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Screen damaged...Need to flash ATT SPL!!

I flashed the HTC factory rom a few weeks back, and now (not because of the flashing) my screen is broken. I think I sweat on it and it has caused the connectors to be intermitent. The water damage sticker is luckily still white I have alreay flashed the ATT stock back onto the unit, but without screen viewability, I can't run KAIS-SPL. You can here the ATT swoosh sounds on startup. The screen works about 5% of the time, so do I chance sending it back with HardSPL still on it as they might not be able to verify. The 5% chance scares me. Is it possible to put ATT SPL without having the screen work? Lastly, is there a command line interface to remotely activate KAIS-SPL?
Thanks,
brux2dc
FYI. This unit is still within the 30 days, but i am sure they will check it before issuing a credit.

get it replaced. try in store first since you're within ur 30 days.
if you need to go through warr exchange, have no fear. ive sent back 6 kaisers lol
one had a chunk missing outta the corner. another, the pixels went green and wack. another had a replaced screen and that screen had an "oil" spot and the hinge was all loose. no fees.
the only thing i would worry about is them replacing the screen and seeing salt from your sweat. even water leaves a green residue at times on electronics.
oh, and if you dont wanna do that, you can grab a refurb from ATT or another seller for cheap. all my refurbs were lnib

Yeah, I bought mine over the internet through the FAN site. Unfortunately It would be easy to show the clerk in a store how messed up this phone is. I"ll just send it without worrying about the SPL. I haven't seen the screen all day, so I guess it is FUBAR!
6 phones? Is this phone really that crappy quality wise? Should I get a different phone. Although this phone has everything I could want in a phone (for the time being )
Thanks

brux2dc said:
Yeah, I bought mine over the internet through the FAN site. Unfortunately It would be easy to show the clerk in a store how messed up this phone is. I"ll just send it without worrying about the SPL. I haven't seen the screen all day, so I guess it is FUBAR!
6 phones? Is this phone really that crappy quality wise? Should I get a different phone. Although this phone has everything I could want in a phone (for the time being )
Thanks
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This phone is NOT CRAPPY (except the video DRIVERS).
It actually depends on people's use. I personally keep my phones away from all the hazards and on cases (leather, silicone...) If anything happens to it its just BADLUCK.
My opinion is If you are happy with your phone then do not get a different one.

This would work, if you could install it...
There is a program that might help you, SOTI pocket controller pro. It will let you control your phone from the computer... the only problem is installing it. You would need to be able to hit the check box. It might be possible to have it installed automatically with UC, but another, more knowledgeable member would need to give advice for this one.
If you do get the program on your phone, you should be able to revert it to factory. As another post already said, you may be fine anyway as I doubt a new phone under warranty will be heavily scrutinized by ATT.

yi3o8 said:
There is a program that might help you, SOTI pocket controller pro. It will let you control your phone from the computer... the only problem is installing it. You would need to be able to hit the check box. It might be possible to have it installed automatically with UC, but another, more knowledgeable member would need to give advice for this one.
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this is false, when i freshly flash a new device and it dont have soti installed then i just open soti on the computer and hit connect. It then installs the cab with no prompts. SOTI would work very well in this instance!

wow 6 phones, and here i'm getting mad about 4, i'm still waiting for att to send me one that works, i guess my 4 isn't that bad at all.
and at op sogun is correct, SOTI works great used it to take the contacts off my hermes when the screen broke. but i took that phone apart to the mother board and did it that way cause i couldn't remember how to put it back together

thanks for the help.
I'll look into SOTI.

brux2dc said:
thanks for the help.
I'll look into SOTI.
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Questions

So I got my XT720 a few days ago and am loving it. Two things though:
1) I've had to do a quick reset (take out battery) about 4-5 times in the same amount of days. What happens is sometimes the screen will go blank (or when I press the on button all that will happen is the 4 buttons at bottom of phone will light up). Screen/phone becomes unresponsive and only way to get back to normal is to take out battery. I'm pretty sure that every time this has happened has been right (or shortly) after me downloading something on my phone (i.e. putting on a new wallpaper, or a song). Anyone have this happen to them?
2) I don't want to root or put on Dexter's ROM just yet. The reason for this is because a) I just got my phone and I don't want to void the warranty until I know everything works with no issues b) I'd rather wait for the complete/fully polished version of the ROM - I'm in no hurry right now, this phone is a big big upgrade from my previous phone even without 2.2.
Anyways, the point is, I'm pretty sure my phone isn't running with the 720MHz update right now and is running at 550. I want to put on that update to make my phone faster while I wait to root. However, whenever I go to - about phone - check for system updates - and click on that, it always tells me "Server unavailable. Try again later.". Been trying for the past few days and no luck. How can I get the 720MHz update (without rooting - at this point)?
Thanks

