Folks, listen up!
We all know Atrix2 ICS Updates are rolling out! I think everybody knows this by now. Especially in INDIA!
So please STOP POSTING THE SAME THING!!!
So far, I have deleted 10, and now there are 20 more!
All ICS Update threads will be deleted in order to keep the forums clean.
MD
I think even after this post, there will be a few others who will make an ICS UPDATE IN INDIA thread.
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MD
I made an info post for this exact reason MD. To hopefully answer a lot of questions out there.
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I made an info post for this exact reason MD. To hopefully answer a lot of questions out there.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium
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I saw that, and thanks for trying to limit traffic.
However, "some" people... and I'm not pointing a finger at our beloved users in India..............yeah..... I am
I know everybody's excited, but, enough is enough.
Now, if the OTA bricks devices, that's different.
If a user "traps" the OTA and put's it to a server, that's different.
If a user somehow got a JB OTA, that's definitely different!
MD
Thank god finally you showed up MD. It was getting all messy with those update threads every hours.Thanks for clearing it.
Archmag3 said:
Thank god finally you showed up MD. It was getting all messy with those update threads every hours.Thanks for clearing it.
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Mate, I wasn't missing in action. Was on buggy ride at the park with my baby girl, with tab, and 3g coverage was non-existent in the forest, so doing edits and stuff, was a pain.
All is well now though.
Looks like you all will be busy in the Q&A forum though. :laugh::laugh::laugh: I'm not an Atrix owner, so can't help. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Peace On!
MD
Ok 1 quick qsn.. Don't bust me for this.. will I lose root if I update to Ics? And is there gonna be any problem if I update with root?
Sent from my stock rooted Atrix2!
Ashwasash said:
Ok 1 quick qsn.. Don't bust me for this.. will I lose root if I update to Ics? And is there gonna be any problem if I update with root?
Sent from my stock rooted Atrix2!
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Really ?
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Ashwasash said:
Ok 1 quick qsn.. Don't bust me for this.. will I lose root if I update to Ics? And is there gonna be any problem if I update with root?
Sent from my stock rooted Atrix2!
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Mate, I won't bust your chops. You actually did the right thing by posting onto an existing thread. Thanks!
Check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1882335
And any questions, I am sure they will be answered.
I can tell you on other devices, you will probably lose root. As this seems like a full update from what I hear. But, I don't own the device, so you need to ask the old pro's.
But check that thread I linked you to. He;s a pretty good chap.
MD
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Really ?
And to answer your questions yes you will.
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Be nice Mate. At least he asked, and didn't start a new thread
MD
@MD I guess you should lock this thread and stick it for sometime
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Be nice Mate. At least he asked, and didn't start a new thread
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Hehe ok ok..my bad if it was hurting.But it was rather funny hehe,actually it was kind of ironic that he asked in thread made to stop all those spamming :laugh:
Sorry if it hurted.
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@MD I guess you should lock this thread and stick it for sometime
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Naw, if it helps keep the forum under control, I will let it ride.
And I expect YOU, and the rest of the Senior members, to show the best side of XDA, and help some of these poor souls who are worried.
I know, you can search and find most of these answers, however, big roll out for the Atrix, and some people, well, they need a bit of help or reassurance.
(I still love my own facepalm)
MD
guys this was just realeased yesterday, no need to act like nazi's about it! geez! i understand keeping the forum clean, but you deleted a thread that i posted in that had valued info for people who are rooted or are bricked, and now its gone! and its not like i saved the info in a info.txt so its really gone!! with you deletign them AS THEY COME OUT nobody will get the answers they are looking for!! and yes i have a feeling that the ICS posts will not stop right away either, you admins would have been better off just letting it go for a week so everyone is updated then start deleting duplicates, now we all have to hear your **** on every post like a nazi, not cool! this all could have been avoided if you'd of just kept you mouth shut for a week!
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on every post like a nazi, !
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Be very careful about calling people names. Maybe it's ok where you come from, but in most civilized societies, it's not ok.
(FYI, my aunt and uncle were interned by the Nazi regime, and the outcome wasn't, pleasurable. . So you should lay it to rest Mate )
Not really sure what set you off, and no, I would hope I am not compared to .... Nazi's. I'm sure if you look, I'm a pretty fair person.
The fact remains, I and other mods, will not let the forum be over-run by countless "hey, I got my update". It's a development site, or have you forgotten.
I think I'm pretty fair about keeping things clean. If you have a beef, send it to PM instead of airing dirty laundry.
MD
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guys this was just realeased yesterday, no need to act like nazi's about it! geez! i understand keeping the forum clean, but you deleted a thread that i posted in that had valued info for people who are rooted or are bricked, and now its gone! and its not like i saved the info in a info.txt so its really gone!! with you deletign them AS THEY COME OUT nobody will get the answers they are looking for!! and yes i have a feeling that the ICS posts will not stop right away either, you admins would have been better off just letting it go for a week so everyone is updated then start deleting duplicates, now we all have to hear your **** on every post like a nazi, not cool! this all could have been avoided if you'd of just kept you mouth shut for a week!
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Not a good approach to this, especially when addressing the forum moderators. If you had "valuable information", you certainly could have (and should have) posted in an existing thread. That, my friend, is the issue here, not that you are upset and feel the need to -along with dozens of other members- start a fresh thread about ICS, the leak, the risks, the rewards, the blah, blah, whatever. I was going to PM you to suggest you edit your post, before it is seen by the admins here, but then this wouldn't be a learning experience for you if I'd done that. Further, it's in poor form to refer to people here, especially our good mods, as "Nazis". You have no idea who you may offend, aside from just being plain insulting and disrespectful. I don't feel you are warranted to determine what the moderators are 'authorized' to do, as you state, "you admins would have been better off just letting it go for a week so everyone is updated then start deleting duplicates, now we all have to hear your **** on every post like a nazi, not cool!" This type of combative attitude is what is NOT cool, and certainly not tolerated on xda...
Again, perhaps a better, more tactful explanation of posting formatting and rules would be appropriate from the mods... not just 'use search and don't be a noob.'
Ex. Please use [<Q>][<os version>][<geographic or custom ROM variant>][subject] for OP post title.
Ex. Please read sticky "helper" posts created by Devs and Acknowledged Contributors before posting a new thread.
Ex. Failure to follow these rules will cause your post to be deleted without prejudice in order to keep this forum concise and easy to learn from.
Tact is very important to drive a point, regardless of your 57 magical powers of moderation, development, or contribution.
Without it, people think you come off as a member of a European political party from the early twentieth century that went on to generate a lot of grief for the planet...
