more vocal than people who haven't run into any issues, but the number of posts I've seen talking about display or speaker issues is kind of worrying me, especially when I can go to the Thrive forum and see zero or near zero topics about hardware issues. Does anyone here have a Transformer with no problems? Or do they all have some issue and should I look at a different tablet?
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I have small light-bleed but it's only visible on a completely black screen with the brightness turned right up and the lights in the room switched off. That's not my normal use case so it doesn't bother me.
I have my Transformer since 2 months now. The hardware is perfect, there is no Lightbleed, no cracking, no dust under the screen and the speakers are o.k. One little problem is Honeycomb, it is not so good as it could be but its getting better with every update. Rooting was no problem and there are no issues when flashing other roms. Last week i bought the dock and there is also nothing wrong with it.
I am very happy with my new Transformer and dont whant to be without it anymore.
Asus Transformer: B5O
Dock: B6O
Sorry for my bad english i am from Austria
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i Have light bleed over the charging port..but that's insignificant ..but my volume rocker JUST got stuck like 20 min ago..already put my RMA with asus..out side of that..it's no issues
Haven't got any problems, though i haven't taken my transformer into a darkroom with a dark jpeg and turned the brightness up to test it!!!!!
A big believer in realism!
My wifi works perfectly
ADW EX works perfectly
Opera Browser works perfectly
But i also don't believe in new automatically equals better, so i haven't installed 3.2.
Wouldn't no about browser typing lag, as i'm the slowest freakin typist ever
I've had no issues with my tablet.
I have just RMAd the dock, as it was a B50 and had the power drain issue, but the tablet on it's own has been great.
very minimal light bleed, but nothing major.
Out of curiosity, hows the ROM dev over with the Thrive? Im wondering if there is more development over there than there is with the TF..
And if so, if having several Roms/mods to play with, keep user more content; So much so, that they overlook minor details..
Maybe were just bored over here in TF world
I have a b60 transformer and keyboard dock and I am very happy with all. I had a small spec of plastic in the screen, flicked screen with my finger and now it has gone and never returned.
Not seen any light bleed and have no problems with build quality.
I only had the creak before, until I learned to look for the light bleed in the dark. It's not that bad, but it feels horrible when you look for it,
Certainly not me ;-) After 5 weeks trying to find a tablet and dock to actually purchase, I bought the only one I could find - a 32 GB version. Why the heck I didn't just give up and wait for the next generation, I'll never know.
Significant light bleed but that doesn't really bother me. But then I discovered the dock battery draining issue with my turned off tablet and that really started to bother me. Then the volume up key on the tablet stopped working and that kind of annoyed me. Then the charger stopped charging both the dock and the tablet and that was end of my using it altogether ... except that somehow the charger started working again on the tablet (and not the dock) so I could use it again. But now it's stopped charging the tablet once again.
I know I have to RMA this ****. Still have to find the receipts and packaging. Maybe I can ship it along with my Asus P8P67 Deluxe motherboard which never worked right from day 1 and has caused me endless grief. Yeah, Asus is pretty much my least favourite company right now...
I love my transformer.
There was some light bleeding at the bottom by the buttons but for some reason the other day it vanished. I have installed the Asus case that has the tapered edge and flap. Maybe the pressure is fixing it.
That with Prime 1.6, the thing is a beast. I'm out of town for work over the next 2 weeks. No reboots or weirdness. I have my PC laptop and my LG G2x setup with wifi sharing so my TF is grabbing internet from one of those devices.
It just works so good I'm afraid to flash it to a 3.2 rom.
I found thumb keyboard better over SwiftKey X and I'm flying. The Office suite allows me to check all my work related documents on the go and has been a lifesaver.
Asus Transformer 3.1 pwnd
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Minor issues...
I have a little bit of light bleed, but it's only noticeable on black backgrounds, with dim ambient light, at certain angles. The speakers aren't as loud as I'd like, but I don't see how speakers that small could be louder. Overall I'm very pleased with mine, especially considering it's what, half as thick as the Thrive?
Not half as thick, but it does feel a lot thinner. It's because Asus designed the tablet to slant from thick (in the center) to thin (in the edge). It's so pretty .
I have problems with the tf, and not only with one unit, because now I am using the third unit (replaced the two previous).
The first was countinually rebooting when suspended (may be software, but used a nandroid of it with the second and no problem)
The second has light bleed and the upper part of the touch screen was bad.
With the third unit has sound balance problem, but I can live with it.
Conclusion
The quality control is bad, but I like this tablet.
Sorry for my english
No issues, I haven't really looked to see if I could find light bleed, but I love this thing
on my second tf
my first one quit charging after 4 days. No keyboard dock.
The one I have now has more light bleed than my first one. That one was a B60, current one is a B50.
No issues to report, although I have not checked on the battery drain issue with the dock (B5O). Still I really like this tablet and use it for work.
No problem here. Running Prime 1.7
Just checked for light leak. took a picture in a black room with brightness all the way up and on the left lower side i noticed it.
been mashing the power and volume buttons all day to see if i can break it(still within 30 days). No issues yet.
b60 purchased last week

