can you downgrade your bootloader by rolling back to nodo update? - Windows Phone 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Basically I have Mozart with 5.12 bootloader, I want to install custom roms. Will my bootloader return to original if I use my nodo back up??

toothfish said:
Basically I have Mozart with 5.12 bootloader, I want to install custom roms. Will my bootloader return to original if I use my nodo back up??
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Yes it will work...but there is a process to it.
I used the Zune restore point/backup to downgrade my SPL from 5.10.
Basically if you use the restore point and go back to NoDo your SPL will still be 5.12, since Zune doesn't change your SPL. What changes the SPL is update process.
What you have to do is, restore your device and then start the update process through Zune again. Update the device all the way through 7392,7403 and next comes Mango and that's when the SPL is changed from 5.xxx to 4.xxx. This is the key part thought, The phone will reboot twice, once to change the SPL and once to actually install Mango once the phone reboots the 2nd time YOU HAVE TO STOP THE UPDATE PROCESS before the final HTC firware update is applied otherwise your SPL will be changed back to 5.xxx.
Now you can flash a stock/shipped rom via bootloader mode and lower your SPL to at or below 3.xxx, install RSPL/HSPL and the flash a custom rom. The whole process will take about 45 mins to an hour.
There's a tutorial here too if you need it -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362194

Οr you can downgrade via Goldcard and USB Y cable method to anything you want !!!

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how can i install an old ROM ?

i am using currently AKU3.3 jester b1 and want to install JAMin's old ROM but the flasher is giving an error and asking to use a newer version of nbf file.
is there a way to install an old ROM to my device ?
try to cook a rom with the nk.nbf from your "old rom" using this tutorial
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271043
this rom will install on spl 2.20 also if it's for spl 2.15
when you tried installing your "old rom" it stops at 95% right?
i had the same problem with my german rom and after using this tutorial i can now use the spl 2.15 rom with my spl 2.20 prophet
good luck
this can brick my phone as it is vey risky.
is there a simple way just to flash my phone to an old ROM i mean from 2.20.7.34 to 2.13.9.23 ?
If you had read the post of risidero carefully you would know that it could NOT brick your phone
it modifies your rom so it doesnt contain any IPL nor SPL data. they are staying untouched
the only risk is a non booting ROM which you can simply flash againt when going to bootloader (hold camera button while soft reset)
risidoro said:
By following this tutorial, you're removing both the bootloaders (IPL and SPL) from a rom of your choice. This means that, if you don't make errors while 'cooking' the rom, you cannot completely destroy (brick) your phone. Sure, you could end up with a non-booting rom but, as long as you can get to the three colors screen (the bootloader screen) you'll always be able to install a different (or your previous) working rom.
On the other hand, messing with IPL and SPL (i.e. installing a rom containing IPL and SPL in a CID locked device) is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS and MUST be avoided in most cases!!!
Installing a 2.xx rom without messing with your phone's IPL and SPL is exactly what this tutorial tries to explain.
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Dft restore Ospl to downgrade spl

Is it possible?
Choose a Ospl and restore on official mango rom.
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You can flash any official ROM just fine. It uses the same RUU program. It can be done if you're already on HSPL, and most will restore OSPL as well as restoring the official ROM.
GoodDayToDie said:
You can flash any official ROM just fine. It uses the same RUU program. It can be done if you're already on HSPL, and most will restore OSPL as well as restoring the official ROM.
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problem is i dont have HSPL on my phone.
Only used RSPL before, but since the latest HTC firmware update bootloader 5.0 i am unable to do anything,

Unlocked Bootloader and Stock Rom Inquiry

My device information
Android Version
2.3.5
HTC Sense Version
3.0
Software Number
2.15.707.2
Kernel Version
2.6.35.10
HBoot
2.00.0002
Unlocked by HTCDev and rooted by flashing cwm-4.0.1.4-saga.img and su-3.0-efgh-signed and now I want to revert it back to stock rom and relock my bootloader..
now my problems are
1. factory reset is not working if i relocked my bootloader
2. i want to remove the root of my nandroid backup
3. if possible how to downgrade without turning s-off?
You probably want to apply a RUU, it will reset everything to stock. Make sure you get the oldest one so you can easily get back to S-OFF with Revolutionary.
I don't know if "unrooting" a backup is possible.
Well I hope you did a backup?
Just restore your backup afterwards flash original recovery...look @modaco for that...and relock your bootloader ^^
...RUU isn't that easy to find for every rom...
You want to get back to retail status or did I get it wrong?