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Again, perhaps a better, more tactful explanation of posting formatting and rules would be appropriate from the mods... not just 'use search and don't be a noob.'
thank you! the admins need to ACTUALLY help! thats my point and if yall read my post again i said "i posted in a thread that WAS existing and is now deleted!!!!!!" geez.... if yall are gonna try n bash me at least read my post first!!
idk how many times i spend hours searching in the xda search box to find nothing.....it needs a better filter! you type the name of a phone and what you are looking for , and you get everything about the phone except what you need 1/2 the time! im usually better off just google searching and looking for an xda url.
and if the admins refuse to give out the PROPER help then ill continue to call them whatever i please! if they were help i wouldnt get offensive, that is the point of this site/forum right? a community that helps each other???? at least thats what i thought...
and my using the term - nazi - was only a "its my way or the highway" reference... im sorry for your fams personal experiences...
and you were gonna help me but decided not, because YOU think i need to learn the hard way?????????? its people like you that make this forum a mad house!!
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seedoubleyou said:
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and you were gonna help me but decided not, because YOU think i need to learn the hard way?????????? its people like you that make this forum a mad house!!
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gearhead3585 said:
seedoubleyou said:
Again, perhaps a better, more tactful explanation of posting formatting and rules would be appropriate from the mods... not just 'use search and don't be a noob.'
thank you! the admins need to ACTUALLY help! thats my point and if yall read my post again i said "i posted in a thread that WAS existing and is now deleted!!!!!!" geez.... if yall are gonna try n bash me at least read my post first!!
idk how many times i spend hours searching in the xda search box to find nothing.....it needs a better filter! you type the name of a phone and what you are looking for , and you get everything about the phone except what you need 1/2 the time! im usually better off just google searching and looking for an xda url.
and if the admins refuse to give out the PROPER help then ill continue to call them whatever i please! if they were help i wouldnt get offensive, that is the point of this site/forum right? a community that helps each other???? at least thats what i thought...
and my using the term - nazi - was only a "its my way or the highway" reference... im sorry for your fams personal experiences...
and you were gonna help me but decided not, because YOU think i need to learn the hard way?????????? its people like you that make this forum a mad house!!
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Dude if you want help then stop this kind of posting. I am usually the first person to help someone, but what you are doing is not cool at all.
There are now 10 threads about this leak, pick one and post your issue in one of them, there are a ton of us that would jump in and help.
Just stop posting junk like this, it just detracts from what this place is about, and our MODS are here to help that is what they are doing. Do you know how many threads the others devs and I in here see on a daily basis, so keeping things clean helps you and the rest of the people in here, because we don't have to look at 10 posts that are about the same thing, or posts that are threatening or berating, or worse pushy sort of like these posts. Just take this as what it is, and that is a little slap on the face for not doing the right thing, and go find a post that is close and post your issue.
Look I am sorry your OG post got deleted, that can happen around here, just live with it and repost it in another already established thread.
And stop these kind of posts, please.
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Hi,
I have installed a cooked ROM and now I want to get back to original AT&T ROM, how can I do that? Please advise. Thanks.
OOOH this is an easy one man upper right corner there is a search link just type some of the words from ur original post issue there and u will find what ur looking for... i dont know something like "stock att rom "... and in future please do try to use this feature of xda as u will see it very useful
HEY SCOT, is this more tactful
I will tell you this only if you promise to never ask another question.
Step 1 - Go to the HTC website
Step 2 - Download the HTC Rom of your choice for your phone
Step 3 - Flash your phone with the latest ROM
HOLY CHRIST!
DIDNT YOU JUST POST IN GENERAL!?
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Ouch Ali... I was just gonna give the guy this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568 as an alternate option cuz ive been a little harsh to noobs on xda with there postings and i wanna do my helpful daily deed
Edit: Oh shoot too late uve been flamed
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Hi,
I have installed a cooked ROM and now I want to get back to original AT&T ROM, how can I do that? Please advise. Thanks.
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Take it back to the AT&T store - they're sure to help...
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Take it back to the AT&T store - they're sure to help...
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Oh no... come on guys give him a break lol u are too funny
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break?
lol. your funny
it seems like the last couple of days there is a competition going for most ridiculously redundant thread posting in kaiser rom dev forum... im amazed at all the new users just asking the most simplest question that require minimal too little searching to find just what they are looking for
its not that hard. all you have to do is look in the wiki and all the answers are there. you have to be a pure idiot not to see it. and search alright i have to admit its a hit or miss. but when it comes down to the wiki. you find everything
also use google.
search your topic useing
for ex. HTC HOME + xda
you will find what your looking for!
i only post when i cant find a single answer.
so why dont people do the same?
bleh no one should get free rides around these parts.
True mbudden but ive had a change of heart and we should all be a little more compationate here on xda until they implement a new member system requiring people to take tutorials and pass a test before being allowed membership... cuz u r right its not rocket science
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I dont know why some people are harsh on new members, how else will you learn? How many people actually read the whole entire manual when buying something new?
Here is a link to the original WM 6.1:
http://www.htc.com/us/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=67&cat=all
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well if your going to give him help
make sure you give him all the help
you forgot about if he needs to send it back in
he needs to revert back to stock spl.
princeison said:
I dont know why some people are harsh on new members, how else will you learn? How many people actually read the whole entire manual when buying something new?
Here is a link to the original WM 6.1:
http://www.htc.com/us/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=67&cat=all
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1-I dont know why some people are harsh on new members,
Answerso you know how many people posting same things everyday,and keep posting?If you are not lazy,searching more easy then creating a new thread.
2-how else will you learn?
Answer:Searching,WIKI,Stickys.everythings is there....
3-How many people actually read the whole entire manual when buying something new?
Answer:Lazyness..
I think everything is Answered...
Regards
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I may be new to these forums, but I am not new to forums in general. I know how **** works. Obviously the SEARCH button in the corner is made to help people out; however if someone posts a question, do you think it is necessary for 10 people to flame him?
Have you EVER in your life purchased a product and sat there and read every single page in the manual?
Yeah many people ask ask for help so you give them a link to a sticky. Is that so hard?
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Alright, good that you know how things work.
However if you posted a question I'd think you'd get flamed too.
He's not the only one. You have to remeber that.
And honestly, I have bought a product and read the manual if it wasnt just common sence. But then again when it comes down to a product thats 500$ why would you want to tinker with it? If you break it using someone elses intructions dont bother doing it then. Don't ***** and complain you didnt read etc.etc. Thats what half of these ' I bricked my tilt ' threads are. Its nonsence!
Oh also, there are many stickies and theres the wiki. So what are you trying to get at? Lots of noobs come here with many diff questions. So how are you asposed to sticky 1039821093 posts that you could just search around for the answer. wow lazy people.
I hope a admin closes this thread. they need to.
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P.S. I was a admin also. I guess some people have more patience then others. But if people post something that is "stupid", and you have nothing productive to say, then why bother saying anything at all? Does it affect your life in any sort of way at all? When you buy a new car do you read through the 200+ pages? I honestly don't. However different people work different ways.
No need to drag this conversation on further.
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If you are not a complete idiot you can read the forum and search any questions you have.... i did not read a single page of the manual that came with my phone, i just read the forum. Its actually very annoying seen a new thread almost everyday on the same subject and you may say, "how does it affect you" but the point is i have to see a stupid question everyday polluting the forum. not only the ROM Dev forum but also the software and especially the general. why create an entirely new thread. Thats why members, especially older members get so pissed.
