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Phone died afeter bootloop

Hi,
i've do an error with sense 5 rom flash.
I have rebooted the phone before flashing boot.img. I have try to put the one x in fastboot or recovery mode but nothing (this phone have very **** keys). After I shot down phone but now don't start. If I connect to charger red light works, same at PC. Windows recognize phone as HTC mtp devices and show me unity letter but i can't do nothing.
Battery 70%.
Any ideas?
Thank's

Sv22 said:
Hi,
i've do an error with sense 5 rom flash.
I have rebooted the phone before flashing boot.img. I have try to put the one x in fastboot or recovery mode but nothing (this phone have very **** keys). After I shot down phone but now don't start. If I connect to charger red light works, same at PC. Windows recognize phone as HTC mtp devices and show me unity letter but i can't do nothing.
Battery 70%.
Any ideas?
Thank's
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If you're phone is read as an mtp device that means it's not dead and the rom is loaded. The screen is black I take it and won't come on?
reboot to bootloader
either using adb (adb reboot bootloader)
or
manually (hold power button until capacitive buttons blink a bunch of times and the phone shuts off then let go of power and press and hold volume until bootloader comes on)
If you still can't see the screen while in bootloader, then your screen is dead.

exad said:
If you're phone is read as an mtp device that means it's not dead and the rom is loaded. The screen is black I take it and won't come on?
reboot to bootloader
either using adb (adb reboot bootloader)
or
manually (hold power button until capacitive buttons blink a bunch of times and the phone shuts off then let go of power and press and hold volume until bootloader comes on.
If you still can't see the screen while in bootloader, then your screen is dead.
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yes, my phone is read but on the control panel there is a yellow icon on driver. and if I push keys phone do nothing

Sv22 said:
yes, my phone is read but on the control panel there is a yellow icon on driver. and if I push keys phone do nothing
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ok.. did you try what I posted above?

exad said:
ok.. did you try what I posted above?
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yes, but nothing. ADB show me list devices blank, fastboot no devices.....mmhhhh....I have no word. This morning was alive...

today I have turned on the phone in bootloop.
I have volume down key was not working. Any ideas?

Sv22 said:
today I have turned on the phone in bootloop.
I have volume down key was not working. Any ideas?
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Are you saying the buttons are actually not working properly?
MTP mode plays havoc with adb, and sometimes fastboot. Of course, if you are not able to access recovery, adb, or fastboot, you are in a very tough spot.
Is the device S-off or S-on?

redpoint73 said:
Are you saying the buttons are actually not working properly?
MTP mode plays havoc with adb, and sometimes fastboot. Of course, if you are not able to access recovery, adb, or fastboot, you are in a very tough spot.
Is the device S-off or S-on?
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my devices is s-on.
I hate this kind of situation. Very comic......

[Q] How do I get to the bootloader screen

I tried getting to the bootloader screen on my HTC One M8. I turned it off, wait 5 seconds, then hold power down, and press power for 2-3 seconds, while still holding volume down. It never gets to the bootloader screen. It always does a regular boot.
Don't know if this matters, but I did root with WeakSauce successfully.

adb reboot bootloader

oneandroidnut said:
adb reboot bootloader
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Haven't tried that yet. So there's no way to do it without plugging in to a PC? I thought it should work on the device too.

itkowitz said:
Haven't tried that yet. So there's no way to do it without plugging in to a PC? I thought it should work on the device too.
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I believe you have to turn off fast boot in Settings->Power and then you can do it by holding the volume down and power buttons at the same time.

shortstuff_mt said:
I believe you have to turn off fast boot in Settings->Power and then you can do it by holding the volume down and power buttons at the same time.
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That worked! Thanks.