[Q]nelp me to flash RSPL on HTC surround

Need help as I'm doing it for the first time
I have Radio 5.69.09.05a_22.50.50 and bootloader 4.3.2250
I want to flash RSPL and then DFT ROM, but as I see I need to downgrade bootloader to something like 1.52
If I flash Radio 5.66.09.09_22.46.50 from Mondrian Cingular 1.52.502.04 file on my device , will it brick it? can I flash 5.66 radio over 5.69? to downgrade bootloader?
or what should I do to get any Custom ROM?
You should actually be able to downgrade SPL 4.x directly (3.1 or lower is needed to install HSPL, which then lets you flash a custom ROM). Have you tried just rolling back to an old restor point (NoDo, perhaps) or flashing just the SPL (you can do this using the RUU) of an old ROM?
I downgraded my SPL from 4.5 to 3.1 by doing this. I'm still using a stock ROM, but until I install an update that overwrites the SPL, I know I *can* install R/HSPL any time I want to.
GoodDayToDie said:
You should actually be able to downgrade SPL 4.x directly (3.1 or lower is needed to install HSPL, which then lets you flash a custom ROM). Have you tried just rolling back to an old restor point (NoDo, perhaps) or flashing just the SPL (you can do this using the RUU) of an old ROM?
I downgraded my SPL from 4.5 to 3.1 by doing this. I'm still using a stock ROM, but until I install an update that overwrites the SPL, I know I *can* install R/HSPL any time I want to.
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I restored with zune to NoDo and bootloader is still 4.3
I'm afraid to flash directly as it was said by Cotulla that flashin 4.xx MANGO `SPL-s will brick the phone. so can I just flash a lower radio version that downgrades the SPL, or I need a goldcard method?
With 4.x you should be able to use a radio/SPL image to downgrade. It's still installed using RUU, but you don't need a full ROM. There's even a configuration that won't wipe the phone when you flash it (obviously not useful for a full ROM, but I found it handy when I was trying different methods but didn't want to need to restore a backup to get my data back).
I pulled the download for my phone (radio + SPL pre-loaded in a RUU set up to not wipe the data) from the HD7-specific forum.
Dear Mr. GoodDayToDie
Could you please point us to where we can get the RUU file for the Surround device.
I have the Exact situation as Mr. DJSave Have.
Thanks in advance
Thanks a lot my problems solved her:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2103166&page=3
Thanks

