Split Android development into ROM and Kernel sections? - General Topics

Sorry if this has been suggested, could not find anything in search.
I was browsing nexus s dev forums, and it is such a pain to find anything because all the roms and kernels are mixed.
Would it not be an idea to split these two two keep it a bit more organised?
Cheers

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276306

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If I've missed any please let me know. These are NOT the only ROM's nor are they the "best" ROM's for the Kaiser just a list of the ROM's that seam to be the most popular.
Why did you post this?
Does it's based on number of post or viewers who's came to related ROM threads? Why don't we just do polling or something? But i guess member here rarely used only one ROM, it's keep changing
is this really necessary?
Travito said:
is this really necessary?
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i feel it is just like adding a new thread with no benefits n discussions...
I think it is an against rule.. so MOD to take the call on this!
siddesh_0110 said:
i feel it is just like adding a new thread with no benefits n discussions...
I think it is an against rule.. so MOD to take the call on this!
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Why did you post this?
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is this really necessary?
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What is the big deal? ......What , is he taking much needed space away from all the new 6.5 roms coming out ? Look around, things are kind of slow around here with links being taken down, chefs canceling their new 6.5 releases
This is not a "what is best thread," it merely consolidates all the chefs in one area,.........If it is tagged right, now all a noob has to do is come to rom development, type " popular roms " into search and he will come right to this page, to link and compare. No harm, could be helpful.
Don't forget ansar's roms, get the link in my signature.
Make this sticky!
Maybe add older but good ROMS like dutty's, Laurentis, etc!
I didn't expect to be flamed for making a post that would help me. If it helps me then I'm sure it would help others here on the forums.
I'm not claiming these are the best ROM's, What I did was sort the forum by number of posts and then started listing, I skipped over the threads that was old but apparently some of those ROM's are still used so I'll include those too.
Fingerlickin said:
I didn't expect to be flamed for making a post that would help me. If it helps me then I'm sure it would help others here on the forums.
I'm not claiming these are the best ROM's, What I did was sort the forum by number of posts and then started listing, I skipped over the threads that was old but apparently some of those ROM's are still used so I'll include those too.
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your not really being flamed its just that this is rom development forum and your thread has nothing to do with that,or with even aiding in rom dev. maybe you should put this in the kaiser-general forum?
The only problem is I don't think noobs are going to use the search function in the general forum to find a popular rom list. They are going to come here, to rom dev. Yes they could just go up and down the forum threads looking at post totals for different roms, but we all know clueles noobs.
I would love for them to be able to input "popular roms " into the search function and have them be directed to a list. Or as we get the inevitalbe " what is the best rom " question, which gets asked here, more than in the Kaiser general forum " here is the list of popular roms ", " follow the links and test and compare for yourself "
Could be helpful.
Once upon a time, XDA made this thing, it was grand, it's called THE WIKI.
Where there is already an extensive ROM list.
Instead of making a new thread, update the WIKI.
Travito said:
Once upon a time, XDA made this thing, it was grand, it's called THE WIKI.
Where there is already an extensive ROM list.
Instead of making a new thread, update the WIKI.
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agreed it is far more extensive
Travito said:
Once upon a time, XDA made this thing, it was grand, it's called THE WIKI.
Where there is already an extensive ROM list.
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And that is why the thread is not called " every rom ever written for the Kaiser " because that is in the wiki. Lets face it when the noobs come to this Kaiser forum, they are looking for the latest and the greatest, the stuff all the other kids are using.
They are not looking or willing to to filter through yesterdays news just to get the newest stuff. Don't get me wrong, Leo, Dutty, NATF, and all are legends and always will be, but they have moved on. In some cases the chefs are not even supporting their old threads that are still listed in the wiki.
We hear enough complaints as it is about all the old info a noob has to go through to get the " new stuff ".
This is kind of a thanks and props to the guys that have stayed behind and still support us, and a thanks to the ( Josh, KaiserII101, ngy ) new chefs stepping up, by moving them to the top of the " every rom available for the Kaiser" list .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=492757
Go here follow the links to the latest and the greatest and decide for yourself. Easy Answer ?
Not meaning to be a jerk with so many posts, I'm just sayin............
I've got to admit that this thread helped me find a good naked ROM, namely AthineOS. I probably would have found it in the end but who knows how long that would have taken?
denco7 said:
Lets face it when the noobs come to this Kaiser forum, they are looking for the latest and the greatest, the stuff all the other kids are using.
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and that stuff 9 times out of 10 is on the 1st or 2nd page of the kaiser forum, hence threads like these AREN'T needed.
edit: not to mention that this is the "Kaiser Rom Development forum" not a come and get it/heres your menu forum, these "kids" need to be searching/learning before they EVER think about flashing a rom. or all you get is theses spoon fed "kids" not reading/searching, bricking their phones more than they do now!!!
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I've been lurking XDA for quite some time, have read countless threads, and flashed numerous ROMs. I'm no chef/expert, but I'm not a n00b either. My visits to XDA are far from regular and usually involve either obtaining a new ROM or checking on the status of Android on the Kaiser. I greatly appreciate the work of everyone who cooks ROMs, administrates the forum/wiki, or just generally puts in time to help the community, and try to stay out of the way unless I have a good question or something useful to add. I use the search function and the wiki religiously. In short, I'm probably a good example of the typical XDA visitor. Here's my opinion:
