Like the title says, which do you think would be the best way to to go, stick with ICS and unlock and root, or install the OTA for Jelly Bean and then unlock and root? Pros and cons? I just got my tablet and I'm trying to figure out the best course of action.Thanks for any insight!
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ICS unlock + root or JB unlock +root way to go, stick with ICS and unlock and root, or install the OTA for Jelly Bean and then unlock and root? Pros and cons? I just got my tablet and I'm trying to figure out the best course of action.Thanks for any insight!
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It depends on your ultimate goal. If you are definitely wanting jb and willing to unlock, then I would update first, then unlock, then root. It's a safer path in my opinion. Note - once you update to jb you can't go back to ICS because jb updates partitions and the bootloader itself.
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funnel71 said:
It depends on your ultimate goal. If you are definitely wanting jb and willing to unlock, then I would update first, then unlock, then root. It's a safer path in my opinion. Note - once you update to jb you can't go back to ICS because jb updates partitions and the bootloader itself.
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To be honest I'm not sure, from what I've been reading on this forum a lot of people are unhappy with the JB update, and I know there are JB based roms like Black Bean that I can run on the ICS firmware. On the other hand there are others who say the JB update has improved the I/O. I guess the main thing holding me back from updating to ICS is the lack of flash, my kids also use the tablet for watching youtube or embedded videos on kids sites - is that possible with the stock browser on JB?
Also, I know you can update to JB and keep root, but will the unlocker tool from Asus work again after unlocking ICS as well? Thanks again for any advice!
My jb is fine. Others don't like. I'd just read and judge for yourself. Unlock will work for jb. If you've unlocked on ICS, you don't have to unlock again.
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My jb is fine. Others don't like. I'd just read and judge for yourself. Unlock will work for jb. If you've unlocked on ICS, you don't have to unlock again.
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Ok thanks. Can you still watch youtube (website or app)? It's my only real concern since my kids need to be able to. Also, if I unlock ICS can I still flash the JB update manually?
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Ok thanks. Can you still watch youtube (website or app)? It's my only real concern since my kids need to be able to. Also, if I unlock ICS can I still flash the JB update manually?
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I use the YouTube app with no issue.
As for jb flash, the guide in the general section explains the procedure but I didn't use that piece because I upgraded while locked. I unlocked after.
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I use the YouTube app with no issue.
As for jb flash, the guide in the general section explains the procedure but I didn't use that piece because I upgraded while locked. I unlocked after.
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I am not yet unlocked, if I do upgrade I will unlock after that too. So you can play embedded videos with the stock browser also? A lot of the children's websites my kids use all have Flash content....
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I am not yet unlocked, if I do upgrade I will unlock after that too. So you can play embedded videos with the stock browser also? A lot of the children's websites my kids use all have Flash content....
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Can anyone on JB confirm for me that the stock browser plays embedded videos? As I said it's the only thing stopping me from upgrading as my kids need to be able to view their favoirite websites like this one:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/numtums/games/numtums-games/
Thanks!
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Can anyone on JB confirm for me that the stock browser plays embedded videos? As I said it's the only thing stopping me from upgrading as my kids need to be able to view their favoirite websites like this one:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/numtums/games/numtums-games/
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Can anyone help? Please?
Originally Posted by ems328i
Can anyone on JB confirm for me that the stock browser plays embedded videos? As I said it's the only thing stopping me from upgrading as my kids need to be able to view their favoirite websites like this one:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbeebies/numtum...numtums-games/
Thanks!
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But you CAN install flash on Jelly Bean-upgraded TF300T!
It's just not available on the Play store, but can be 'side-loaded' and installed like any other third party application. ICS version of flash works well on JB.
I can confirm the stock browser on Jelly Bean runs youtube website videos with the flash app. I have the tablet rooted, but not unlocked.
From what I read, the Chrome browser does not play flash, but stock one does.
The link you provided works too! Just have to remember to Request desktop site from the menu in stock browser.
Flash apk 'Guide' / download link here.