If the screen doesn't come on when you turn on the phone, you may have a defective one. My first XT720 was a dud right out of the box. I had to take it back to the Cincinnati Bell store and get it exchanged. I've heard of other people having similar experiences with the phone not turning on. Take it back. If they give you any crap about it, just tell them that the Motorola tech from their forums told you to take it back. This adds a bit of validity to the problem and may make it an easier transaction.

Nah, it works fine for the most part. Turns on and off and runs just fine normally. But my issue is I've just had it basically freeze up 4-5 times in the past week (noticing a possible connection to me downloading things).

I would think your phone is running at 720mhz. I believe the European / Asian versions were originally 550mhz & had an ota udate to the 720 level. You could download Android System Info or Elixer to check it out though.
I would also agree with reverendkjr, it the phone is acting funky take it back & get a replacement.

The XT720 from Wind is 720mhz with stock firmware, the only 550mhz was Korean version AFAIK, maybe some Euro versions.
As for the screen, you may want to try doing a factory reset on your phone. If it persists after that take it back to Wind for a replacement, had my wife's XT720 replaced due to a microphone problem.

R-D said:
The XT720 from Wind is 720mhz with stock firmware, the only 550mhz was Korean version AFAIK, maybe some Euro versions.
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Oh? I figured it might be at 550 since going back to homescreen - it reloads pretty often (thought 720 wouldn't do that), though it does run snappy enough in all other areas.
As for the screen, you may want to try doing a factory reset on your phone. If it persists after that take it back to Wind for a replacement, had my wife's XT720 replaced due to a microphone problem.
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Be a bit of a pain to factory reset at this point. The problem isn't terribly disruptive at this point. Doesn't happen often enough to really bother me and restarting is quick. If it does continue and become frustrating I may consider factory reset. I just was wondering if anyone else experienced this.
WIND would give me a replacement at any time (within the year) if I told them about this issue? (Kind of hard to prove since it happens at it's own whim. Don't want to seek a replacement just yet anyways - not unless it continues and is an annoyance)

Just put a call into support so they have a record of the problems, explain to them you cant reproduce the problem, but it is a brand new phone and should not be doing this regardless.
They will suggest the reset to see if the issue persists, but you can decline at this time and at least get the issue logged so you have a better chance of replacement in the future.
Keep in mind though, within 14 days they will replace with a new phone, beyond that you may get a used one.

I can't imagine just ignoring a problem with a new phone like that. Especially since you have the ability to have it replaced for free.
Heck, I took a phone back once because it had ONE dead pixel on the screen. When the girl looked at me and said "Really?" I said "Hell yes, I just bought this damn thing and I want it to be PERFECT!"

you need to setup the APN to connect to 3G to get your 720 upgrade from OTA (if purchased unlocked Euro or Asia models)
if it's a Wind XT720 it should already be on 720

reverendkjr said:
I can't imagine just ignoring a problem with a new phone like that. Especially since you have the ability to have it replaced for free.
Heck, I took a phone back once because it had ONE dead pixel on the screen. When the girl looked at me and said "Really?" I said "Hell yes, I just bought this damn thing and I want it to be PERFECT!"
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Yeah, I suppose that's true. If it happens again I'll look into getting it replaced.
Thanks for the help guys.

my XT711 has done the "blank screen a few times also and I have to remove the battery to reset it. Very strange thing, but I have had the phone for only a few days so im gonna see what its gonna do first cause sending it back to china is a pain in th butt.