Working............ Thanks

Hard Bricked T-Mobile Z3, Doesn't turn on at all

I have T-Mobile Z3 (D6616) that I rooted and flashed TWRP on with no issues. Today I tried to flash ZyxxOS on it. after wiping and installing I went to reboot. The phone only powered off and then no matter what I do will not power on. I've tried all the button combos, LED's don't flash, I used the little yellow button by the sim, nothing.
If there is anything I can add let me know and I'll try to help to the best of my abilities.
thanks, Nathan
EDIT: If anyone can help me to the point that the phone boots or is completely fixed, I'll buy you a 6 pack of beer (or soda if you're too young to drink)
EDIT2: I let the phone charge all night and now (still plugged in) the notification LED is glowing red

Try to boot into Fastboot mode by holding the volume up then plug in the usb into your phone, if it detects then use the sony tool to reflash your firmware and it should work. If fastboot doesnt detect then I don't know what else to say.

serophia said:
Try to boot into Fastboot mode by holding the volume up then plug in the usb into your phone, if it detects then use the sony tool to reflash your firmware and it should work. If fastboot doesnt detect then I don't know what else to say.
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Yeah it doesn't respond to anything. I've tried loading into fastboot, even holding all the button combos for a whole minute.

nathanmcneil said:
Yeah it doesn't respond to anything. I've tried loading into fastboot, even holding all the button combos for a whole minute.
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Read these two threads and try it out. It may or may not work but its worth a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849170
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37844592&postcount=317

nathanmcneil said:
I have T-Mobile Z3 (D6616) that I rooted and flashed TWRP on with no issues. Today I tried to flash ZyxxOS on it. after wiping and installing I went to reboot. The phone only powered off and then no matter what I do will not power on. I've tried all the button combos, LED's don't flash, I used the little yellow button by the sim, nothing.
If there is anything I can add let me know and I'll try to help to the best of my abilities.
thanks, Nathan
EDIT: If anyone can help me to the point that the phone boots or is completely fixed, I'll buy you a 6 pack of beer (or soda if you're too young to drink)
EDIT2: I let the phone charge all night and now (still plugged in) the notification LED is glowing red
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How long did you hold the reset button for? I had the same issue with a z2 tablet and I had to hold the button for at least 2 minutes.

Yes nathan,try to do this what @BladeRunner says:hold buttons for mor time.
Do you tried flash phone with flashtool?
Послато са SM-G901F уз помоћ Тапатока

Allek84 said:
Yes nathan,try to do this what @BladeRunner says:hold buttons for mor time.
Do you tried flash phone with flashtool?
Послато са SM-G901F уз помоћ Тапатока
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So I left the phone on the (wall) charger all night and when I woke up the notification light was red. I hit volume down +power and the phone vibrated 3 times but nothing else happened. After that I tried connecting it to flash tool with a rubberband on the volume up botton. Flashtool's notification screen thing kept repeating "phone connected adb disabled" and then "device disconnected". I let it do that for about an hour before I took it off and put it back on the charger.
Should I still try and reset it by holding it for a few minutes? I read the softbrick thread linked above but i'm not sure what I should do or where my situation fits into that thread.
thanks, Nathan

nathanmcneil said:
So I left the phone on the (wall) charger all night and when I woke up the notification light was red. I hit volume down +power and the phone vibrated 3 times but nothing else happened. After that I tried connecting it to flash tool with a rubberband on the volume up botton. Flashtool's notification screen thing kept repeating "phone connected adb disabled" and then "device disconnected". I let it do that for about an hour before I took it off and put it back on the charger.
Should I still try and reset it by holding it for a few minutes? I read the softbrick thread linked above but i'm not sure what I should do or where my situation fits into that thread.
thanks, Nathan
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wwouldn't you connect it to the flash tool with volume button down? That might at least get it into flashmode.