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P.S. I was a admin also. I guess some people have more patience then others. But if people post something that is "stupid", and you have nothing productive to say, then why bother saying anything at all? Does it affect your life in any sort of way at all? When you buy a new car do you read through the 200+ pages? I honestly don't. However different people work different ways.
No need to drag this conversation on further.
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If you were a admin on a forum before I would think that you would know why people would be getting upset and everything. But obviously you have a low post count so no one knows anything about you, and you could just be making things up. But I'm not saying that. But alright, what I may be doing by flaming someone may not be productive but it does help for the OP to go and search and maybe he learns a lesson, he may not like it or not. So what. And really it does affect everything because when I go to search I find stupid senseless posts up in my search and I find it retarded that I have to search threw them to find that those people were flamed. And who said anything of this nature compared to a car? That's personal preference of what someone days. And people do work in many ways, like I like working in a clean environment that is fluttered with trash like the useless threads I have to swim threw to find my knowledge. I've been here since the Wizard days, I've learned about the search and the wiki and its always been a great help. Its now other peoples turns to do the same.
Well Well Well
I don't see why this thread needs to continue.
Closed.
This was originally a pointless post about the progress of Revolutionary, but now it is about Ponies. So feel free to post whatever you like I guess lol.
By the way I know this is a horse but it's funnier than a pony.
I vote we change topics before things get ugly. This thread is now about ponies.
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I hope the op has a flame retardant suit on... it's gonna get hot in this thread...
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github said:
Since OP is going to get RAPED for posting this, I vote we change topics.
This thread is now about ponies.
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Too funny man.
via EVO.
github said:
Since OP is going to get RAPED for posting this, I vote we change topics.
This thread is now about ponies.
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Lol....I so needed that!
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I'll contribute $1000 to the OP's root bounty. Word!
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github said:
Since OP is going to get RAPED for posting this, I vote we change topics.
This thread is now about ponies.
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No need to be a d*ck about it. I just thought the other noobs like me would like to see that progress has been made. Glad to see XDA members supporting each other...
If noobs would read they wouldn't need threads with misleading topics like this one.
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github said:
Since OP is going to get RAPED for posting this, I vote we change topics.
This thread is now about ponies.
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This must be some kind of rom or theme with ponies....amiright?
who cares what this says anyways
Any pony screenies? I would like to see some lol
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github said:
Since OP is going to get RAPED for posting this, I vote we change topics.
This thread is now about ponies.
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dude this is Fu(ked up, I just flashed you "my little Pony" kernel with sbc, and my GD phone caught on fire.... "they" were right about this sbc stuff, but nice work on the development of EvO !!! ummmm just had to....
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Any pony screenies? I would like to see some lol
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I don't think XDA is the place for rule 34.
Oh, just trade your EVO in at Target Mobile or Best Buy, get $150 for it, and pick up a 3D for $50 bucks.
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No need to be a d*ck about it. I just thought the other noobs like me would like to see that progress has been made. Glad to see XDA members supporting each other...
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Oh come on, you posted a BS thread with a misleading title and you call US dicks. Go screw dude, eff around on androidcentral and stop wasting our time
skatrwannabe3 said:
Oh come on, you posted a BS thread with a misleading title and you call US dicks. Go screw dude, eff around on androidcentral and stop wasting our time
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First, it is not a misleading title. The thread was for people with no experience sifting through all the jargon to be able to have a place to look for updates for their Evo; a "Glint of Hope" so to speak. Wasn't XDA originally designed to help people like that? Now it seems as though it's just a bunch of pricks like you who like to tear down anyone who tries to provide help or asks an inexperienced question. Second, there is no "us". It is you, skatrwannabe3, to whom I am referring to as a ****. If you don't like my thread, then get off of it. End of story. I reported the thread anyway so it will hopefully be deleted soon and free up space on your precious forum. This is my last post on this thread. It was a waste of my time and I now know how XDA works thanks to it. Don't ask questions. Don't post information. Because people like skatrwannabe3 and github will ruin it for you and everyone else...
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Oh, just trade your EVO in at Target Mobile or Best Buy, get $150 for it, and pick up a 3D for $50 bucks.
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That's with a two-year upgrade, which a lot of us don't have.
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First, it is not a misleading title. The thread was for people with no experience sifting through all the jargon to be able to have a place to look for updates for their Evo; a "Glint of Hope" so to speak. Wasn't XDA originally designed to help people like that? Now it seems as though it's just a bunch of pricks like you who like to tear down anyone who tries to provide help or asks an inexperienced question. Second, there is no "us". It is you, skatrwannabe3, to whom I am referring to as a ****. If you don't like my thread, then get off of it. End of story. I reported the thread anyway so it will hopefully be deleted soon and free up space on your precious forum. This is my last post on this thread. It was a waste of my time and I now know how XDA works thanks to it. Don't ask questions. Don't post information. Because people like skatrwannabe3 and github will ruin it for you and everyone else...
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People need to cool it, I know you're frustrated that you don't have root, but please stop taking it out on each other. This forum is worse than working for AT&T customer service!
The main problem is that your post is old news. It also doesn't belong in development because you aren't developing anything. Furthermore the subject of your post has been discussed numerous times since the tool was released. Therefore I see no point in your post, so now we are talking about ponies.
github said:
The main problem is that your post is old news. It also doesn't belong in development because you aren't developing anything. Furthermore the subject of your post has been discussed numerous times since the tool was released. Therefore I see no point in your post, so now we are talking about ponies while you're getting butthurt over our comments. Did that clear things up or do you need more?
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I could not care less about the comments. It's that you altered my thread which wasn't meant for senior members to even use as a reference. I have indeed seen it posted for other devices but not under Evo. I figured it would be news to some. I am sorry for making a noob post. I am trying to get the thread deleted so it won't waste space anymore. Now get the hell over it and let's move on. Proceed with your ponies lol.
Now that's a better reply.
We (most) are just having fun with you for posting it here. The ponies was nothing compared to what you could have seen from others. Don't take the lulz personally, it happens to the best of us. Just remember, a bit of common sense on XDA saves one from ponies (and/or worse).
Now that the dust has settled, you can PM a forum mod if you still want the thread deleted. Pick one: toastcfh, rolfd, or josefcrist. If you want actual discussion, you might repost this over in General or Q&A and hope for the best.
P.S. "jordanetodd" your AT&T comment was funny.