@Fingerlickin: Thank you. The effort is appreciated, but I don't imagine you'll want to come back and update this every few months. If you make a new wiki page or add the popularity info to the existing ROM list, other people can update it in future. Then, you could just edit your post and make it a link to the wiki (or have the mods add the link to the FAQ) so that it comes up in forum searches.
@Travito & msd24200: You say that a more extensive list can be found elsewhere and that a post like this doesn't belong in the ROM development forum. With all due respect, I think you are missing the point. Fingerlickin didn't post a list of all ROMS, he posted something of a Top 8 list. It wasn't intended to be comprehensive.
Could he have updated the wiki instead of making a new post? Sure, but (at the time of this post) that page was last updated in January.
Could any given XDA visitor get this information on their own? Yes, but it can be confusing, frustrating, and time consuming. ROM authors and update threads change, and some of the most popular ROMs are no longer maintained.
Should this be somewhere else? I don't believe so. If I'm interested in getting a ROM, I go to where the ROM developers post them. They don't post in Kaiser General, so I don't go there for ROMs. Naturally, I wouldn't expect to find a list of popular ROMs there, either.
Frankly, I think the FAQ actually has too much info, especially since there's a wiki with all of that (and more). As for the wiki, it's not the easiest thing to navigate. For example, a search for "Kaiser" brings up a list of pages, but should I click the HTC_Kaiser link, or the Kaiser link? If I'm looking for info on Kaiser ROMs, do I choose KaiserROMs or Kaiser_ROMs? KaiserROMs directs me to see either Kaiser Cooked Roms or Kaiser Shipped Roms, the latter being a link to the Kaiser_ROMs page.
My point is simply this: Fingerlickin's post lists several of the most popular, and still updated, ROMs. This info is not available on the wiki or in the FAQ, and pertains directly to the ROMs developed and posted on this forum. It might be easier to maintain if it were on the wiki, but it might end up harder to find. It's definitely not redundant or in the wrong forum, and it IS a time saver.
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Exactly all the most up to date things will be within first 2 pages and even if not then surely it's worth putting in the effort to find a ROM that you want and like, by that i mean to do a bit of research read some of the reviews flash it and then probably go somewhere else and flash untill you find the ROM that suits your needs and wishes, blah blah too many threadz with Help\Fastest ROM\Best ROM or just posted in the bloody wrong section.
Blah Blah Blah..............
msd24200 where's that cat when you need him?
DamionFury: I read it all and you have some valib point but time consuming is all part of it your flashing a UK £200ish phone............. Take some time, do some learning..... You don't need to use the search for Kaiser ROMs go through the pages of ROM Development and you can just flip & flip & flip till you find what you want???
I enjoy using my phone when it has a ROM that I like; I don't enjoy spending hours finding that ROM. I have far too many things I'd rather be doing. I spend the time finding the ROM because I believe that it's worth it, but anything that reduces the expenditure is great in my book.
DamionFury said:
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I've been lurking XDA for quite some time, have read countless threads, and flashed numerous ROMs. I'm no chef/expert, but I'm not a n00b either. My visits to XDA are far from regular and usually involve either obtaining a new ROM or checking on the status of Android on the Kaiser. I greatly appreciate the work of everyone who cooks ROMs, administrates the forum/wiki, or just generally puts in time to help the community, and try to stay out of the way unless I have a good question or something useful to add. I use the search function and the wiki religiously. In short, I'm probably a good example of the typical XDA visitor. Here's my opinion:
@Fingerlickin: Thank you. The effort is appreciated, but I don't imagine you'll want to come back and update this every few months. If you make a new wiki page or add the popularity info to the existing ROM list, other people can update it in future. Then, you could just edit your post and make it a link to the wiki (or have the mods add the link to the FAQ) so that it comes up in forum searches.
@Travito & msd24200: You say that a more extensive list can be found elsewhere and that a post like this doesn't belong in the ROM development forum. With all due respect, I think you are missing the point. Fingerlickin didn't post a list of all ROMS, he posted something of a Top 8 list. It wasn't intended to be comprehensive.
Could he have updated the wiki instead of making a new post? Sure, but (at the time of this post) that page was last updated in January.
Could any given XDA visitor get this information on their own? Yes, but it can be confusing, frustrating, and time consuming. ROM authors and update threads change, and some of the most popular ROMs are no longer maintained.
Should this be somewhere else? I don't believe so. If I'm interested in getting a ROM, I go to where the ROM developers post them. They don't post in Kaiser General, so I don't go there for ROMs. Naturally, I wouldn't expect to find a list of popular ROMs there, either.
Frankly, I think the FAQ actually has too much info, especially since there's a wiki with all of that (and more). As for the wiki, it's not the easiest thing to navigate. For example, a search for "Kaiser" brings up a list of pages, but should I click the HTC_Kaiser link, or the Kaiser link? If I'm looking for info on Kaiser ROMs, do I choose KaiserROMs or Kaiser_ROMs? KaiserROMs directs me to see either Kaiser Cooked Roms or Kaiser Shipped Roms, the latter being a link to the Kaiser_ROMs page.
My point is simply this: Fingerlickin's post lists several of the most popular, and still updated, ROMs. This info is not available on the wiki or in the FAQ, and pertains directly to the ROMs developed and posted on this forum. It might be easier to maintain if it were on the wiki, but it might end up harder to find. It's definitely not redundant or in the wrong forum, and it IS a time saver.
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and again there is no point to be missing the fact is this is a rom development thread not a come and get it and here's the menu thread. THIS HAS BEEN GONE OVER AND OVER AND OVER so many times. the roms that are "hot" will always be on the first couple of pages of the forum because so many use them they don't have time to drop back to page 3. you guys that want to spoon feed should start your own website linking back to the rom threads on here then. and as far as the wiki goes it's all there and ANYONE can update the wiki at anytime.