Also, if you do not intend changing ROMs, you could just save your root with OTA rootkeeper+SuperSU, update via OTA and resume root courtesy the OTA rootkeeper app. I did that as I didn't want to unlock just yet.
desktopfusion said:
But you CAN install flash on Jelly Bean-upgraded TF300T!
It's just not available on the Play store, but can be 'side-loaded' and installed like any other third party application. ICS version of flash works well on JB.
I can confirm the stock browser on Jelly Bean runs youtube website videos with the flash app. I have the tablet rooted, but not unlocked.
From what I read, the Chrome browser does not play flash, but stock one does.
The link you provided works too! Just have to remember to Request desktop site from the menu in stock browser.
Flash apk 'Guide' / download link here.
Also, if you do not intend changing ROMs, you could just save your root with OTA rootkeeper+SuperSU, update via OTA and resume root courtesy the OTA rootkeeper app. I did that as I didn't want to unlock just yet.
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Good to know, thanks!
Related
Since Jellybean update is just around the corner, can anyone suggest initial steps to be done prior to the said update?
Thanks a lot...
Don't: root, unlock, flash or **** with your TF700 in any way if you're currently on stock and want the update OTA.
Do: wait patiently and regularly check this forum and/or check for firmware update on your TF700.
Rooting may not prevent the update, I took .30 over .26 while rooted and it applied perfectly fine.
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Being Rooted is fine. I don't understand why this is still going around about being rooted prevents ota. You can still receive ota updates when rooted. You will actually lose root when you do take the update. Unless you protect your root with voodoo ota rootkeeper.
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That is what I thought, but this is my first tablet and my first ASUS, so I didn't want to state definitively that it would not affect the update.
I've had 2 Motorola Android-based smartphones, so I'm familiar with Android in general, but different OEMs do things differently, obviously.
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So if I'm unlocked I can't receive the OTA?
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SuperSonicRob said:
So if I'm unlocked I can't receive the OTA?
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correct
I've included info in my tweaks thread about SuperSU meant for, hopefully, not losing root after the update.
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correct
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I should still be able to get it manually right? Still new to this device, all I've ever had was HTC android devices.
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So if I'm unlocked I can't receive the OTA?
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Nope. You can of course download the update from ASUS' website and flash it yourself, but they won't do it for you no more. : )
1. If you are 100% stock - NO problem with OTA.
2.. If you are just rooted - you can download OTA root keeper from the market and perform a temp unroot your device to get ready(if you want to keep root after the update). OTA should work fine. After the update some people may have to REroot.
3. If you have unlocked bootloader with root or without root, you will NOT able to do OTA update. Once you unlocked your bootloader, OTA no longer works and NO you can't RElocked your bootloader to take OTA. You will have to manually perform the update. There will be plenty of instruction how to do once JB is out.
Hope it's clear for everyone.
4. If you have custom rom, definitely NO OTA update and you don't want OTA update anyway. Just wait for a new official JB custom rom or update manually.
Is it really necessary to enable disabled applications beforehand or it's just another Android myth??
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megamoz said:
Is it really necessary to enable disabled applications beforehand or it's just another Android myth??
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What application you referred to??
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What application you referred to??
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Basically bloatware,
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Is it really necessary to enable disabled applications beforehand or it's just another Android myth??
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I would err on the side of caution and enable all. Then do a cold boot. Only then, do you do the update. After the update, disable the apps. Then cold boot again. :good:
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1. If you are 100% stock - NO problem with OTA.
2.. If you are just rooted - you can download OTA root keeper from the market and perform a temp unroot your device to get ready(if you want to keep root after the update). OTA should work fine. After the update some people may have to REroot.
3. If you have unlocked bootloader with root or without root, you will NOT able to do OTA update. Once you unlocked your bootloader, OTA no longer works and NO you can't RElocked your bootloader to take OTA. You will have to manually perform the update. There will be plenty of instruction how to do once JB is out.
Hope it's clear for everyone.
4. If you have custom rom, definitely NO OTA update and you don't want OTA update anyway. Just wait for a new official JB custom rom or update manually.
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So if I'm running the Zues custom rom now, once the official jellybean hits I can download manually from ASUS website and flash in TWRP?