P.P.S. edited some of my comments, even though the originals are still quoted by others
This is just a suggestion for all the developers that are established within this forum. Alright every time a new Rom, Kernel, or Tweak etc. is released the development forums get cluttered up with a bunch of ( lets face it guys ) useless information, questions ( which generally don't belong here ), and unnecessary thank you's. THERE IS A BUTTON FOR THAT! Anyways back to my original idea maybe these DEVS can pick a group of knowledgeable members to use as their testers to find bugs and issues before release to public. I know your excited to be finished ( you thought ) and want to share it with everyone, but think of these testers of your very own R & D team. By doing this most of the bugs can be resolved before public release therefore resulting in far less clutter about fix this or this don't work blah blah blah. I personally think this would result in much neater more organized threads that are more appealing to read through. I hate when i see a thread of interest and BAM over 100 replies thats alot of pages to go through. I also think this would make the moderators happier also. What do you guys think?
PS if you guys like what i have to say then HIT THE THANKS BUTTON don't post saying thanks no need to clutter up any thread.
I have been saying this same idea for some time now. I don't want credit for it, maybe others suggested it too before me. But still, you are the one that came up with this thread so like me I know there are some others that support this idea.
I remember back in the Froyo days when there wasn't that much trouble. I remember when a developer tested one of the ROM with the members that donated to the project first and then released it to the public. Also, I remember developers getting the phone either with them paying for it or getting donations so there was practically no need for users to test the alpha, beta, charlie, delta... releases. Also, I remember when Whitehawk decided to stop releasing ROM when we were getting many source leaks and then he came up with the Valhalla Final. We didn't have lot of controversy. Soooo it came to my mind that the trick for this was to have a controlled tester group.
It's simple, as you said, the testers would be chosen among the most savvy users that know how to report logs and then when the project became final it was released so there was no need for reports and requests with exception of maybe one or two more releases if something came up. This would have eased the pain of developers for releasing ten builds in a week and getting hundreds of useless replies and mainly would have avoided the drama and fireworks. Right now the forums seems to be under control thanks to the new moderator. But for me, and you, this is the very best idea I could think of.
Thanks for doing this. Hopefully other will be supportive too.
We do get testers in IRC. Most of the people in there lurk thoughk. When I have asked for someone to test before, no one really does. If you want to take an active stance you need to go where your devs are talking. Team Acid tends to be on #teamnerd all the time.
Also. Why not just take the time to read. Useless posts I don't think there are many useless posts. We all have different opinions and ways of understanding things and some of the posts that have helped me out over the year fit in to your definition of being useless. Also there is a thank you button but what kind of world is there where someone can't take the time to write a meaningful personalized message thanking the dev. Even if it literally says thank you it took more effort than clicking a button. We have a gift to read and share knowledge praise thanks and I like seeing the different forms if gratitude and I think the devs should think of it as being respectful and gratious. Also do we really need a thread complaining. Just be happy. And relax. Its a great day and age we live in. And threads aren't that drastically cluttered and as fb said you really want to help?? Join the irc and Google **** send logs. Not ***** about thank yous and small jokes. Relax and enjoy the forums. Its entertainment or else no one would be here.
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I agree with using a group of testers to help provide logs and such on builds. However I dont think, and this is just my opinion, that testers should have to idle in irc to get those builds. Because Im sure there are several people that could help but dont or cant idle there because of family, work, or school. I have seen erikmm mention a user or two using his builds before release. That is very good.
I also believe if a dev gets frustrated at a question being asked over and over again use the report button and ignore it. That applies to everybody if you see a question asked a second, third or more times report it. However answer the question if you can. Ask the mod to move it to a q&a thread. A general thread to move those is lumins stickied stupid questions thread. Maybe we can get sixstringsg to chime in on this. I know it aggravating to see these questions over and over but sometimes just answering them and asking to have the question moved is the better option then refuse and say use search. If you feel its spoon feeding or whatever remember somebody had to answer the question at some point. Not everybody has google-fu skills to find the right answers and simply answering saves so much frustrations on everybody.
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Extend the test build outside of irc because not everybody can idle in irc.
Questions that frustrate need to be reported.
If you can answer that question maybe do so and ask to get it moved.
Lumin's stupid question thread would be a great landing point if a thread isnt available.
sixstringsg maybe chime in regarding moving these posts instead of deleting them.
. Also there is a thank you button but what kind of world is there where someone can't take the time to write a meaningful personalized message thanking the dev. Even if it literally says thank you it took more effort than clicking a button. We have a gift to read and share knowledge praise thanks and I like seeing the different forms if gratitude and I think the devs should think of it as being respectful and gratious.
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Look I really totally agree with you about comment being better than pressing a button, I even wrote a thread about it. But the moderators deleted it not move it or give me a warning just gone, and it was not even ignorant. I made suggestion to make a special section for this like q and a for each rom.
Also I do a great deal of reading on here I don't have a problem reading and learning something new but look at it from a newbies perspective, ahhhhh way to much to read where are the files ill just flash its easy right hence leading to USELESS POSTS. I know this don't mean all people some do read.
Also as far as IRC I've been there don't understand half of what is discussed but testing from there will just bring leacheers and clutter another thread so to speak.
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Asking dev's to test builds is something most of them do already anyway. You get a build to a stage where you can release it. Then you hope that people find the small bugs you missed and give you logs so you can track them down and fix them. That is the whole idea behind this site. The problem doesn't lie with the devs it lies with the users. The ones who don't read, mess something up, then come crying to the dev thread either wanting help or blaming the dev for putting out a non perfect product. Look at whites thread for Valhalla. He releases it as a final and their are still 17 pages of pretty useless questions in the DEV section. That's the problem. We've all seen it. Tommy the Newb frantically posting everywhere so he can get to the magic number ten which allows him to post in the dev section. Then he posts some useless bit of already answered drivel. Look at how may times Erik and I have already had to ask people in the MiUI thread to use Q&A. Dev sections should be for just that development. Sorry but how do I put swype back on is not development. So asking the devs to fix the problem is putting the cart before the horse. How about we educate the users a little and if that doesn't work report the posts that need to go or get moved. Or you can just do what I've done and get used to people posting useless drivel and learn to speed read.
Every point you make hecheon I can counter. However If I do it will turn this thread into something its not intended to be.
This quote sums up this device community.
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Don't piss off the devs!
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@Hechoen I by no means putting any blame on any development, I agree it is the users that clog up threads. But if you really think about it we are all Hippocrates we tell people where to post stuff in appropriate section but they continue posting q in wrong sec and then someone usually a senior member will post In the same wrong sec resulting in double useless info about the rom. And then mod will post I have moved your thread to correct forum creating another post in Wrong sec I think you guys can understand what I mean.
Maybe to make it alot simpler when a dev releases a project they should lock it instantly resulting in members to post in correct sec.
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Maybe to make it alot simpler when a dev releases a project they should lock it instantly resulting in members to post in correct sec.
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Github bugreports is awesome.
Bhundven is doing just what I said with his new aosp rom even though there are no files to download yet. Then when bugs are cleared thread could be unlocked
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@Hechoen I by no means putting any blame on any development, I agree it is the users that clog up threads. But if you really think about it we are all Hippocrates we tell people where to post stuff in appropriate section but they continue posting q in wrong sec and then someone usually a senior member will post In the same wrong sec resulting in double useless info about the rom. And then mod will post I have moved your thread to correct forum creating another post in Wrong sec I think you guys can understand what I mean.