Downgrade bootloader Mozart

Hi how can i downgrade bootloader version of my HTC 7 Mozart europe STOCK everything bootloader version 5.12... and up to date ROM version.
here is something about it but download link is dead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413694
Hi again,
If you can't find a working link for the SLSPL rom then there are only 2 other methods that you can use to downgrade SPL 5.xxx
1. The goldcard method that I already described to you.
2. Zune restore point method - Restore your device through Zune to a Pre-Mango state. Meaning that you upgraded your device through Zune from a Pre-Mango state to Mango and still have the PC that you used to do it with. This is the process for it.
If you use the restore point method and go back to a NoDo build your SPL will still be 5.12, since Zune doesn't change your SPL. What changes the SPL is the re-update process.
Connect your device to the PC, open Zune, click on phone - settings - update - on the update screen you'll see the restore button. restore your device to NoDo. Once that's finished then start the update process through Zune again. Update the device all the way through 7392,7403 and next comes Mango and that's when the SPL is changed from 5.xxx to 4.xxx. This is the key part thought, The phone will reboot twice, once to change the SPL and once to actually install Mango, once the phone reboots the 2nd time YOU HAVE TO STOP THE UPDATE PROCESS before the final HTC firmware update 7740 is applied otherwise if you apply that your SPL will be changed back to 5.xxx.
Now the devices SPL is 4.xxx and you can flash a stock/shipped Pre-NoDo/NoDo rom via bootloader mode and lower your SPL to at or below 3.xxx (which is required to install XSPL) Once the SPL is downgrade to at or below 3.xxx you can install XSPL= RSPL/HSPL and then flash a custom rom of your choice.
There's a tutorial here too if you need it -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362194
xdrc45 said:
Hi again,
If you can't find a working link for the SLSPL rom then there are only 2 other methods that you can use to downgrade SPL 5.xxx
1. The goldcard method that I already described to you.
2. Zune restore point method - Restore your device through Zune to a Pre-Mango state. Meaning that you upgraded your device through Zune from a Pre-Mango state to Mango and still have the PC that you used to do it with. This is the process for it.
If you use the restore point method and go back to a NoDo build your SPL will still be 5.12, since Zune doesn't change your SPL. What changes the SPL is the re-update process.
Connect your device to the PC, open Zune, click on phone - settings - update - on the update screen you'll see the restore button. restore your device to NoDo. Once that's finished then start the update process through Zune again. Update the device all the way through 7392,7403 and next comes Mango and that's when the SPL is changed from 5.xxx to 4.xxx. This is the key part thought, The phone will reboot twice, once to change the SPL and once to actually install Mango, once the phone reboots the 2nd time YOU HAVE TO STOP THE UPDATE PROCESS before the final HTC firmware update 7740 is applied otherwise if you apply that your SPL will be changed back to 5.xxx.
Now the devices SPL is 4.xxx and you can flash a stock/shipped Pre-NoDo/NoDo rom via bootloader mode and lower your SPL to at or below 3.xxx (which is required to install XSPL) Once the SPL is downgrade to at or below 3.xxx you can install XSPL= RSPL/HSPL and then flash a custom rom of your choice.
There's a tutorial here too if you need it -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362194
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i don't keep the backups of my device because of the formatting the pc... which means i have to go with goldcard which seems to me dangerous?
How about download from here and install the rom for mozart: Link HTC Mozart: 7004 (initial ROM)
note: i have downloaded this: ruu_mozart_htc_europe_1.23.401.06_5.51.09.06_22.30.50_release.exe but i dont knwo what are those numbers in the file name i saw 401 which maybe is my region: firm rev num: 2250.21.51201.401
Gizmo_x said:
How about download from here and install the rom for mozart: Link HTC Mozart: 7004 (initial ROM)
note: i have downloaded this: ruu_mozart_htc_europe_1.23.401.06_5.51.09.06_22.30.50_release.exe but i dont knwo what are those numbers in the file name i saw 401 which maybe is my region: firm rev num: 2250.21.51201.401
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This method won't work because of your devices SPL 5.xxx version.
Honestly the goldcard method is the easiest and safest method to use and won't harm your device.
xdrc45 said:
This method won't work because of your devices SPL 5.xxx version.
Honestly the goldcard method is the easiest and safest method to use and won't harm your device.
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ok thank you, ill try to make a y cable if i can.
Update 1: i have downloaded this file: RUU_Mozart_HTC_Europe_5.11.401.01_SLSPL_Signed_by_ansar from google search which is SLSPL.like here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413694 i belive. if i flash this do i need to flash something else after it or i can turn on like normal start up the device and will have older ROM ver with downgraded SPL? or i need to flash some other RUU?
Gizmo_x said:
ok thank you, ill try to make a y cable if i can.