Yes you can flash official firmwares with TWRP, though it has been stated there may be some issues with TWRP until they get it recompiled using the new kernel source.
how-to here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1755576
yeah flashing the update with twrp is ok (i think) but then just stick with stock recovery until twrp is updated. No idea if cwm is the same way... guess we should read up in the tf300 forum.
Uninstall ezoverclock. Don't think it works on the infinity anyway, but i had it installed since i used it on the prime. The 300 forum indicated that it will cause bootloops.
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Don't: Update right away.
Do: Wait for a few days, people will post the good and the bad of this update and you can decide whether to update or not.
Is there a way to Unlock or Root the TF700 with the current JB firmware? My TF700 came stock with JB, and it seems like Asus took down the links to the ICS firmware on their support site.
As others have said in various threads, you can be on JB and unlock no problem. It says ICS only but Asus are just lazy and haven't updated their site. I unlocked on JB and everything is fine.
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So after that i'll be able to root it no problem?
Correct. I just did it last night and everything worked fine. Unlocked and rooted on latest 4.1.1 JB!
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New TF700 owner here.
Curious to getting root w/o unlocking it? I looked at some other threads and only talk about keeping root while upgrading etc.
So far loving this tablet, the dock makes it 100x more useful when you need it.
Trigster said:
New TF700 owner here.
Curious to getting root w/o unlocking it? I looked at some other threads and only talk about keeping root while upgrading etc.
So far loving this tablet, the dock makes it 100x more useful when you need it.
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As far as I know, the only way to root it without unlocking the bootloader is if you have ICS and just use the debugfs command program, as far as rooting with JB I know you have to have the bootloader unlocked. In all honesty I don't mind taking the risk of unlocking my bootloader because I have Geek Squad Protection on my tablet and can just get a new one for free.
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ffd173 said:
Correct. I just did it last night and everything worked fine. Unlocked and rooted on latest 4.1.1 JB!
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HI,i got my infinity unlocked but can't seem to find the right instructions on how to rooted,im on JB 4.1.1,i tried InfinityRoot but it fails,please help me.
burnaccess said:
HI,i got my infinity unlocked but can't seem to find the right instructions on how to rooted,im on JB 4.1.1,i tried InfinityRoot but it fails,please help me.
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This thread should help you out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1938129
You should use TWRP 2.3.1 instead of 2.2.2.3, which he reccommends, though. They have fixed the issues he talks about.
burnaccess said:
HI,i got my infinity unlocked but can't seem to find the right instructions on how to rooted,im on JB 4.1.1,i tried InfinityRoot but it fails,please help me.
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Just follow this instruction but use the latest twrp version 2.3.1 instead:
http://goo.im/devs/s0updev/goomanager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32825557
I'm wanting to take the plunge myself - but do you have to use the Asus unlocker tool or is there a way around that? I'm too late to get SquareTrade I think. Too late, and too poor LOL. I just have that nagging feeling that as soon as I do the thing will bork on me.
Edit: Sorry...I just read that you can't unlock without the ASUS tool, and it's a damn shame. I want so bad to rant right now but I won't.
I think I'm still going to unlock though.
The only way I could find to root was to install CWM recovery first, and then install the CWM SuperUser app. I replaced CWM with TWRP when all was said and done. Both are now touch interfaces making things so much less laborious. The links for doing so are all around the web and these forums. I had my frustrations but in the end it was easier than I thought it would be. I'm happy I took the plunge. I believe a lot of my frustrations were from ASUS' horrible implementation of Android. My benchmarks are now 6300+ on Quadrant with 2D GPU rendering on. I know benchmarks aren't everything but, you won't be sorry if you're giving up some kind of warranty to get the device you paid premium dollar for.