Maybe to make it alot simpler when a dev releases a project they should lock it instantly resulting in members to post in correct sec.
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What we're really looking at here is a way to make the forums cleaner. I am just as guilty as any one else as far as posting things where I might have been able to post elsewhere. I try not to but sometimes when answering a question I add to that post count of the thread. I didn't men to insinuate that you where blaming the devs at all. Only pointing out that the ROM's that are released are pretty stable for the most part. If we all start to adopt the idea of posting logs in dev threads and questions in Q&A that would be the first step in keeping things a little easier to follow. The thing is there is no simple answer. People will continue to do what they want and we will have to just put up with it. If we all try to do are part maybe slowly we can change things.
Here's a thread that kinda goes through the how to control the useless posts idea. Pages 1 and 2 are pretty entertaining. It's from December. lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1375331&highlight=people
I don't chime in much on things around here but I really want to tell you all that I greatly appreciate the fact that this is a discussion and not what everything else seems to turn into. I think it shows that we are, indeed, a community of people that care about our phones, the development that some really good people spend their time doing, helping each other, helping the new folks, and we care about the community in which we communicate.
It's good to see people caring about what goes on around here. That alone is what made me feel the need to write.
I can't say what the best way is going forward with keeping the dev area cleaner. Each dev is a different person and we're in an open community so I don't know that trying to "lock-down" how it's done will work. Wrapping a development life cycle approach is a good idea but I don't know how effective it can be in a non-corporate environment. I do, personally, like the idea of a small team of testers. I'd like to be one of them but I also realize that my work and personal life interferes with how much I can contribute. Ask FB, he waited a month or so for me to help develop an update to the GB Starter Pack and I never got it done. I love helping the community but I falter, too
I do believe the dev threads should be kept to clicking "Thanks" (PM the Dev if you want to write that heartfelt note/letter), log files, and bug reports. As others have pointed out, though, we can't stop people from doing whatever they want to do. We can encourage, we can point out (Hey, this doesn't belong here), but at the end of the day we can only control our own behaviors.
I want to reiterate my thank you to all of the community here. I'm glad to see we're coalescing & gelling to make this a better place. I'll help with that in any way I can.
Thanks again - Steve
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I do believe the dev threads should be kept to clicking "Thanks" (PM the Dev if you want to write that heartfelt note/letter), log files, and bug reports. As others have pointed out, though, we can't stop people from doing whatever they want to do. We can encourage, we can point out (Hey, this doesn't belong here), but at the end of the day we can only control our own behaviors.
Thanks again - Steve
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Steven that is a very good point. We cant control others. But we can control what is posted. The report button works wonders. Instead of just posting telling people this doesnt belong here and leaving it at that, point them to the proper thread/subforum. I dont mean just tell them to post in q&a or themes link to that sub-forum. Then report both your post and the post your answering and ask the mod to move it to the proper thread/forum. Help the mods out so they arent spending more time fixing/moving and can enjoy the site as well.
I dont mean to blame the devs for everything that is wrong. I agree a portion of this is the non-dev community is responsible for. I want to quote something from the do you wanna be a dev page.
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IMO that puts a lot more responsibility on devs than they realize. I know people have bad days and all it takes is a simple comment to set you off. Ive been there many times. But as a RD and a possible RD you are the face of xda. If somebody comes here and sees RD under your name they think man xda thinks this guy/gal is the bees knees. Then they see this RD being rude or whatever it taints their idea of xda.
Regular members have so many faces. We can also make a opinion of xda based on how we treat the new members. We dont carry as much "weight" in this until a RD jumps in and partakes in the razzing of the noob. Once a RD does this people think man this guy is a jerk and so is this community.
In the end everybody here offers some sort of support, be it endless posts helping a new person, somebody offering ideas to help clean the forums and make them organized, or a RD or RD IT releasing roms. We are a community here. Every single one of us. It is up to us to fix what is broken. The mods can only do so much. By blaming one group or the other only keeps a line divided in the sand. The devs and members need to work together and make this place pleasant.
well im new here but my brother develops roms on xda so this seems like a good thread on paper but i just download it the miui rom and i love it even though it's not final since it has bugs i don't care I mean i love trying the new roms that are released whether they are alpha or beta or final. I think if we have to wait for a final rom(i searched thru dev section) we would of had to wait til Valhalla final then Valhalla Black final and to be honest to wait from march to like november for a rom would of been hell lol my opinion, that is all...
You guys are killing me with this thread.
This forum is working because we a have mod that isn't afraid to use the ban hammer.
Devs using testers? um to an extent they already do.
I personally don't think a non dev has any business telling a dev how to pursue their enthusiasm.
And lastly, you are preaching to the wind the people who need to see this won't because reading is fundamental and that's to much to ask or they do but they disregard because it's one post and they really need blah blah!
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I have to admit that this is actually one of the more useful things you guys can do, if you ARE going to be willing to help. Airfluip mentioned the camcorder bug in CM7 the other day, and Bryan said he had forgotten about it, so I opened a bug report for it. I hadn't used the issue (bug report) capability in github before, but I'm going to start using it more extensively because it's a good way to keep track of what's gotten fixed and what needs to be fixed, rather than having to wade through all the posts on XDA, so I recommend you do this to help us out with any of the projects we have since they're all linked to github from their respective threads.
Ok thanks for all your input guys even though nothing has changed I figured that if I cant develop anything atleast I can contribute in other ways by atleast making suggestions of ways to inprove our site. Trolls are trolls they come in and make us clog up everything must have a chip on their shoulder or a mod rubbed them the wrong way or maybe they are just a luttle kid wanting his voice hward in every post he can. Matbe we should blame the education system for just passing kids and not teaching them to read. Also the younger generation along with others are just too impatient. Alright im done ranting about nothing keep up the good work guys
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lol eh idk about roms having to be final to be released because sometimes test groups get busy with life or dev gets busy but won't write more about it cus don't wanna sound like i disagree just think it'll cause probs because everyone has a life outside of xda. Well I'll just leave you guys with this pic of an unfinalized rom i wish i could release
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Um i did not mean a final before release just a rom with most common bugs found before first release. I still like my second post its much easier and noone gets offended. When a dev releases something put in link and directions and lock thread
link can still be accessed when post is locked and maybe unlock once final is released this would force people to post in proper section hence more cleaner threads. Just look at your SCOM thread over 55 pages. I think i will close this since noone can agree to try change.
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Since some that flashed the leak are at 1.2ghz and others on 1ghz, and some can fxz back and forth and others brick I thought I would put up a poll to see if there is any correlation.
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Since some that flashed the leak are at 1.2ghz and others on 1ghz, and some can fxz back and forth and others brick I thought I would put up a poll to see if there is any correlation.