BladeRunner said:
wwouldn't you connect it to the flash tool with volume button down? That might at least get it into flashmode.
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I tried that, leaving it with flashtool waiting to connect and my phone connected with a rubberband on the volume down overnight last night. Nothing happened and now flashtool didn't even recognize the phone.

nathanmcneil said:
I tried that, leaving it with flashtool waiting to connect and my phone connected with a rubberband on the volume down overnight last night. Nothing happened and now flashtool didn't even recognize the phone.
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Try this, open up flashtool and select your firmware, then click on the flash icon, after you clicked flash hold the volume down while connecting the usb cable and see if it the led changes from red to green/blue. Also what version of flashtool are you using? Maybe thats why its not detecting via the rubberband method. Also give this a go as well:
Recovery Mode:
Turn off the device
Press and hold Volume UP + Volume Down Key
then Press and hold Power key while pressing these keys
then press Camera key to enter Android System Recovery
Release all key when you see Android icon

serophia said:
Try this, open up flashtool and select your firmware, then click on the flash icon, after you clicked flash hold the volume down while connecting the usb cable and see if it the led changes from red to green/blue. Also what version of flashtool are you using? Maybe thats why its not detecting via the rubberband method. Also give this a go as well:
Recovery Mode:
Turn off the device
Press and hold Volume UP + Volume Down Key
then Press and hold Power key while pressing these keys
then press Camera key to enter Android System Recovery
Release all key when you see Android icon
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im using version 0.9.19.8 but I am updating to 0.9.19.10 right now to see if that changes anything. Also how do I know if it's off? the phone doesn't do anything when i hit the power button.

nathanmcneil said:
im using version 0.9.19.8 but I am updating to 0.9.19.10 right now to see if that changes anything. Also how do I know if it's off? the phone doesn't do anything when i hit the power button.
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If you plug in your charging cable and a red led is on that means it is powered off. So just try the button combination I have mentioned and hope it boots into stock recovery to try a factory reset.

serophia said:
If you plug in your charging cable and a red led is on that means it is powered off. So just try the button combination I have mentioned and hope it boots into stock recovery to try a factory reset.
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I did the rubber band trick with the new flashtool, and the flashtool log just says,
device connected with USB debugging disabled
for 2011 devices line, make sure you are not in MTP mode
device disconnected
I get this over and over and it has been like this pretty much all day.
*EDIT: i held down power and volume down for a really long time this time and the led blinks red 3 times while I hold the buttons down.*

nathanmcneil said:
I did the rubber band trick with the new flashtool, and the flashtool log just says,
device connected with USB debugging disabled
for 2011 devices line, make sure you are not in MTP mode
device disconnected
I get this over and over and it has been like this pretty much all day.
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Darn, not much you can do since USB Debugging is disabled. Also is PC companion running the same time as Flashtool? That can conflict with it. If they are both running make sure to close PC companion and give it another go. Three red blinks means the battery is drained completely, but you said you charged it overnight. hmmmmm.....
EDIT: Leave it charging using original cable + wall charger for 10-30 minutes, after that unplug from wall charger with cable still intact then hold volume up and plug to PC and hope you see the Flashmode LED.

serophia said:
Darn, not much you can do since USB Debugging is disabled. Also is PC companion running the same time as Flashtool? That can conflict with it. If they are both running make sure to close PC companion and give it another go. Three red blinks means the battery is drained completely, but you said you charged it overnight. hmmmmm.....
EDIT: Leave it charging using original cable + wall charger for 10-30 minutes, after that unplug from wall charger with cable still intact then hold volume up and plug to PC and hope you see the Flashmode LED.
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So I tried that and just got the same thing as before, with the "device connected with USB Debugging disabled." is there anything we can do to try and re-enable usb debugging in the phones current state?

nathanmcneil said:
So I tried that and just got the same thing as before, with the "device connected with USB Debugging disabled." is there anything we can do to try and re-enable usb debugging in the phones current state?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/help/sony-xperia-z3-hard-bricked-t3026373
Try these methods, if still no luck your last option is to send it in for repair

hard bricked my MT-TL10

Hi there,
Kindly help... I successfully installed B512 on my TL10 using force upgrade method, afterwhich I changed recovery to TWRP 3.0.2 using mobopx v2.2, which was also successful. And then I installed SuperSU 2.46 via TWRP, then cleared cache/dalvik. But upon rebooting system, I get a blank screen, even after waiting for more than 15 minutes.
And so I tried going to TWRP (Vol+ and power), which was successful, in order to boot to bootloader, with the intention of loading back the stock bootloader via adb, so that I can force install B512 from my microSD card again. It seemed to install fine...
However, at this point, I cannot reboot to bootloader (Vol- and power) anymore, I only get blank screen. Trying recovery (Vol+ and power) doesn't work either. Rebooting normally gives me the same. I cannot by any means connect via adb now.
Is there any way to unbrick my phone at this point?
Thanks so much. Cheers.