We need a rom sub forum

We need a Rom sub forum under samsung captivate so all the roms are in one places and not all mixed up under development.
jc2470 said:
We need a Rom sub forum under samsung captivate so all the roms are in one places and not all mixed up under development.
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Wouldn't they still need to be in the development forum..since most are a works in progress ? I could see having a sticky with links and screen shots of them but they would have to be locked down otherwise they would get cluttered up with all of the questions being asked about them..
Mac
yes locked down or something cause they are freaking cluttered now.
I'll bump it now. Guy tried to put together a sticky like this, but never got stickied.
Well can't find it now.
Nvm got it
From a phone on an app
jc2470 said:
yes locked down or something cause they are freaking cluttered now.
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I had a professor once that told me "clutter is a sign of brilliance". So finding anything in the dev forum would make you a Mensa candidate.
Swyping...please read slowly!
jc2470 said:
yes locked down or something cause they are freaking cluttered now.
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But where would the feedback go though... and all those "how do i turn on my phone so i can install this rom" questions?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835928
im trying to gather resources to make a website devoted to presenting ROM's in a easy to use way. check it out. thanks
so ive been pondering on this all day and this is my conclusion:
how about the development section actually being a developement section, and all "what modem should i use?" or "will this work the the i900 kernal?" or the "when is the updated version coming out?" could go in the q&a section where they belong, what we need are more mods that are a little more active in moving threads and deleting unnecessary posts out of the development section, can you imaging how much more smooth our devs could work if they didnt have to sort through 20 posts to find one that might help them with the actually development.
oh and one more thing, that captivate bible thing, that was an excellent idea, would have done a lot of great things and helped many people, but no one goes through and updates it, what a waste :/
I found this a while back. I found out quite a-bit about our phones from it...Seems to me since this is already up and running..maybe the owner wouldn't mind adding a section for custom Roms and maybe the themes as well ? Wouldn't hurt to ask them anyway..I did just a few minutes ago
Mac
The easiest way is to look for the threads Labled {Rom}? This has been brought up over and over again. It tried a few times but never went anywhere as most at to busy to keep the roms on more then one website. As for the questions being asked they belong in the thread for the rom they use and not in Q&A.
I think he was talking about all the other questions in the development section. What Im talking about is something like just roms in a section, if u want to ask questions or talk about rom fine but be only under that rom thread, U would have a Section Clean of all kinds of post and other development stuff, Have a certain format for titles in the rom section, where it would be uniform. I know there still under development but it would be clean, and easy to find.
I like this idea. It should be formatted sort of like DG's thread. All questions goes on that thread for development and on the first page the links would point to the ROM section where people can download the roms they need look at screen shots.