Really unhappy with HTC Repair techs' conclusion

Just received my repaired MT4GS about an hour again, and I am just spitting nails about the absolute failure to communicate by the HTC Repair techs. Yes, this is a rant and a vent. You can move on to other posts if you don't want to read my growling and hissing.
I thought that the techs would make their diagnosis on the actual hardware malfunction of my phone (in a nutshell, I had weird condensation that occurred out of the blue, no exposure to moisture on my part, and then the display failed after four days of flickering), but no, their conclusion was that I had "the wrong software" on my phone. And for this they charged $185 for a new mainboard.
Yes, the phone was rooted/s-off with the most recent CWM, but once the display went bye-bye, I couldn't do much about it. And the state of the software did not cause the display failure! To top this off, when I asked--twice!--through the online e-mail form for a clarification of how they came to this conclusion, I never received an e-mail reply. I paid for the repair because I need my phone, and find out today that the morons called the cell number and left a message! Not my home phone, not via e-mail--the effin' cell number! For the phone they had in their hands! So an hour ago, I listened to this message, which I could barely hear with the volume maxed, and just about threw my phone across the room when the tech got to the "wrong software" part.
The new mainboard gives the phone a new serial number and new IMEI number, so it's like a new phone, but the trackpad button is weirdly angled up and the power button is a little floppy. And to add insult to injury, hboot is now 1.44.0013 and the software at version 1.55.531.3, so I have to figure out how to root with the stupid update, so I can get CWM back and restore from my last Nandroid backup.
So...pissed...off. Stupid, stupid HTC techs! Wrong software my a$$.
Okay. Rant finished. I'm off to find the rooting method for 1.55.531.3.
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Man, that sucks however it is commonly know that rooting voids your warranty If they find out. It still sucks though.
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Major suckage...yep
My understanding was that gaining root/s-off only voided the warranty if the damage was directly caused by the unlocked state--e.g. if I had loaded a ROM that overclocked the CPU and caused damage to the chip. This wasn't the case, I was still running stock ROM, and the display failure occurred over a period of five days in a very strange fashion. I guess it was hoping too much of these individuals to exercise some Sherlockian deduction and verify the details I included in the letter shipped with my phone.
At any rate, my growliest complaint by far is the failure of the tech(s) to communicate with me regarding the quotation for repair. I can't help but feel that a discussion may have changed that tech's mind. At the very least, it would have allowed me to make my case instead of the tech coming to, what I view as, a rather knee-jerk diagnosis.
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KingCheetah

That sucks so bad. Now I will definitely be sure to unroot, and put the stock rom back on and s-on if I need to send it in for warranty repair. Ugg. I had heard of lots of people sending their phones in while rooted, with no problem, Thanks for warning the rest of us that it isn't always the case.

Aside from unnecessarily changing your phone's mainboard, what did they do to get the touchscreen working? Sounds like it was an easy fix to me but had to find a way to justify the $185
sent from a Nokia 3210

I have no clue how replacing the mainboard addressed the display failure, since there was an utter lack of communication from the HTC techs (as per my initial growlings). I did explain in the letter shipped w/ my phone that it was operating normally right up until the screen died; and even then appeared to boot okay, even if the response wasn't visible.
Suffice to say the repair was successful, but I doubt I'll even get an answer to the logic (or illogic) behind the techs' repair diagnosis.
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KingCheetah

Possible to flash radio / rom / anything with broken USB?

After I got my skyrocket, many of my friends and family also decided on the skyrocket Well, now it's up to me to make sure they're all in working order.
So one of my family members left her skyrocket in a bag of water for a while while she was at the beach, and it was completely unresponsive. I fully disassembled it (not my first time), dried out the majority of the water, then left the phone in rice for a few days. The good news is, the phone boots up and seems to work. The battery still works and it charges over USB.
The bad news is, the cellular radio does not work, IMEI comes up as unknown, bluetooth mac is "unavailable", front facing camera is also unresponsive. Really bad news: data/adb over usb does not register at all. A few more days in rice haven't helped.
The phone is completely stock. My first thought was that flashing a new radio might reset the cellular somehow, but not having cwm/odin makes that impossible. I can't seem to get the phone into download mode either because of the USB problem.
One thing that DOES work is the stock recovery. I can tell it to flash the official ATT ICS build, which contains a radio!
However when I try flashing it says.. "E: Short write of /tmp/sideload/package.zip (No space left on device) Installation aborted". Other zips "failed to verify whole-file signature"
Any ideas? My next step will be buying a used skyrocket with a cracked screen, and transplanting the working screen from this unit...
Tom