Works entrance for the recovery (Vol+ and Vol- and Power)?

rakrakrak said:
Works entrance for the recovery (Vol+ and Vol- and Power)?
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No bro...

eusagc said:
However, at this point, I cannot reboot to bootloader (Vol- and power) anymore, I only get blank screen. Trying recovery (Vol+ and power) doesn't work either. Rebooting normally gives me the same. I cannot by any means connect via adb now.
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What happens when you do a Vol up + power?

CloudCompute said:
What happens when you do a Vol up + power?[/QU
The phone "doesn't want to turn off" bro. It has fully discharged, but as soon as I plug the charger in, it immediately powers up. When it does, now it shows the Huawei logo. But it's stuck there, and if I press the power button for a few secs, it will power down, but immediately power up again...
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eusagc said:
CloudCompute said:
What happens when you do a Vol up + power?[/QU
The phone "doesn't want to turn off" bro. It has fully discharged, but as soon as I plug the charger in, it immediately powers up. When it does, now it shows the Huawei logo. But it's stuck there, and if I press the power button for a few secs, it will power down, but immediately power up again...
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Let it get fully charged first. Then remove the charger and keep the Vol up and power button pressed for ~10 secs or more, and see where it takes you.
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CloudCompute said:
eusagc said:
Let it get fully charged first. Then remove the charger and keep the Vol up and power button pressed for ~10 secs or more, and see where it takes you.
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Ok dude, will do. Thanks!
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CloudCompute said:
eusagc said:
Let it get fully charged first. Then remove the charger and keep the Vol up and power button pressed for ~10 secs or more, and see where it takes you.
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Done bro. Although I must say, I'm kinda back like yesterday when the phone is just helplessly discharging until it drops dead. Pressing vol+ and power restarts the phone, but I'm still stuck at the logo...
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CloudCompute said:
Done bro. Although I must say, I'm kinda back like yesterday when the phone is just helplessly discharging until it drops dead. Pressing vol+ and power restarts the phone, but I'm still stuck at the logo...
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You seem to be in a sticky situation bro. Your recovery seems to be broken because in stock recovery Vol up + power should ideally take you to recovery and not restart. If you could somehow boot into fastboot mode then it could open up some options to bring your phone to life.
With no way to connect to the phone the only options left are the hardware buttons. I am sure you'd have tried them already, but just in case you have not, try the other 2 key combinations also, Vol down + power and Vol up + Volume down + power, for ~10 secs, to check if any of these either forces a factory reset or boots the phone into fastboot mode.

eusagc said:
Hi there,
Kindly help... I successfully installed B512 on my TL10 using force upgrade method, afterwhich I changed recovery to TWRP 3.0.2 using mobopx v2.2, which was also successful. And then I installed SuperSU 2.46 via TWRP, then cleared cache/dalvik. But upon rebooting system, I get a blank screen, even after waiting for more than 15 minutes.
And so I tried going to TWRP (Vol+ and power), which was successful, in order to boot to bootloader, with the intention of loading back the stock bootloader via adb, so that I can force install B512 from my microSD card again. It seemed to install fine...
However, at this point, I cannot reboot to bootloader (Vol- and power) anymore, I only get blank screen. Trying recovery (Vol+ and power) doesn't work either. Rebooting normally gives me the same. I cannot by any means connect via adb now.
Is there any way to unbrick my phone at this point?
Thanks so much. Cheers.
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Go back to stock recovery reflash stock rom make sure you have a unlocked bootloader......all remember that Google is your friend.....