Separate forum category for ROMs

Currently we have dozens of ROMs and new ones are coming every day. I believe it would be easier for a single forum for the posting of ROMs and then the android development forum for developing them. This would make it easier for find ROMs etc.
I you agree please vote.
not needed imho
I'll second the "not needed" as well.
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The Android Development forum is not really that hard to navigate.
This has been brought up over and over again. Trust me you would find it a whole lot harder to go to one thread to get the rom and after you find an issue with it have to go to another thread to post about said issue just to find it is already known. When you can get the rom and read up on any issues in the same thread.
I am gonna close this up now.

Questioning the utility to reorganize the threads on the forum???

Hello everyone.
That's my issue may not be the right place, but this is where I find the most relevant, since for this section.
I think for some time the number of threads are increasing enormously for new ROM, which is fine because it shows that the community is very active) but many of the Roma are found to be the same base or from ports of other devices, and there are so many with names that look alike or have nothing to do with the content (I will not name to avoid any controversy and stay in a general term) that we end by not knowing what exactly that is.
So I think it should be revamped a little with all that can be sub-sections by Dev ports or Roma, ways to try to eclaicir section and avoid ending up finally with questions about a thread that has nothing to do with this thread Rom.
That's what I feel for a very short time and I think it would be good for both dev and users of éclaicir things.
When do you think??
Arma, a user begins to consider warning from the time I practice android flash device.
This makes little to no sense, so can't really reply. Think youre essentially saying that maybe devs combine their different ROM releases into single threads?
rorydaredkign said:
This makes little to no sense, so can't really reply. Think youre essentially saying that maybe devs combine their different ROM releases into single threads?
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Or subforums? So the DHD Dev subforum has a couple more subforums within it (one for ported ROMs, one for ROMS built on a native base)? That's how I read it anyway.
Sorry for my bad english (google translation), but yes I think it would be although it is organized by several sub-forums, for example, the ports of other phones, stock rom, rom MluI, or do that every dev its own sub-forums, and finally they are ideas, see what might appeal without being overly burdensome for devs who already have enough to do.
If someone else with ideas on how to build the threads?
The discussion is now open.
I think people would over see things and it would be a mess then a dev gets a new device and his sub forum is left behind and annoy like sticky threads
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sub forms like : Sense Development, MIUI Development and Ported roms development would be super cool and better than just one single development section.
It takes me a roughly 15-20 mins just to find a thread here lol
fearkillerr said:
sub forms like : Sense Development, MIUI Development and Ported roms development would be super cool and better than just one single development section.
It takes me a roughly 15-20 mins just to find a thread here lol
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I totally agree to that!!
Agreed. Either that, or we need someone to keep an updated sticky again. But a "Utilities" section, for radios, RILs, and recoveries would be a good idea also.
fearkillerr said:
sub forms like : Sense Development, MIUI Development and Ported roms development would be super cool and better than just one single development section.
It takes me a roughly 15-20 mins just to find a thread here lol
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And not to forget kernel, RIL and RADIO

Best way to find best ROMs

I've spent much wasted time trying to find what i think the best ICS rom for my galaxy s2.
Is there somewhere i can find summary or section with others experiences as much my own?
i am sure many are doing as i.
thanks.
Shouldn't you search here or here?
Just look around here on XDA, there's a lot of very good ROM's here for SGS2
Yup in the roms threads. A search would have saved you the trouble of making a new thread.
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