First off, please use the Q&A section for, you know, questions and answers. Don't create a new thread; I'm going to ask the mods to move this one instead.
Second, your issue is that the hardware radio is dead. The stock ROM only has a software radio included. To put it a different way, the stock ROM includes programming that tells the cell radio what to do. It can't fix the cell radio if it's broken, though. Unfortunately, based on the amount of damage you've got there, I'd say your phone is pretty much toast.
If you're completely stock, try to warranty it out. Just be up front with Sammy about what happened (because, in this instance, they will figure it out if you make up a story or play dumb), and the worst thing they can say is no. You might get a sympathetic rep who'll help you out. If they won't take it, you've already got your backup plan in the working SR.

T.J. Bender said:
First off, please use the Q&A section for, you know, questions and answers. Don't create a new thread; I'm going to ask the mods to move this one instead.
Second, your issue is that the hardware radio is dead. The stock ROM only has a software radio included. To put it a different way, the stock ROM includes programming that tells the cell radio what to do. It can't fix the cell radio if it's broken, though. Unfortunately, based on the amount of damage you've got there, I'd say your phone is pretty much toast.
If you're completely stock, try to warranty it out. Just be up front with Sammy about what happened (because, in this instance, they will figure it out if you make up a story or play dumb), and the worst thing they can say is no. You might get a sympathetic rep who'll help you out. If they won't take it, you've already got your backup plan in the working SR.
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Meant to post this in Q&A, woops. Too many xda tabs open trying to figure this out. Sorry about that
I do know the difference between the hardware/software radios... My thought was that while the phone was turned on and submerged, the software radio could have become corrupt... A long shot perhaps
I'll try contacting samsung, but somehow I doubt they'll cover it. Sidenote, do you really think they have a more sophisticated way to check for water damage than the internal water-damage indicator sticker?
The question still stands though, if anyone is interested. Even without a cell radio, I'd like to be able to root it for other purposes
Thanks for the advice
Tom

dutchthomas said:
Meant to post this in Q&A, woops. Too many xda tabs open trying to figure this out. Sorry about that
I do know the difference between the hardware/software radios... My thought was that while the phone was turned on and submerged, the software radio could have become corrupt... A long shot perhaps
I'll try contacting samsung, but somehow I doubt they'll cover it. Sidenote, do you really think they have a more sophisticated way to check for water damage than the internal water-damage indicator sticker?
The question still stands though, if anyone is interested. Even without a cell radio, I'd like to be able to root it for other purposes
Thanks for the advice
Tom
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Yeah, based on the amount of things going wrong, it's hardware. If the software radio was corrupt, it would be because the internal storage had been corrupted, and your phone likely would not boot.
And yes, they can find water damage beyond the sticker. They can see corrosion plain as day when they open it up and look at the internals.
You can root it without USB working. Is your wifi working? If so, download GooManager off the market, then follow the instructions in the TWRP thread to get TWRP on your phone. Download a custom ROM to your PC, then transfer it to your external SD using an adapter/card reader so you can place it on the card directly (instead of going through the USB port). Use TWRP to flash the pre-rooted ROM onto your phone and viola. Unless there's a pre-rooted stock out there (and I don't think there is for SR), a custom ROM is the only way I can think of to do it.
Be advised, though, that because of the amount of damage done to your phone's internals, there's a better-than-normal chance that something won't work and you'll brick. I'm not responsible for your decisions or for the brick if that happens.
Long story short, just get a replacement SR.

Same thing happened to my girls Atrix. She gave it a nice bath in Green Tea. After shutting it down and pulling it apart I gave it the rice treatment for 48 hours. Booted but returned a radio error. Her USB port was working so I was able to root it and install a few custom ROMs on it. No change. So I would bet you actually fried the chip. Call Sammi and get a quote to cover the repair which will be a new mobo. They pay shipping both ways and are usually pretty cheap.