[Q] Build Quality

I have been reading reviews on Best Buy and Amazon, and the biggest complaint seems to be the build quality of this tablet. I was wondering what everyone's experience with it is. Does the device feel as flimsy and plasticky as I've been hearing? Thanks for any responses!
Depends on if you get a good one or bad one. Most people with a flimsy-feeling device end up having problems.
As for my experience with build quality, I'm on my 3rd TF300. The first one had a dead pixel and some light bleed but was otherwise perfect, and the second one felt a little flimsy; it ended up having a bad touscreen. So far, number 3 is flawless after a week. *knocks on wood*
Mine seems fine.The plastic is sturdy and I have no complaints. there is a tiny bit of lightbleed in the lower left corner of mine but its so small that I never notice it.
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i get a little light bleed but i never notice its that small and mine feels really sturdy and for me the thickness is just right so it dont cut int your hands
See my earlier post on the subject.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26147164
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Took back my first one. Had the normal amount of light bleed, but one spot was exceedingly bright compared to the rest of the screen, very irritating. It also needed the case snapped back into place in a few places around the outside edges.
The second one had light bleed, but only visible in very dark rooms. No other problems.
EndlessDissent said:
Depends on if you get a good one or bad one. Most people with a flimsy-feeling device end up having problems.
As for my experience with build quality, I'm on my 3rd TF300. The first one had a dead pixel and some light bleed but was otherwise perfect, and the second one felt a little flimsy; it ended up having a bad touscreen. So far, number 3 is flawless after a week. *knocks on wood*
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Not sure if I have a bad touchscreen or not but in the browser when pressing links or selecting them it gets them wrong a lot? More so in Chrome so far.
The tablet is laggy and freezes in the browser at times as well? Anyone else had this?
mark.m.moran said:
Not sure if I have a bad touchscreen or not but in the browser when pressing links or selecting them it gets them wrong a lot? More so in Chrome so far.
The tablet is laggy and freezes in the browser at times as well? Anyone else had this?
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Try a restore? I want one of these, but the thing holding me back is the "hardend" glass. I wonder if it is actually strong and somewhat compares to gorrilla.
Thanks so much for your input guys! After reading your comments, I'm definitely going to get one! Now I can't wait until Wednesday when I get paid!
i honestly cant fault this tab mate and if you root and overclock it its mind numbingly fast all games worksoooo good and browsing is great aswell
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I have owned a dozen or more tablets and so far I am enjoying this one very much. Of course plastic is plastic and can't compare to the metal versions, but unless you are using it to play ping pong, it is just fine. The textured back gives it a different feel than most, hides the fingerprints and definately had character. As far as performance, it is very nice. It is the smoothest running tablet I have had next to my Galaxy Tab 10.1. The speed with the Quad Core is noticeable and I have attained Quadrant scores of 5400 compared to my overclocked Galaxy at 3800. Well worth the money.