CloudCompute said:
You seem to be in a sticky situation bro. Your recovery seems to be broken because in stock recovery Vol up + power should ideally take you to recovery and not restart. If you could somehow boot into fastboot mode then it could open up some options to bring your phone to life.
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That's correct bro. Although it appears from adb that I was able to install the stock recovery, I cannot access it with Vol+ and power.
CloudCompute said:
With no way to connect to the phone the only options left are the hardware buttons. I am sure you'd have tried them already, but just in case you have not, try the other 2 key combinations also, Vol down + power and Vol up + Volume down + power, for ~10 secs, to check if any of these either forces a factory reset or boots the phone into fastboot mode.
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Yes, I did. And I can't even boot to bootloader after all that... The phone only seems to charge, but is stuck at the logo.
I'm ready to send this to Huawei's service center. Is there anything more I can do at this point before I do that? Thanks so much.

stinka318 said:
Go back to stock recovery reflash stock rom make sure you have a unlocked bootloader......all remember that Google is your friend.....
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Thanks bro, but that's what I did, or at least was planning to do. After rooting B512 via TWRP, the phone got stuck at the logo. And so I tried to install stock recovery, which it did, in order to reflash the stock ROM. But at this point I'm still stuck at the logo, and I can't access recovery and BL anymore. The BL is unlocked right from the start...

eusagc said:
Thanks bro, but that's what I did, or at least was planning to do. After rooting B512 via TWRP, the phone got stuck at the logo. And so I tried to install stock recovery, which it did, in order to reflash the stock ROM. But at this point I'm still stuck at the logo, and I can't access recovery and BL anymore. The BL is unlocked right from the start...
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Did you try volume down and then plug USB in on computer then command prompt fast boot reboot it may work.

eusagc said:
I'm ready to send this to Huawei's service center. Is there anything more I can do at this point before I do that? Thanks so much.
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Go ahead, send it to Huawei service centre. They'll have ways to reach the internal memory after opening up the device.

stinka318 said:
Did you try volume down and then plug USB in on computer then command prompt fast boot reboot it may work.
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Thank you for this suggestion brother. I tried exactly as you described, however, the phone looks badly discharged, and while the screen was blinking/showing the red battery icon, it doesn't seem to want to charge. I waited around 5 minutes, but nothing seems to progress from here.
And so now, I moved the USB cable to a proper charger, and now it seems to be charging, with the LED light a steady red, and the screen the normal red circle with "0%" inside. It seems to be charging at the moment, although I really have to wait until it shows "1%" until I can surely say so.
One thing that's different now is that the phone hasn't turned on (by itself) yet. And at least this looks promising.
I'll let you know what happens in a while... Thank you!

eusagc said:
Thank you for this suggestion brother. I tried exactly as you described, however, the phone looks badly discharged, and while the screen was blinking/showing the red battery icon, it doesn't seem to want to charge. I waited around 5 minutes, but nothing seems to progress from here.
And so now, I moved the USB cable to a proper charger, and now it seems to be charging, with the LED light a steady red, and the screen the normal red circle with "0%" inside. It seems to be charging at the moment, although I really have to wait until it shows "1%" until I can surely say so.
One thing that's different now is that the phone hasn't turned on (by itself) yet. And at least this looks promising.
I'll let you know what happens in a while... Thank you!
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Charging's at 4% now... And the phone hasn't turned on so far... Looks promising...

eusagc said:
Charging's at 4% now... And the phone hasn't turned on so far... Looks promising...
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All well now?

CloudCompute said:
All well now?
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I was out of town for the past few weeks and didn't have time to do this. I'm back now and plan to work on this tonight. Thank you bro, I'll let you know how it goes...