hechoen said:
Same thing happened to my girls Atrix. She gave it a nice bath in Green Tea. After shutting it down and pulling it apart I gave it the rice treatment for 48 hours. Booted but returned a radio error. Her USB port was working so I was able to root it and install a few custom ROMs on it. No change. So I would bet you actually fried the chip. Call Sammi and get a quote to cover the repair which will be a new mobo. They pay shipping both ways and are usually pretty cheap.
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Heh, this is my mother's phone actually. First she ripped the screen ribbon cable on a nokia E75. Then she smashed her Atrix's screen, tried to fix it herself with a new screen, and managed to rip part of a ribbon cable... so it no longer has a working touch digitizer. Now she left her skyrocket in a bag of water. The girlfriend managed to crack her skyrocket's screen, which I replaced... I've also had to fix 2x nokia N95's, an N97, and a bunch of water damaged dumb phones over the years...
FWIW, the skyrocket seems to have the best repairability / internal layout of any of the phones I've messed with
The cracked screen skyrockets on ebay seem to be going for more than I thought, so I'll be giving sammy a call for sure

HTC for life?, One X has sent me packing.

I've always had an HTC phone everything from the EVO shift (yee yeah), to the Inspire HD, then got a Vivid, now I'm using this One X AT&T. I've been spoiled by Sense, I can't imagine having to use a Samsung. It's nice, fast yada yada but geeez its bubbly icons kill it for me.
This OneX I can't understand why the All the softkeys or home keys have been changed. The back key is for left hand people, Why does the recent apps button even exist and then put it in the most convenient place? No battery? What I mean to say is no extra battery. Ive always bought an extra battery so that if I don't have a plug-in or charger I got it covered.
Can someone give me any reason why the charge port is on the side?
No SD storage... This is probably the main reason Im done with HTC. A factory reset from the bootloader erases everything on your phone including backups. EVERYTHING ON YOUR PHONE! Not the recovery though...
Is there any way of securing the data so this never happens?
Now my camera has went out. No camera.. Ive tried everything, I even called HTC support they tried and they say "need new hardware". I really hate to tear into this phone.
I never write these vent posts.. I would fight someone lastweek if they talked trash about HTC phones. Maybe I got lemon, it's just One thing after another.
Although it seems like I'm trashing this phone I really love it. I just can't store anything important on it or take pictures, video.. I've read so many posts on replacing the camera but I just hate to tear into it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I never knew how important it was..
No one can say anything bad about the screen on the One X. It's amazing..
Sound is great
Smooth running phone too..
I'm scared to spend money on another HTC product. Maybe there is a way to try out a phone for a couple days that would be great.
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You have the right to voice your opinion but this isn't really the place to do it. You're just knocking the phone. It's not a perfect phone, but it's really good once you get it rooted and all that. Stay respectful, everyone!
Sent from my evita

I'm wondering why you bought it on the first place.
Almost all of your complaints are hardware ones that you know about before buying the phone?
Personally I don't mind the hardware at all. External SD would be nice but not a big deal. And I like right side unlock buttons.
As far as the camera I think it was just bad luck or damage. Haven't heard about it happening much at all.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

My niggles:
They put pogo contacts on the phone... but couldn't be bothered to make anything that actually uses them.
9.xGB of storage when I was expecting the typical 14.xGB for a phone advertised with 16GB.
HUGE pain to get root early on, though partially att's fault.
The phone loses signal if I leave it face up. (really gotta find time to get that fixed...)
Other than that, it's been an awesome phone.