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Seriously? Do you not know how to search? These have been posted and on the front page for over a week now. took me less than 30 seconds to find these!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785773
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786111
Please read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778853
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Oh my GOD!!!! do you people not know how to search? These have been posted and on the front page for over a week now. took me less than 30 seconds to find these!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785773
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1786111
Please read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778853
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Jim i have read every thread in here. My poll has a very specific purpose unrelated to any of the threads you posted. (which I have both voted on and read through and through)
Some people can FXZ back and forth and others cannot. Some people have 1.2ghz clock and others have 1ghz. You aren't curious to know if there is any relation between these 2 anomalies? I'm curious to know, and that is why I posted the poll. Please vote jim, I know you can FXZ and I think you are at 1 ghz?
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Jim i have read every thread in here. My poll has a very specific purpose unrelated to any of the threads you posted. (which I have both voted on and read through and through)
Some people can FXZ back and forth and others cannot. Some people have 1.2ghz clock and others have 1ghz. You aren't curious to know if there is any relation between these 2 anomalies? I'm curious to know, and that is why I posted the poll. Please vote jim, I know you can FXZ and I think you are at 1 ghz?
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Like I have been saying to everyone now let us devs handle all of this right now stop posting a billion new useless threads.
We are still trying to figure this all out and why some can't and others can't. A Poll is not going to tell us that. It is by digging into the code and PMing those so far that we KNOW can FXZ and let us devs handle it, so that we can get the fix out faster. I have a possible solution I am working on, but I have to constantly deal with all the mess in here too, and there is not enough time for both.
Just please let us devs do what we do best, we will get it figured out!
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Like I have been saying to everyone now let us devs handle all of this right now stop posting a billion new useless threads.
We are still trying to figure this all out and why some can't and others can't. A Poll is not going to tell us that. It is by digging into the code and PMing those so far that we KNOW can FXZ and let us devs handle it, so that we can get the fix out faster. I have a possible solution I am working on, but I have to constantly deal with all the mess in here too, and there is not enough time for both.
Just please let us devs do what we do best, we will get it figured out!
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Well I don't feel like my poll is useless, and I don't see the harm. I know ya'll have been working on a fix and I am confident you will have it sorted out. I'm not claiming to have a fix. Nor am I begging anyone for a fix. My phone is up and running fine and I'm leaving it be until ya'll finish the recovery. I may not be a developer, but I'm not an idiot nor a noob that posts a million threads. I posted 1 thread after reading all the others. As far as I knew this is a public forum where both developers and hobbyists can come together and discuss ideas. I understand your frustration, but no one has forced you to read and reply to every thread. I'm merely requesting a vote for my own personal curiosity. Maybe there is no relation between the two anamolies, and maybe the thread is no help to anyone. But maybe just maybe there is a correlation that would at least tell who is safe and who is not. At the very least it gives the rest of us something else to do while ya'll do your thing behind the scenes.
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MODS...... Please take care of this!!!!!!
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MODS...... Please take care of this!!!!!!
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It was reported by a few people already.
Really????
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I can't believe this place. I have not disrespected one person here. If you look at when I do post its usually to help others. One guy comes in with a bitter attitude towards anyone without dev status, calls peoples threads useless and is basically just disrespectful in general. And all the KoolAid drinkers jump on my back? Now I'm the bad guy. I didn't get the memo that xda was running out of server space or that it was only a place for the developers to talk about what they want. Y'all are just running the very people that make up the majority out of here. I sure want no part of a community that has this kind of attitude.
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I can't believe this place. I have not disrespected one person here. If you look at when I do post its usually to help others. One guy comes in with a bitter attitude towards anyone without dev status, calls peoples threads useless and is basically just disrespectful in general. And all the KoolAid drinkers jump on my back? Now I'm the bad guy. I didn't get the memo that xda was running out of server space or that it was only a place for the developers to talk about what they want. Y'all are just running the very people that make up the majority out of here. I sure want no part of a community that has this kind of attitude.
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Has nothing to do with dev status. Just common sense right now. If you maybe waited another week to post this, then it prolly would not have deflated like it did... trust me it was not me that did anything here, and no one follows me.. heck most on here are still mad about all the bricks. The issue is that there are a ton of people that have all of a sudden taken it upon themselves to appoint themselves a developer and give out bad advice and people are just running rampant and not following the rules and re-posting dupe threads and there is like total anarchy in here right now... so this did not go over very well do to all of that, plus this has basically been covered by two different polls, now you can put the data together and pretty much figure it out.
No disrespect was ever ment. Just think about what is going on and all the sensitivity in here right now before posting, just until things quiet down again.
I hard bricked my Atrix 2, I just threw it away.. i had no fix for it and Motorola's warranty is just bullship to be honest.. :| 420$ thrown away.. but yeah now i'm just gonna save for another one maybe iPhone 5 or Atrix HD or Galaxy s3, just gonna think twice which is better, I hate hard bricks for no reason and bad warranty. Hahah sorry about the complain.
Thank you to the 2 people so far that have taken the time to vote. I am at 1 ghz but have not tried to FXZ back, otherwise I would vote as well.
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Thank you to the 2 people so far that have taken the time to vote. I am at 1 ghz but have not tried to FXZ back, otherwise I would vote as well.
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You post a thread for a poll that you didn't even participate in as the OP? It just keeps gettin' better and better...
#shakingmyhead
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Apex_Strider said:
You post a thread for a poll that you didn't even participate in as the OP? It just keeps gettin' better and better...
#shakingmyhead
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So now there is a rule that the OP must take part in a poll even if there is no way for him to honestly vote? How stupid is that? What if someone posts a pole if they should buy the atrix 2 or the galaxy 3 and the op has no experience with either phone... How could he possibly vote?
And all you followers would not be being so rude had Jim come here and said oh this is interesting lets see where this goes. You all jump on the flame train like a bunch of zombies. Jim tells me to search yet the very thread he referred me to I both voted in and had posts discussing this very topic. A couple people also wondered if there was a correlation but the discussion went no further. I post my own thread so as not jack someone else's and I'm jumped on by people for no good reason. The most ridiculous part of this whole thing is my questions/poll actually has good merit and seems like logical things to look at. People could have spent 15 seconds reading the poll and voting accordingly, but instead take up much more time flaming me for posting it.
If everyone that is able to FXZ is on 1ghz and everyone that bricks is on 1.2ghz isnt that good information to know? Am I the only one that sees this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
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So now there is a rule that the OP must take part in a poll even if there is no way for him to honestly vote? How stupid is that? What if someone posts a pole if they should buy the atrix 2 or the galaxy 3 and the op has no experience with either phone... How could he possibly vote?
And all you followers would not be being so rude had Jim come here and said oh this is interesting lets see where this goes. You all jump on the flame train like a bunch of zombies. Jim tells me to search yet the very thread he referred me to I both voted in and had posts discussing this very topic. A couple people also wondered if there was a correlation but the discussion went no further. I post my own thread so as not jack someone else's and I'm jumped on by people for no good reason. The most ridiculous part of this whole thing is my questions/poll actually has good merit and seems like logical things to look at. People could have spent 15 seconds reading the poll and voting accordingly, but instead take up much more time flaming me for posting it.