Screen Creak

Got the Infinity almost a week now. The only thing that still annoys me the most is the screen creaking a bit when squeezed around the vicinity above the speaker. This is what happens when I hold it with my right hand in landscape position. When I let go, I can hear a little pop. I figure with a case, I probably won't hear it but the question in my mind is what if the whole screen starts to do that with time. I called the store for an exchange but they are out of stock and don’t know when they will get more. I like the tablet (besides the light bleed like other people experience) and don’t want nor have any reason to return.
Can someone advice if this is typical (not really a normal thing) and life will go on?
Thank you in advance.
I have the same thing but it doesn't pop,just moves. It seems its common and probably due to the speaker being there (design flaw) IMO.
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Normal, and won;t break your device, especially when you take good care of it, which you seem to do (case use). Just keep this one, and enjoy it!
Thank you all for the posts. I got my son the Asus slider and he loves it. I purchased this mainly as an entertainment device for travelling oversea (some flights are really long).
Again, thank you very much.

Build quality question

Just a quick question for other TF700 owners. I originally bought a Prime and had the bad wifi issues, exchanged it for another with no improvement so I held out for the Infinity. I now have my Infinity and the screen is loose on the right hand side about 2/3 of the way down. If you press it you can feel the give and hear a popping sound. I'm just curious if this is an isolated incident or if a loose screen an issue with the Infinity. I love the tablet and honestly have no clue what I would get instead but, for $500 I expect better build quality.
orangeirwin said:
Just a quick question for other TF700 owners. I originally bought a Prime and had the bad wifi issues, exchanged it for another with no improvement so I held out for the Infinity. I now have my Infinity and the screen is loose on the right hand side about 2/3 of the way down. If you press it you can feel the give and hear a popping sound. I'm just curious if this is an isolated incident or if a loose screen an issue with the Infinity. I love the tablet and honestly have no clue what I would get instead but, for $500 I expect better build quality.
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I have this issue too. Both the right hand side and left hand side, and a few additional places (7 areas in total). When I closed pad on the dock station a crack formed between one of these two weak areas where screen is loose, and all points to glass cracking exactly because the strains were not supported by chassis. And I closed it the same way I closed it a few other times before (only owned it for about a month).
If you need more description in pictures, there's a thread about defects (it lists clicking/loose screen as one of defects by the way) in this same forum.
I hope that my crack is just an isolated case. This is only my personal opinion based on experience I had, but I would keep bothering the wherever you got your tablet until they give you one without loose screen.
orangeirwin said:
Just a quick question for other TF700 owners. I originally bought a Prime and had the bad wifi issues, exchanged it for another with no improvement so I held out for the Infinity. I now have my Infinity and the screen is loose on the right hand side about 2/3 of the way down. If you press it you can feel the give and hear a popping sound. I'm just curious if this is an isolated incident or if a loose screen an issue with the Infinity. I love the tablet and honestly have no clue what I would get instead but, for $500 I expect better build quality.
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Mines clicking in the exact same spot you described. Doesn't seem to be getting worse, and if it doesn't I don't think it will bother me that much. But still, for the money we're paying its inexcusable.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch.
Same clicking above the microSD slot and on the opposite side -> same location. But it does not really bother me.
Mine clicks a little right above the dock port on the bottom.
I'm not considering it a problem at this point.
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I have this issue too. Both the right hand side and left hand side, and a few additional places (7 areas in total). When I closed pad on the dock station a crack formed between one of these two weak areas where screen is loose, and all points to glass cracking exactly because the strains were not supported by chassis. And I closed it the same way I closed it a few other times before (only owned it for about a month).
If you need more description in pictures, there's a thread about defects (it lists clicking/loose screen as one of defects by the way) in this same forum.
I hope that my crack is just an isolated case. This is only my personal opinion based on experience I had, but I would keep bothering the wherever you got your tablet until they give you one without loose screen.
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In the Nexus 7 forum there were a number of complaints about the screen lifting, and most were found to be caused by screws that were over tightened below the areas of lift. The Nexus 7 back is easy to remove, and I wouldn't suggest doing this with the TF700, but they are both recent ASUS devices and there seems to be a possibility they could suffer from the same issue. By the way. it turns out that only a small % of Nexus 7 owners experienced screen lift, but some had multiple devices with this issue. Mine is flawless, as are the vast majority. I think that must be true for the TF700 as well. Mine is perfect, too.
Just checked. Mine has a VERY slight, not quite popping, but like a small"tic" when pressed by SD slot. Had to listen really close to hear it. My prime was nothing but problems, Wi-Fi weak, GPS totally worthless, and camera was unacceptably bad, grainy quality pics.
My Infinity is everything prime was not. Extremely pleased with it. Only problem I've noticed is I/O lag. And hopefully, that will be fixed with jelly bean.
One other thing, mine WOULD NOT OTA update. Had to d load to micro card.
Other than that, I LOVE MY INFINITY!
I don't see any issues with the building quality. I have not struggled to find flaws . my only complaint is lag and performance. Hopefully these are fixable sw issues that the jb update will fix or someone will create a good ROM to unleash this tablet.
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Build quality for mine is terrific. No complaints at all at this point.
Sitting in the airport lounge right now where my TF201 didn't get a WiFi signal. TF700 has -50dB at 54Mbps.
Build quality and performance are exactly what I would expect for a premium priced tablet.
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My first one was perfect physically, but I had to return it. My second one has the popping on the left and there's noticeable give on the bottom, right above the left keyboard dock slot (that is, you can push the screen into the casing). I'm guessing its not a big deal since there are others who have reported similar things.
I have the popping sound when applying pressure to the display on the right side, kind of where the speaker sits. I used to have a slight bulge / screen seperation above the microSD slot, but that completely went away after I left my Infinity lieing in the sun for a few hours (not on purpose, I just forgot about it and that thing got HOT).
I hope this is an isolated case (though my "popping" wasn't so severe, I didn't pay attention to it either!), but just so you know, this is what happened when I normally (no extra force) closed it with my dock station.
I initially ignored the problem too. So be careful when handling it around dock station (if I'm right, it's only bending which is created by dock station that can do this, simply holding it in hand or closing dock station by holding it in middle will not cause any cracks or damage).