I think HTC could've improved more in the music department and camera, but I agree with RollTribe. It's not a perfect phone, and there will never be a perfect phone imo. For me it was the software and hardware (GPS works!!) that made me stay.
Overall I would consider the XL solid. I'm going to look past the HTC One, though, and wait for the next generation.
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I think the back button is in a perfect spot for right handed people, it is right in reach of my thumb when held in my right hand.
You complain about the recent app button, but I don't follow your complaint. It exists so you can multitask, you say it is in a convenient spot and I agree, easily accessed by the right thumb when held right handed.
Extra battery? I have never found myself wanting to buy extra batteries for any phone ever. I just charge mine when required. This phone lasts a full day easy if you are not playing games on it. I am a heavy phone user with maybe 30-50 calls every work day, sync an ics calendar every hour, use calendar, contacts, browser and email a whole bunch. The phone lasts the entire day. These days with my car dock I can play games all day without issue
Charge port on the side makes for easy landscape car docking, perfect for GPS. I slip mine into the car charger often these days, it is one of the easiest phones to get in and out of the dock as the charge port is on the side.
SD storage, again I use my phone for a whole bunch of things and have never gone close to using the full storage. I stream over Spotify via Bluetooth to my car head unit. I have about 20-30 user apps installed. I just can not fill the phone. I even have the 16GB model from Hong Kong while most around me who bought from Telstra have 32GB.
I have had my phone for 15 months now and the camera still works perfectly. My last phone(s) was a Nexus One and a Nokia E68(or something) I smashed the camera lens on the Nokia before 12 months, not sure how, but my One XL is fine.
Then the next user, Zodiac:
I like the unlock at the top, easy to reach with right index finger, but can not be accidentally pushed.
Then, antichamp:
pogo pin issues( I initially really wanted to use the pogo pins aswell just for the gimmick until I realized they only seem cool)
1)The pogo pins are used on the desk dock.
2)The USB port actually "locks" the phone in to the car dock, the car dock requires a locking mechanism unlike the desk dock.
3)The pogo pins would cause scratch marks along the back as the pins drag along the case as you slide the phone in and out of a car dock.
4)The pins on the dock would wear out because of #3
5)What is wrong with the USB port?
The phone is easy to get root on. All issues are AT&T, the phone in EVERY other region is a breeze to unlock.
My gripe is weird data issues, where you sometimes need to give the phone a kick (eg via airplane mode toggling) to reset data (3g, 4g or wifi).
This was been improved dramatically though the updates but is still a niggling issue that sometimes crops up.
Also originally I disliked not having a hardware menu key and being forced into the Android 3 dot menu thing. Ofcourse HTC listened and fixed that issue in an update.

When you say sound is great are we talking about the same phone? Can barely hear my phone speakers from the back seat of my car.
That and spotty service/data issues are my only gripes on this phone.
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cannonofcourse said:
Now my camera has went out. No camera.. Ive tried everything, I even called HTC support they tried and they say "need new hardware". I really hate to tear into this phone.
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I think I might be having the same issue as you. Does the camera app just freeze immediately and crash? Then says cannot connect to camera when you try to open it again. Happened to me on AOKP Milestone 2 (rohan said it was an issue in the mainline AOKP), but now I've run 3.18 RUU and flashed the latest CM10.1 nightly and had the same issue.
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cannonofcourse said:
A factory reset from the bootloader erases everything on your phone including backups. EVERYTHING ON YOUR PHONE! Not the recovery though...
Is there any way of securing the data so this never happens?
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This only occurs after you have modded the phone, so you can't blame HTC for this. Factory reset from bootloader works fine on stock phones.
The way to secure your data is very simple: Don't factory reset from bootloader. Its been mentioned in countless places. So if you wiped your backups, its your own fault for lack of proper research.

Research? Lets just try and read before quoting...
redpoint73 said:
This only occurs after you have modded the phone, so you can't blame HTC for this. Factory reset from bootloader works fine on stock phones.
The way to secure your data is very simple: Don't factory reset from bootloader. Its been mentioned in countless places. So if you wiped your backups, its your own fault for lack of proper research.
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I would expect this kind of blasphemy if I posted a dumb video on YouTube, but the fact that this is a dev site full of "professionals". I posted a comment against my better judgement to try and find answers or suggestions about my phone. The first response is that
"This isnt the place for that" And then 2nd response is
"Why did you buy the one x, you should have known about these things"
First of all I dont think its constructive to rip someone down for a post when clearly alot of people are having the same problem. And I wish I would have found an honest review of this phone before I bought it. I wish I could have read my post before buying this phone. But for some reason Im a black sheep (to a few) for giving my opinion on very important flaws that anyone should be concerned with. I love HTC and have 6 devices prior to this one.
Im not sure who (the 5th reply) twist....? works for and to make statements like never having a storage issue and dont mind the internal card.? I never said anything about the storage. I am commenting on the fact you cant remove the sd card just to make sure the data is secure. And I would love to have a number of how many people use a car dock or computer dock.?? Maybe this guy works for a manufacturer/...///??
I always carry an extra battery and Im not the only person who does. To act like that is unreasonable is just ridiculous.
Of course not all phones are perfect Of course! Why would anyone feel the need to say that...
I love my ONE X It just annoys me that I cant take pictures of my little girl with it. Or store any important data on it. Ive had at least 5 people contact me about the camera issue and are having the same problem.
This last reply to my review and concerns and wanted suggestions takes the cake.
The last comment clearly says that if "you want to secure your data then dont do a factory reset from the boot-loader. It only happens on Modded phones". I have 6 HTC phones and none of them wipe the complete phone to include the external sd. NONE... I wanted to know if it was possible to lock the sd storage or "trick" it to thinking it had an external sd and dont wipe that. If you dont know the answer then fine. I dont see how that is irrational. And I dont think anyone comes to this site because they want to get information on "never modding or rooting there phone." This site is kinda geared towards people who enjoy learning and doing cool, great and ingenious things to make everyone's life better. Or awesome. But to get completely ripped by senior members and the comments being about something other than what I or other members even said is UN professional. This site encourages members to post on General Forumns. I think its 10 before I can move to the big boy pages. But at this rate what could I possible have to gain by it. If I make mistakes or brick my phone then why should I feel like an idiot for wanting people to know why and how it happened to save them a headache? I dont see how typing anymore will stress how childish most of the replies to my posts have been, cannonofcourse out...