Update 1: i have downloaded this file: RUU_Mozart_HTC_Europe_5.11.401.01_SLSPL_Signed_by_ansar from google search which is SLSPL.like here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413694 i belive. if i flash this do i need to flash something else after it or i can turn on like normal start up the device and will have older ROM ver with downgraded SPL? or i need to flash some other RUU?
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What you can do is flash the the SLSPL rom and then check the SPL version after the flash. You might have to flash a Pre-NoDo or NoDo specific rom afterwards to downgrade the SPL to at or below 3.xxx
xdrc45 said:
What you can do is flash the the SLSPL rom and then check the SPL version after the flash. You might have to flash a Pre-NoDo or NoDo specific rom afterwards to downgrade the SPL to at or below 3.xxx
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where can i find that NODO ROM if spl version is not downgraded, is it ok ruu_mozart_htc_europe_1.23.401.06_5.51.09.06_22.30.50_release.exe?
Hope we find a solution. There's three of us at least now, me Gizmo and Sangorr. Surely there are others in Europe that have always taken any automatic Zune update to get out phones to the latest versions?
dervbas said:
Hope we find a solution. There's three of us at least now, me Gizmo and Sangorr. Surely there are others in Europe that have always taken any automatic Zune update to get out phones to the latest versions?
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Yeah the 1.23.401.06 rom will work and downgrade the SPL to 1.23.
As i understand:
1: Flash RUU_Mozart_HTC_Europe_5.11.401.01_SLSPL_Signed_by_ ansar (without closing bootloader execute 2)
2: Flash ruu_mozart_htc_europe_1.23.401.06_5.51.09.06_22.30 .50_release.exe
3: Boot your ROM??
4: Flash XSPL?
5: Flash Custom ROM
is there any problem doing this i mean are those RUU right for .401 region and is there a chance to Brick the device(i know there is chance like losing connectiong to device while flashing etc..)?
Gizmo_x said:
As i understand:
1: Flash RUU_Mozart_HTC_Europe_5.11.401.01_SLSPL_Signed_by_ ansar (without closing bootloader execute 2)
2: Flash ruu_mozart_htc_europe_1.23.401.06_5.51.09.06_22.30 .50_release.exe
3: Boot your ROM??
4: Flash XSPL?
5: Flash Custom ROM
is there any problem doing this i mean are those RUU right for .401 region and is there a chance to Brick the device(i know there is chance like losing connectiong to device while flashing etc..)?
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Yeah that's pretty much it... It's pretty easy.
You shouldn't have any problems and don't have to worry about bricking your device. The SLSPL rom is safe to flash and once that's done and you flash the 1.23 rom just make sure the SPL is downgraded to at or below 3.xxx and your safe in installing XSPL. Install rspl first and make sure the bootloader screen says RSPL and then install HSPL, make sure HSPL installed successfully too and then flash a custom rom of your choice.
Let me know how it goes!
I'll give this a go too, thanks for advice.
Sent from my 7 Mozart T8698 using Board Express
Can't even begin with this procedure because "RUU_Mozart_HTC_Europe_5.11.401.01_SLSPL_Signed_by_ ansar.zip" link doesn't work (my ISP is UK). Anyone got a working link for this download please?
dervbas said:
Can't even begin with this procedure because "RUU_Mozart_HTC_Europe_5.11.401.01_SLSPL_Signed_by_ ansar.zip" link doesn't work (my ISP is UK). Anyone got a working link for this download please?
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http://www.general-files.com/downlo..._HTC_Europe_5.11.401.01_SLSPL_Signed.rar.html
in the right sidebar there is download button which will lead you to mediafire
successfully downgraded to 1.23 SPL and NODO ROM 7.0.7004.0 now im going to flash XSPL
Unfortunately, I got the Vendor ID error on step 1, flashing the RUU_Mozart_HTC_Europe_5.11.401.01_SLSPL_Signed_by_ansar.
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Is this because my phone was bought from Orange UK and that means the 401 in my SPL number is actually fake?
dervbas said:
Unfortunately, I got the Vendor ID error on step 1, flashing the RUU_Mozart_HTC_Europe_5.11.401.01_SLSPL_Signed_by_ansar.
Is this because my phone was bought from Orange UK and that means the 401 in my SPL number is actually fake?
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Yeah more than likely.
What's the devices Firmware Revision Number?
2250.21.51201.401
But I believe that 401 is masking the real number because I unbranded it to rush the NoDo update back in Jan 2011
Sent from my 7 Mozart T8698 using Board Express
dervbas said:
2250.21.51201.401
But I believe that 401 is masking the real number because I unbranded it to rush the NoDo update back in Jan 2011
Sent from my 7 Mozart T8698 using Board Express
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Right... The device wouldn't be a true .401 Europe device then and as you found out the SLSPL method won't work.
The devices real CID/Firmware revision number would be a .061
The next easiest method to downgrade the devices SPL would be to use the goldcard method -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597837
You can use this rom and extract the ruu_signed.nbh from it and rename it to MOZAIMG.nbh for the goldcard method -
http://www.filefactory.com/file/c09..._1.30.061.01_5.54.09.21_22.33b.50_RELEASE.exe

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