Question about Google Apps. - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

Im looking to flash Justinbeans inverted Gapps to my galaxy s3 running paranoid android.
This is my first CM10 based rom and first time flashing google apps. Sorry if this is redundant, but im trying to be thorough.
My question is, do google apps backup data periodically?
For example, if I complete a nandroid, wipe and reinstall the ROM and flash these Gapps, will I open SMS and see my messages? phone to see recent calls?
Because they were google apps I assumed this would be true, but I couldnt find a 100% answer.
Any help? Thanks in advance. Really looking foward to doing this tonight.

All ur texts and call logs will still be there. Google apps. Also known as gapps are the play store gmail and a few others. And even if it did replace the messaging app I don't believe it would erase the data(the messages). I don't think I'm wrong but if I am someone feel free to correct me.
Edit. Sorry if u flash a Rom ur messages will be erased along with ur call log. But if u only flash gapps over ur current Rom setup u will still have ur phone and message data.
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Titanium will save your messages/call logs, and other random data. Google will not accurately save your data developed in an app, use titanium.
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[Q] setup after flash

Sorry if this has been asked a lot, but i cant find it anywhere.
I am trying to figure out if there is an easy way to update the phone (settings, app arrangement etc..) after flashing a new rom. I flashed cognitions rom the other day, and had to manually arrange everything and i lost all my text messages and settings.
before flashing i did a nandroid backup of my old rom, and i made a backup of my apps using Titanium Backup, so that was easy to get my apps back on my phone, but i had to re arrange everything, and setup my phone basically like it was new.
So is there anything that i could use to basically import all my settings from my old rom, or everytime you flash you have to redo everything?
anyone... maybe even just a link to somewhere i can find some info?!
Sorry man, no help from me but a bump.
From a phone on an app
I know it is safe to backup just your application and app data. The restore put all the apps back where they were before.
But I have read too much bad mojo from users trying to restore everything. Too many things going bad after doing as full restore.
Personally I would stick with just the apps and app data, it isn't tojo much if a hassle to get set back after they are back in after a flash.
But other people might say other wise.....
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It wasn't too bad... just wanted to see if there was an easier way to do it. Thanks for your help!
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[Q] Let Google restore apps and settings?

Should I let Google restore my apps and settings from my Google account after signing in for the first time? Or is it cleaner to just reinstall manually?
Depends on what ur doing.. I always let it keep it backed up.. but I always backup and restore with titanium backup before/after a rom change.. I never restore from my Google account, except on a brand new "stock" phone..
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been wondering about this as well, seems like it can overwrite what some roms do like custom market, dark google search, etc. it keeps reverting me to a wallpaper background from the first time i installed CM7.

Noob Question: Backup options prior to root and custom ROM

Planning on rooting my Inspire 4g and adding a custom rom. Most of the rom install instructions ask for factory reset and wipe. I'm guessing this means, I will probably loose apps, contacts and app data. Is there a way to save the app states with data and recover these?
I think Google play and Google should help me out app reinstall and contacts. But not sure if I can recover these just in 1 go without having to push an app at a time from Google play. Not sure if there is a way to backup and restore app data
theseventhdawn said:
Planning on rooting my Inspire 4g and adding a custom rom. Most of the rom install instructions ask for factory reset and wipe. I'm guessing this means, I will probably loose apps, contacts and app data. Is there a way to save the app states with data and recover these?
I think Google play and Google should help me out app reinstall and contacts. But not sure if I can recover these just in 1 go without having to push an app at a time from Google play. Not sure if there is a way to backup and restore app data
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After you root your phone use a backup program like titanium backup to save your play store apps with data. Only save stuff downloaded from store though as backing up system stuff and restoring on other roms will cause issues.
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Gizmoe said:
After you root your phone use a backup program like titanium backup to save your play store apps with data. Only save stuff downloaded from store though as backing up system stuff and restoring on other roms will cause issues.
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Thanks will give that a try
theseventhdawn said:
Thanks will give that a try
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Make sure you read the OP (original post) on any custom ROM you're looking into. Sometimes using a program like Titanium backup can cause a ROM to act buggy. And sometimes everything works perfectly with your restored data... just wanted to give you a heads up.
EDIT: I just re-read Gizmoe's post above... Sorry for being redundant.