hi, First I want to describe my problem. Many of tf700 users had update failure when jb came out and I am one of them. I used my tablet with ics until today. I want to update it to jb. I already read some manuel updating guides but no luck I couldnt get it worked. Even followed the guide about dmclient etc. And many of these guides they are redirecting me to asus website for jb firmware. In asus site when choosing OS there is no OS to be selected ! I dont know why. I am on .30 version of ics. Thanks in advance
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hi, First I want to describe my problem. Many of tf700 users had update failure when jb came out and I am one of them. I used my tablet with ics until today. I want to update it to jb. I already read some manuel updating guides but no luck I couldnt get it worked. Even followed the guide about dmclient etc. And many of these guides they are redirecting me to asus website for jb firmware. In asus site when choosing OS there is no OS to be selected ! I dont know why. I am on .30 version of ics. Thanks in advance
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Please provide the follow info before we start:
1. go to settings -about tablet and provide full build number
2. Are you rooted? or PURE STOCK?
IMLK74 WW epad 9.4.5.30-20120907. Yes I am rooted and unlocked now. stock rom
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muhsino said:
IMLK74 WW epad 9.4.5.30-20120907. Yes I am rooted and unlocked now. stock rom
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OK, so you have a lot of options, do you want to run custom rom?? it's a night and day between custom rom and stock. If you are unlocked, there is NO REASON to stay with stock rom!!!
Yeah I unlocked for it but you know whats my problem. I can flash ics custom roms I know. Is there a way update to jb with twrp ? Or what do you recommend me to do
For example can I directly flash cleanrom while i am not on jb ?
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muhsino said:
Yeah I unlocked for it but you know whats my problem. I can flash ics custom roms I know. Is there a way update to jb with twrp ? Or what do you recommend me to do
For example can I directly flash cleanrom while i am not on jb ?
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with twrp you could flash full stock JB firmware (included JB bootloader), or just flash independant JB bootloader, then flash cleanrom. The easiest way is flash JB bootloader then Cleanrom. Make sure your twrp is either version 2.3.10 or newer.
JB bootloader and cleanrom can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2049274
Thanks. When some good guy helps it gets pretty easier Thank you
does any one noticed that google books, google magazines and google movies always gets disabled after reboot or turn on the tablet? i have purchased magazines and everytime i want to read them i had to go to google play and look for magazines section and then enable the app because the tab keeps disabling it automatically...
device is not rooted, dont know how to, and its unlocked. JB 4.2.1
blankito350 said:
does any one noticed that google books, google magazines and google movies always gets disabled after reboot or turn on the tablet? i have purchased magazines and everytime i want to read them i had to go to google play and look for magazines section and then enable the app because the tab keeps disabling it automatically...
device is not rooted, dont know how to, and its unlocked. JB 4.2.1
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If you already unlocked, you should flash twrp then use twrp to flash the prerooted stock rom can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223918 . It's a BIG waste if yours is unlocked and not taken advantage of it.
buhohitr said:
If you already unlocked, you should flash twrp then use twrp to flash the prerooted stock rom can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223918 . It's a BIG waste if yours is unlocked and not taken advantage of it.
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Ill try this tonight.. Thanks bro
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If you already unlocked, you should flash twrp then use twrp to flash the prerooted stock rom can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2223918 . It's a BIG waste if yours is unlocked and not taken advantage of it.
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Luck buddy !!
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Luck buddy !!
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Wait another day or two you should be the new tf700 Cleanrom built on JB 4.2.1. Now this will be your final rom to flash!!
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Wait another day or two you should be the new tf700 Cleanrom built on JB 4.2.1. Now this will be your final rom to flash!!
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just let me know when it arrives, and please let me about your process to get it rooted. ...
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HI all,
I'm not new to the flashing game, but this asus device seems to be high maintenance.
I wanna install the AOKP 4.2.2 Full Functionality custom rom on my device. Here is how I plan to do it. Can someone verify that this procedure will work as I don't wanna ruin my tablet.
1. I'm gonna root my device using Unlock_v8.apk to unlock bootloader then recovery-jb.img to root.
2. I wanna use GooManager to flash the following files in this order
a) Aokp_R05.zip
b) gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip
c) update.zip (to fix governor issue)
Thats it!! Will this work?
One last question. Is AOKP 4.2.2 Full Functionality a Build or a Milestone?
Thanking you in advance
sindahouse said:
1. I'm gonna root my device using Unlock_v8.apk to unlock bootloader then recovery-jb.img to root.
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Be careful, which bootloader do you have installed now?