You need to calm down. Redpoint was right.
Sent from my Evita

Bottom line, you want perfect stability, Don't root.

cannonofcourse said:
The back key is for left hand people,
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I'm right handed and it really doesn't bother me. I can sympathize with having to get used to differences on devices. It always takes a while for me to get used to things.
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No battery? What I mean to say is no extra battery. Ive always bought an extra battery so that if I don't have a plug-in or charger I got it covered.
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I find that external battery packs are way more convenient. You can pick up a 10,000 mah Anker pack for under $50 and it'll charge your phone several times. And it works for any other devices that you might have that charge via USB. And it will work on the next phone that you buy.
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Can someone give me any reason why the charge port is on the side?
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No idea. It does however work very well with the iBolt car dock. Quick and easy to put the phone in and lock it.
cannonofcourse said:
No SD storage... This is probably the main reason Im done with HTC. A factory reset from the bootloader erases everything on your phone including backups. EVERYTHING ON YOUR PHONE! Not the recovery though...
Is there any way of securing the data so this never happens?
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I found this out the hard way as well, but anything on my phone exists other places. I don't consider my phone to be a place to store unrecoverable files. My photos are automatically backed up to G+, contacts and email are on Google, anything else doesn't really matter.
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Now my camera has went out. No camera.. Ive tried everything, I even called HTC support they tried and they say "need new hardware". I really hate to tear into this phone.
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That just sucks. I had to get a warranty replacement at one point due to a bad SIM slot, but the AT&T service center swapped it out no questions asked, didn't even notice that the bootloader was unlocked.
With all of that said, I really do think that people here are trying to help.

cannonofcourse said:
I would expect this kind of blasphemy if I posted a dumb video on YouTube, but the fact that this is a dev site full of "professionals".
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So if anybody disagrees with you, its "blasphemy"??? Nobody here is a professional. Professionals get paid. If you mean courteous and polite, I don't see any responses to the contrary. Yes, several of us have disagreed with you. But not in any way that can remotely be considered a flame, personal attack, etc.
I was simply pointing out a FACT that the factory reset from bootloader bug exists due to the phone being hacked. HTC could have not have predicted every way user-implemented mods could harm the phone. You have some legitimate criticisms of HTC and the phone. But the factory reset issue isn't one of them.
You asked for our thoughts. We gave them. Or maybe you just wanted to hear from people that agreed with you?

I'm done with HTC as well if motorola steps up its game with the X but frankly i'll support anyone except samsung. I just want to see android evolve to more than just 1 oem (samsung).
I don't hold the past against any oem. If i like the new phone, i'll buy it.