Little bit more give in upper left corner of screen.

Are all infinitys like that? Mine feels a bit more squishy at the top of the left edge of the panel in landscape. Nothing major, no clicking or anything. There just seems to be a bit more give in the area. Strange thing is, the Prime I traded in to get the infinity had the same issue in the exact same spot. Anyone else notice this on their tablet. It's not preventing me from enjoying me tablet and doesn't boether me, just wondering if it's normal.
My infinity has a little more give on the left side of the screen. It's quite annoying actually. When I spend several hundred euros for a product I expect it to have good build quality. Thinking of trading the unit, but I don't think my retailer will allow me to do so.
I agree but it really isn't something you feel unless intentionally pushing that spot pretty firmly. I've got a feeling it may have something to do with all the jacks and ports on the left side of the tablet. Maybe it's the same for everyone.
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I've got a feeling it may have something to do with all the jacks and ports on the left side of the tablet.
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You're probably right. While I notice mine has some flex in six places - center of each side and two top and bottom, one on either side of the rear camera and docking connector - which I assume to be the points between the mounting clips, the worst place is right next to the microSD slot.
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Yes I think mine is worse too near the sd slot. I wonder if retailers will accept it as RMA or something, but then again I am not sure if I want to lose my tablet for a few days over such a minor issue.
I suggest to let the issue go if it is your only issue. I'm totally ok with it. I'm on my 3rd infinity, 1st one had a lot of light bleed, 2nd one had a noisy vibrator which was really annoying, 3rd one has no bleed and no other issue other than this screen flex on one side. Even if playing a driving gyroscope game I wouldn't feel the flex unless I were gripping very tightly. The worst part about it is that I know it's there, otherwise it doesn't affect my experience with the tablet. Just curious as to whether it's normal or common, seems it may be.

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