D2403 not turning on - red light of death

My D2403 (M2 Aqua) doest turn on when I press the power button, the red light lights on when I connect the charger, and the sony logo loops, the red light blinks like two times, and thats it. What can I do ?

pi4a7a said:
My D2403 (M2 Aqua) doest turn on when I press the power button, the red light lights on when I connect the charger, and the sony logo loops, the red light blinks like two times, and thats it. What can I do ?
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Hi,
What verison of Android do you have on your M2?
Do you use a stock ROM or have you flashed a custom ROM on your device?

xavinux said:
Hi,
What verison of Android do you have on your M2?
Do you use a stock ROM or have you flashed a custom ROM on your device?
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I flashed custom - CM 13

pi4a7a said:
I flashed custom - CM 13
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Ok, can you boot in recovery mode if you press POWER and VOLUME MINUS at the same time or by running adb reboot recovery ?

xavinux said:
Ok, can you boot in recovery mode if you press POWER and VOLUME MINUS at the same time or by running adb reboot recovery ?
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No, the phone only light the red light indicator, and thats all. I tried charging it all day and all night, but with no success.

pi4a7a said:
No, the phone only light the red light indicator, and thats all
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Try to flash it using EMMA:
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Andr...ony-Flash-tool-for-Xperia-devices/td-p/307318
and see if the computer detects the device. Also remove SIM and SD cards and try to boot the M2.

xavinux said:
Try to flash it using EMMA:
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Andr...ony-Flash-tool-for-Xperia-devices/td-p/307318
and see if the computer detects the device. Also remove SIM and SD cards and try to boot the M2.
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When I connect it in the PC, there is a sound when you plug and unplug a device, thats sounds plays seconds after connect i(it connects it, and then dicsonnects it automaticlly) also It only recognize it when I plug it in fastboot mode..
When I try to power on the device while is in the charger, the no battery big white icon shows, and thats it.

pi4a7a said:
When I connect it in the PC, there is a sound when you plug and unplug a device, thats sounds plays seconds after connect i(it connects it, and then dicsonnects it automaticlly) also It only recognize it when I plug it in fastboot mode..
When I try to power on the device while is in the charger, the no battery big white icon shows, and thats it.
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So you can start your M2 in fastboot mode, the led light should turn into blue.
You can try to flash TWRP recovery and then the ROM again, download twrp.img from here: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=457095661767112082
Then to flash it to the M2 from a command line run:
adb reboot bootloader (to enter in fastboot mode)
fastboot flash recovery /path/to/the/twrp.img
Then try to reboot into recovery mode running:
adb reboot recovery
And then from the TWRP menu -> WIPE -> INSTALL the ROM file again.

When I type the first I get a error - error: device '(null)' not found
The device is connected by the way (I got the blue light).

pi4a7a said:
When I type the first I get a error - error: device '(null)' not found
The device is connected by the way (I got the blue light).
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Ok, so adb is not recognizing the device.
When you connect the M2 make sure you hold the VOLUME DOWN before connecting the USB-cable and hold it until EMMA detect it., this can take up to 1 minute. If this didn't help, force a shutdown holding the POWER and VOLUME UP buttons at the same time for at least 10 seconds, then connect it to the wall charger and charge the M2 for two or three hours. You can also try by pressing the OFF button on the MICRO SIM slot.

xavinux said:
Ok, so adb is not recognizing the device.
When you connect the M2 make sure you hold the VOLUME DOWN before connecting the USB-cable and hold it until EMMA detect it., this can take up to 1 minute. If this didn't help, force a shutdown holding the POWER and VOLUME UP buttons at the same time for at least 10 seconds, then connect it to the wall charger and charge the M2 for two or three hours. You can also try by pressing the OFF button on the MICRO SIM slot.
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I tried this with Flashtool, its not working, and by the way I have opened the back panel and I have access to the battery, and I can disconnect it directly, to force shutdown it. I did it, and put it on charge for whole day and night, no success at all... :///

pi4a7a said:
I tried this with Flashtool, its not working, and by the way I have opened the back panel and I have access to the battery, and I can disconnect it directly, to force shutdown it. I did it, and put it on charge for whole day and night, no success at all... :///
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And have you tried the other suggestions I"ve given above ?