If everyone that is able to FXZ is on 1ghz and everyone that bricks is on 1.2ghz isnt that good information to know? Am I the only one that sees this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
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Eh, I think a lot of people here are just tired of the unnecessary and misleading threads. I personally see nothing way too off-base with this one. Maybe it is somewhat of a repeat, but then again not really as it's multiple threads statistic compiled into one and more up-to-date. If there's a problem, yo, a mod will solve it. No need for people to come in here rampaging. If you don't like it, report it and don't post in it. Bumping it sure won't help you resolve it.
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So now there is a rule that the OP must take part in a poll even if there is no way for him to honestly vote? How stupid is that? What if someone posts a pole if they should buy the atrix 2 or the galaxy 3 and the op has no experience with either phone... How could he possibly vote?
And all you followers would not be being so rude had Jim come here and said oh this is interesting lets see where this goes. You all jump on the flame train like a bunch of zombies. Jim tells me to search yet the very thread he referred me to I both voted in and had posts discussing this very topic. A couple people also wondered if there was a correlation but the discussion went no further. I post my own thread so as not jack someone else's and I'm jumped on by people for no good reason. The most ridiculous part of this whole thing is my questions/poll actually has good merit and seems like logical things to look at. People could have spent 15 seconds reading the poll and voting accordingly, but instead take up much more time flaming me for posting it.
If everyone that is able to FXZ is on 1ghz and everyone that bricks is on 1.2ghz isnt that good information to know? Am I the only one that sees this? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
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I won't bother to engage you in arguing the mundane legitimacy of your so called "merit" of this 'poll'. What is logical is to allow the devs here time to do what they need, so as not to keep having to ward off would be n00bs or "know it nots" from doing something stupid. Nobody has "flamed" you, and if you feel like that is the case, you ain't seen flaming. I can attest that I am not a "follower" of Jim or anyone else here in these forums, I am my own entity and hold my own opinions and ideas. If, by chance, said opinions and ideas are similar to others here, doesn't mean that I am some dumb schmuck that wants to fit in with the cool kids. All of this being said, I will again say that I will not waste my time trying to argue the pragmatics of your post...
Alright I think we all should just calm DOWN!
@dudemaaam- All the senior members in the forums are just pretty pissed off at the way this forum has been running. First we had posting 5 different threads a day about ICS, then once we got the leak we had people hard bricking all over the place, then a bunch of people started posting new threads claiming that they've bricked their phones even after pretty much every thread in the forum had a warning not too. THEN we had people still trying to beg for the links for ICS once they've been pulled. AND many noobs started posting out the blue, all over the place saying they found a fix. This one guy in particilar posted like 4 different threads. So all of us are just trying to STOP people from waisting a $400 device. The devs (who have experience in dealing with problems like this) should be the ones asking these polls as they are the only ones who can truly fix the problems
Why are you guys tearing this guy apart? There has been no previous poll to test the correlation between the ability to fxz and your current clockspeed. This post does not give out shoddy advice or inhibit development. I do not see the problem with it. People are way to excited to jump all over anyone and everyone these days. I respect Jim and what he does and is doing for the community. But this poll truly does not inhibit anything. The other thing that has begun to bother me are the Jim "Fanboys" who flame anyone and just yell the "LET THE DEVS DO THERE JOBS" at everyone who posts. Jim I know you have nothing to do with them and I am not implying you do. Just please show some common courtesy. Sure with posts that may harm someones phone report them quickly and post in the thread telling everyone of the danger and leave it. That's all it needs. And leave posts such as this alone as they do no harm.
farshad525hou said:
Alright I think we all should just calm DOWN!
@dudemaaam- All the senior members in the forums are just pretty pissed off at the way this forum has been running. First we had posting 5 different threads a day about ICS, then once we got the leak we had people hard bricking all over the place, then a bunch of people started posting new threads claiming that they've bricked their phones even after pretty much every thread in the forum had a warning not too. THEN we had people still trying to beg for the links for ICS once they've been pulled. AND many noobs started posting out the blue, all over the place saying they found a fix. This one guy in particilar posted like 4 different threads. So all of us are just trying to STOP people from waisting a $400 device. The devs (who have experience in dealing with problems like this) should be the ones asking these polls as they are the only ones who can truly fix the problems
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I totally agree. This whole situation with all of the new posts about the same subject has gotten way out of hand. I get on xda to try and escape from reality for a few minutes a day and anymore i don't even want to get on here because it's the same thing everyday with new posts. It is far beyond ridiculous seeing the same topic, different thread, day in and day out. Nothing against the op, the whole ics leak problem is just frustrating and I think we need to let the devs figure this out.
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Hi everyone,
today was released the kernel 3.0 by htcdev
Device: Desire S
Carrier: HTC
Region: CHS
Type: CRC
Kernel: 3.0.16
Android: v4.0
Size: 97.0 MB
Description: 3.07.1400.2
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this will help ICS/JB ROMS getting better?
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For the love of all things - why, why, why ...
SimonTS said:
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For the love of all things - why, why, why ...
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what?
Fredericosilva said:
Hi everyone
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If you want to contribute please add a high-speed download link for others. Otherwise send a request to the moderators to delete this thread, since it brings nothing new here
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SimonTS said:
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For the love of all things - why, why, why ...
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Simon I'm sure us senior members understand you're frustration with some of the ignorant comments by other members but there's no need to be so harsh all the time!
Fredericosilva said:
what?
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This is the only thing that has been discussed on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1485086 for the last 2 hours and on here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843907 as well.
Did you honestly think you were the first person in the whole wide world to get this information?
Anyone can explain to me why this release it is not good?
This kernel dont help ICS devs?
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Simon I'm sure us senior members understand you're frustration with some of the ignorant comments by other members but there's no need to be so harsh all the time!
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You're quite right - unfortunately they catch the brunt of my anger at the universe right now. They may not all deserve it, but some of them deserve far worse.
I think I'm just going to f*ck off out of here and find something else to do with my spare time where I don't have to try and be tolerant towards people like that.
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SimonTS said:
You're quite right - unfortunately they catch the brunt of my anger at the universe right now. They may not all deserve it, but some of them deserve far worse.
I think I'm just going to f*ck off out of here and find something else to do with my spare time where I don't have to try and be tolerant towards people who I would actually quite happily shoot.
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U need to take it ez dude... Just chill... Have drinks and ignore noobs
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Some moderator can delete this thread? Since Simon is the smartest here, my questions do not have any interest.
SimonTS said:
You're quite right - unfortunately they catch the brunt of my anger at the universe right now. They may not all deserve it, but some of them deserve far worse.
I think I'm just going to f*ck off out of here and find something else to do with my spare time where I don't have to try and be tolerant towards people who I would actually quite happily shoot.
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Belive me, you were ignorant and anoying not so long ago. Just calm yourself down and stop spilling poison all around.
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Simon, I suggest (in all good humor) that you step away from the.keyboard and take a holiday.