twistedddx said:
Then, antichamp:
pogo pin issues( I initially really wanted to use the pogo pins aswell just for the gimmick until I realized they only seem cool)
1)The pogo pins are used on the desk dock.
2)The USB port actually "locks" the phone in to the car dock, the car dock requires a locking mechanism unlike the desk dock.
3)The pogo pins would cause scratch marks along the back as the pins drag along the case as you slide the phone in and out of a car dock.
4)The pins on the dock would wear out because of #3
5)What is wrong with the USB port?
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There is no desk dock for this phone...
For the international version there is, regardless of it's mediocre reviews.
I recently discovered the unfortunate truth of your 2nd point (I'm trying to make my own car dock).
On three and four, wouldn't that indicate a poor design of the phone? (blame the user ala apple's "you're holding it wrong")
There's nothing wrong with the usb port, I just think it would be convienient to both charge the phone and get analog audio out without connecting both the usb and 3.5mm jack.
fleabeard said:
I had to get a warranty replacement at one point due to a bad SIM slot, but the AT&T service center swapped it out no questions asked, didn't even notice that the bootloader was unlocked.
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Hmmm, bad sim slot you say?
If I don't leave my phone face down it loses service. I have to restart it upside down and shake it before it will come back.
Think I could have the same problem?

It's possible. Or it could just be the SIM carrier.
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fleabeard said:
I'm right handed and it really doesn't bother me. I can sympathize with having to get used to differences on devices. It always takes a while for me to get used to things.
I find that external battery packs are way more convenient. You can pick up a 10,000 mah Anker pack for under $50 and it'll charge your phone several times. And it works for any other devices that you might have that charge via USB. And it will work on the next phone that you buy.
Actually I bought one of the "power on the go" packs from radio shack and broke it apart, replaced the battery with a 3600mah I ordered for my evo on accident. It cost about 8 dollars (plus the cost of the extra battery 12 bucks I think) and it charges my phone incredibly fast and about 3 times before I have to charge it back.up. Nothing worse than hearing that beep noise when your trying to get something done.
No idea. It does however work very well with the iBolt car dock. Quick and easy to put the phone in and lock it.
I found this out the hard way as well, but anything on my phone exists other places. I don't consider my phone to be a place to store unrecoverable files. My photos are automatically backed up to G+, contacts and email are on Google, anything else doesn't really matter.
I do try to back up everything to the cloud, via Google drive or I have a media server but it always seems like the one thing I needed is gone forever. I just found out the hard way that a reset from the bootloader took out my whole phone. It just sucks not being able to pull the card out and hold it.
That just sucks. I had to get a warranty replacement at one point due to a bad SIM slot, but the AT&T service center swapped it out no questions asked, didn't even notice that the bootloader was unlocked.
It seems like a certain set of serial numbers are having a hardware issue. I hate to go without my phone to get it fixed but I guess thats what I have to do. Thats the price we pay to have it all wrapped up in one little cool device.
With all of that said, I really do think that people here are trying to help.
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I know there are plenty of people that do a fantastic superhuman job. Just hours of searching to find out if someone has or is working on a fix or if I can provide info to contribute seems like so many people just lashing out for no reason.. But maybe Im being defensive.
Thanks

Unfortunately I highly doubt the issues you've brought up can be "fixed".
But...
I'm pretty sure you can change the location of the back button on certain aosp ROMs though.
Using battery case should mitigate the need for a removable battery.
The fact that doing a factory reset from bootloader wipes your phone can't be changed, but a little research on here warns of that in numerous places. And I don't think that's necessarily HTC's fault. It's up to us to educate ourselves about the risks we face when altering our devices.
For instance: TWRP 2.6 has an advanced wipe feature which makes it very easy to wipe your sd card while wiping the usual system and caches. I did that myself just recently, accidentally checked the wrong box and wiped my sd. I lost everything. Without a backup. So many photos of my kids gone for good. But I don't blame TWRP for making it easy to do that. I blame myself for working too fast and not being careful enough.
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cannonofcourse said:
I know there are plenty of people that do a fantastic superhuman job. Just hours of searching to find out if someone has or is working on a fix or if I can provide info to contribute seems like so many people just lashing out for no reason.. But maybe Im being defensive.
Thanks
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Did the factory reset thrrough bootloader cause your problems??
If so, all yous gotta do is plug yer phone right into your computer and let windows detect it. Once it finds it, it will send you a window that says something along the lines of having an error with the sd card, from there click the button that says fix errors, and your all set. This happened to me before and I couldnt play music, store or access anything, or use the camera. But now it works perfectly.
And as for the extra battery, the portable chargers provide more battery life with less money. It makes more sense to buy a portable charger even if we did have removable batteries. :good::good::good::good: