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Buy used 16gb TF+dock or wait?

After getting enough money (through the HP Touchpad fiasco), i can get the tablet I really want. Theres someone nearby willing to sell me a 16gb TF with dock for 425. Nothing is wrong with it and in perfect condition.
Should I get it because its cheap, or wait for the TF 2 thats supposed to come out in the next few months?
Im wanting to be able to use a tablet for school and because I'd have one within the next few days. This is the reason Id buy it now and cause its cheap.. I dont really want to wait, but I do because the hardware will be much better
Advice please. If you were in my situation

Something else- is there anything I should be aware of software wise, firmware or anything before buying a used one?

Try to figure out if the dock has the "bad" chip that causes battery drain. There's a thread out there that has more info, but the current owner should know.
If the tablet is a B7O, it may not be rootable (as of now), and B8O and beyond are all locked for now.
The TF2 may not be out until Q2 2012. Nobody has any solid info on it, so I wouldn't wait.

Owner said its B50
Is there anything that he should "look" for maybe model number of the dock? He hasnt rooted it yet, so my guess he doesnt mind the battery life on it how it is.
Thanks for this information!

So the B5O was the first run, I believe. Should be just fine, ask if you can play with it for 5 minutes just to be sure there are no physical problems (dead pixels, sticky buttons, etc.) The speakers may be out of balance, but I think that can be fixed through software. The battery drain issue is one where the dock won't let the tablet sleep correctly, it's a well-known problem that affects some docks (not tablets themselves).
I personally don't have or want a dock, so it wouldn't matter to me except I wouldn't spend as much to get both. I got my TF for $300 used, it was in like-new condition with the box and everything, which is good because I wouldn't have been patient enough to save up much more than that.
I say go for it, then root it and put CWM 3.2.0.1 and Prime 1.8.4 on it. That's just my opinion, of course. You can just leave it stock as well.

Alright, thank you again for the great info! Im not new to android, but new to tablets with ROMS and updates.
He said he bought it a month ago and the screen is perfect and no issues.
I want the dock or at least a BT keyboard because I find typing on tablets a little odd. Plus itll be nice to have the sd card slot and 2 usb ports Im not worried as far as battery- if my phone gets a days worth, dont see how a tablet cant when theres no 3g connection.
Whats the easiest root guide on here? seems a bit confusing with different methods. If I upgrade to the latest OTA (that fixes netflix) which method would I use?

I'd wait.. 425 for a used TF 3 months from when the new TF is supposed to come out... doesn't really seem worth it to me. I mean, I love my TF and everything, but I could definitely use something else for 3 months. Also, after reading about all the build issues and stuff, I'd be worried if my TF was used and I was unable to file a refund or whatnot.

asdfuogh said:
I'd wait.. 425 for a used TF 3 months from when the new TF is supposed to come out... doesn't really seem worth it to me. I mean, I love my TF and everything, but I could definitely use something else for 3 months. Also, after reading about all the build issues and stuff, I'd be worried if my TF was used and I was unable to file a refund or whatnot.
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Where did you read that the TF2 is coming out in November?
Regardless, I think three months is plenty of time to enjoy something, and a long time to wait. And it might be longer. And the first Tegra3 tablet might be loaded with bugs anyway. Might as well have a TF, use it until the TF2 (or something else) is actually released AND tested in the real world. Just my opinion, but I've seen a lot of people drop a lot of money playing the bleeding edge game.
As for rooting, try the one-click method first. If that doesn't work, use the "pure root" which is what I used. I actually don't know much about NVFlash at all, it might be a good alternative, but they all get you where you want to be and I am more comfortable having CWM like my phone has.

I read it was rumored to come to India in October.
3 months would be a long time to wait, and plus if I want to use it for school (taking notes, papers on the fly )
When the first android 3.0 tablet came out, there were a lot of bugs and even the TF at its release was buggy. So I wouldnt doubt if 4.0 tablets or TF2 had bugs. I wonder if the TF2 will be compatible with the keyboard dock now.. At least then I could sell my TF to eat up the cost for the new one.
Edit: Something else I could do and want to get your thoughts on. Buy a new TF off amazon $380ish, I know its new, but it may not be compatible to root. This way I know the battery is in the best shape for me to condition it initally. Then I could just buy a BT keyboard/mouse- both of which would be cheaper than buying the dock. Then again, I'd loose the 2 usbports and sd slot.
Decisions decisions!

The problem with waiting is thus:
1. No matter when you buy there is something better around the corner. When the tf2 releases maybe the iconia 2 or galaxy tab 2 will be a few weeks ago and have a better spec.
2. New released product is usually more buggy. If you wait until a device had been in the market a little while there is a good chance that many bugs or early manufacturing problems will have been sorted. Case in point, the bugged power chips on some transformer builds.
3. Tf2 will be quad core tegra 3. On paper it will be more powerful than tegra 2 but at release time little if any software will be optimized to take advantage of the extra cores. For the first few months of tegra 3 there will be zero advantage to having a tegra 3 device in daily use.
I know all this from experience - I jumped on a dual core phone as soon as they released and right now I cannot notice any speed advantage over my previous single core phone. Because I have a Htc Sensation with the new qhd resolution some apps look messed up because they haven't been optimized for the new display. Got the phone and then realized if id waited a little longer, which would have been fine because it doesn't feel any faster than my old phone, I could have jumped on a nexus prime. Also there are other masters which won't concern all users but for a habitual hacker like me they are annoying. Thing like the fact that no one has really figured out the optimal way to deal with the new dual core architecture yet.
Ok enough ranting about my problems, hopefully I've given you something to think about.
Edit: if you are going to get a bluetooth keyboard instead of a dock, you might wish to consider a different tablet such as the acer iconia - at least then you will get a usb port.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

I went through and bought it yesterday Its really nice thats for sure.
Is there an option that turns off the automatic wake when you open the TF/keyboard?
Also, I didnt like the Iconia. The size is just awkward for me and I couldnt get past the screen, being able to see "grid" with the dots. I do like the usb port on it though, but i have two on the keyboard and SD car slot
Typing on this keyboard is super easy. Still hesitant to root it or not. Not sure if theres the extra incentive to do so.
Now to figure out the market and install apps (find them in the market first)

[Q] Just got a transformer, how to check for common problems

So I got a great deal (I think) at microcenter yesterday for the Transformer ($299). I was actually going out the door with a 16gb Ipad2 but I really had great experiences with asus products (two laptops) so I figured this should be good too.
Lo and behold there seems to be quite a few issues with this particular model (101) and looking at my reciept I have 14 days still to see if I want to go back and get something else (although at this pricepoint ($300-350) my choices are limited). So I was wondering how I check within the time limit for these RRs, battery drains, SODs (?) ? Apparently these problems affect some but not all tablets (is there certain batches that are affected or is this kinda random?). Obviously ICS has it's quirks and software fixes are a normal part of a maturing platform, but hardware issues require RMAs and I don't have the patience for that once my 14 days are up.
Thanks!

I will be absolutely honest with you, walking out the door with an iPad2 is the better choice at the moment, there's far, far too many issues with the TF101 for me to recommend anyone buying it at the moment

Slappy00 said:
So I got a great deal (I think) at microcenter yesterday for the Transformer ($299). I was actually going out the door with a 16gb Ipad2 but I really had great experiences with asus products (two laptops) so I figured this should be good too.
Lo and behold there seems to be quite a few issues with this particular model (101) and looking at my reciept I have 14 days still to see if I want to go back and get something else (although at this pricepoint ($300-350) my choices are limited). So I was wondering how I check within the time limit for these RRs, battery drains, SODs (?) ? Apparently these problems affect some but not all tablets (is there certain batches that are affected or is this kinda random?). Obviously ICS has it's quirks and software fixes are a normal part of a maturing platform, but hardware issues require RMAs and I don't have the patience for that once my 14 days are up.
Thanks!
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>.< the iPad 2 is terrible...you should really have bought the Transformer Pad 300...is like the prime with a different display and without the metallic backplate. Its got the quad core Tegra 3, and isn't crap like the iPad 2. If you really have to buy an iPad, you really should go with the iPad 3.

I'm gonna go against the crowd and say after I rooted and kerneld I had NO problems.

ASUS Build quality issues?

I have been on the market for an Android 10 inch tablet for close to a year. I have watching several of the devices that have come on the market there. I like the iPad for some things but I hate the proprietary nature and many other numerous issues to list.
Back to my original question though
I have been following reviews online and this is probably the 3rd or 4th time that I have seen reviews on Amazon.com or other sites that the ASUS TF700 has some "build quality issues" they have pointed out problems with the tablet making a squeaky noise when pressing on the glass in some areas and it appearing that the "glue is coming loose". I wanted to say that if I'm spending $500+ on a device. I want it to work, and work well, and not have to replace it in a year or less.
Another comment I have seen is that its sluggish when doing "heavy multitasking". I plan to do quite a bit of multitasking on it and wondered what other user's experiences are. I have read that ASUS will release the Jelly Bean update to this device and I would expect that this may help with some of that.
One of the reasons that I'm certainly considering going with the ASUS over the other tablets is that I prefer ASUS devices on other platforms. I have an ASUS laptop that originally came with Windows Vista (that tells you how dated it is). It's probably 4-5 years old at this point and it's still working off the original AC adapter, original battery and it still works flawlessly. I have owned several ASUS motherboards that work perfectly and last.
I wanted your opinions, since you guys are the Android tablet guru's and I've read some of the other posts. Even the one about the squeakiness by the speaker. But I' m wondering if this is a common issue or one to be concerned about.
One last thing is that I noticed there is an Atmel stylus that might be compatible with it. Has anyone purchased and used one yet? If so, what do you think about it? I'm seriously considering the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 as well because of this stylus capability and the 2GB of ram in there. Money is not that much of a problem since I will be using gift cards (like up to $700 worth) to buy it.

Yes, Asus definitely has some quality-control issues, but if you do get a "bad" one, you can always just return it for another. Personally, my TF700 is fine - some minor light bleed on the bottom and right sides, but it's only noticeable at full brightness, which I'll never use anyway. I don't have the clicking/squeaking noise either. I truly believe that most of these issues are very minor and most folks wouldn't even notice them if they weren't looking for them.
Don't let this hold you back from an awesome tablet - that's why they make warranties! My original TF101 is still running great (hardware-wise, at least - ICS is another story!) - never had any hardware issues with it and my wife still uses it daily.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2

I'm surprised. From what I see here, I think I got one of the nicer tablets. My screen has no obvious light bleeds, no dust trapped under the glass, or scratches. The display is bonded firmly and doesn't squeak. I guess it may be potluck with the build quality, but mine is built well.
Like jtrosky said, if you get a bad one, you can exchange it.

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I'm surprised. From what I see here, I think I got one of the nicer tablets. My screen has no obvious light bleeds, no dust trapped under the glass, or scratches. The display is bonded firmly and doesn't squeak. I guess it may be potluck with the build quality, but mine is built well.
Like jtrosky said, if you get a bad one, you can exchange it.
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First one had dust under screen.
Second had huge bright white crater-like defect in center of screen. Really bad defect - can't understand how that passed quality control.
Third one is perfect....so far....

Asus should stay with what they do best..build computers. They sucks with pad, problems after problems. The TF700 is not ready for prime time. They did the 201 and still making too many mistake with the 700. I can named many like, USB,SB card, I/O bottle neck, phone jack volume, noise when pressed on glass, not fitting well with dock..and on and on. I would wait for Samsung Note 10.1.

buhohitr said:
Asus should stay with what they do best..build computers. They sucks with pad, problems after problems. The TF700 is not ready for prime time. They did the 201 and still making too many mistake with the 700. I can named many like, USB,SB card, I/O bottle neck, phone jack volume, noise when pressed on glass, not fitting well with dock..and on and on. I would wait for Samsung Note 10.1.
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But then what would be the alternative: Acer? Apple? Samsung where you're stuck on the same firmware forever?
I think the problem is the separation of design and production these days. These tablets are made by faceless Chinese workers, and then shipped over here. Its not like it used to be where the factory workers and the manufacturer and quality control were all in one place. In fact, do we even know if ASUS ever even sees the tablets after they leave the factory and get shipped to the warehouse?
You should be honored. You're now an ASUS employee - we get to inspect the tablets and return the defective ones - we're quality control technicians!

Digital Man said:
But then what would be the alternative: Acer? Apple? Samsung where you're stuck on the same firmware forever?
I think the problem is the separation of design and production these days. These tablets are made by faceless Chinese workers, and then shipped over here. Its not like it used to be where the factory workers and the manufacturer and quality control were all in one place. In fact, do we even know if ASUS ever even sees the tablets after they leave the factory and get shipped to the warehouse?
You should be honored. You're now an ASUS employee - we get to inspect the tablets and return the defective ones - we're quality control technicians!
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Asus sold the product, they're 100% responsible for their product, doesn't matter how/where they were made. I payed Asus with my own hard working money and I do have the right to complaint when the product is not working as advertise. I will be glad to contribute my free time to test for them for free if they allowed me to have the product for FREE.

buhohitr said:
Asus sold the product, they're 100% responsible for their product, doesn't matter how/where they were made. I payed Asus with my own hard working money and I do have the right to complaint when the product is not working as advertise. I will be glad to contribute my free time to test for them for free if they allowed me to have the product for FREE.
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That sounds nice. But you have to vote with your wallet. And the public already has. People want cheap stuff. The Chinese make cheap stuff. So regardless of weather ASUS is responsible or not, if people continue to buy it, why would ASUS have any reason to change? The days of real premium quality merchandise are over.
Every product on the face of the planet is now made in one place. We chose to abandon our factories and manufacturing facilities. So cheap lower quality stuff is now the norm.

buhohitr said:
Asus sold the product, they're 100% responsible for their product, doesn't matter how/where they were made. I payed Asus with my own hard working money and I do have the right to complaint when the product is not working as advertise. I will be glad to contribute my free time to test for them for free if they allowed me to have the product for FREE.
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I believe that he was just being sarcastic with that last statement!
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2

I was in the same boat as you, waiting for a 10" tablet that I thought fit my needs and was worth the premium we pay for tablet devices.
I was concerned about quality as well. I kept seeing all kinds of stories on the forums (loose glass, dust, light bleed, etc). I ordered from Amazon knowing that it would be easy to return if there was a problem, but mine is just fine and fortunately has none of the problems that some other people have had.
Re: multitasking - I do a lot of multitasking. I usually have it on "balanced" mode and it's super smooth. It slows down a very little bit when I'm updating 2+ apps simultaneously, and the odd occasion where I'm running multiple CPU-intensive apps, but I just switch to "performance" mode for that short period of time and it's back to being snappy.
If you get a bad one, just return it immediately and get a new one. I'm loving this tablet =)

Thanks, I appreciate your input. I think I may end up going with it. We'll see...The samsung note 10.1 doesn't even disclose how much it will cost yet. I'm worried that even $700 may not be enough. I have heard some rumors of around $750. Plus, I don't know how much I would honestly use the Stylus. It would be a fun toy, but not practical for day to day use for me most likely. I'm so used to using touch interfaces all my other android tablet devices and a prior iPhone now anyway.

Keep in mind as well that it'd usually not the happy people that write or speak out. Its often the dissatisfied. There are plenty of happy and satisfied users out there as well.
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Got my T700 a couple weeks ago
I've had enough time to grow accustomed to it and I love it so far. I can see what same are saying about the build quality issues. The glass feels slightly loose in some areas but not so much that it would come apart.

into_311 said:
I've had enough time to grow accustomed to it and I love it so far. I can see what same are saying about the build quality issues. The glass feels slightly loose in some areas but not so much that it would come apart.
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I hope it works out for you. I think this is a terrific tablet (and keyboard dock).

Asus "Best and Worst Tablet Moments"

Starting with The Prime (I'm not including the TF101 and TF300 because they don't invoke the level of controversy, nor do they polarize their owners into "You want to take this discussion outside buddy?" kind of dialog's, the way Asus' shiny metal tablets do.
As far as that polarization, it's obvious that people get quite "intense" over these tablets, for a number of reasons. I have Love/Hate emotions toward my Asus Tablet. I LOVE the device's potential and the look feel (sans defects) of the Infinity. It is indicative of how these affect people that in one Video review out there, the reviewer continuously goes on about how "premium" the Infinity is, and how it is "THE BEST ANDROID TABLET" in the SAME VIDEO he crashes the browser so bad, he can't even get it going again for more than 5 minutes! Then he shows how the tablet has a horrendous creak/clicking/screen separation issue, concluding that "it will probably break in the next few days, and that TWO OTHER ASUS INFINITY TABLETS he has in his possession do the same thing, yet in the same breath says it is so "premium" and has such amazing"Build Quality" compared to the (admittedly) plastic crazy Samsung Note 10.1. I understand what he meant, thats what I mean by POTENTIAL. - If fabricated and constructed properly the Infinity is amazing. The problem? It doesn't happen consistently enough in Asus factories
So, I considered the two extremes I have witnessed over the last year, and these are what I determined were the best and worst moments
Asus' Worst Tablet Moment:
They put the TF201 out there, knowing full well that WiFi reception was compromised, and that GPS was non functional - what, were they hoping that the tablets amazing looks and the fact that wifi worked at all would be enough to overcome the problem? Anyone who defended them came off a jackass because either a) They knew the design was compromised and sold it anyway, or b) They DIDN'T KNOW, which means they sent a product out without testing it. And then the put the whammy on it, with the sneaky, deceptive move of taking down the GPS spec quietly hoping they could get away with it. They didn't. People caught them in the act, and started posting in XDA and elsewhere, and THEN Asus came out with a statement. Tehre is no way they were going to do so if they weren't caught. How do I know? Easy one. Every thing they did up to that point shows they were NOT going to be upfront about the issue. Then they sealed the deal by showing a nice "Fixed Prime"at MWC way back in February when all the early adopters (those people who love your products again, Asus) had all BOUGHT the Prime. HUGE slap in the face to that group, me included. Resulting, eventually in
Asus BEST Tablet Moment
This is, like everything I have posted strictly opinion, but I have some facts to back it up, at least for myself. You can believe what you choose. So most of us caught word the you could take a Prime to your local best Buy, and as long as you actually had a receipt (I think there was an exception or two, but cannot verify) they would hook you up with a shiny new TF700 Transformer Infinity Pad. With a long list of possible defects, build issues and so on and so forth. What a lot of folks do not know is that Asus sponsored that program at Best Buy, and logic dictates that they did a similar deal with Amazon customers. I was amazed, and pleased like others that Best Buy was taking back an 8 month old product, with no special warranty or purchase protection plan (I sure didn't have one) and providing the new product in it's place. Even is pricing matched it was an unprecedented move to all ALL those returns, with so little fuss. A few store/managers fought the tide, but overall a HUGE number of people got new product, if all the posts are to be believed. Personally, I believe them; here's: why
While returning my 7th Infinity (Update: I still have the 8th one. Not because I ever achieved "perfection" but because I got a middle ground "acceptable" tablet in each area and that has no glaring, stand out kind of issues.) I was something on the Best Buy screen to this effect: "Exchange for current model - OK per manufacturer" That one line leads me to think that Asus, having enough embarasment and bad will from the Prime/Infinity conundrum, has chosen to quitely buy back, or rather exchange the problem child for the new model. Again, just my opinion, but it does make a lot of sense, don't you think?
The funny part? When the Prime owners started posting, and even petitioning Asus to "Replace my Prime with an Infinity" they were told to stop being ridiculous. Asus is NOT going to do that, ever. I assume they considered options like replacing the back shell of all the Primes, but the cost or recalling and rebuilding was prohibitive (and imagine what a colossal mess THAT would have been; Asus can't even handle normal RMA's never-mind mass refurbing like that!) ​

I remember that time... It was a rollercoaster ride being for us who fell in the so called minority. But thank god the "minority" had enough voice to get Asus to quietly do the right thing. Too bad for the other Best buy and Amazon customers who purchased a defective prime and do not know about XDA, but I guess its the price for not being updated on their tablets. It was rather an easy transaction too returning the prime as did on Oct 11, I even had a geek squad lady on the customer service (under staffed I guess) and all she had to do was check the computer and she told me a giftcard or exchange. It was exchanged for an infinity, still had it light bleeds and had to manually update still dont know if it was the server on the tablet at fault (but others here had similar issues on that day). Well see how the inifinity will pan out, but i doubt well ever see Asus doing an exchange like they did with the prime since they fixed the GPS and wifi issue that was a major complaint of the prime.

junrider said:
I remember that time... It was a rollercoaster ride being for us who fell in the so called minority. But thank god the "minority" had enough voice to get Asus to quietly do the right thing. Too bad for the other Best buy and Amazon customers who purchased a defective prime and do not know about XDA, but I guess its the price for not being updated on their tablets. It was rather an easy transaction too returning the prime as did on Oct 11, I even had a geek squad lady on the customer service (under staffed I guess) and all she had to do was check the computer and she told me a giftcard or exchange. It was exchanged for an infinity, still had it light bleeds and had to manually update still dont know if it was the server on the tablet at fault (but others here had similar issues on that day). Well see how the inifinity will pan out, but i doubt well ever see Asus doing an exchange like they did with the prime since they fixed the GPS and wifi issue that was a major complaint of the prime.
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Indeed - they really did the right thing at least in the BB replacement deal. Think about it, best Buy is a mess, and they do have issues, but no way were they going to foot the bill for all those tablets, without even having the Purchase Protection that they sell. I saw every person that tried got a new tablet, so again, I know Asus was involved from what I saw on the screen. Asus also knows that the major upset audience was the folks on the forums, and those are the ones they ended up replacing, so it works out pretty good for all. This has been going for months now, and as you saw it is still in effect.
One other thing on the Infinity, Yes GPS works well, but WiFi is also like 5 times that bandwidth of the Prime. Range is not the best device I own, but range is also decent. You probably noticed that the trick they used on the Prime - cranking the hell out of WiFi is still in place on Infinity. Look at battery statistics and often it is using more than the screen, which being HD is a huge drain itself. I think they reasoned that since it helped the Prime, it would show that they REALLY fixed reception on Infinity, LOL! Finally, the HD screen has proven to be a mixed blessing. It really is hard to distinguish in Movies and photos unless you zoom WAY in, but Text of all things looks amazing. All the reviewers and folks that INSIST this is needed and necessary, also cannot say exactly WHY it is a "Must Have" They HATED that the Note 10.1 is 1200x800 when last year that was an "Amazing experience" Honestly, it DOES look amazing,and the HD is awesome, but it's Asus incredible Back-lighting that makes it truly shine (Pun intended) It can just go so BRIGHT. The downside? A number of Games are not compatible and may not ever be, since the developers don't see enough devices to justify the rework for HD. SIMS Free Play is one example, I could play it on Prime, but not in Infinity. Not that much if a deal. After over a month with the Infinity, I will say, I am glad I upgraded and did not go for the Note 10.1 (I have a Note Phone, so it did not "wow" me and the plastic Tab does not compare to Asus on look and feel. It's MOSTLY fixed... JB is good. I/O will probably always remain the one major FAIL for Asus. they have the issue on every tablet they make to some degree, with the Nexus 7 being effected the least, and the Prime & TF300 probably the most.

For my own use I switch from infinity to the note due to I/O issues and crackling speaker. I was overall satisfied even without the FHD. The prime I switched out for the infinity the other day was my cousin's that I had bought for him. I compared the wifi side by side and the note had a good 10dB over the infinity, but the infinity was indeed better than the prime. I get to play with his infinity every other day just to make sure there isnt any problems to suit his needs, I have yet to try out the bluetooth on his inifinity on JB, since that was one of my dissatisfaction with the infinity I exchanged.

SERIOUS WARNING about ASUS & the TF700T

I want to alert people to the danger of buying products from Asus. They are poorly made and if anything goes wrong, you are screwed. Read some of the 1-star reviews on Amazon for the TF700T (which I am returning), and check out these links:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-russnow/asus-computer-products-cu_b_793608.html
http://www.customerservicescoreboard.com/Asus
http://www.bbb.org/greater-san-fran...us-computer-international-in-fremont-ca-16870
The Huffington Post article is a horror story of customer support that links to many similar stories. The Customer Service Scoreboard site has 856 descriptions of customer service encounters with Asus. 757 of these (88.2%) are negative. And they are not generic - read them. They are specific, and there is a theme. Many of them have pitiful canned responses from Asus.
The BBB has issued an alert for Asus, saying, "We have identified a pattern of complaints concerning service issues. Complaints processed by BBB claim that 1) products sent to the company for repairs are still not working properly when returned to the consumer." Their most recent review of the complaints was January 14, 2013.
It's a shame because the specs for the TF700T looked so good, but I have not enjoyed actually using this machine. Nothing quite works right. I'm sick of the browser crashes. I'm sick of running out of memory. And now my battery meter doesn't work after just 4 months. Maybe I could find a way to recalibrate it, but I'm sick of the problems. I'm finding I don't want to use it - it's just aggravating. I'm not alone in these problems. There are reports of these same issues with the TF700T all over the internet. Since I've learned that Asus does not honor their warranties, I decided to return it to Amazon before it really breaks. It's outside the 30-day window so I won't get a full refund, but hopefully I'll get most of my money back. I did a hard reset and boxed it up.
I wish I'd never bought it. If you haven't bought one yet, I suggest you don't.

Many of their BBB reports are from the early days of the Prime tablet. You think you have isues with your device now, it's nothing compared to the problems that the prime suffered. They tried to fix thing with the gps dongle and were issuing refunds months after purchase if you got lucky. I accept that this is a mobile device and not going to have the full abilities of a laptop or desktop. Technology is advancing but still not totally there yet. If it takes a few seconds longer to load something I'm not going to let it ruin my life like my lollipop was stolen. Maybe that is why the lag does't bother me and I don't notice it.
I've owned multiple Asus produts including laptops and motherboards. When I've had an issue they fixed it with no problem. Every product has people who are not happy with it and there are far more positive reviews and pleased owners of this tablet than hurt bitter ones. Yes it has it faults but for the average owner this machine works fine and may not notice small moments of lag. Power users like those who know XDA may never be fully satisified with any product (in my oppinion). We are into pushing our tablets to higher levels than intended and customizing things. When something new and shiny gets released we upgrade to the new hardware and find new things to be angry with.
Test your luck with other brands. I'm sure they have faults which may or may not bother you. Good luck getting a refund.

Asus makes solid products. The tf700t had Its ups and downs, but I digress. My nexus 7 on the other hand... solid device. No problems whatsoever. They have iffy customer support. Just need to talk to the right people. All in all, their a good company
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I want to alert people to the danger of buying products from Asus. They are poorly made and if anything goes wrong, you are screwed. Read some of the 1-star reviews on Amazon for the TF700T (which I am returning), and check out these links:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-russnow/asus-computer-products-cu_b_793608.html
http://www.customerservicescoreboard.com/Asus
http://www.bbb.org/greater-san-fran...us-computer-international-in-fremont-ca-16870
The Huffington Post article is a horror story of customer support that links to many similar stories. The Customer Service Scoreboard site has 856 descriptions of customer service encounters with Asus. 757 of these (88.2%) are negative. And they are not generic - read them. They are specific, and there is a theme. Many of them have pitiful canned responses from Asus.
The BBB has issued an alert for Asus, saying, "We have identified a pattern of complaints concerning service issues. Complaints processed by BBB claim that 1) products sent to the company for repairs are still not working properly when returned to the consumer." Their most recent review of the complaints was January 14, 2013.
It's a shame because the specs for the TF700T looked so good, but I have not enjoyed actually using this machine. Nothing quite works right. I'm sick of the browser crashes. I'm sick of running out of memory. And now my battery meter doesn't work after just 4 months. Maybe I could find a way to recalibrate it, but I'm sick of the problems. I'm finding I don't want to use it - it's just aggravating. I'm not alone in these problems. There are reports of these same issues with the TF700T all over the internet. Since I've learned that Asus does not honor their warranties, I decided to return it to Amazon before it really breaks. It's outside the 30-day window so I won't get a full refund, but hopefully I'll get most of my money back. I did a hard reset and boxed it up.
I wish I'd never bought it. If you haven't bought one yet, I suggest you don't.
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Oh, I'm quivering with fear!
My Infinity works great, always has. So does my Asus netbook.

permutations said:
It's a shame because the specs for the TF700T looked so good, but I have not enjoyed actually using this machine. Nothing quite works right. I'm sick of the browser crashes. I'm sick of running out of memory. And now my battery meter doesn't work after just 4 months. Maybe I could find a way to recalibrate it, but I'm sick of the problems. I'm finding I don't want to use it - it's just aggravating. I'm not alone in these problems. There are reports of these same issues with the TF700T all over the internet. Since I've learned that Asus does not honor their warranties, I decided to return it to Amazon before it really breaks. It's outside the 30-day window so I won't get a full refund, but hopefully I'll get most of my money back. I did a hard reset and boxed it up.
I wish I'd never bought it. If you haven't bought one yet, I suggest you don't.
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I haven't had any problems with my Infinity I am rooted and stock with just bloatware disabled.

BTrack said:
Oh, I'm quivering with fear!
My Infinity works great, always has. So does my Asus netbook.
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+1:good:

Sure the TF700T had its software problem but it's getting better with each update.

Breathe, now step back from the ledge. There you go. It'll be ok.
I have owned a TF101, TF300, an now own a TF700 and a Nexus 7. Not to mention a G75 laptop, 3 ASUS motherboards and 2 ASUS video cards. I have not had any problems with any of them. (and i have gotten some good CS from them as well) I agree with previous posts saying that a lot of those complaints were stemming from the first Prime release (which genuinely had issues).
In my opinion they make just as good or better quality products as there is out there right now. Of course that is just my .02

My observation is that it's hit or miss with Asus products. Sometimes they work great, and sometimes they break prematurely. When they break, you can have big problems. I've read MANY reports of people sending in the TF700T for warranty repair and not getting it back for months, and not getting replies from Customer Service. When the machines did come back, the problems usually weren't fixed. The BBB assessment was updated on January 14, 2013 and the complaints were the same - long delays in getting machines back, and when they came back, the problems remained. So it's not just the Prime.
I loved my TF700T when I first got it - awesome display, loved the dock, etc. But there is something wrong with the memory management. Android isn't supposed to run out like that. My phone doesn't (Motorola Droid X Maxx HD). And the constantly hanging and crashing browsers - reported all over the internet - drove me nuts because I mainly use it for browsing the internet. I tried more than 5 different browsers - all had the same problem. I read a thread in this forum where someone discovered it was related to the TF700T's unusually slow I/O performance. Browsers are heavy users of I/O and memory. The TF700T, besides its memory management bugs, has only 1GB of RAM. I wish it had 2GB.
When the battery meter stopped working (all battery meter apps - the TF700T was reporting its battery level incorrectly) and my first efforts at recalibration didn't work, I went to the Asus site to inquire about customer service and/or warranty support. Their Web site is broken in several places. You can't get a list of local authorized service centers, for example - try it. Plus the Web site is in broken English, and and the support parts are unprofessional and not very confidence-inspiring. I'd already heard some complaints about warranty service problems, so that made me nervous. That's when I started looking at the 1-star Amazon.com reviews and found the links to the BBB alert, extremely low customer service scores, tales of horror, etc.
Others have reported problems with broken pins in the connector to the dock (it's plastic and delicate), and cracks in the casing around the screen - lots of reports of these.
For me, the TF700T was not usable because of the memory management problems and browser stalls/crashes. For someone using it mainly for other things, these problems might not matter so much. The quality control and customer support/warranty problems were the last straw.
I know many people are happy with their Nexus 7's, which are made by Asus. I'm told Google warrants this, so the risk is lower. I'm looking at the Nexus 10, which is made by Samsung.
I'm not comfortable with Asus quality control. They cut corners in places, using some high-end components and some very cheap components. The slow I/O on the TF700T is a case-in-point. I'm even more uncomfortable with Asus customer service and warranty support. It's all very hit or miss. Some people are lucky and their machines hold up, and some are not. Some luck out with customer service and some don't. I don't want to do business with a company like this. If it doesn't bother you, then fine. I'm just posting the warning for those who don't like high-risk purchasing. To each his own.

Have you updated your TF700? I used to get browser crashes and memory problems on earlier firmware builds but they all went away with updates.
Running stock, locked, but rooted fyi

But you're being the boy who cried wolf.
ASUS isn't the only manufacturer by any means who has some products with shortcomings. Nothing is perfect. I am WAY more than pleased with my TF700 and I had one of the first ones available. I haven't had many of the physical problems others have reported and I'm hard on my equipment, mine is all scratched and beat up lookin already but it's completely solid build quality and I wouldn't trade it for anything else, especially with its 1920x1200 screen and bright backlight and awesome viewing angles.
You can fix all the problems you complain about yourself by just unlocking it and flashing something else like CleanROM Inheritance 3.2
the i/o problem isn't all in the memory chips. I assure you. mine is smooth as butter and very fast. hell, just try rooting and installing browser2ram. work around it.
I don't have stock software on ANY computing device I own. NONE of them. I even flashed the ECU in my goddamn Jeep!
stop being a *****, buy the hardware you want and then make it do what you want it to do, but don't make a blanket statement about a company that has been producing some of the most advanced hardware out there for DECADES. They're not fly by night, they're just not american, and they don't wanna take the time/money to train a bunch of stupid americans to deal with their stupid problems.

What exactly was the point of this post? You would have gotten more mileage on the Tf201 forum.

Oh goody another TF700T trash this tablet\ASUS thread.
Just chiming in to say I'm very happy...so glad I came to XDA to find answers and help.
Which has come in bucket loads from users of this tablet that have worked with diligence to make things right.
Most of those one star reviews on AMAZON are from out of box buyers whining about flash or general confusion about Android.
I see this thread going in a bad direction.

I had purchased the TF Prime from Best Buy, after all the issues I had with it, they replaced it (free of charge) with the TF700. Other than losing root with the last OTA (bootloader still locked), I have had no problems with it. Plus, Best Buy said they'd honor the 1 year warranty of the TF700 starting from when I got it, not from the original Prime purchase .

Cheapxj said:
Nothing is perfect.
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Amen.
I am WAY more than pleased with my TF700 and I had one of the first ones available.
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Me too.
I haven't had many of the physical problems others have reported and I'm hard on my equipment, mine is all scratched and beat up lookin already but it's completely solid build quality and I wouldn't trade it for anything else, especially with its 1920x1200 screen and bright backlight and awesome viewing angles.
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I love it as well, although I pamper them (it did take a few scratches on the second day, right before my case arrived by mail order.
You can fix all the problems you complain about yourself by just unlocking it and flashing something else like CleanROM Inheritance 3.2
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You're talking software here, and in that sense, I wholeheartedly agree, but..
permutations said:
Others have reported problems with broken pins in the connector to the dock (it's plastic and delicate)
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I'm in this boat. The tablet has hardly ever left the dock, and still, both pins snapped off. ASUS CS instantly claims user-induced damage -- as I said, I am very careful with my devices, and I have several ancient ones laying around to prove it -- which is totally and utterly bull.
If it were not for the battery in the dock, I would have considered going another manufacturer route soon, but it's just too good the way it is, even with the ****ty CS. I might go Samsung next time, dunno.
For now, I'm just going the DIY route: tape the tablet inside the dock and use it like a darned laptop with immense battery life. Wish me luck.

originalnabisco said:
Have you updated your TF700? I used to get browser crashes and memory problems on earlier firmware builds but they all went away with updates.
Running stock, locked, but rooted fyi
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I, too, was running stock, locked, but rooted. I upgraded to JB briefly, but then downgraded back to ICS. Quite a few programs I need and/or like don't run on JB - notably, the volume booster programs. I could barely hear many YouTube videos without a volume booster utility. This was the main thing occupying my mind at the time I was running JB, but I don't remember the memory or browser problems going away, and I would have noticed that. I've read complaints about memory and browser problems from other people running JB.
My main concern is that Asus hardware is often a mix of good quality components with some very weak links, causing it to malfunction prematurely, and Asus doesn't properly honor their warranty a very large percentage of the time. I know that many people here couldn't care less about that. Once you unlock your device, you void the warranty anyway. Since this is Unlock Central, probably this was the wrong site in which to post this warning. I just like this site and learn a lot from it, so I thought I was giving something back. I didn't anticipate I'd be attacked for my post.
To the person who told me I'm the "boy who cried wolf" and I should "stop being a *****"... Um... first of all, I was born a "*****". I'm a middle aged woman, not a boy. You, on the other hand, sound like a pimple-faced 14-year-old. Second, perhaps you don't care about your hardware being under warranty, but I do. I root my Droids, but I choose not to unlock them.
To all who love Asus and don't care about the many quality, customer service, and warranty complaints, just ignore my warning and move on. Enjoy your TF700T. I have returned mine to Amazon.com. And that's all I have to say about this.

permutations said:
I, too, was running stock, locked, but rooted. I upgraded to JB briefly, but then downgraded back to ICS. Quite a few programs I need and/or like don't run on JB - notably, the volume booster programs. I could barely hear many YouTube videos without a volume booster utility. This was the main thing occupying my mind at the time I was running JB, but I don't remember the memory or browser problems going away, and I would have noticed that. I've read complaints about memory and browser problems from other people running JB.
My main concern is that Asus hardware is often a mix of good quality components with some very weak links, causing it to malfunction prematurely, and Asus doesn't properly honor their warranty a very large percentage of the time. I know that many people here couldn't care less about that. Once you unlock your device, you void the warranty anyway. Since this is Unlock Central, probably this was the wrong site in which to post this warning. I just like this site and learn a lot from it, so I thought I was giving something back. I didn't anticipate I'd be attacked for my post.
To the person who told me I'm the "boy who cried wolf" and I should "stop being a *****"... Um... first of all, I was born a "*****". I'm a middle aged woman, not a boy. You, on the other hand, sound like a pimple-faced 14-year-old. Second, perhaps you don't care about your hardware being under warranty, but I do. I root my Droids, but I choose not to unlock them.
To all who love Asus and don't care about the many quality, customer service, and warranty complaints, just ignore my warning and move on. Enjoy your TF700T. I have returned mine to Amazon.com. And that's all I have to say about this.
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Insulting or not the comments hit the nail so to speak.
You must expect a bit of a thrashing when treading on a choice that many others have made who are more than pleased with it's performance.
I consider this forum a place providing resolution versus my tablet gave me a boo-boo and it hurt.
You have made the best decision returning your tablet, yet posting here about how it wasn't a good choice for you seems irrelevant to me.
The best of luck to you on your next choice.

Thats OK said:
Insulting or not the comments hit the nail so to speak.
You must expect a bit of a thrashing when treading on a choice that many others have made who are more than pleased with it's performance.
I consider this forum a place providing resolution versus my tablet gave me a boo-boo and it hurt.
You have made the best decision returning your tablet, yet posting here about how it wasn't a good choice for you seems irrelevant to me.
The best of luck to you on your next choice.
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Funny...not the problems people have, or the issues with Asus support...but how much energy and empathy we put into metallic devices that become throw away in a few years. If we put that much energy and attention to detail into a hard critique of our own lives and societal ills...how much better off we would all be...
I think the TF700 is a usable, attractive appliance that offers a decent, but not exceptional value. It is a transitional device- a hybrid tablet/net/ultra book type of device that is probably better than the Microsoft Surface RT- but really is for only light productivity use- that is use beyond content consumption. I like it, but it is just a cold, metallic appliance. It's real value is in the humans that designed it, produced it and do amazing things with it...
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Thats OK said:
Insulting or not the comments hit the nail so to speak.
You must expect a bit of a thrashing when treading on a choice that many others have made who are more than pleased with it's performance.
I consider this forum a place providing resolution versus my tablet gave me a boo-boo and it hurt.
You have made the best decision returning your tablet, yet posting here about how it wasn't a good choice for you seems irrelevant to me.
The best of luck to you on your next choice.
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Where did you get the idea that it's ever okay to be rude and insulting - "thrash" someone who is trying to be helpful?
I was not criticizing anyone else's choice, and I was not complaining about problems I had that are of no relevance to anyone else.
I was sharing information about Asus that many people thinking about buying a TF700T will find interesting and relevant. That may not be you. Perhaps you've already made a purchase and you're happy with it. Or perhaps, like many here, you unlock your tablet and void the warranty anyway, so it's not relevant to you for that reason. But you are not everybody. Many people care about warranties, and many people visit this site before making buying decisions. I do. I was talking to them.
And to the people who counter my warning about Asus with, "Not true because it didn't happen to me", I say, you are a sample of one. Please read the links I posted. Thousands of people have reported problems. There's an alert on Asus from the BBB from just 2 weeks ago. This is a real issue. That doesn't mean that 100% of people experience dreadful warranty service from Asus, but the percentage is unacceptably high, much higher than other companies. They also have a reputation for using some really cheap components here and there in otherwise high-end machines, causing them to malfunction or break down prematurely. If you don't want to believe it, don't. If this is irrelevant to you, move on. If you'd like to know more about it, read the links I posted in the first message.

ok, I'll be nice, these threads are getting old, had you used the SEARCH function I'm sure you would have found at LEAST a dozen threads of the same nature, someone calling ASUS terrible because they didn't do their research before a purchase.
I made the assumption that since you've been around XDA for a few years you might have known to do that BEFORE posting.
oh, and for the record, Having a *****, and BEING a ***** are two very different things, and not mutually exclusive. I pegged you for some kid that bought a toy that they couldn't really afford. I wasn't picking a gender, but the old fable isn't "The girl who cried wolf"
If you're already rooting devices, you are SERIOUSLY missing out by not unlocking them. Rooting lets you "repaint" the walls, unlocking lets you blow them down, rearrange the floor plan and tack an addition on the back.
Get where I'm coming from? We build the additions here.
Now I'm going to take my fat balding alcoholic nerdy ass outside and go finish this bottle of Jameson before I stop being nice after a hard day of babysitting young "professionals" on the job who think they know everything because they spent four years in college and three months actually working. That stuff gets to you after a while.