[Q] What should i use for backup and restore instead of TiBu?

i was just reading the CM10.1 nightlies thread, and most posters there have been saying that using TiBu to backup and restore apps is a *bad* thing when doing a fresh install of the latest nightly ROM build.
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
i'd like to keep my call logs and SMS data. i also have some savegames from game apps i'd like to keep. TiBu seems to have some specific options as to backing up SMSes and call logs. is that safe to backup and then restore to a new ROM install?
what about user apps? i'm fine with just reinstalling most apps, but there are some apps that have saved data that i'd really like to keep!
there are apps specifically for backing up sms and call longs
the reason that people dont like Tibu as much is some of the cache it restores can conflict with newer builds and android is pretty good at restoring most of the things on its own
People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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fightinfilipino said:
i was just reading the CM10.1 nightlies thread, and most posters there have been saying that using TiBu to backup and restore apps is a *bad* thing when doing a fresh install of the latest nightly ROM build.
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
i'd like to keep my call logs and SMS data. i also have some savegames from game apps i'd like to keep. TiBu seems to have some specific options as to backing up SMSes and call logs. is that safe to backup and then restore to a new ROM install?
what about user apps? i'm fine with just reinstalling most apps, but there are some apps that have saved data that i'd really like to keep!
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Helium from the maker of CWM is free and super simple. They could've included an option to only backup an apps data but oh well it's still great. :good:
Commodore 64 said:
People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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ty, that makes sense.
i'm on an older version of CWM (6.0.1.0, i believe). am i able to just flash a new version of CWM (sk8's or whatever) from my current CWM? i can't seem to find a straight answer on the forums or from googling...
Yea you can. Just flash the sk8 and then under advanced choose reboot recovery after install and you're going to be in the new recovery mod
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Thanks for asking!
fightinfilipino said:
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
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Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?
Trinition said:
Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?
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I never restore anything. I backup my call logs and texts to gmail, but I don't restore them. Why would you?
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Trinition said:
Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?
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Maybe that you can backup to the cloud, with Helium and others. But except for that i think you've got it covered.
Commodore 64 said:
People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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just as a quick update, i did exactly this (using sk8's CWM recovery) and it seems to have worked like a charm. did a clean wipe (factory reset/format cache, data, system, dalvik's) and then installed Cyanogenmod 10.1 N15. then before rebooting i restored just the data. worked pretty well!
fightinfilipino said:
just as a quick update, i did exactly this (using sk8's CWM recovery) and it seems to have worked like a charm. did a clean wipe (factory reset/format cache, data, system, dalvik's) and then installed Cyanogenmod 10.1 N15. then before rebooting i restored just the data. worked pretty well!
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Good for you. But that is almost the same as a dirty flash.
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rushi.1986 said:
Good for you. But that is almost the same as a dirty flash.
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oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[
fightinfilipino said:
oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[
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You shouldn't restore anything.
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fightinfilipino said:
oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[
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There is no best way because there's always a risk it will cause issues. Either accept the level of risk involved or do what's recommended, you can't have your cake and eat it too in this case.
Personally I use android tuner pro as a backup solution. I know the risks involved and I don't post and complain when it doesn't work I find the problem and fix it or I do what I'm supposed to do.
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mtdew said:
There is no best way because there's always a risk it will cause issues. Either accept the level of risk involved or do what's recommended, you can't have your cake and eat it too in this case.
Personally I use android tuner pro as a backup solution. I know the risks involved and I don't post and complain when it doesn't work I find the problem and fix it or I do what I'm supposed to do.
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the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?
fightinfilipino said:
the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?
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His answer was far from snarky and was actually correct the method stated is just a dirty flash with more steps and is more risky.
It's recommended not to restore anything but if you must be ready to accepted the consequence if there are any. Typically with android tuner I don't have issues.
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fightinfilipino said:
the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?
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I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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rushi.1986 said:
I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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99% of the time you won't but with all of the changes recently all precautions needed to be taken. Like I said I normally don't have too many issues, every once in a while though.
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Restoring user apps will not mess up your ROM. Unless it is root related y would it? If the app doesn't work after install then install it from the market.
Restoring system apps can effect your ROM. Most system apps are different based on the ROM that you use. Example being restoring them from cm 10 to cm 10.1, or even different nightlies.
Titanium backup is the way to go. Chronium aka helium is supposed to be good, its a preference thing IMO.
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rushi.1986 said:
I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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This is a good way to go.. If it works for you, then you have your solution. Thing is, everyone's phone has had different experiences with different apps, ROMs, settings, etc. and what works for one may not work for another.
Personally, I prefer the backup feature in ROM Toolbox pro. Easy to use, bulk features, and I had fewer issues than on TiBu. BUT, with all the recent app updates trying to keep up with Rom changes, I've found it to be far more stable to just reinstall from the Play store. It seems to also be prudent to get rid of any app that may be redundant to native ROM features (in my case). Just keep it simple.
Contacts and calendar data syncs with Google.
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No texting app. Need help.

Hello all. I have a droid razr maxx that is rooted and when i was messing around with stuff i seem to have messed up something with my texting app and it was gone. I found the app .apk in my system/app folder but when attempting to install it i got a "app not installed". Frustrated with it i decided to just factory restore and just start everything fresh. Did a factory restore and my texting app is still not there and i still cant install it. I need help.
SmileAsTheyDie said:
Hello all. I have a droid razr maxx that is rooted and when i was messing around with stuff i seem to have messed up something with my texting app and it was gone. I found the app .apk in my system/app folder but when attempting to install it i got a "app not installed". Frustrated with it i decided to just factory restore and just start everything fresh. Did a factory restore and my texting app is still not there and i still cant install it. I need help.
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Your texting app as in Message or Whatsapp ETC? Please provide us with more information.
SmileAsTheyDie said:
Hello all. I have a droid razr maxx that is rooted and when i was messing around with stuff i seem to have messed up something with my texting app and it was gone. I found the app .apk in my system/app folder but when attempting to install it i got a "app not installed". Frustrated with it i decided to just factory restore and just start everything fresh. Did a factory restore and my texting app is still not there and i still cant install it. I need help.
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Reflash your ROM. (Install a third party SMS app first though, only reflash ROM if u want stock messaging app)
Smack that Thanks button if I helped!
KitKat came in on my OmniROM, running on my Note 2.
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Irwenzhao said:
Reflash your ROM. (Install a third party SMS app first though, only reflash ROM if u want stock messaging app)
Smack that Thanks button if I helped!
KitKat came in on my OmniROM, running on my Note 2.
Sent from a small country called Singapore.
P.S. Time for school, not much time for XDA
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Could you post a guide on how to go upon reflashing it (I had to do it once before but it was quite some time before). I installed a 3rd party SMS but no texts come through or go out. It's not necessarily that I want the stock one rather I need it , unless there is something I'm missing about getting the 3rd party SMS to work.
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Your texting app as in Message or Whatsapp ETC? Please provide us with more information.
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Just the stock text messaging app.
SmileAsTheyDie said:
Could you post a guide on how to go upon reflashing it (I had to do it once before but it was quite some time before). I installed a 3rd party SMS but no texts come through or go out. It's not necessarily that I want the stock one rather I need it , unless there is something I'm missing about getting the 3rd party SMS to work.
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Do you have a Custom recovery installed? E.G CWM or TWRP
If you have : Download the rom you want and put it in the external SD or internal drive depends on your phone. (For example Samsung phones can flash with the ext + Int Drive)
Do a Full wipe : Clear cache,Clear Dalvik and Battery status in Advanced and Format System + Data. (No need to factory reset just wasting time, also don't forget to double check it since it's easy the click Format Ext SD card)
After this Flash using Flash from ZIP and then choose your Rom after this Download 0-day Gapps which can be found here (First Check if the Rom has Gapps packed with it) and flash it using the same way as flashing the ROM.
Reboot and your done

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