Go to your local, relax and have a skin full.
Sywepd form my DsereiS
What is CHS region?
I'm waiting for ICH supporting Arabic Egypt.
What shall I do?
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yep
the kernal source is released...
there are 39904 files and it's about 412MB :good::laugh:
SimonTS said:
You're quite right - unfortunately they catch the brunt of my anger at the universe right now. They may not all deserve it, but some of them deserve far worse.
I think I'm just going to f*ck off out of here and find something else to do with my spare time where I don't have to try and be tolerant towards people like that.
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Simon.. you need this: http://pocket.co/s8Ixq
Sorry off topic..
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Simon Cowell ?
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it´s possible to implement this kernel in a MIUI v4 rom?
Well OP, you're quite late, but at least you keep some of us up to date. And you helped XDA on search engine. people will found this thread later by google search, and they will know the source was released.
For Mr Simon , hmm
mirok said:
Belive me, you were ignorant and anoying not so long ago. Just calm yourself down and stop spilling poison all around.
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well, I thought it's only 2-3 people in this forum have problems with him. Am not saying I dont like anyone of us here, but too keep this forum friendly, no-old-user blatantly hates the new comer, we need to follow this one simple rule, RESPECT . everyone, including admin or the god of anything that have something to do with this board.
At least some of you guys have the guts to give Simon a breaking dawn point. Still, this is better than twilight. :cyclops:
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Well OP, you're quite late, but at least you keep some of us up to date. And you helped XDA on search engine. people will found this thread later by google search, and they will know the source was released.
For Mr Simon , hmm
well, I thought it's only 2-3 people in this forum have problems with him. Am not saying I dont like anyone of us here, but too keep this forum friendly, no-old-user blatantly hates the new comer, we need to follow this one simple rule, RESPECT . everyone, including admin or the god of anything that have something to do with this board.
At least some of you guys have the guts to give Simon a breaking dawn point. Still, this is better than twilight. :cyclops:
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Just to make you aware, I walked away from the forum for a few days - and intended to avoid posting in the DS threads again - through my choice, not because of anything that was said. Some of the longer-time members on here who I respect greatly (Sharpinator, Oly, Ben Pyett, Suku Patel and Dan - if I've missed any of them then I'm sorry) were constructive in their criticism of me and my recent posts. I just let things in the Real World get on top of me and that, coupled with the constant moronic postings on this forum by both noobs and people who should know better, got too much for me. Juggles is probably extremely conversant with what I was going through from a professional point-of-view.
I am not sorry for what I said, but I apologise to the people who originally made this a decent place to be if I upset any of them. I believe that XDA needs to take a serious look at itself before it the community (almost family) feel that it used to have is destroyed forever by the people coming in nowadays, demanding answers all the time, refusing to ever search, not bothering to thank (either by the button or verbally) when they are given answers, posting the same question over and over again because they are not bothered to read the answers they've been given, and generally breaking most of the rules of XDA on a daily basis.
This site is rapidly becoming far too big for the small number of moderators that are assigned to each forum (they do a great job, but can't handle what is going on most of the time) and if XDA is ever to get its quality feeling back they need to start enforcing the rules far more rigidly - especially the people who sign up and then just keep posting things like "Me too" or "What's the best ROM" so they can reach their 10 posts and start polluting the Dev forums. I joined less than a year ago, but I spent over 6 months reading and learning before joining just so that I had an idea what I was doing; my DS had been S-Offed and rooted for almost three months before I even made my first post.
I'm not perfect - hell, I'm the first to admit that, and I (like everybody else on the planet) rub people up the wrong way from time to time. I enjoyed most of my time here - certainly until rumours of ICS hit our device - but since that happened it has not been the same here.
Maybe I should have stayed away from here after what's gone on in Real Life recently, but this place used to be my escape from reality - I guess I just hadn't realised how much that had changed.
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Just to make you aware, I walked away from the forum for a few days - and intended to avoid posting in the DS threads again - through my choice, not because of anything that was said. Some of the longer-time members on here who I respect greatly (Sharpinator, Oly, Ben Pyett, Suku Patel and Dan - if I've missed any of them then I'm sorry) were constructive in their criticism of me and my recent posts. I just let things in the Real World get on top of me and that, coupled with the constant moronic postings on this forum by both noobs and people who should know better, got too much for me. Juggles is probably extremely conversant with what I was going through from a professional point-of-view.
I am not sorry for what I said, but I apologise to the people who originally made this a decent place to be if I upset any of them. I believe that XDA needs to take a serious look at itself before it the community (almost family) feel that it used to have is destroyed forever by the people coming in nowadays, demanding answers all the time, refusing to ever search, not bothering to thank (either by the button or verbally) when they are given answers, posting the same question over and over again because they are not bothered to read the answers they've been given, and generally breaking most of the rules of XDA on a daily basis.
This site is rapidly becoming far too big for the small number of moderators that are assigned to each forum (they do a great job, but can't handle what is going on most of the time) and if XDA is ever to get its quality feeling back they need to start enforcing the rules far more rigidly - especially the people who sign up and then just keep posting things like "Me too" or "What's the best ROM" so they can reach their 10 posts and start polluting the Dev forums. I joined less than a year ago, but I spent over 6 months reading and learning before joining just so that I had an idea what I was doing; my DS had been S-Offed and rooted for almost three months before I even made my first post.
I'm not perfect - hell, I'm the first to admit that, and I (like everybody else on the planet) rub people up the wrong way from time to time. I enjoyed most of my time here - certainly until rumours of ICS hit our device - but since that happened it has not been the same here.
Maybe I should have stayed away from here after what's gone on in Real Life recently, but this place used to be my escape from reality - I guess I just hadn't realised how much that had changed.
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bro, I feel ya, those retarded new comer, doesnt even search for something, try before asking. im not like a newborn people, who dont know any sh*t about any thing. I've been around on 2 forums since 2007-2008 until now , TheHotFix.Net and TBD, our local hacking and programming forum. im one of the influencing member and mod, contributor/donator, and of course a programmer. Heavy burden. I've been around since mid 2011, looking out some info and stuffs for my asus tf101, I dont even register. But after I got this DS.. the only reason I register on XDA on the first place is because of attachment links, yeah. you need to register to download it. Well after that, after looking out some of the threads and posts, I do mind giving help to other users, that's why Im stuck in XDA right now.
Well, this is just a turning point. sometimes, people dont like other people style, sometimes this new comer dont give a f**k about anything. they just want answers. Back at the other forums, we just ban them for like a day, yes they keep showing up thou, but that's how we motivate and teach them.
I'm glad that at least, those long post is really reasonable, and something that I agreed. You see Simon, you feels like this is a burden for you, you have the guts to show your leadership, I like your style :good: . But, you need to control it a bit, dont messed up to serious on this, and giving yourself a bad name.
and dear XDA mods/admins , well I'm sorry on behalf of XDA DS family for this way-off off-topic, far too d*mn away.