If it is 4.2, recovery-jb.img may brick your device.
If it is 4.1, I think you need to use Unlock_V7.apk.
Also make sure, which bootloader is supported by the ROM you want to install.
That it has version 4.2 does not mean it will work with the Asus 4.2 bootloader.
There are several threads on upgrading/downgrading the bootloader.
Please read carefully!
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f69m said:
Be careful, which bootloader do you have installed now?
If it is 4.2, recovery-jb.img may brick your device.
If it is 4.1, I think you need to use Unlock_V7.apk.
Also make sure, which bootloader is supported by the ROM you want to install.
That it has version 4.2 does not mean it will work with the Asus 4.2 bootloader.
There are several threads on upgrading/downgrading the bootloader.
Please read carefully!
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Ok dumb question: How do I check the bootloader version. I am currently running JB 4.2.1. Does this mean I have boatloader 4.2?
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Ok dumb question: How do I check the bootloader version. I am currently running JB 4.2.1. Does this mean I have boatloader 4.2?
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Not a dumb question!
Yes, if you are running Asus 4.2 stock ROM, you have bootloader 4.2.
Make sure to read the respective threads carefully. It is not well supported yet and many users bricked their devices by not reading carefully enough.
Specifically: keep away from CWM (recovery*.img) and use only the TWRP version patched specifically for BL 4.2.
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All roms out except based on stock 4.2.1
Require old bootloader. You need to downgrade
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Ok thank you all so much. You've been very helpful. I don't think I'm gonna root my tablet anymore. If i have to downgrade boatloader, then flash it.. It just sounds like its high maintenance. I'll just tolerate it for now. I may revisit this option at another time. Is downgrading boatloader a pain in the butt? Thank u for letting know about my boatloafer version, which recovery to root & about the downgrading of boatloaders. You've all been so very helpful. Thank you.
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All roms out except based on stock 4.2.1
Require old bootloader. You need to downgrade
Sent from magical jelly bean.
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Thank you Kaos420. I actually am interested in flashing AOKP 4.2.2. Judging on what you've said, that custom rom should be ok with my boatloader. Is that correct?
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Not a dumb question!
Yes, if you are running Asus 4.2 stock ROM, you have bootloader 4.2.
Make sure to read the respective threads carefully. It is not well supported yet and many users bricked their devices by not reading carefully enough.
Specifically: keep away from CWM (recovery*.img) and use only the TWRP version patched specifically for BL 4.2.
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Thank You f69m. I now know what boatloader I have, so thank you. I'll try and find the TWRP version patched for BL4.2
Thanx again
sindahouse said:
Thank you Kaos420. I actually am interested in flashing AOKP 4.2.2. Judging on what you've said, that custom rom should be ok with my boatloader. Is that correct?
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Judging from your other comments, you have the new boot loader 4.2, right?
Sorry, but then AOKP 4.2.2 is not for you without downgrading.
For installing TWRP and/or downgrading, use this thread as a starting point; it links to others.
Of course you can skip the part about upgrading to 4.2 boot loader, scroll down a little!
[GUIDE] Update/Recovery/Root/Downgrade Android 4.2.1 on Unlocked/Locked Devices
If you don't want to downgrade, this thread lists the two ROMs that are currently compatible with your bootloader:
[WARINING] DO NOT install a recovery from 4.1 on a 4.2 tablet!
Or you might want to just wait a little. Seems Asus finally released the new kernel source code, so there should soon be more ROMs supporting the new 4.2 boot loader.
Thank u f69m again youve been so very helpful. I really dont like the latest update on the tablet. My tab seems to be very slow. I think i will downgrade the boatloader and install aokp 4.2.2..
If i could just ask though, how on earth do u guyz check boatloader versions?
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Thank u f69m again youve been so very helpful. I really dont like the latest update on the tablet. My tab seems to be very slow. I think i will downgrade the boatloader and install aokp 4.2.2..
If i could just ask though, how on earth do u guyz check boatloader versions?
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Just depends on what fimware version your on if your on 4.21 then your on the newest bootloader just downgrade back to 4.1.1 to be on the last one to us aokp 4.2.2